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AA expand Tulsa maintenance base

Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:45 pm

On the back of new labor agreement, AA announced it will invest $550mil in the expansion and modernization of its Tulsa maintenance base.

The investment will include the construction of a new 193,000sq ft widebody capable hangar and base support building.

AA says it added 900 jobs in TUL in 2019, and foresees continued hiring as base grows.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/business/ame ... 4543e.html
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Re: AA expand Tulsa maintenance base

Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:36 pm

Good for them (AA) and existing employees (job security, promotions, etc.), and great news for the TUL area!
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Re: AA expand Tulsa maintenance base

Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:13 pm

Awesome news. I still remember when Tulsa PAID money to AA to keep its maintenance base open after the recession hit. It was obviously a good investment!
 
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Re: AA expand Tulsa maintenance base

Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:40 am

AA press release

http://news.aa.com/news/news-details/20 ... fault.aspx

The pretty amazing AA has continuously maintained MRO facilities in TUL since 1946!
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Re: AA expand Tulsa maintenance base

Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:16 am

LAXintl wrote:
On the back of new labor agreement, AA announced it will invest $550mil in the expansion and modernization of its Tulsa maintenance base.

The investment will include the construction of a new 193,000sq ft widebody capable hangar and base support building.

AA says it added 900 jobs in TUL in 2019, and foresees continued hiring as base grows.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/business/ame ... 4543e.html
https://aviationweek.com/mro/american-a ... ngar-tulsa

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER4C9_RWkAM ... name=small


Great news, but correction that only 600 jobs in 2019 (not 900).
 
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Re: AA expand Tulsa maintenance base

Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:34 am

I think the museum there is also getting expanded. The md-80 will go inside it.
 
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Re: AA expand Tulsa maintenance base

Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:23 am

LAXintl wrote:
On the back of new labor agreement, AA announced it will invest $550mil in the expansion and modernization of its Tulsa maintenance base.

The investment will include the construction of a new 193,000sq ft widebody capable hangar and base support building.

AA says it added 900 jobs in TUL in 2019, and foresees continued hiring as base grows.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/business/ame ... 4543e.html
https://aviationweek.com/mro/american-a ... ngar-tulsa

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER4C9_RWkAM ... name=small

Scope wise the new TA is a huge huge huge loss for the pre-merger AA people.

So if they are expanding TULE, its coming from somewhere else. Maybe they need a place to put all the bodies from the engine and component shops that will get outsourced?
 
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Re: AA expand Tulsa maintenance base

Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:29 pm

deltal1011man wrote:
Scope wise the new TA is a huge huge huge loss for the pre-merger AA people.

So if they are expanding TULE, its coming from somewhere else. Maybe they need a place to put all the bodies from the engine and component shops that will get outsourced?


Might some scope be coming from LAX maintenance base?
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Re: AA expand Tulsa maintenance base

Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:23 pm

deltal1011man wrote:
LAXintl wrote:
On the back of new labor agreement, AA announced it will invest $550mil in the expansion and modernization of its Tulsa maintenance base.

The investment will include the construction of a new 193,000sq ft widebody capable hangar and base support building.

AA says it added 900 jobs in TUL in 2019, and foresees continued hiring as base grows.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/business/ame ... 4543e.html
https://aviationweek.com/mro/american-a ... ngar-tulsa

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER4C9_RWkAM ... name=small

Scope wise the new TA is a huge huge huge loss for the pre-merger AA people.

So if they are expanding TULE, its coming from somewhere else. Maybe they need a place to put all the bodies from the engine and component shops that will get outsourced?

Uh what the agreement literally sets the current staffing as essentially the floor in what AA has to keep in house
 
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Re: AA expand Tulsa maintenance base

Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:40 pm

They are in essence replacing the hangars that only the MD80 fleet fit well in. Out go hangars 3 and 4 and they add two widebody bays or six narrowbody bays which are perfect for 737 or A32x.
 
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Re: AA expand Tulsa maintenance base

Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:04 pm

PW100 wrote:
deltal1011man wrote:
Scope wise the new TA is a huge huge huge loss for the pre-merger AA people.

So if they are expanding TULE, its coming from somewhere else. Maybe they need a place to put all the bodies from the engine and component shops that will get outsourced?


Might some scope be coming from LAX maintenance base?


Wrong. LAX has done its own large amount of hiring this year. This does not happen for a shrinking station.
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Re: AA expand Tulsa maintenance base

Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:46 pm

deltal1011man wrote:
LAXintl wrote:
On the back of new labor agreement, AA announced it will invest $550mil in the expansion and modernization of its Tulsa maintenance base.

The investment will include the construction of a new 193,000sq ft widebody capable hangar and base support building.

AA says it added 900 jobs in TUL in 2019, and foresees continued hiring as base grows.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/business/ame ... 4543e.html
https://aviationweek.com/mro/american-a ... ngar-tulsa

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER4C9_RWkAM ... name=small

Scope wise the new TA is a huge huge huge loss for the pre-merger AA people.

So if they are expanding TULE, its coming from somewhere else. Maybe they need a place to put all the bodies from the engine and component shops that will get outsourced?


PIT is loosing A321N introduction work as part of this agreement. That’s the only work that’s being lost I know of as for now.
 
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Re: AA expand Tulsa maintenance base

Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:24 am

dstblj52 wrote:
deltal1011man wrote:
LAXintl wrote:
On the back of new labor agreement, AA announced it will invest $550mil in the expansion and modernization of its Tulsa maintenance base.

The investment will include the construction of a new 193,000sq ft widebody capable hangar and base support building.

AA says it added 900 jobs in TUL in 2019, and foresees continued hiring as base grows.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/business/ame ... 4543e.html
https://aviationweek.com/mro/american-a ... ngar-tulsa

Image
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER4C9_RWkAM ... name=small

Scope wise the new TA is a huge huge huge loss for the pre-merger AA people.

So if they are expanding TULE, its coming from somewhere else. Maybe they need a place to put all the bodies from the engine and component shops that will get outsourced?

Uh what the agreement literally sets the current staffing as essentially the floor in what AA has to keep in house

The agreement sets a floor, which is a drop from the current AA contract (a huge drop actually) and sets the floor with things like forcing American to keep working on the JT8D and CF6s, you know, one engine that is gone and one engine that will be gone in a year.

But outsource away on the GEnX, GE90, CFM LEAP etc. What a win for the TWU/IAM. Basically agreeing to outsource all engine work in the next ~10 years.

Delta28L wrote:
deltal1011man wrote:
LAXintl wrote:
On the back of new labor agreement, AA announced it will invest $550mil in the expansion and modernization of its Tulsa maintenance base.

The investment will include the construction of a new 193,000sq ft widebody capable hangar and base support building.

AA says it added 900 jobs in TUL in 2019, and foresees continued hiring as base grows.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/business/ame ... 4543e.html
https://aviationweek.com/mro/american-a ... ngar-tulsa

Image
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER4C9_RWkAM ... name=small

Scope wise the new TA is a huge huge huge loss for the pre-merger AA people.

So if they are expanding TULE, its coming from somewhere else. Maybe they need a place to put all the bodies from the engine and component shops that will get outsourced?


PIT is loosing A321N introduction work as part of this agreement. That’s the only work that’s being lost I know of as for now.

Its not so much about what is actually being lost, its more about what the mechanics could force American to bring in if they just kept the current scope on the AA side, much less actually improve it.

DarkSnowyNight wrote:
PW100 wrote:
deltal1011man wrote:
Scope wise the new TA is a huge huge huge loss for the pre-merger AA people.

So if they are expanding TULE, its coming from somewhere else. Maybe they need a place to put all the bodies from the engine and component shops that will get outsourced?


Might some scope be coming from LAX maintenance base?


Wrong. LAX has done its own large amount of hiring this year. This does not happen for a shrinking station.

Yes it does.

If airline X decides to move work that will reduce 20 out of 100 jobs but has 40 people retiring or transferring then they are still going to be hiring like crazy, but the station is still losing work.

Not sure if that's what's going on at American though.

Dalmd88 wrote:
They are in essence replacing the hangars that only the MD80 fleet fit well in. Out go hangars 3 and 4 and they add two widebody bays or six narrowbody bays which are perfect for 737 or A32x.

I thought they were raising the roof on most of the MD80 hangar bays?
 
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Re: AA expand Tulsa maintenance base

Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:11 pm

DarkSnowyNight wrote:
PW100 wrote:
deltal1011man wrote:
Scope wise the new TA is a huge huge huge loss for the pre-merger AA people.

So if they are expanding TULE, its coming from somewhere else. Maybe they need a place to put all the bodies from the engine and component shops that will get outsourced?


Might some scope be coming from LAX maintenance base?


Wrong. LAX has done its own large amount of hiring this year. This does not happen for a shrinking station.


Wrong?? It was a question . . .

How can an honest question be labeled as wrong?

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Re: AA expand Tulsa maintenance base

Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:24 pm

deltal1011man wrote:
LAXintl wrote:
On the back of new labor agreement, AA announced it will invest $550mil in the expansion and modernization of its Tulsa maintenance base.

The investment will include the construction of a new 193,000sq ft widebody capable hangar and base support building.

AA says it added 900 jobs in TUL in 2019, and foresees continued hiring as base grows.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/business/ame ... 4543e.html
https://aviationweek.com/mro/american-a ... ngar-tulsa

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER4C9_RWkAM ... name=small

Scope wise the new TA is a huge huge huge loss for the pre-merger AA people.

So if they are expanding TULE, its coming from somewhere else. Maybe they need a place to put all the bodies from the engine and component shops that will get outsourced?

Where do you read anything about expansion? It’s modernization of an 1940s facility and replacement of an outdated hangar. Still good news for Tulsa but what’s with the Debbie downer commentary? Have you seen the new proposed contract? Outsourcing is far from it.
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Re: AA expand Tulsa maintenance base

Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:24 pm

PW100 wrote:
deltal1011man wrote:
Scope wise the new TA is a huge huge huge loss for the pre-merger AA people.

So if they are expanding TULE, its coming from somewhere else. Maybe they need a place to put all the bodies from the engine and component shops that will get outsourced?


Might some scope be coming from LAX maintenance base?

LAx is a line city not a base city.
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Re: AA expand Tulsa maintenance base

Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:26 pm

Delta28L wrote:
deltal1011man wrote:
LAXintl wrote:
On the back of new labor agreement, AA announced it will invest $550mil in the expansion and modernization of its Tulsa maintenance base.

The investment will include the construction of a new 193,000sq ft widebody capable hangar and base support building.

AA says it added 900 jobs in TUL in 2019, and foresees continued hiring as base grows.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/business/ame ... 4543e.html
https://aviationweek.com/mro/american-a ... ngar-tulsa

Image
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER4C9_RWkAM ... name=small

Scope wise the new TA is a huge huge huge loss for the pre-merger AA people.

So if they are expanding TULE, its coming from somewhere else. Maybe they need a place to put all the bodies from the engine and component shops that will get outsourced?


PIT is loosing A321N introduction work as part of this agreement. That’s the only work that’s being lost I know of as for now.

The NEOs moved to TUL because PIT doesn’t have space to work more than one at a time. AB has been delivering three all overlapping due to delays.
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Re: AA expand Tulsa maintenance base

Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:45 pm

LAXintl wrote:
On the back of new labor agreement...


I guess I'm posing this to parties with detailed info on the new contract, but was this investment a specific commitment made in the contract? (ie. Tulsa specifically, and that $ specifically?)

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