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Re: Updated: Interjet gets new investors, seek to grow

Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:01 pm

jmc1975 wrote:
They should merge with VivaAerobus and then rename/rebrand to Mexicana. That would give them a solid domestic network against Aeroméxico and Volaris.


Not sure what's in it for VivaAerobus. They already have so much of Mexico covered. The cost of a merger for any carrier right now would seem insurmountable.
 
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Re: Update: Interjet Now only flying SSJ

Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:22 pm

LatinPlane wrote:
slcdeltarumd11 wrote:
Yeah I think horrible management more than anything. Instead of trying to develop something unique they all were just chasing market share. It's like no one was watching their spending. Always moving towards the next goal not optimizing and perfecting what they have.

Aero Mexico almost looks worse. Its so large , so it's issues are even larger and harder to pull out of the tail spin.


Highly inaccurate your statement about AM. All the Mexican LLC's were losing money at one point or the other as they battled capturing domestic market share when they took over Mexicana's piece of the pie, but AM has been turning an operating profit throughout all this time, particularly because it focused on international growth and kept conservative on the domestic front.

Despite the fare wars, Volaris and Viva Aerobus have both among the most lowest operating cost of any airline in North America and Latin America. VIVA in particular will come out just fine. But among all the Mexican carriers, AM is the only one with a safety net of tangible assets, being the only Mexican airline to own its own aircraft which is comprised of 30% of its fleet. None of the Mexican LLC's own any of the aircraft. AM is a well run organization no doubt it has problems, but compared to Avianca and LATAM is in much better shape to weather the storm.

Interjet just never figured out its business model and this act of god was the last last straw to break the camel's back.


I don't think AM has been well run since Delta took over. Increasingly, they are becoming a Delta feeder.
 
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Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:38 am

Tomorrow XA-JBA will join its four other brothers in the Interjet fleet.
 
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Re: Updated: Interjet gets new investors, seek to grow

Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:04 pm

what happened with XA-DAS?
 
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Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:43 am

danipawa wrote:
what happened with XA-DAS?


No idea, it was suppposed to come back before XA-MRM. BTW XA-MRM went to be serviced to Toluca, apparently it was flying under MEL conditions.
 
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Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:24 am

5 actives SSJ: VER, JBA, MRM, PPY, VAS
 
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Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:30 am

danipawa wrote:
5 actives SSJ: VER, JBA, MRM, PPY, VAS


Not exactly, XA-MRM went back to TLC for maintenance, I expect at least two more SSJs to join the fleet for August. Probably XA-DAS and XA-MRM.
 
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Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:30 pm

XA-DAS just flew from TLC to MEX, so now we can confirm five SU95s active in 4Os fleet, it seems now they will be flying 2x daily routes to TIJ,MTY and CUN. Amazing comeback from both the SSJ and Interjet, best of all its almost three months of flying the SSJ-only and its dispatch reliability and on-time departures and arrivals have been excellent, as well as their occupation factors which were around 84% in June. It seems that flying small jets will be the way to go in this covid-driven world.
 
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Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:34 am

Wayfarer515 wrote:
XA-DAS just flew from TLC to MEX, so now we can confirm five SU95s active in 4Os fleet, it seems now they will be flying 2x daily routes to TIJ,MTY and CUN. Amazing comeback from both the SSJ and Interjet, best of all its almost three months of flying the SSJ-only and its dispatch reliability and on-time departures and arrivals have been excellent, as well as their occupation factors which were around 84% in June. It seems that flying small jets will be the way to go in this covid-driven world.


Interjet is looking good! It's really shocking but the smaller SSJs are perfect right now. They don't need larger planes. They just have to keep focused on the good and ride this pandemic. They have to think small to ride this out or will collapse again if they get too greedy. Just keep doing what they are doing, it's working. I am wishing them the best of luck here , amazing turn around
 
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Re: Updated: Interjet gets new investors, seek to grow

Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:07 pm

The city of Chicago is suing the Mexican airline Interjet for US $2.56 million for failing to pay taxes and fees owed to O’Hare International Airport.
According to the lawsuit, the city notified Interjet of its debts on February but the airline has still not settled them. The two parties have been summoned to participate in a hearing on August 10.

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/chicago-sues-interjet/

Seems these guys have a trail of bad debt everywhere...
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
 
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Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:42 pm

LAXintl wrote:
The city of Chicago is suing the Mexican airline Interjet for US $2.56 million for failing to pay taxes and fees owed to O’Hare International Airport.
According to the lawsuit, the city notified Interjet of its debts on February but the airline has still not settled them. The two parties have been summoned to participate in a hearing on August 10.

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/chicago-sues-interjet/

Seems these guys have a trail of bad debt everywhere...


Old news...https://a21.com.mx/aerolineas/2020/06/1 ... a-de-pagos
 
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Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:43 pm

Starting today Aug. 1st, 4O will increase their frequencies to TIJ,GDL and CUN among others, and increase them throughout the month, and all this will be with SSJs. It is expected XA-BVM and XA-NGO to come back soon, besides of course XA-MRM which will probably be available next week. From there on it becomes a bit dicy, XA-LLV is a good candidate to be put back into service but the fuselage was damaged when the engine fairing blew up a few years ago. The rest of the fleet is mothballed and requires more work to put it back in service, it is still not clear if Interjet will commit to it or not. UAC is not providing them any financial help, just giving them some spares in advance which is good enough I guess. Don´t expect any Airbus to come back this quarter either, probably will be pushed back to Q12021, that is if they ever come back.
 
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Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:56 am

BVM, NGO are in maintenance already ?
 
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Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:07 am

Wayfarer515 wrote:
Starting today Aug. 1st, 4O will increase their frequencies to TIJ,GDL and CUN among others, and increase them throughout the month, and all this will be with SSJs. It is expected XA-BVM and XA-NGO to come back soon, besides of course XA-MRM which will probably be available next week. From there on it becomes a bit dicy, XA-LLV is a good candidate to be put back into service but the fuselage was damaged when the engine fairing blew up a few years ago. The rest of the fleet is mothballed and requires more work to put it back in service, it is still not clear if Interjet will commit to it or not. UAC is not providing them any financial help, just giving them some spares in advance which is good enough I guess. Don´t expect any Airbus to come back this quarter either, probably will be pushed back to Q12021, that is if they ever come back.


How many pilots do they have with SU95 type rating?
 
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Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:39 am

I seem to be an outlier here... but I have had nothing but excellent experiences with Interjet. They've all been on A320 series aircraft HAV-MEX, maybe 12-14 times in an 18 month period (last in early March 2020). Always on time, good service, and pretty heavy loads.

Can't say the same about any other Mexican carrier.

If they continued with an all SSJ fleet, and assuming they could get all 22 up and running again, there would still have to be major cuts across their network. Would it be prudent for them to shrink that much, if they are able to support the expense of a smaller Airbus fleet as well?
 
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Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:20 pm

danipawa wrote:
BVM, NGO are in maintenance already ?

Yes, but not sure which one will be ready first.
 
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Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:26 pm

rabader wrote:
Wayfarer515 wrote:
Starting today Aug. 1st, 4O will increase their frequencies to TIJ,GDL and CUN among others, and increase them throughout the month, and all this will be with SSJs. It is expected XA-BVM and XA-NGO to come back soon, besides of course XA-MRM which will probably be available next week. From there on it becomes a bit dicy, XA-LLV is a good candidate to be put back into service but the fuselage was damaged when the engine fairing blew up a few years ago. The rest of the fleet is mothballed and requires more work to put it back in service, it is still not clear if Interjet will commit to it or not. UAC is not providing them any financial help, just giving them some spares in advance which is good enough I guess. Don´t expect any Airbus to come back this quarter either, probably will be pushed back to Q12021, that is if they ever come back.


How many pilots do they have with SU95 type rating?


My guess is that there are not many left, I think this will be the main problem from now on. I think they can put back into service up to 12 SSJs if they really want to, but I am not sure if they have the pilots to fill that much anymore. I don´t think bringing back the Airbus is the smart thing to do right now, they can cover most of their destinations in North America and Central America without any problem with the SSJ. Maybe they just need a handful of Airbus to cover the long-legged routes.
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Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:37 pm

The fact that they are not giving up is astonishing...
 
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Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:02 pm

anxo75 wrote:
The fact that they are not giving up is astonishing...



They’ll become the little airline that could if they make it...


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Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:49 pm

Faro wrote:
anxo75 wrote:
The fact that they are not giving up is astonishing...



They’ll become the little airline that could if they make it...


Far

I think they outgrew the market too far and too quick. They should have sticked with the SSJs instead of trying to become another Viva/Volaris. Good riddance to Mr. Shaw and his "flying sardine can" policy, the way things are going in Mexico, Interjet will most likely take over Aeromexico's local market, since it seems very unlikely,unlike Interjet, they will be able to get out of that Ch.11 hole, they are losing money at an accelerated rate now and unless they get rid of a good portion of their fleet Covid economy will bite them really hard.
 
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Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:46 pm

Interjet with codeshare agrenment with Aeromar:

https://a21.com.mx/aerolineas/2020/08/0 ... -comercial
 
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Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:12 am

XA-MRM back in service after a brief spell on the sidelines. 5 Superjets in full service.
Which one is next to be brought back online?
 
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Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:00 am

mark1484 wrote:
XA-MRM back in service after a brief spell on the sidelines. 5 Superjets in full service.
Which one is next to be brought back online?


It's 6 actually. VER, JBA, MRM, PPY, VAS and DAS
 
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Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:00 pm

Wayfarer515 wrote:
Faro wrote:
anxo75 wrote:
The fact that they are not giving up is astonishing...



They’ll become the little airline that could if they make it...


Far

I think they outgrew the market too far and too quick. They should have sticked with the SSJs instead of trying to become another Viva/Volaris. Good riddance to Mr. Shaw and his "flying sardine can" policy, the way things are going in Mexico, Interjet will most likely take over Aeromexico's local market, since it seems very unlikely,unlike Interjet, they will be able to get out of that Ch.11 hole, they are losing money at an accelerated rate now and unless they get rid of a good portion of their fleet Covid economy will bite them really hard.

None of this makes any sense.

1) Interjet had been operating the A320 for about 8 years before they got their first SSJ.

2) Interjet never implemented a “flying sardine can” policy, any talk of it was to try and turn around all their losses.all their planes were still generously configured.

3) I’m not sure why you are so pessimistic on AM. It’s not like Interjet crawled out of their hole themselves. They had to be bailed out (by politically connected businessmen) and have a ton of debt they need to clear. Good load factors doesn’t mean everything is all peachy.

4) Interjet is a long ways from taking over AM’s local market. We are talking about an airline that is currently only operating 5-6 SSJs. Expansion beyond the assets they already have (eg the SSJs) is going to be difficult/expensive for Interjet, considering they have burned a lot of lessors and airports.
 
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Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:22 pm

Acer wrote:
mark1484 wrote:
XA-MRM back in service after a brief spell on the sidelines. 5 Superjets in full service.
Which one is next to be brought back online?


It's 6 actually. VER, JBA, MRM, PPY, VAS and DAS



Fantastic news, only 16 left to go!
 
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Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:11 pm

mark1484 wrote:
Acer wrote:
mark1484 wrote:
XA-MRM back in service after a brief spell on the sidelines. 5 Superjets in full service.
Which one is next to be brought back online?


It's 6 actually. VER, JBA, MRM, PPY, VAS and DAS



Fantastic news, only 16 left to go!

Next candidates in the "revival" list: XA-BVM, XA-IJR,XA-LLV and XA-NGO. Probably the closest one on this group is XA-NGO followed by XA-BVM.
 
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Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:04 pm

Interjet earlier on this year announce flights to Cali-Colombia from MEX, they were suppose to start this last June.
Anyone knows if Interjet still plans to fly to CLO?
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:45 pm

No they are announcing they are about to buy new planes. These guys are unbelievable...
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:54 pm

Honestly interjet clearly has figured out to get the SSJ flying. Their next bottleneck could be lack of pilots. They should focus on getting say 10 SSJs flying make sure they have the pilots. They can ride out this pandemic and reduced demand with that. Shooting too big and running Into more reliability issues will be the death of them. They can't run into pilot issues and suffer from reliability issues again. They are so much more reliable now then the old interjet,it's very ironic. Just keep the good trend going and ride this pandemic out. Aero Mexico is not going to end up well after this pandemic, interjet just needs to survive it and the possibilities are good for them but thinking too big will kill them again right now. Their only goal should be to ride out the pandemic and keep their ssj reliability up and train more pilots.
 
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Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:39 pm

It's 2:36pm in Mexico City LT. Aeromexico has 37 planes in the air worldwide and Interjet 0. Please, enlighten me, what am I noooooooot seeing, hearing or reading that with 6 badly configured jets (yes, instead of 93, they should put 99 seats ASAP), will put AM on trouble? How? Later night, I'll post the whole operations all airlines had out from MEX today.

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Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:55 am

I honestly have no clue how Interjet is still flying. But then again in a country plagued with corruption somehow I am not surprised.
 
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Sat Aug 08, 2020 4:14 am

As I post:

Right now on flightradar24 planes in the air:

AeroMar 1
Aeromexico 10
Interjet 1
VivAerobus 18
Volaris 20

Out from MEX today, compared to 3 weeks ago, a rise of 14%:

https://twitter.com/flyAPM/status/12919 ... 09952?s=20

Aeromar x 11
Aeromexico x 127
Interjet x 11
VivaAerobus x 24
Volaris x 40

Come on! Wake up and smell the coffee... Interjet NOT only compites with AM... AM has another market, before CV19 AM had already secured 38% of its traffic with connections. AM doesn't not care if it has a big pie in the domestic market as long as certain cities are well covered and completes it's international network.

Interjet is a player that has to also fierce strong competition from well organized and EFFICIENT loco's name it Viva and Volaris. Even stupidly Interjet tried to compete in the past with TAR an it's E145.

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Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:40 pm

Airbus A320 -214 4235 XA-DOS Interjet ferried 12aug20 TLC-SFB-LCQ on return to lessor ex OE-IAX
 
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Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:36 pm

Some recent developments at Interjet:

1) More frequencies on the MEX-CUN,MEX-MTY routes, each going for 4x daily.
2) MEX-CJS added, MEX-TIJ remains but with two stopovers either via MTY or GDL. Other routes from MTY,CUN and even MID opened, generally speaking all these eventually see the aircraft coming back to MEX at the end of the day. This flight schedule calls for an additional two to three additional aircraft with a daily utilization of 12-14 hours with the new schedules, so we can expect at least another two SSJs rejoining the fleet soon.
3) A recent photo of one of the new owners shows SSJ00 XA-GCD almost ready to enter the fleet. XA-JLG also seems to being worked on.
4) There are strong rumours going on about the Airbus fleet not coming back, at least not for the rest of this year. There are reports of non-payment for the A320 crews. There were also layoffs in other non-essential areas of the company.
5) The SU95 simulator has been taken out of customs from Veracruz port and will be put into operation at TLC. Russian specialists have arrived to set it up and running. There were also indications some UAC-Regional Jet(previously known as SCAC) execs. seen in MEX having talks with Interjet´s new management. The magic number seems to be 20 SSJs in the air by year's end.
6) IMHO, Interjet seems to have embraced a new reality in which they will focus on what Aeromexico Connect is leaving behind, and fight these markets with the ULCCs with a lower cost of ownership by using their owned SSJs. There´s also the possibility in the future Aeromar will become the regional branch and Interjet might return to the international scene, but survival seems to be their priority right now.
7) One small but interesting detail, Interjet is now offering free snacks and beverages once again, this is a departure from the William Shaw vision of going full ULCC model.

Here are the pics. showing XA-GCD and XA-JLG:
Image
Image
 
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Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:08 pm

is the guy at the bottom one of the new investors?
 
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Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:12 pm

kondoo wrote:
is the guy at the bottom one of the new investors?

Yes he is, I think his name is Carlos Del Valle.
 
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Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:38 am

with those 2, 8 SSJ back to service.
 
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Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:13 pm

Wayfarer515 wrote:
Some recent developments at Interjet:

1) More frequencies on the MEX-CUN,MEX-MTY routes, each going for 4x daily.
2) MEX-CJS added, MEX-TIJ remains but with two stopovers either via MTY or GDL. Other routes from MTY,CUN and even MID opened, generally speaking all these eventually see the aircraft coming back to MEX at the end of the day. This flight schedule calls for an additional two to three additional aircraft with a daily utilization of 12-14 hours with the new schedules, so we can expect at least another two SSJs rejoining the fleet soon.
3) A recent photo of one of the new owners shows SSJ00 XA-GCD almost ready to enter the fleet. XA-JLG also seems to being worked on.
4) There are strong rumours going on about the Airbus fleet not coming back, at least not for the rest of this year. There are reports of non-payment for the A320 crews. There were also layoffs in other non-essential areas of the company.
5) The SU95 simulator has been taken out of customs from Veracruz port and will be put into operation at TLC. Russian specialists have arrived to set it up and running. There were also indications some UAC-Regional Jet(previously known as SCAC) execs. seen in MEX having talks with Interjet´s new management. The magic number seems to be 20 SSJs in the air by year's end.
6) IMHO, Interjet seems to have embraced a new reality in which they will focus on what Aeromexico Connect is leaving behind, and fight these markets with the ULCCs with a lower cost of ownership by using their owned SSJs. There´s also the possibility in the future Aeromar will become the regional branch and Interjet might return to the international scene, but survival seems to be their priority right now.
7) One small but interesting detail, Interjet is now offering free snacks and beverages once again, this is a departure from the William Shaw vision of going full ULCC model.

Here are the pics. showing XA-GCD and XA-JLG:
Image
Image

Not sure that engine is ready...
 
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Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:59 pm

I think the engines are OK. The real question is has Sukhoi learned its lessons and started stocking adequate supplies of spare parts needed to keep the SSJ in routine service, or have they released the various manufacturers to talk to and sell parts to the owners and repair shops working on the aircraft without going through Sukhoi?

Originally, all parts and all technical questions had to be obtained through Sukhoi, and Sukhoi did not stock enough parts in their central warehouse to support routine ongoing repairs, not to mention stock up on parts where it was identified that a few specific parts were not lasting as long as intended (a fairly common issue for all aircraft manufactures and sub suppliers). As a result, Aircraft sat on the ground awaiting parts. I believe at least 3 "Western" airlines who tried the SSJ experienced the same issues - which is what really killed the SSJ outside of Russia. Adequate parts and technical support is required for any modern aircraft to be successful in the world today.

Have a great day,
 
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Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:57 pm

The SSJ is all they need right now. If they focus on that one thing and ride out this pandemic I see a real future for them.
 
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Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:21 pm

SSJ100 XA-GCD is now in the air, that makes it the seventh SSJ to join the fleet.
 
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Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:59 pm

2175301 wrote:
I think the engines are OK. The real question is has Sukhoi learned its lessons and started stocking adequate supplies of spare parts needed to keep the SSJ in routine service, or have they released the various manufacturers to talk to and sell parts to the owners and repair shops working on the aircraft without going through Sukhoi?

Originally, all parts and all technical questions had to be obtained through Sukhoi, and Sukhoi did not stock enough parts in their central warehouse to support routine ongoing repairs, not to mention stock up on parts where it was identified that a few specific parts were not lasting as long as intended (a fairly common issue for all aircraft manufactures and sub suppliers). As a result, Aircraft sat on the ground awaiting parts. I believe at least 3 "Western" airlines who tried the SSJ experienced the same issues - which is what really killed the SSJ outside of Russia. Adequate parts and technical support is required for any modern aircraft to be successful in the world today.

Have a great day,

The engines have combustor liners that are lasting only 2,000 to 4,000 hours:

https://simpleflying.com/aeroflot-super ... e-failure/

Yes, the LEAP has liners only lasting 6,000 hours. This is a problem that many new engines have since the first prototype jet engines.

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Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:52 pm

XA-GCD is reportedly back in service. That makes seven Sukhois flying.
 
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Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:25 am

Meanwhile, back in the real world, legal proceedings have started by the employees unions of Interjet against the company over the non-payment to its crews. The airline isn't able to make payroll despite the $150 injection received earlier this year.

Only in Spanish.

https://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/empresas/interjet-incumple-pago-a-trabajadores-y-sindicato-emprende-acciones-legales
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Re: Updated: Interjet gets new investors, seek to grow

Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:22 am

LatinPlane wrote:
Meanwhile, back in the real world, legal proceedings have started by the employees unions of Interjet against the company over the non-payment to its crews. The airline isn't able to make payroll despite the $150 injection received earlier this year.

Only in Spanish.

https://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/empresas/interjet-incumple-pago-a-trabajadores-y-sindicato-emprende-acciones-legales


Crews. Ramp agents. Mechanics. Administration. Etc. You name it.

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PS. VivaAerobus is going after ALL Interjet's domestic and international routes.
 
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Re: Updated: Interjet gets new investors, seek to grow

Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:38 am

LatinPlane wrote:
Meanwhile, back in the real world, legal proceedings have started by the employees unions of Interjet against the company over the non-payment to its crews. The airline isn't able to make payroll despite the $150 injection received earlier this year.

Only in Spanish.

https://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/empresas/interjet-incumple-pago-a-trabajadores-y-sindicato-emprende-acciones-legales


Per Google Translate:

Union accuses Interjet not paying workers and takes legal action

* Alejandro del Valle, one of the company's investors, promised to cover the payroll on Friday, said union leader Francisco Joaquín del Olmo.

* On the other hand, airline sources point out that there is already a tiered payment plan.

Section 15 of the Mexican Workers' Confederation (CTM) accused Interjet of failing to pay the payroll of its workers, this despite promises from Alejandro del Valle, one of the airline's investors.

The payment of wages was not made on Friday, so the union took the necessary legal actions to guarantee the workers' labor rights, it was explained in a letter sent to Interjet collaborators unionized to said section.

In this regard, Interjet sources confirmed that there is already a staggered payment plan for the airline, so it hopes to regularize payments next Monday.

"Interjet, through the engineer Alejandro del Valle, constantly communicated to the union that the payment commitments acquired with its workers would be covered today (Friday) and without setbacks; we already know that this did not happen", mentions the document of which The Financier has a copy.

The letter, signed by the director of section 15, Francisco Joaquín del Olmo, indicates that Del Valle himself contacted him to ask for a meeting next Monday.

However, Del Olmo indicated that the lack of payment to the workers undermined confidence with the airline, which for months has had difficulties in its air and financial operation.

Despite the fact that a few weeks ago the investment of 150 million dollars to capitalize the company was announced, the airline has serious difficulties, such as the claim of passengers who have not been able to fly with Interjet due to the repeated cancellation of their flights.

In addition, company employees have organized to protest against the airline's management, which in the midst of the worst crisis in the industry has not covered their salaries.

"I ask the company and its shareholders not to let it fall, but on the contrary, to raise the image that the workers of your company have," added the union leader.
 
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Re: Updated: Interjet gets new investors, seek to grow

Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:54 am

LatinPlane wrote:
Meanwhile, back in the real world, legal proceedings have started by the employees unions of Interjet against the company over the non-payment to its crews. The airline isn't able to make payroll despite the $150 injection received earlier this year.

Only in Spanish.

https://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/empresas/interjet-incumple-pago-a-trabajadores-y-sindicato-emprende-acciones-legales


It seems the 150M USD cash injection has not taken place. The current owners, the Aleman family, have been unwilling or unavailable to sign the documents authorizing the transaction. I am betting it is the former and not the latter, a rift seems to be brewing within the Aleman family regarding this topic. In the meantime, hundreds of families are being hung to dry by the current management. They are still saying they will keep their 7500 workforce, but they seem to forget we are not in a feudal system anymore, and they need to pay for that workforce. Shameless human beings indeed.
 
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Re: Updated: Interjet gets new investors, seek to grow

Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:05 am

Wow... In the US, missing payroll means a company is defunct. It is such a big deal, most quietly pay on Thursday night to prevent any mixup. There was once such a mixup at my employer and they jumped through hoops to get us paid before 5pm US East coast time.

Interjet is in real trouble missing payroll. I wish them luck, but until I hear about an official new owner or an annual profit, they are now in doubt.

Maybe it is a US cultural thing, be we really look down on missing payroll.

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I recall when Jet Airways missed payroll and some tried to claim it wasn't as big a deal outside of the US. Well for US investors, it is pretty much impossible to explain away.
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Re: Updated: Interjet gets new investors, seek to grow

Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:05 am

Missing payroll by a few days isn't as shocking in some countries. Especially with a business that has had a rough time, it is really to be expected...
 
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Re: Updated: Interjet gets new investors, seek to grow

Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:05 am

lightsaber wrote:
Wow... In the US, missing payroll means a company is defunct. It is such a big deal, most quietly pay on Thursday night to prevent any mixup. There was once such a mixup at my employer and they jumped through hoops to get us paid before 5pm US East coast time.

Interjet is in real trouble missing payroll. I wish them luck, but until I hear about an official new owner or an annual profit, they are now in doubt.

Maybe it is a US cultural thing, be we really look down on missing payroll.

Lightsaber

I recall when Jet Airways missed payroll and some tried to claim it wasn't as big a deal outside of the US. Well for US investors, it is pretty much impossible to explain away.


I don't get why workers in other countries continue to go to work when they are not being paid. I think that might just be a big cultural difference between the US and the rest of the world. If a US company did not make payroll, they would experience mass resignations and defection of talent to other companies.
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