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formigueta
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:52 pm

Both Wamos A320 have been delivered together with an additional A330 EC-MAJ, but these have been directly stored due to lack of demand (A320 were to be wet leased to TUI for the summer season but due to Covid-19 the contract was suspended).

Almost all Wamos fleet is on a power by the hour scheme with the lessors therefore they only pay rent when they fly
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:51 pm

Iberia to drop a number of intra-european routes this winter. Amongst them, some core routes such as Madrid-Oslo, Madrid-Casablanca and Madrid-Prague (!). Looks like Iberia is foreseeing a VERY bad winter ahead.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-04oct20/
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:22 pm

EC-NHO was delivered (direct to storage) today, with no titles and still with old registration (TC-JUG).
 
SCQ83
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:10 pm

aviator2000 wrote:
Iberia to drop a number of intra-european routes this winter. Amongst them, some core routes such as Madrid-Oslo, Madrid-Casablanca and Madrid-Prague (!). Looks like Iberia is foreseeing a VERY bad winter ahead.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-04oct20/


Iberia codeshares with Royal Air Maroc in CMN and with Czech in PRG, so they can still fly it to say so. I reckon Ryanair keeping MAD-PRG in winter (and this route is also relatively recent) doesn't help either to keep IB on the route for the winter.

As for OSL this is a recent addition (tbh I thought it was seasonal only); hard from "core".
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:20 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
aviator2000 wrote:
Iberia to drop a number of intra-european routes this winter. Amongst them, some core routes such as Madrid-Oslo, Madrid-Casablanca and Madrid-Prague (!). Looks like Iberia is foreseeing a VERY bad winter ahead.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-04oct20/


Iberia codeshares with Royal Air Maroc in CMN and with Czech in PRG, so they can still fly it to say so. I reckon Ryanair keeping MAD-PRG in winter (and this route is also relatively recent) doesn't help either to keep IB on the route for the winter.

As for OSL this is a recent addition (tbh I thought it was seasonal only); hard from "core".

My point is that Iberia isn't able to sustain flights on its own metal to these destinations. AFAIK, Prague-Madrid is only being operated by Ryanair currently, that's quite small for a route connecting two capital cities even if it is during the pandemic. In comparison, Prague-Barcelona has currently got both VY and FR operating the route.

In the case Oslo, all European hubs with similar amount of passengers as Madrid (pre pandemic) will all have flights to OSL this winter; Frankfurt, Amsterdam, Istanbul...
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:07 pm

Easyjet to open a new seasonal base in Malaga airport next spring (2021) with 3 based aircraft. This will become the airline's third base in Spain after Palma de Mallorca (seasonal) and Barcelona.

https://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articles ... and-malaga

Easyjet has also announced that it will be starting a new route between London Luton and Gran Canaria (LPA). The route will be flown twice weekly starting on the 13th of February. The network of destinations that Easyjet will offer from LPA will look like the following: Bristol, Basel, Berlin, Manchester, Geneva, London LGW and London LTN.

https://twitter.com/AeropuertoGC/status ... 4372596736

In other news, Volotea will be operating a new special Christmas seasonal route between Verona and Barcelona (21 dec - 9 jan) with 2 weekly flights. This will be the airline's 3rd destination from Barcelona, compared to 0 destinations which it offered from the airport last year.

https://twitter.com/Aeropuerto_BCN/stat ... 6471576581
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:08 pm

Ryanair has made some last-minute cuts for winter and has been a "chopping galore". The number of routes flown routes this winter from each airport will be:

41: Alicante
40: Málaga

36: Barcelona

27: Madrid
24: Tenerife Sur
21: Sevilla

17: Palma de Mallorca
15: Fuerteventura, Lanzarote
13: Gran Canaria, Valencia
12: Santiago

5: Ibiza, Santander
3: Tenerife Norte
2: Murcia
1: Jerez, Menorca, Valladolid, Vitoria, Zaragoza
0: Almería, Bilbao, Castellón, Girona, Reus

It seems VLC is the biggest loser with +25 routes chopped; about 2/3s. Next Sevilla with half of routes falling. Girona which a few years ago was Ryanair's biggest base in Spain will have exactly 0 flights. ALC, AGP, Canarias and Santiago lose the fewer routes.
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:15 pm

A few new routes where announced today from Gran Canaria due to launch in the upcoming weeks/months. Whilts the majority of mainland Spain and other European countries are suffering from the second coronavirus wave, it seems like the Canary Islands are "unaware" of the situation. New routes are:

Vueling: Gran Canaria to Santiago de Compostela, operated twice weekly starting from the 19th of December.

Condor: Gran Canaria to Zurich, operated twice weekly starting from the 1st of May.

Easyjet: Gran Canaria to Amsterdam, operated weekly starting in December. (third new route the airline adds this winter from LPA, after Glasgow and Luton).

On top of that, due to the low covid levels in the Islands, many UK holiday carriers have announced their return this winter (TUI, JET2...)
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:38 pm

aviator2000 wrote:
A few new routes where announced today from Gran Canaria due to launch in the upcoming weeks/months. Whilts the majority of mainland Spain and other European countries are suffering from the second coronavirus wave, it seems like the Canary Islands are "unaware" of the situation. New routes are:

Vueling: Gran Canaria to Santiago de Compostela, operated twice weekly starting from the 19th of December.


It is not only SCQ, there are 10 new domestic routes

https://www.preferente.com/noticias-de- ... 04615.html

ALC-ACE
ALC-FUE
BIO-TFN
PMI-LPA
PMI-TFN
OVD-ACE
OVD-LPA
OVD-TFN
SCQ-LPA
SCQ-TFN


En concreto, operará las rutas directas de Alicante-Lanzarote y Alicante-Fuerteventura con 6 vuelos cada una; ofrecerá 7 vuelos en las rutas de Asturias-Tenerife, Asturias-Lanzarote, Asturias-Gran Canaria, Mallorca-Gran Canaria, Mallorca-Tenerife, Bilbao-Tenerife, Santiago-Gran Canaria y Santiago-Tenerife; y 2 vuelos Mánchester-Lanzarote, Mánchester-Gran Canaria, Newcastle-Lanzarote, Newcastle-Gran Canaria. En total, suponen cerca de 53.000 plazas adicionales y alrededor de un 32% más de capacidad respecto al programa regular de la aerolínea en el periodo navideño.
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:40 pm

Interestingly among the current crisis, SCQ will have 4 new routes this coming Christmas (unless everything gets chopped with lockdowns): LPA with I2 and VY, TFN with IB and ORY with TO. And a 5th one in 2021 with LIS on TAP.
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:43 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
aviator2000 wrote:
A few new routes where announced today from Gran Canaria due to launch in the upcoming weeks/months. Whilts the majority of mainland Spain and other European countries are suffering from the second coronavirus wave, it seems like the Canary Islands are "unaware" of the situation. New routes are:

Vueling: Gran Canaria to Santiago de Compostela, operated twice weekly starting from the 19th of December.


It is not only SCQ, there are 10 new domestic routes

https://www.preferente.com/noticias-de- ... 04615.html

ALC-ACE
ALC-FUE
BIO-TFN
PMI-LPA
PMI-TFN
OVD-ACE
OVD-LPA
OVD-TFN
SCQ-LPA
SCQ-TFN


En concreto, operará las rutas directas de Alicante-Lanzarote y Alicante-Fuerteventura con 6 vuelos cada una; ofrecerá 7 vuelos en las rutas de Asturias-Tenerife, Asturias-Lanzarote, Asturias-Gran Canaria, Mallorca-Gran Canaria, Mallorca-Tenerife, Bilbao-Tenerife, Santiago-Gran Canaria y Santiago-Tenerife; y 2 vuelos Mánchester-Lanzarote, Mánchester-Gran Canaria, Newcastle-Lanzarote, Newcastle-Gran Canaria. En total, suponen cerca de 53.000 plazas adicionales y alrededor de un 32% más de capacidad respecto al programa regular de la aerolínea en el periodo navideño.

Indeed, although these routes will only be operated during the christmas period and they where just announced yesterday.
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:01 pm

Yes, they are just for the holidays. They are not there to stay, as much I'd like that, that's not case.
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:34 am

Different sources reporting A320 c/n 4008 to be registered as EC-NMY... Any more infos regarding the future operator?
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:14 pm

formigueta wrote:
Both Wamos A320 have been delivered together with an additional A330 EC-MAJ, but these have been directly stored due to lack of demand (A320 were to be wet leased to TUI for the summer season but due to Covid-19 the contract was suspended).

Almost all Wamos fleet is on a power by the hour scheme with the lessors therefore they only pay rent when they fly


There are rumours that all 3 A320 were ntu and will join instead ITA Transportes Aéreos, can anybody confirm?
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:28 pm

Air Europa will be stopping its historic flights between Malaga & Valenca to Paris next January. At the time, Air France is expected to take over these flights.
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:31 pm

Sad but it makes sense. Some non-hub operations might make sense as regional aviation showed us during the 90s and LCCs during from the beginning of the century bu here UX (with the AF* codeshare) was just being used to feed CDG hub. UX had to position and/or base frames at VLC/AGP and given low CoviD volumes it lo longer makes sense due to the costs/complexity of W-patterns or small bases.
So it seems AF will have to use their own flights (they had 1xweekly in summer) if they want to keep these two stops on their network. The best part for AF is that the can choose from a wide variety of aircraft, from CRJs to large Airbuses, to meet demand better than the fixed UX 738.
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:52 pm

Aisak wrote:
Sad but it makes sense. Some non-hub operations might make sense as regional aviation showed us during the 90s and LCCs during from the beginning of the century bu here UX (with the AF* codeshare) was just being used to feed CDG hub. UX had to position and/or base frames at VLC/AGP and given low CoviD volumes it lo longer makes sense due to the costs/complexity of W-patterns or small bases.
So it seems AF will have to use their own flights (they had 1xweekly in summer) if they want to keep these two stops on their network. The best part for AF is that the can choose from a wide variety of aircraft, from CRJs to large Airbuses, to meet demand better than the fixed UX 738.

Exactly. I think it is a smart move as it seems like demand won't pick up in a while and AF has a more diverse narrow body fleet which can better adapt to the needs of each market.
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:55 pm

Royal Air Maroc will be launching 4 weekly flights between tangier and barcelona which will complement the already existing CMN-BCN. The airline had already been operating special flights on these routes during this past fall. Flights will be operated with B737s.

https://twitter.com/Aeropuerto_BCN/stat ... 1674668033
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:26 pm

UPDATE: RAM will also be connecting Malaga & Madrid to Tangier, starting on the 11th of December.

Link in English: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2020/1 ... na-malaga/
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:02 pm

Evelop and Orbest will be merged into one single brand IBEROJET

https://www.preferente.com/noticias-de- ... 05328.html
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:29 am

Introducing world2fly livery, in my own opinion just awful! :vomit:

https://www.hosteltur.com/141059_w2m-co ... -2021.html
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:28 pm

...seems now to be confirmed. The official website of world2fly is now online: https://w2fly.es/
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:21 pm

Iberia restarts Morocco (Spanish only)
https://grupo.iberia.es/news/03122020/r ... casablanca


Does anyone know when they will restart ORD?
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:10 pm

Tenerife closes borders for 15 days banning holidays to Canary Islands hotspot

SPAIN holidays to the Canary Islands have been dealt yet another blow today after it was announced the popular holiday island of Tenerife is closing its borders for 15 days from Friday. This is what you need to know.

www.express.co.uk/travel/articles/13734 ... latest/amp
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:06 pm

debonair wrote:
...seems now to be confirmed. The official website of world2fly is now online: https://w2fly.es/

The livery looks awful indeed. What are the chances this venture will actually work out?
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:10 pm

Seems like Qatar Airways is putting its faith on the vaccine... selling up to 3x day on the DOH-MAD/BCN routes next June and up to 5x week on its DOH-AGP (which is scheduled to operate with B777!).

https://twitter.com/novedadesaereas/sta ... 9263113222
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:21 pm

aviator2000 wrote:
The livery looks awful indeed. What are the chances this venture will actually work out?


I just checked the competition from MAD - it will be difficult to compete, especially against the new IAG (UX&IB) and Iberojet!

Punta Cana - Dominican Republic UX, E9, EB
Cancún - Mexico UX, E9, EB
La Habana - Cuba UX, E9, IB, CU
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:25 pm

Off topic but does anyone have any sites they can recommend to follow Spanish aviation more closely similar to A.net?
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:02 am

It seems the Iberia website no longer has flights for Logrono-Madrid - ie Air Nostrum may have dropped the route
AFAIK, Logrono has no other routes
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:01 pm

davidjohnson6 wrote:
It seems the Iberia website no longer has flights for Logrono-Madrid - ie Air Nostrum may have dropped the route
AFAIK, Logrono has no other routes

Yes, Air Nostrum is the only airline that operates flights to Logroño. However, I wouldn't be surprised if YW retook the route once the pandemic is over and things go back to normal.
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:46 pm

lesfalls wrote:
Off topic but does anyone have any sites they can recommend to follow Spanish aviation more closely similar to A.net?


Only in Spanish, via Twitter I follow @novedadesaereas
 
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Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:21 pm

Speaking of which, Iberia seems to be selling early morning departures from several of its European destinations, including Paris, Rome or Lisbon in April 2021. Signs of a slow but steady recovery as the airline gradually rebuilds its hub in Madrid after having been severely hit by the pandemic.

https://twitter.com/novedadesaereas/sta ... 9892701186
 
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