Do anyone think that not KL alone but the AFR-KLM Group
will place the order instead, for both AF and KL?
Especially when AF is operating a damn old fleet of A321s (average 17.4 years old); including five A321-100
I also think it will be a group order.https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/ ... in-content
I’m not subscribed to this article, but I can still see some text on my computer, and this is what the article says:
Report: Air France-KLM To Reveal Major Narrowbody Order
July 29, 2019
Credit: Air France-KLM
Air France-KLM is reportedly set to announce a large order for new narrowbody aircraft as CEO Ben Smith moves forward with a long-awaited revamp of the airline group’s short- and medium-haul fleet.
This article is at least making it sound like it’ll be a group order. Can they get more discounts if the group makes an order because that will most likely be a bulk order?
The article is from the 29 July and Air France-KLM did annonce they were ordering 60 firm plus 60 options A220-300 destined for Air France on the 30 July.
Since the A350 and 787 order, all major order are made by the group. That doesn't mean they are combined orders.
Back on track, both the French and Dutch gouvernement are ready to save Air France and KLM and are talking together on how to do so if needed. Are they going to save the group or are they going to save their respective airline in some kind of divorce isn't clear yet.
On the Airbus front, gouvernement are also considering buying around 30 billion € of planes in the next 3 years to support the industry. How is also unclear.
But both plan combined means European gouvernements will want to support both their airline and Airbus. I don't think a Boeing order from KLM (or Air France-KLM) in the next 3 years is a possibility anymore. The likely scenario now is that the Dutch state is going to help KLM or the group finance 737 replacement with new A320 neo family planes. What was I presume Ben Smith plan all along. Even the longer term possibility of MAX at Transavia and Transavia France is very questionnable now.
727 AT, 737 UX/SK/TO/SS, 747 UT/AF/SQ/BA/SS, 767 UA, 777 AF, A300 IW/TG, A310 EK, A318/19/20/21 AF/U2/VY, A332/3 EK/QR/TX, A343 AF, A388 AF, E145/170/190 A5/WF, Q400 WF, ATR 72 A5/TX, CRJ100/700/1000 A5, C-150/172, PC-6.