RvA wrote:Boof02671 wrote:SESGDL wrote:
False. DL has both a larger widebody fleet and also is generating more RPMs from long haul flights than AA. Try again.
Nothing false about DL giving too much flying to its partners ALPA has won several arbitrations on it. And not all DL’s widebodies fly international
“The arbitrator who heard the first four Korean Air Joint Venture (JV) Scope grievances—MEC Grievance Numbers 18-22, 19-03, 19-04 and 19-08— has issued a liability award on all eight Scope violations alleged by ALPA. The arbitrator sustained all four grievances and confirmed that the Company violated Section 1 of the PWA in all eight instances, including one violation of Section 1 E. 10. and seven violations of Section 1 E. 8.
This ruling reaffirms the Company's obligation to abide by the terms of the Delta pilots' PWA and its Scope clause.
ALPA will post the arbitrator's decision on the MEC website shortly.
The arbitrator sustained ALPA's first four Scope grievances related to the Korean Air JV.
The arbitrator held that the Company committed a total of eight violations of Section 1 of the PWA, including one violation of Section 1 E. 10. and seven violations of Section 1 E. 8.
Now that these violations have been proven, the case will proceed to a second phase to determine the remedies for the violations.”
And the just the latest one.
Isn’t Delta the single largest airline in terms of seats across the Atlantic? Could be BA as well but either way DL is top 3 so not sure what this outsourcing is comment is all about. Also, giving some routes to partners who do better because of what point of sale bias a route might have makes sense if in a JV. It benefits everyone.
Anyway, none of this has anything to do with my comment about smaller premium cabins yet making more profit.
Their pilots beg to differ.
https://www.ajc.com/blog/airport/delta- ... Va3c2aizJ/
https://skift.com/2019/08/23/delta-pilo ... -partners/
“ DO PILOTS HAVE PROOF?
They say they do, and as evidence, they point to Delta’s flights between the United States and London Heathrow.
Delta and Virgin Atlantic won anti-trust immunity in 2013. Since then, the union said, Virgin Atlantic has grown its U.S.-UK block hours — that’s the time scheduled from gate-to-gate — by 33 percent, while Delta’s have increased just 2 percent.“
“ IS THIS REALLY LABOR ARBITRAGE?
The union says Delta has turned over routes to Virgin Atlantic because the UK airline has cheaper labor costs.
“Among other disparities, Virgin pilots who fly between the US and UK are compensated at a significantly lower rates than are Delta pilots,” the union said.
In addition, the union said, Virgin Atlantic’s regulatory rules are different. Between London and New York, Virgin Atlantic carries only two pilots, while Delta needs three. Over time, that can amount to significant savings.
“The pilots appear to have a decent argument, if Delta is using Virgin Atlantic to essentially outsource its transatlantic flying,” said Madhu Unnikrishnan, editor of Skift Airline Weekly. “Labor arbitrage is not good for labor relations, and if the new joint venture allows for this — choosing one carrier to grow over the other and reducing the number of pilots needed for flights — then it could sour Delta’s relations with its pilots.”