Moderators: jsumali2, richierich, ua900, PanAm_DC10, hOMSaR

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • 20
 
Aviator34ID
Posts: 82
Joined: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:34 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:48 pm

qf789 wrote:
Aviator34ID wrote:
Flying Y class on QF from PER to SYD tomorrow morning. On 3 days during the week I received emails inviting me to bid for an upgrade to J.

Are the suits not flying? I will be interested to see how full the J cabin is.


It doesn't happen to be the early departure around 530am?


Yes it is. Is that too early for J travellers? :smile:
 
eamondzhang
Posts: 1877
Joined: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:23 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:00 pm

Aviator34ID wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Aviator34ID wrote:
Flying Y class on QF from PER to SYD tomorrow morning. On 3 days during the week I received emails inviting me to bid for an upgrade to J.

Are the suits not flying? I will be interested to see how full the J cabin is.


It doesn't happen to be the early departure around 530am?


Yes it is. Is that too early for J travellers? :smile:

Well 530am departure is an ungodly hour that people would like to avoid

Michael
 
aerokiwi
Posts: 2793
Joined: Sun Jul 30, 2000 1:17 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:10 pm

qf789 wrote:
Update on Asiana services to SYD, now cancelled through to 28 Mar 20

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-05mar20/


That makes more sense. The first schedule changes seemed like the normal post summer reduction.

You'd think that at some point, when the virus is established in enough countries globally, the justification for travel restrictions starts to go away. Though with the kibosh on a lot of biz travel you wouldn't see a return to normal for a while. Three work trips this week and the planes are still packed. I'm guessing forward bookings from about 2 weeks from now will start to see the slackening of demand.
 
User avatar
qf2220
Posts: 1986
Joined: Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:16 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:58 am

Aviator34ID wrote:
Flying Y class on QF from PER to SYD tomorrow morning. On 3 days during the week I received emails inviting me to bid for an upgrade to J.

Are the suits not flying? I will be interested to see how full the J cabin is.


Lots of corporates are cutting costs at the moment with travel bans of varying levels. Eg Sydney Uni with $200m cut which has stopped all international travel, and lots of other discretionary. Delloite is similar and im sure many other organisations are the same. Domestic travel no doubt will be impacted.
 
User avatar
qf789
Moderator
Topic Author
Posts: 11166
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:42 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:24 am

Qantas to cut more international capacity including CTS, KIX, NRT/HND, HKG and AKL are the latest cuts though unclear by how much yet

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN20T02A
Forum Moderator
 
User avatar
qf789
Moderator
Topic Author
Posts: 11166
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:42 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:18 am

More on QF changes

Will take effect next week through to end of March, appears to be on selected dates only

MEL-AKL, 5 flights cancelled
SYD-CTS, 5 flights cancelled
SYD-HKG, 8 flights cancelled
MEL-NRT, BNE-NRT and SYD-KIX also see flights cancelled but no mention of how many

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/busine ... 561ae380a9
Forum Moderator
 
User avatar
qf789
Moderator
Topic Author
Posts: 11166
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:42 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:24 pm

QF's SYD-CTS will now end of 16 Mar 20 instead of 28 Mar 20

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... djustment/

QF's SYD-YVR seasonal service will run from 12 Dec 20 to 27 Feb 21, 3 weekly

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-changes/
Forum Moderator
 
User avatar
qf789
Moderator
Topic Author
Posts: 11166
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:42 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:57 pm

Does anyone know what's wrong with ZND, its been at LHR for nearly a couple days now

OQA is out of refurbs and has positioned DRS-LHR
Forum Moderator
 
Flyerqf
Posts: 78
Joined: Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:57 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:22 pm

qf789 wrote:
Does anyone know what's wrong with ZND, its been at LHR for nearly a couple days now

OQA is out of refurbs and has positioned DRS-LHR


OQA hasn’t been refurbed. Only maintenance.
 
RainerBoeing777
Posts: 568
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:43 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:40 pm

qf789 wrote:
QF's SYD-CTS will now end of 16 Mar 20 instead of 28 Mar 20

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... djustment/

QF's SYD-YVR seasonal service will run from 12 Dec 20 to 27 Feb 21, 3 weekly

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-changes/


I am quite happy that Qantas will change the Boeing 747 to 787 in YVR is the ideal aircraft for this route and can be extended during the high season, now only JNB and HND with Boeing 747 service remain
CX - JL - LH - KE - KL - SQ - QR - QF - TG - UA
 
RainerBoeing777
Posts: 568
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:43 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:57 pm

Qantas operations of Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner look like this:
MEL-PER-LHR Daily (2)
MEL-LAX/SFO 2w/4w (2)
BNE-LAX-JFK Daily (2)
BNE-ORD/SFO 4w/3w (2)
SYD-SCL/SFO Daily both (3)
SYD-YVR 3w (1)

Qantas need 12 of 14 Boeing 787 in its operations, with low demand for Asia possibly the A380 will go to JNB, and in future Qantas will operate (NRT + HND)
CX - JL - LH - KE - KL - SQ - QR - QF - TG - UA
 
zkncj
Posts: 3915
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:57 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:06 am

RainerBoeing777 wrote:
Qantas operations of Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner look like this:
MEL-PER-LHR Daily (2)
MEL-LAX/SFO 2w/4w (2)
BNE-LAX-JFK Daily (2)
BNE-ORD/SFO 4w/3w (2)
SYD-SCL/SFO Daily both (3)
SYD-YVR 3w (1)

Qantas need 12 of 14 Boeing 787 in its operations, with low demand for Asia possibly the A380 will go to JNB, and in future Qantas will operate (NRT + HND)


Is Qantas I mime to the 787 Rolls Royce issues? Or is it just an matter of time before there 789s rackup the hours and required early engine swap outs?
 
moa999
Posts: 980
Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:37 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:38 am

Qantas has GE engines on both the JQ and QF 787s
 
YYZORD
Posts: 521
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:26 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:20 am

QF should just make YVR year round, AC needs some competition along w WS codesharing with QF!
 
User avatar
SCFlyer
Posts: 633
Joined: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:14 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:54 am

YYZORD wrote:
QF should just make YVR year round, AC needs some competition along w WS codesharing with QF!


A route "requiring competition" doesn't always mean its 'viable' for the airline to fly it "year round". Every airline has it's own circumstances, such as financial purposes or routes simply prioritised higher (aka higher yielding routes).

In addition, a full plane does not equal profit in the airline industry.
 
zkncj
Posts: 3915
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:57 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:01 am

YYZORD wrote:
QF should just make YVR year round, AC needs some competition along w WS codesharing with QF!


That or WS taking up YVR-SYD (maybe in the opposite seasons to QF) with an QF code share.
 
User avatar
SCFlyer
Posts: 633
Joined: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:14 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:11 am

zkncj wrote:
YYZORD wrote:
QF should just make YVR year round, AC needs some competition along w WS codesharing with QF!


That or WS taking up YVR-SYD (maybe in the opposite seasons to QF) with an QF code share.


That could work if WS/QF applies for a JV on the route.
It's a better option than the limited (and lackluster) AC/VA code-share.
 
YYZORD
Posts: 521
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:26 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:27 am

It doesn't make sense that YVR-SYD is profitable for AC year round but for QF with a smaller aircraft like the 787, its not profitable for them.

SCFlyer wrote:
YYZORD wrote:
QF should just make YVR year round, AC needs some competition along w WS codesharing with QF!


A route "requiring competition" doesn't always mean its 'viable' for the airline to fly it "year round". Every airline has it's own circumstances, such as financial purposes or routes simply prioritised higher (aka higher yielding routes).

In addition, a full plane does not equal profit in the airline industry.
 
redroo
Posts: 584
Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:28 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:39 am

They’re aren’t a 777 load of passengers going to YVR every day from sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne. AC is connecting then from YVR across their network.

As much as I’d like to see QF do daily from sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane to Canada there just aren’t the passengers on the route to support two flights from each carrier. Canada is a popular destination for Aussies but it’s no USA. And as for Inbound Canada is a fraction of the market that the USA is.

Sometimes there are only enough passengers on a route for a single carrier to make money. Australia (and Canada for that matter) are full of thin routes that only support QF or AC. Anything regional in Oz is marginal at the best of times.
 
SYDSpotter
Posts: 899
Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:10 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:40 am

YYZORD wrote:
It doesn't make sense that YVR-SYD is profitable for AC year round but for QF with a smaller aircraft like the 787, its not profitable for them.


Who say's its not profitable for QF, its probably not as profitable for them as QF's other routes. QF only have a limited number of aircraft so it means deploying them to maximise profit.
319_320_321_332_333_359_388 / 734_737_738_743_744_762_763_772_773_77W_788_789
 
ben175
Posts: 809
Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:44 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:45 am

Flew a VA 738 (downgraded from a 330 only a few days before) on PER-MEL today and was just beyond shocked at how poor the product is compared to QF these days. No cheese & biscuits, no dessert - just a flavourless "meal" that honestly resembled baby food and tasted horrible. Only one drinks run the whole flight (with the meal). Wifi didn't work either, despite them saying it was. Cost cutting is becoming hugely evident yet they're still charging fares close to QF on this route.
 
User avatar
eta unknown
Posts: 2877
Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2001 5:03 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:55 pm

Re AC/QF. Let's put it this way:
a) Canada point of sale is greater than Australia, so advantage AC.
b) a sizeable chunk of AC pax has final destination in USA- these are the same pax QF transports via LAX/SFO/DFW, thus QF's YVR pax are only destined for Canada with the WJ codeshare and as said above, the Canadian market is small thus why QF only serves YVR in AU peak season.
c) there is an NZ AKL-YVR service that survives on AU transit traffic- I have no idea how it does relative to LAX/SFO/IAH.
 
User avatar
CraigAnderson
Posts: 601
Joined: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:28 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:20 am

With LH grounding its A380s and reports that BA is considering similar, any thoughts on if QF will also need to take similar measures?
 
smi0006
Posts: 2587
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:45 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:41 am

CraigAnderson wrote:
With LH grounding its A380s and reports that BA is considering similar, any thoughts on if QF will also need to take similar measures?


From what I’m hearing traffic to the states was holding up, not sure if this has changed. LHR traffic via SIN may struggle, not sure how they can downguage the service at all.
 
User avatar
EK413
Posts: 5575
Joined: Sat Nov 29, 2003 3:11 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:30 am

smi0006 wrote:
CraigAnderson wrote:
With LH grounding its A380s and reports that BA is considering similar, any thoughts on if QF will also need to take similar measures?


From what I’m hearing traffic to the states was holding up, not sure if this has changed. LHR traffic via SIN may struggle, not sure how they can downguage the service at all.

QF really don’t have any options, perhaps go from daily to 6 weekly if loads aren’t that promising.

OR

Down gauge the B789’s on HKG rotations to A330’s? Even that wouldn’t free up enough frames to redeploy in SYD-SIN-LHR.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We are tonight’s entertainment!
 
Williamsb747
Posts: 143
Joined: Fri May 17, 2019 9:14 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:40 pm

smi0006 wrote:
CraigAnderson wrote:
With LH grounding its A380s and reports that BA is considering similar, any thoughts on if QF will also need to take similar measures?


From what I’m hearing traffic to the states was holding up, not sure if this has changed. LHR traffic via SIN may struggle, not sure how they can downguage the service at all.


I was under the impression that there are rumours going around that QF will switch SIN to DXB If traffic falls heavily.

Williams-
B747>A340>A350>B777>MD11>B767>B757>MD88/90>B787>A380>A330>A220>A320>B737.
CPT JNB
 
NTLDaz
Posts: 475
Joined: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:56 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:53 pm

Article in the SMH this morning that Qantas will ground half it's A380 fleet.
 
Whatsaptudo
Posts: 111
Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:54 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:32 pm

Internal comms indicate they are grounding 10 until September.

And it’s confirmed the QF1/2 will go through Perth.
 
getluv
Posts: 594
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:11 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:59 pm

QF Group Coronavirus Update

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... -response/

Notable reductions until Mid-September
- 8 A380s Grounded until September
- SYD-PER-LHR to replace SYD-SIN-LHR from 20 April with B787
- BNE-ORD launch delayed til September
- BNE-SFO suspended effective 18 April
- MEL-SFO suspended effective 18 April
- SYD-HND downguaged from 30 March
- SYD-DFW - MEL-LAX downgauged to B787s
- SYD-SCL to remain B747 until September.
- Reductions to HKG and Shanghai suspension to continue

JQ
- BKK suspended from 1 May
- reduce flights to Vietnam from 1 May
- BNE-DPS slight reduction from 1 May
- Flights to Japan reduced by 50%

AJ will take no pay

Capacity Reductions when compared to 2019:
31% to Asia
19% to North America
17% to Europe
10% to NZ
5% Domestically (Increased from 3%)
Last edited by getluv on Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:14 pm, edited 2 times in total.
I'm that bad type.
 
redroo
Posts: 584
Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:28 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:12 pm

The SYD LHR switch is interesting.
 
tullamarine
Posts: 2591
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 1999 1:14 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:27 pm

That is a massive downgrade in capacity. The International business must now be losing serious money. Melbourne radio published a seat map for tomorrow's scheduled MEL-NRT flight with only 16 seats allocated.

I flew to CNS over the weekend and flights there (QF) and back (VA) were both only about 1/3 full. Cairns itself is largely deserted with no Asian tourists.
717, 721/2, 732/3/4/5/7/8/9, 742/3/4, 752/3, 762/3, 772/E/W, 788/9, 300,310, 319,320/1, 332/3, 359, 388, DC9, DC10, F28, F100, 142,143, E75/90, CR2, D82/3/4, SF3, ATR
 
smi0006
Posts: 2587
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:45 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:41 pm

Incredible- lucky QF have the 789 to manage the reductions. Going to be a blood bath, wonder how long it will take them to resume a lot of that capacity.

Wonder what VAs plan is domestically, Tasman and Japan....

Wonder what we’ll see the inbound international carriers do?
 
getluv
Posts: 594
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:11 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:41 pm

tullamarine wrote:
That is a massive downgrade in capacity. The International business must now be losing serious money. Melbourne radio published a seat map for tomorrow's scheduled MEL-NRT flight with only 16 seats allocated.

I flew to CNS over the weekend and flights there (QF) and back (VA) were both only about 1/3 full. Cairns itself is largely deserted with no Asian tourists.


I would take those seat allocation maps with a grain of salt. Sometimes this reflects the amount of passengers who have selected a seat or seats that are “blocked off”.

From what I can see, the flight is a lot more full.
I'm that bad type.
 
A350OZ
Posts: 174
Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:20 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:42 pm

getluv wrote:
QF Group Coronavirus Update

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... -response/

Notable reductions until Mid-September
- 8 A380s Grounded until September
- SYD-PER-LHR to replace SYD-SIN-LHR from 20 April with B787
- BNE-ORD launch delayed til September
- BNE-SFO suspended effective 18 April
- MEL-SFO suspended effective 18 April
- SYD-HND downguaged from 30 March
- SYD-DFW - MEL-LAX downgauged to B787s
- SYD-SCL to remain B747 until September.
- Reductions to HKG and Shanghai suspension to continue

JQ
- BKK suspended from 1 May
- reduce flights to Vietnam from 1 May
- BNE-DPS slight reduction from 1 May
- Flights to Japan reduced by 50%

AJ will take no pay

Capacity Reductions when compared to 2019:
31% to Asia
19% to North America
17% to Europe
10% to NZ
5% Domestically (Increased from 3%)


Very interesting, especially to change of QF1/2 via PER. Our company introduced a wide-ranging travel ban (essential only, which is probably 10-20% of all travel prior to the ban), but for those still travelling between EU and AU it insists on going via PER rather than via Asia. Even those with confirmed tickets and immediate travel within a few days had to change to QF9/10. So clearly QF is seeing something similar across other customers.
 
redroo
Posts: 584
Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:28 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:47 pm

Is virgin still ploughing ahead with HND?
 
User avatar
SCFlyer
Posts: 633
Joined: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:14 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:52 pm

redroo wrote:
Is virgin still ploughing ahead with HND?


IIRC, I did read an article that may have been posted through here where there is a worldwide call for airports/aviation authorities worldwide to relax the "Use It or Lose It" rule for slots.

If the "slot relaxing" suggestions are followed, my guess is that VA would take advantage of that to either delay their HND launch or launch HND at reduced frequencies.
 
tullamarine
Posts: 2591
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 1999 1:14 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:06 pm

Qantas' Chicago services are doomed. Last time they planned introducing Chicago it was foiled by 9/11 and now it is Coronavirus.
717, 721/2, 732/3/4/5/7/8/9, 742/3/4, 752/3, 762/3, 772/E/W, 788/9, 300,310, 319,320/1, 332/3, 359, 388, DC9, DC10, F28, F100, 142,143, E75/90, CR2, D82/3/4, SF3, ATR
 
User avatar
qf2220
Posts: 1986
Joined: Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:16 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:11 pm

Where is QF going to park the A380s? And any others that need parking for a few months? Can ASP handle them?
 
346fetish
Posts: 54
Joined: Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:00 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:39 pm

redroo wrote:
Is virgin still ploughing ahead with HND?


Japan-AUS travel has been hit hard. I don't think VA has the luxury of running empty flights atm. My guess is they will postpone the launch.
"BA have got waterfalls in their head office. The only time we have waterfalls in the Ryanair office is when the toilet leaks."
 
User avatar
CraigAnderson
Posts: 601
Joined: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:28 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:42 pm

"Qantas looks to delay Airbus A350 purchase for Project Sunrise"

Alan Joyce: "We would rather wait for the coronavirus issue to be out of the way before we put a firm aircraft order in for the A350."

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... ct-sunrise
 
jrfspa320
Posts: 600
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:18 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:49 pm

qf2220 wrote:
Where is QF going to park the A380s? And any others that need parking for a few months? Can ASP handle them?


Nope. Could potentially be distributed around the country? SYD/MEL/PER/BNE.
 
Fuling
Posts: 290
Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:41 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:56 pm

jrfspa320 wrote:
qf2220 wrote:
Where is QF going to park the A380s? And any others that need parking for a few months? Can ASP handle them?


Nope. Could potentially be distributed around the country? SYD/MEL/PER/BNE.


A lot easier said than done, but could a few extra A380 be pushed through DRS and AUH?
 
User avatar
RyanairGuru
Posts: 8472
Joined: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:59 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:19 am

jrfspa320 wrote:
qf2220 wrote:
Where is QF going to park the A380s? And any others that need parking for a few months? Can ASP handle them?


Nope. Could potentially be distributed around the country? SYD/MEL/PER/BNE.


IMHO it's more likely they get sent to a boneyard in California or Arizona. Australian airports, especially SYD and BNE, aren't really suitable for long-term storage due to the salty, humid(ish) sea air.
Worked Hard, Flew Right
 
User avatar
angusjt
Posts: 251
Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2016 4:08 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:24 am

Will these cuts have any effect on the 747 retirement date?
 
ArtV
Posts: 152
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2016 2:29 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:29 am

qf2220 wrote:
Where is QF going to park the A380s? And any others that need parking for a few months? Can ASP handle them?


Potential job for AVV
 
jrfspa320
Posts: 600
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:18 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:44 am

ArtV wrote:
qf2220 wrote:
Where is QF going to park the A380s? And any others that need parking for a few months? Can ASP handle them?


Potential job for AVV


Maybe...not a lot of apron space at AVV. Which is a issue across the country, particularly if we see 737s getting parked too.

I hope i'm wrong but we could be seeing domestic travel curtailed at unprecedented levels
 
moa999
Posts: 980
Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:37 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:49 am

jrfspa320 wrote:
I hope i'm wrong but we could be seeing domestic travel curtailed at unprecedented levels


Many big corporates effectively banning international travel and severely curtailing domestic
 
tullamarine
Posts: 2591
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 1999 1:14 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:01 am

angusjt wrote:
Will these cuts have any effect on the 747 retirement date?

It is now being reported that AJ has stated that refurbs on A380s will continue but 747 retirement may be brought forward.
717, 721/2, 732/3/4/5/7/8/9, 742/3/4, 752/3, 762/3, 772/E/W, 788/9, 300,310, 319,320/1, 332/3, 359, 388, DC9, DC10, F28, F100, 142,143, E75/90, CR2, D82/3/4, SF3, ATR
 
Captdasbomb
Posts: 172
Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:08 am

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:06 am

angusjt wrote:
Will these cuts have any effect on the 747 retirement date?


Highly likely. A330s have to be reshuffled unless they get the next batch of 787s delivered early. Can’t see them flying 1/2 empty 4 engine guzzlers
 
User avatar
EK413
Posts: 5575
Joined: Sat Nov 29, 2003 3:11 pm

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:07 am

EK413 wrote:
smi0006 wrote:
CraigAnderson wrote:
With LH grounding its A380s and reports that BA is considering similar, any thoughts on if QF will also need to take similar measures?


From what I’m hearing traffic to the states was holding up, not sure if this has changed. LHR traffic via SIN may struggle, not sure how they can downguage the service at all.


QF really don’t have any options, perhaps go from daily to 6 weekly if loads aren’t that promising.

OR

Down gauge the B789’s on HKG rotations to A330’s? Even that wouldn’t free up enough frames to redeploy in SYD-SIN-LHR.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

getluv wrote:
QF Group Coronavirus Update

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... -response/

Notable reductions until Mid-September
- 8 A380s Grounded until September
- SYD-PER-LHR to replace SYD-SIN-LHR from 20 April with B787
- BNE-ORD launch delayed til September
- BNE-SFO suspended effective 18 April
- MEL-SFO suspended effective 18 April
- SYD-HND downguaged from 30 March
- SYD-DFW - MEL-LAX downgauged to B787s
- SYD-SCL to remain B747 until September.
- Reductions to HKG and Shanghai suspension to continue

JQ
- BKK suspended from 1 May
- reduce flights to Vietnam from 1 May
- BNE-DPS slight reduction from 1 May
- Flights to Japan reduced by 50%

AJ will take no pay

Capacity Reductions when compared to 2019:
31% to Asia
19% to North America
17% to Europe
10% to NZ
5% Domestically (Increased from 3%)


When I said QF1/2 down gauge from A380 to B789 I didn’t realise it’ll happen and top it off going via PER. Who knows, if this becomes the norm for the QF1/2 service and QF redirect their connecting services via PER.

Have QF been granted permission by PAPL to operate the additional LHR service service from T3/4.?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We are tonight’s entertainment!
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • 20

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos