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DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:58 pm

No big announcement or news article, but on the website of DGS (www.dalgs.com), it redirects to Unifiservice.com, which apparently is the new name for DGS. I haven't seen anything about this yet, does any one have any details? How does it affect flight benefits of DGS employees?
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:00 pm

It probably has no effect on flight benefits for DGS employees, those were slashed when Delta sold/spun off DGS.

I’m guessing the new name is to get away from the old Delta connection.
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:06 pm

New corporate about us info:
Unifi was established in 1997, and has been independently operated ever since its inception. Managed at the corporate level by experienced airline professionals, the Unifi management team is “hands on” and proactive in process improvement and problem resolution.


They seem to be trying really hard to distance themselves from the DGS name (despite many of their page headers still having DGS instead of Unifi).
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:40 pm

As long as Delta doesn't sell their remaining 49% of the company the flight benefits should still remain. More would be understood once they officially announce the change. If they get rid of the benefits they will have the same issues struggling with high turnover just like every other ground handle.
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:19 pm

iadbudd wrote:
As long as Delta doesn't sell their remaining 49% of the company the flight benefits should still remain. More would be understood once they officially announce the change. If they get rid of the benefits they will have the same issues struggling with high turnover just like every other ground handle.


If you look at their job postings, it appears only some stations/positions receive flight benefits and they make it pretty clear which do and which don't.
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:15 am

Polot wrote:
It probably has no effect on flight benefits for DGS employees, those were slashed when Delta sold/spun off DGS.

I’m guessing the new name is to get away from the old Delta connection.

Delta is still an equity partner in the company
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:32 am

DGS, now Unifi employees hired before 12/21/19 still have flight privileges without having to pay a yield pay they are just taxed as income.

Delta has no reason to extend flight privileges to all Unifi employees. They are a monitory stakeholder. DGS/Unifi flight benefits will be on a contract basis. For example, Unifi employees working a DL contract would get flight privileges on DL only. Those working UA contract would get reduced rate travel ON UA only
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:59 pm

Maybe the reason for the name change is to attract future contracts such as UA without having Delta in the name of the company? Having a contractor at a station serving United would look better if the company is called Unifi instead of Delta global services.
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:49 pm

iadbudd wrote:
Maybe the reason for the name change is to attract future contracts such as UA without having Delta in the name of the company? Having a contractor at a station serving United would look better if the company is called Unifi instead of Delta global services.


true, but don't think UA will be moving to DGS/Unifi soon. They have created their own handling company that is moving into most small outstations. This way they can control the personnel with paying them lower wages than mainline employees.
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:57 pm

They just lost the Southwest contract at MEM.
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:14 pm

CALMSP wrote:
iadbudd wrote:
Maybe the reason for the name change is to attract future contracts such as UA without having Delta in the name of the company? Having a contractor at a station serving United would look better if the company is called Unifi instead of Delta global services.


true, but don't think UA will be moving to DGS/Unifi soon. They have created their own handling company that is moving into most small outstations. This way they can control the personnel with paying them lower wages than mainline employees.

United has their own in-house ramp service company, it’s unionized and called UGE

http://unitedgroundexpress.com/
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:51 pm

Well whatever the reason, switching names will certainly cost a lot with all new uniforms for the employees and painting over DGS equipment.
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:27 pm

WaywardMemphian wrote:
They just lost the Southwest contract at MEM.

WN is in-sourcing the work.
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:50 pm

Boof02671 wrote:
WaywardMemphian wrote:
They just lost the Southwest contract at MEM.

WN is in-sourcing the work.


Which is a loss of a contract
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:50 pm

WaywardMemphian wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:
WaywardMemphian wrote:
They just lost the Southwest contract at MEM.

WN is in-sourcing the work.


Which is a loss of a contract

I didn’t say otherwise. I gave an explanation why.
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:53 pm

Wonder what Ubiquiti thinks of this. They have a whole product line called UniFi...I'd be shocked if they didn't already TM that name.
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:10 pm

Boof02671 wrote:
United has their own in-house ramp service company, it’s unionized and called UGE

http://unitedgroundexpress.com/


Not a badge of honor for labor.

It's bad enough when companies whipsaw employees. When unions do it, it's inexcusable.
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:22 pm

iadbudd wrote:
As long as Delta doesn't sell their remaining 49% of the company the flight benefits should still remain. More would be understood once they officially announce the change. If they get rid of the benefits they will have the same issues struggling with high turnover just like every other ground handle.


They don’t get flight benefits anymore and they *do* suffer from high turnover. Always have. DGS stations are no better than any other 3rd party outsourced underwing service.
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:22 pm

N766UA wrote:
iadbudd wrote:
As long as Delta doesn't sell their remaining 49% of the company the flight benefits should still remain. More would be understood once they officially announce the change. If they get rid of the benefits they will have the same issues struggling with high turnover just like every other ground handle.


They don’t get flight benefits anymore and they *do* suffer from high turnover. Always have. DGS stations are no better than any other 3rd party outsourced underwing service.


If you look at the job postings, you would clearly see that isn't true. They do still get some flight benefits, it's not the same package that they got before but there is still some benefits which is better than what some other third parties offer.
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:16 pm

Boof02671 wrote:
CALMSP wrote:
iadbudd wrote:
Maybe the reason for the name change is to attract future contracts such as UA without having Delta in the name of the company? Having a contractor at a station serving United would look better if the company is called Unifi instead of Delta global services.


true, but don't think UA will be moving to DGS/Unifi soon. They have created their own handling company that is moving into most small outstations. This way they can control the personnel with paying them lower wages than mainline employees.

United has their own in-house ramp service company, it’s unionized and called UGE

http://unitedgroundexpress.com/

Care to explain the need to mention that UGE is unionized? Not sure that's really a big advantage to whoever is using that manpower; on the contrary.
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:18 pm

WayexTDI wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:
CALMSP wrote:

true, but don't think UA will be moving to DGS/Unifi soon. They have created their own handling company that is moving into most small outstations. This way they can control the personnel with paying them lower wages than mainline employees.

United has their own in-house ramp service company, it’s unionized and called UGE

http://unitedgroundexpress.com/

Care to explain the need to mention that UGE is unionized? Not sure that's really a big advantage to whoever is using that manpower; on the contrary.

That they work under a CBA just like McGee at AS. They aren’t employees at will like Unifi.
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:20 pm

Boof02671 wrote:
WayexTDI wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:
United has their own in-house ramp service company, it’s unionized and called UGE

http://unitedgroundexpress.com/

Care to explain the need to mention that UGE is unionized? Not sure that's really a big advantage to whoever is using that manpower; on the contrary.

That they work under a CBA just like McGee at AS. They aren’t employees at will like Unifi.

OK. And? Many employees in the US don't work under a CBA, are at will and are very happy of their work condition.
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:51 pm

N766UA wrote:
iadbudd wrote:
As long as Delta doesn't sell their remaining 49% of the company the flight benefits should still remain. More would be understood once they officially announce the change. If they get rid of the benefits they will have the same issues struggling with high turnover just like every other ground handle.


They don’t get flight benefits anymore and they *do* suffer from high turnover. Always have. DGS stations are no better than any other 3rd party outsourced underwing service.


They still get benefits after the sale. The standby priority was going to lower to the level of Buddy passes but after a lot of complaints about that priority downgrade, current employees where grandfathered into the priority they had. New hires after the sale got the lower priority. Although imputed taxes are charged now since DL doesn't own 100% of the company and the IRS has to get it.
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:48 am

CALMSP wrote:
true, but don't think UA will be moving to DGS/Unifi soon. They have created their own handling company that is moving into most small outstations. This way they can control the personnel with paying them lower wages than mainline employees.

At my local airport, the mainline United and United Express operation has been ground handled by DGS for years. It still is. It always seemed odd to me that United has its own ground handling company yet it outsources some of its locations to a competitor instead.
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:01 am

Delta was ab.e to even Have DGS because they do NOT have a Union to speak of. Had they ground Unions like United and American? That Idea would have been Smoked when they Tried it! And Delta got rid of them BECAUSE they might have had Union Rumblings in the ranks..
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:02 am

iadbudd wrote:
Maybe the reason for the name change is to attract future contracts such as UA without having Delta in the name of the company? Having a contractor at a station serving United would look better if the company is called Unifi instead of Delta global services.


Or most likely because Delta is no longer the main owner and they needed a different name to reflect this.

iadbudd wrote:
Well whatever the reason, switching names will certainly cost a lot with all new uniforms for the employees and painting over DGS equipment.


Why would the uniforms change? Customer facing staff usually wear the uniform of the airline anyway and the only uniform change for below wing would be removing any DGS branding.
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:16 am

strfyr51 wrote:
Delta was ab.e to even Have DGS because they do NOT have a Union to speak of. Had they ground Unions like United and American? That Idea would have been Smoked when they Tried it! And Delta got rid of them BECAUSE they might have had Union Rumblings in the ranks..

Uh DGS is no different the UGE for UA and AA has piedmont and Eagle ground handling, the ground handling unions don't care who the company uses for any stations that are not regulated by scope so long as the stations that have to be mainline are mainline
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:56 am

B727skyguy wrote:
CALMSP wrote:
true, but don't think UA will be moving to DGS/Unifi soon. They have created their own handling company that is moving into most small outstations. This way they can control the personnel with paying them lower wages than mainline employees.

At my local airport, the mainline United and United Express operation has been ground handled by DGS for years. It still is. It always seemed odd to me that United has its own ground handling company yet it outsources some of its locations to a competitor instead.


United is just now in the process of turning a large number of stations over to UGE. UGE is still relatively new as a company.

Without getting deep into it, a lot of domestic outstation ground handling contracts are on three year renewals for an established handler.
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:17 pm

strfyr51 wrote:
Delta was ab.e to even Have DGS because they do NOT have a Union to speak of. Had they ground Unions like United and American? That Idea would have been Smoked when they Tried it! And Delta got rid of them BECAUSE they might have had Union Rumblings in the ranks..


American has Envoy.
United has UGE.
Alaska has McGee Air
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:28 pm

NWAESC wrote:
strfyr51 wrote:
Delta was ab.e to even Have DGS because they do NOT have a Union to speak of. Had they ground Unions like United and American? That Idea would have been Smoked when they Tried it! And Delta got rid of them BECAUSE they might have had Union Rumblings in the ranks..


American has Envoy.
United has UGE.y
Alaska has McGee Air



American uses Envoy, Piedmont, mainline and outsourced companies like DGS (unifi?)
 
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Re: DAL Global Services (DGS) now Unifi

Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:20 pm

RDUDDJI wrote:
Wonder what Ubiquiti thinks of this. They have a whole product line called UniFi...I'd be shocked if they didn't already TM that name.


Trademarks are usually applied for to cover a specific area. Ubiquiti would have applied for it related to IT work, but probably didn't apply to cover aircraft ground services.

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