It just baffles me that QF is holding all the cards and the pilots have no ability to negotiate improvements on their side for the productivity gains management is demanding via their ultimatum.
QF is not saying that pilots cannot gain improvements and they are not requiring any productivity improvements if they don’t want to do the sunrise flying, what they are offering is a variation of their contract. That variation is including of the sunrise flying under new terms. They have been given the choice if they want to accept the offer and do the “new flying”, or reject the “new flying”. They cannot negotiate improvements on something that is not in their contracts, it is a new starting point.
The current arrangements on the A380 and 744 are not sustainable. For what it’s worth, the sunrise flying has been on the QF agenda for the best part of twenty years, they first looked at it with the A345 and 77L. It has been short sighted by the pilot union for a long time not have included it in their scope.
What it comes down to Johan, is that arguably Australia is the greatest country in the world to live in.
Sounds like a very arrogant statement to make, have you actually lived anywhere else ? Why do so many Australians choose to live elsewhere?
QF is being contacted by many of these pilots who didn’t get into QF in the first place, and now see an opportunity.
Again sounds like a very arrogant and elitist comment to make. We have had numerous pilots who resigned from QF to work for us, and their comments like having to address a colleague as “captain” even in social settings away from work is just baffling. QF has historically been full of nepotism and an awful cockpit environment, sons of current pilots (not females), and defence force friends were historically given the inside run. It’s only been the last 10-15 years where you have seen QF actually become gender balanced and accept people from other walks of life. I think we have had over 100 pilots go to QF in the past two years, and I keep hearing of workplace bullying by QF pilots towards them because they actually have other experience.
Until you have worked for another airline, and lived in another country, please refrain from telling us how the world works. Many QF pilots have never worked in industry, either joined directly as cadets or straight from defence.
I know some of the pilots who have contacted QF run large companies that have pilots placed in 30 plus airlines, they have a far better understanding of normal competitive employment terms, the average QF pilot would not have applied for a job elsewhere in the past 10 years and would be clueless on normal conditions. Those who took leave without pay to work overseas would have a better outlook on what the industry is like outside of QF. Some of them would have been flying ULH with Middle East carries and would be confused over what all the fuss is about.
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