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What are the US Carriers doing with all of their excess wide body metal

Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:48 am

With AA DL UA not using their premium widebody planes to China/HKG, what are they doing with their planes? Sorry if I missed this in another thread.
 
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Re: What are the US Carriers doing with all of their excess wide body metal

Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:52 am

Putting them on domestic routes or extra flights to Europe.
 
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Re: What are the US Carriers doing with all of their excess wide body metal

Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:14 am

Are any using this as an opportunity to do mods or move forward any checks? Or are those schedules so dependent on other variables, e.g., capex, that it’s difficult to do?
 
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Re: What are the US Carriers doing with all of their excess wide body metal

Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:25 am

questions wrote:
Are any using this as an opportunity to do mods or move forward any checks? Or are those schedules so dependent on other variables, e.g., capex, that it’s difficult to do?


The problem is, most of the US3 do a lot of their heavy checks in HK and China, so very little if anything is getting done.
 
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Re: What are the US Carriers doing with all of their excess wide body metal

Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:26 am

questions wrote:
Are any using this as an opportunity to do mods or move forward any checks? Or are those schedules so dependent on other variables, e.g., capex, that it’s difficult to do?


My understanding is that they have to redeploy a lot of the flying instead of MX/Mods since most pilot groups have already bid on flying through May, and contract stipulations mean that the pilots will have to be paid regardless of whether the plane they were scheduled to fly on is in Maintenance or Mods.
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Re: What are the US Carriers doing with all of their excess wide body metal

Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:33 am

BA Are starting a third daily rotation to KSEA just for the month of May. Likely has something to do with their China cancellations I think. I just wish we had some diversity instead of 3x 772.
 
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Re: What are the US Carriers doing with all of their excess wide body metal

Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:01 am

Las Vegas and Orlando have picked up the wide body flights

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/ ... -size-jets
 
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Re: What are the US Carriers doing with all of their excess wide body metal

Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:46 am

UA has also placed the 772 on EWR-TPA daily beginning in March.
 
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Re: What are the US Carriers doing with all of their excess wide body metal

Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:55 am

UA is doing some extra maintenance on the widebody fleet, though they didn’t say exactly what. Also, as previously mentioned, they are being added to domestic routes. I know a 772 flew SFO-MCO last week and also SFO-LAX a couple times.
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Re: What are the US Carriers doing with all of their excess wide body metal

Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:03 am

AA is putting at least some of the 777 and 787 on domestic trans-con flights. Note that it has already announced China and HKG flights will not resume until at least Apr 24, so the widebody schedule below seems to coincide with that.

Los Angeles – Miami 29MAR20 – 24APR20 777-300ER operates 1 daily
Los Angeles – New York JFK 07APR20 – 24APR20 777-200ER operates 1 daily
San Francisco – Chicago O’Hare 28MAR20 – 24APR20 787-8 operates 1 daily
319/20/21 332/33 342/43/45 359/51 388 707 717 732/36/3G/38/39 74R/42/43/44/4E/48 757 762/63 772/7L/73/7W 788/89 D10 M80 135/40/45 175/90 DH1/4 CRJ/R7 L10
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Re: What are the US Carriers doing with all of their excess wide body metal

Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:45 pm

UA is adding 777 PHX-IAH
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Re: What are the US Carriers doing with all of their excess wide body metal

Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:45 pm

UA is adding 777 PHX-IAH
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Re: What are the US Carriers doing with all of their excess wide body metal

Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:52 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
questions wrote:
Are any using this as an opportunity to do mods or move forward any checks? Or are those schedules so dependent on other variables, e.g., capex, that it’s difficult to do?


My understanding is that they have to redeploy a lot of the flying instead of MX/Mods since most pilot groups have already bid on flying through May, and contract stipulations mean that the pilots will have to be paid regardless of whether the plane they were scheduled to fly on is in Maintenance or Mods.


No large US carrier has bid through May much less April. They will be getting ready to do April shortly which will likely now include all those planned domestic/European sectors.
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Re: What are the US Carriers doing with all of their excess wide body metal

Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:59 pm

Will these extra flights to Europe lead to lower prices?
 
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Re: What are the US Carriers doing with all of their excess wide body metal

Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:30 pm

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