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Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:43 pm

Are there any airlines currently flying to both Orlando airports, MCO and SFB ?
Could happen someday that SFB (partly) become to MCO what FLL is to MIA ?
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Re: Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:46 pm

Nope. The 5 airlines serving SFB have no presence at MCO.

And two (TUI UK and TUI NL) of those at SFB are moving to MLB IIRC.
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Re: Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:51 pm

If my memory serves me correctly, Allegiant briefly served the both of them, realized their mistake rather quickly and re-circled the wagons over at SFB.
 
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Re: Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:57 pm

tys777 wrote:
If my memory serves me correctly, Allegiant briefly served the both of them, realized their mistake rather quickly and re-circled the wagons over at SFB.

Yes, you are correct. They did so in the late 2000s/early 2010s when FL ventured into many G4 routes from Orlando. G4 shifted those competing routes to MCO. Only lasted a year or 2 at the most.
 
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Re: Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:10 pm

The MCO region just isn’t big enough yet for these two airports to complement each other the way that FLL/MIA do. The only other exception in FL is perhaps TPA/SRQ, which are overlapping regions. (And yet, the more apt comparison, in TPA/PIE, offers a history of airlines trying to serve both, and ultimately failing.)
 
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Re: Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:25 pm

SFB is to AZA as MCO is to PHX. I can’t ever see them complimenting each as well.
 
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Re: Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:32 pm

Allegiant served both from early 2010 to early 2011. The more frequent and popular destinations moved to MCO with the less frequent staying at SFB. The original plan was to entirely move to MCO but when they discovered they were just another small fish in a big pond at MCO they switched back.
 
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Re: Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:34 pm

2travel2know2 wrote:
Are there any airlines currently flying to both Orlando airports, MCO and SFB ?
Could happen someday that SFB (partly) become to MCO what FLL is to MIA ?



MCO to Orlando Convention Center: 17 min best to 21min worst (on Sunday) via car & 52 min to 1h, 21 min by bus.
SFB to Orlando Convention Center: 47 min best to 48min worst (on Sunday) via car & no bus service.

MCO to Disney World: 19 min best to 24min worst (on Sunday) via car & 1h, 21 m to 1h, 50 min by bus.
SFB to Disney World: 47 min best to 48min worst (on Sunday) via car & no bus service.


So why would you add all that time. Time is money & time away from the fun.
 
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Re: Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:49 pm

rbavfan wrote:
2travel2know2 wrote:
Are there any airlines currently flying to both Orlando airports, MCO and SFB ?
Could happen someday that SFB (partly) become to MCO what FLL is to MIA ?



MCO to Orlando Convention Center: 17 min best to 21min worst (on Sunday) via car & 52 min to 1h, 21 min by bus.
SFB to Orlando Convention Center: 47 min best to 48min worst (on Sunday) via car & no bus service.

MCO to Disney World: 19 min best to 24min worst (on Sunday) via car & 1h, 21 m to 1h, 50 min by bus.
SFB to Disney World: 47 min best to 48min worst (on Sunday) via car & no bus service.


So why would you add all that time. Time is money & time away from the fun.


yeah no one really flies into or out of sfb. mco is just so much more convenient

also mco to convention center is closer to 10 minutes, its like 7 miles down 528.
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Re: Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:49 pm

axiom wrote:
The MCO region just isn’t big enough yet for these two airports to complement each other the way that FLL/MIA do. The only other exception in FL is perhaps TPA/SRQ, which are overlapping regions. (And yet, the more apt comparison, in TPA/PIE, offers a history of airlines trying to serve both, and ultimately failing.)


DAB complements MCO, not SFB.
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Re: Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:54 pm

rbavfan wrote:
2travel2know2 wrote:
Are there any airlines currently flying to both Orlando airports, MCO and SFB ?
Could happen someday that SFB (partly) become to MCO what FLL is to MIA ?



MCO to Orlando Convention Center: 17 min best to 21min worst (on Sunday) via car & 52 min to 1h, 21 min by bus.
SFB to Orlando Convention Center: 47 min best to 48min worst (on Sunday) via car & no bus service.

MCO to Disney World: 19 min best to 24min worst (on Sunday) via car & 1h, 21 m to 1h, 50 min by bus.
SFB to Disney World: 47 min best to 48min worst (on Sunday) via car & no bus service.


So why would you add all that time. Time is money & time away from the fun.


Because you might save more time on the other end if you live closer to an airport that Allegiant serves?
 
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Re: Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:02 am

not to mention SFB is in the middle of nowhere. the first time I went to SFB there was nothing around the airport, I couldn't believe there was an airport there, of course that was the day they sent space shuttle atlantis up the final time (cant remember the year 2010?) it could be built up now, but I highly doubt it.
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Re: Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:15 am

sonicruiser wrote:
axiom wrote:
The MCO region just isn’t big enough yet for these two airports to complement each other the way that FLL/MIA do. The only other exception in FL is perhaps TPA/SRQ, which are overlapping regions. (And yet, the more apt comparison, in TPA/PIE, offers a history of airlines trying to serve both, and ultimately failing.)


DAB complements MCO, not SFB.


DAB and MLB both compliment MCO.
 
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Re: Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:26 am

airtrantpa wrote:
not to mention SFB is in the middle of nowhere. the first time I went to SFB there was nothing around the airport, I couldn't believe there was an airport there, of course that was the day they sent space shuttle atlantis up the final time (cant remember the year 2010?) it could be built up now, but I highly doubt it.


Sanford has doubled in size since 2010 ... the airport draws from Volusia county ( Daytona Beach ) - Brevard County ( Melbourne ) ... I don't get this everyone that travels to central Florida is going to Disney or the convention center.

It must be working or Allegiant would not be there.
 
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Re: Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:27 am

HNLSLCPDX wrote:
SFB is to AZA as MCO is to PHX. I can’t ever see them complimenting each as well.

Doesn't WestJet fly to both airports

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Yes they do, from Calgary
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Re: Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:38 am

crjflyboy wrote:
Sanford has doubled in size since 2010 ... the airport draws from Volusia county ( Daytona Beach ) - Brevard County ( Melbourne ) ... I don't get this everyone that travels to central Florida is going to Disney or the convention center.

It must be working or Allegiant would not be there.


I live on the northeast side of Orlando so I am about the same distance to both MCO and SFB from 417. SFB is slightly closer for me but I still use MCO by default because of the US3. That said, I wish SFB was a real alternative airport like FLL because it would be a lot more convenient for people like me living on the east side of Orlando. If SFB had a decent variety of airlines, I would prefer it for convenience over MCO but its a hard sell to use SFB with just Allegiant.
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Re: Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:55 am

sonicruiser wrote:
If SFB had a decent variety of airlines, I would prefer it for convenience over MCO but its a hard sell to use SFB with just Allegiant.
What would be decent for SFB to start then?
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Re: Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:14 am

sonicruiser wrote:
crjflyboy wrote:
Sanford has doubled in size since 2010 ... the airport draws from Volusia county ( Daytona Beach ) - Brevard County ( Melbourne ) ... I don't get this everyone that travels to central Florida is going to Disney or the convention center.

It must be working or Allegiant would not be there.


I live on the northeast side of Orlando so I am about the same distance to both MCO and SFB from 417. SFB is slightly closer for me but I still use MCO by default because of the US3. That said, I wish SFB was a real alternative airport like FLL because it would be a lot more convenient for people like me living on the east side of Orlando. If SFB had a decent variety of airlines, I would prefer it for convenience over MCO but its a hard sell to use SFB with just Allegiant.


I live on the opposite side (St. Cloud) so my MCO alternative is MLB which I have found to be cheaper than MCO before surprisingly. The thing that’s great about MCO is that it’s easily accessible from both the 528 and 417 so you can most likely get to any part of Orange and most parts of Osceola and Seminole Counties in about ~30 mins (assuming there’s no traffic).
 
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Re: Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:49 am

I remember when Allegiant tried to serve MCO and struggled. The limited and expensive-to-rent gate space was a big issue for them. The big airlines (WN, DL, et. al.) have their own, exclusive deals for fuel, but Allegiant was forced to buy fuel at MCO's "retail price". In the end the convenience factor of being closer to "The Attractions" did not offset the higher operational costs at MCO, so Allegiant retreated back to the friendlier confines of SFB where they still had a presence.

In the past Spirit was courted heavily by SFB, but decided to focus on MCO and eventually turned it into one of their largest crew bases. The legacies such as DL were not interested in having SFB service dilute their operations at MCO and DAB. Therefore, SFB has had to be content being Allegiant's "fortress hub" and offering deals to charter airlines specializing in tourist vacation packages.
 
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Re: Airlines flying to both MCO and SFB?

Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:10 am

I believe that Aeromexico flew charters to SFB in addition to their regularly scheduled operations into MCO. This was probably 10 years ago now.

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