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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:17 am
by tullamarine
RyanairGuru wrote:
EK413 wrote:
tullamarine wrote:
As PS said during his media conference today, if this drags on there will be few, if any, airlines around the world that will survive without government help.

I know this was mentioned in the last thread, with VA dealing with their own financial challenges ahead what are the chances of Rex being absorbed by QF? The impact collapse of Rex would have on the regional market is unbearable.


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If this drags on much longer, let alone for six months as intimated by the PM today, QF won't be in a position to be buying anyone anytime soon either.

Rex will be bailed out by the federal government, you are correct that they are too important to regional markets for them to go under.

Correrct QF will also be in a severely capital constrained position. If anything, Rex or something closely resembling it will be a semi-nationalised entity whilst it reorganises and hopefully the government can sell it off in years to come.

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:22 am
by SenFinn
Rex will be bailed out in some form as the National Party (and all political parties for that matter) will never allow communities to be cut off, they would send in the RAAF before they isolated rural Australia that way. Rex is rather well connected to the National Party with former federal Transport Minister John Sharp as Deputy Chair of the Board.

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:31 am
by zkncj
QuayWeeAir wrote:
Virgin Australia Suspending All International Flights

https://newsroom.virginaustralia.com/re ... e-covid-19

Key points:

* Suspension of all international flying from 30 March to 14 June 2020

* Group domestic capacity reduction of 50 per cent until 14 June 2020

* Temporary grounding of the equivalent of 53 aircraft from the Group’s fleet

* Dedicated customer care hub for impacted guests at virginaustralia.com


Should VA be offering full refunds to passengers instead of an credit? e.g. there is now way for an New Zealand based passenger to use there credit for at-least the next 4 months, VA has completely pulled there services from New Zealand so we have no choice to not travel on them, surely that should be an instant refund.

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:42 am
by VapourTrails
RyanairGuru wrote:
Qantas at least aren't allowing you to rebook online if your flight has been cancelled and you aren't happy with the reaccommodation option provided.


Hi, I have a question about a Domestic booking and I can move it to another forum if appropriate, but may get a quicker answer and resolution here. I got that email from QF today requesting if those with bookings before 31 May would like to cancel and retain the full value of their booking with a credit they should do so now. I assume this is to assist in reducing demand on the network. I choose not to cancel my booking for Easter, and just wait it out. I won’t lose my fare will I if they cancel on me days out from my trip? I am flexible with dates and times to be moved about. The email was a bit ambiguous, in that I think it was persuading pax to take their advice? Cancel or lose it? Confused. :boxedin:

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:20 am
by BAeRJ100
VapourTrails wrote:
RyanairGuru wrote:
Qantas at least aren't allowing you to rebook online if your flight has been cancelled and you aren't happy with the reaccommodation option provided.


Hi, I have a question about a Domestic booking and I can move it to another forum if appropriate, but may get a quicker answer and resolution here. I got that email from QF today requesting if those with bookings before 31 May would like to cancel and retain the full value of their booking with a credit they should do so now. I assume this is to assist in reducing demand on the network. I choose not to cancel my booking for Easter, and just wait it out. I won’t lose my fare will I if they cancel on me days out from my trip? I am flexible with dates and times to be moved about. The email was a bit ambiguous, in that I think it was persuading pax to take their advice? Cancel or lose it? Confused. :boxedin:


No, you won't just lose your fare. Usually they will try to re-accommodate you on another flight (sometimes even JQ if there is a comparable flight), and if not you can get a refund.

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:14 am
by IndianicWorld
I was over at MEL today and saw a Xiamen Air 787 at the terminal. When did they restart ops?

Hadn’t expected them back, but things must be getting harder with the 14 day self isolation and the calls for no one to travel outside of Australia at this stage.

Still wondering how numerous carriers are filling seats though, especially Royal Brunei which doesn’t exactly perform amazingly at the best of times.

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:17 am
by Pcoder
I'm a QF platinum and they have just sent an email, that they will be extending my status for another year. Good move from Qantas

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:37 am
by Qantas737
Pcoder wrote:
I'm a QF platinum and they have just sent an email, that they will be extending my status for another year. Good move from Qantas


Here's hoping that VA follows suit :)

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:48 am
by RyanairGuru
BAeRJ100 wrote:
VapourTrails wrote:
RyanairGuru wrote:
Qantas at least aren't allowing you to rebook online if your flight has been cancelled and you aren't happy with the reaccommodation option provided.


Hi, I have a question about a Domestic booking and I can move it to another forum if appropriate, but may get a quicker answer and resolution here. I got that email from QF today requesting if those with bookings before 31 May would like to cancel and retain the full value of their booking with a credit they should do so now. I assume this is to assist in reducing demand on the network. I choose not to cancel my booking for Easter, and just wait it out. I won’t lose my fare will I if they cancel on me days out from my trip? I am flexible with dates and times to be moved about. The email was a bit ambiguous, in that I think it was persuading pax to take their advice? Cancel or lose it? Confused. :boxedin:


No, you won't just lose your fare. Usually they will try to re-accommodate you on another flight (sometimes even JQ if there is a comparable flight), and if not you can get a refund.


Correct. If they cancel on you it is on them to get you to your destination, via an alternative routing if necessary (and/or carrier depending on the specific circumstances). If they are unable to reaccomadate your or the option is unsuitable then you can elect for a full refund. In these situations the standard Qantas schedule change policy would apply, which can be found online (note that it's aimed at travel agents but the information is still relevant for passengers): https://www.qantas.com/agencyconnect/au ... licy-.html

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:41 pm
by 747m8te
IndianicWorld wrote:
I was over at MEL today and saw a Xiamen Air 787 at the terminal. When did they restart ops?

Hadn’t expected them back, but things must be getting harder with the 14 day self isolation and the calls for no one to travel outside of Australia at this stage.

Still wondering how numerous carriers are filling seats though, especially Royal Brunei which doesn’t exactly perform amazingly at the best of times.


You will probably find that many international flights this week will be quite busy with passengers scrambling for flights to get back to their home countries due to border closures and travel restrictions (inbound and outbound) ...but then next week and in the coming weeks demand will drop off a cliff...expect to see many cancelled flights/suspended routes from next week.

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:51 pm
by ben175
Has QF's website been updated to reflect the drastic cuts yet? I can still book numerous routes (PER-SIN, SYD-CGK, MEL-LAX for example) all the way up until late May. PER-MEL is still showing 7 daily flights most days, many on A330's.

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:38 pm
by mrkerr7474
ben175 wrote:
Has QF's website been updated to reflect the drastic cuts yet? I can still book numerous routes (PER-SIN, SYD-CGK, MEL-LAX for example) all the way up until late May. PER-MEL is still showing 7 daily flights most days, many on A330's.


I don't think they have revised their schedule yet, as of Tuesday they said they're working through the routes and frequencies which will be released in the coming days.

I too am waiting to see what this will look like going forward

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:04 pm
by qf789
I see airAsia X has finally come their senses and started canceling flights

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:12 pm
by qf789
Thai Airways changes

BNE and PER down ti 3 weekly
MEL down to 12 weekly
SYD down ti 5 weekly, 77W replaces 744

Effective 29 March

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-18mar20/

Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:18 pm
by EK413
ben175 wrote:
Has QF's website been updated to reflect the drastic cuts yet? I can still book numerous routes (PER-SIN, SYD-CGK, MEL-LAX for example) all the way up until late May. PER-MEL is still showing 7 daily flights most days, many on A330's.

As straight forward it may seem the passenger bookings need to be saved & moved onto a dummy booking / alternative flight / backed up prior to the cancellation button being triggered. Time consuming process especially the volume of flights being cancelled.

I’d say CGK in particular hasn’t been cancelled as of yet because the 80-20 slot use rule applies. Do we know if a temporary suspension of the rule has been approved? With VA BNEHND indefinitely suspended / delayed I’d say so?


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:49 pm
by eamondzhang
IndianicWorld wrote:
I was over at MEL today and saw a Xiamen Air 787 at the terminal. When did they restart ops?

Hadn’t expected them back, but things must be getting harder with the 14 day self isolation and the calls for no one to travel outside of Australia at this stage.

Still wondering how numerous carriers are filling seats though, especially Royal Brunei which doesn’t exactly perform amazingly at the best of times.

They're coming in empty to bring a full plane load's people home, or so I've been told.

They wont fly for too long before they pull out again until the things stabilize - think they only intended to fly two weeks or so.

Michael

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:40 pm
by Goodbye
Thai Air Asia X pulling out of BNE :crying:

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:53 pm
by getluv
QF/JQ Route-by-route cuts announced

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... k-changes/

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... work-cuts/

-All international flights cancelled.

- 2/3rds of QF workforce to be stood down until end of May.

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:24 pm
by Chipmunk1973
Qantas737 wrote:
Pcoder wrote:
I'm a QF platinum and they have just sent an email, that they will be extending my status for another year. Good move from Qantas


Here's hoping that VA follows suit :)


Apparently I’m still a Velocity member even though I haven’t flown VA in 10+ years. Still getting their emails though. They seem to be offering bonus status credits.

https://imgur.com/BiL2azU

Rgds,
C1973

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:36 pm
by aerokiwi
getluv wrote:
QF/JQ Route-by-route cuts announced

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... k-changes/

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... work-cuts/

-All international flights cancelled.

- 2/3rds of QF workforce to be stood down until end of May.


Wow, 2/3rds! That's devastating. Good luck everyone.

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:45 pm
by smi0006
aerokiwi wrote:
getluv wrote:
QF/JQ Route-by-route cuts announced

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... k-changes/

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... work-cuts/

-All international flights cancelled.

- 2/3rds of QF workforce to be stood down until end of May.


Wow, 2/3rds! That's devastating. Good luck everyone.


I wonder how long the international will keep flying here?

I note they are in discussions with the government on key trade routes? Maybe a lifeline for SIN/AKL/LAX?

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:53 pm
by fkfnz
zkncj wrote:
QuayWeeAir wrote:
Virgin Australia Suspending All International Flights

https://newsroom.virginaustralia.com/re ... e-covid-19

Key points:

* Suspension of all international flying from 30 March to 14 June 2020

* Group domestic capacity reduction of 50 per cent until 14 June 2020

* Temporary grounding of the equivalent of 53 aircraft from the Group’s fleet

* Dedicated customer care hub for impacted guests at virginaustralia.com


Should VA be offering full refunds to passengers instead of an credit? e.g. there is now way for an New Zealand based passenger to use there credit for at-least the next 4 months, VA has completely pulled there services from New Zealand so we have no choice to not travel on them, surely that should be an instant refund.



I'm interested to know this too. Was booked DUD-BNE-DUD next month on VA, now it's been suspended/cancelled and there's no alternative on VA if I still wanted to go. Surely there should be a refund offered so I could theoretically buy a ticket on NZ? I've seen people on social media talking about chargebacks on their credit card so that may be an option to pursue?

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:07 pm
by tullamarine
smi0006 wrote:
aerokiwi wrote:
getluv wrote:
QF/JQ Route-by-route cuts announced

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... k-changes/

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... work-cuts/

-All international flights cancelled.

- 2/3rds of QF workforce to be stood down until end of May.


Wow, 2/3rds! That's devastating. Good luck everyone.


I wonder how long the international will keep flying here?

I note they are in discussions with the government on key trade routes? Maybe a lifeline for SIN/AKL/LAX?

I assume this would be on the basis of government subsidising the continued operation of the routes which is probably unlikely. Given the self-isolation requirements at either end, I would doubt there would be much demand once Australians have returned home which is why VA and QF are operating until the end of the month. I would think these routes will close at the end of the month; there may be an opportunity for one or two flights a week to Singapore and Auckland but you wouldn't be making any firm plans.

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:17 pm
by n729pa
Pcoder wrote:
I'm a QF platinum and they have just sent an email, that they will be extending my status for another year. Good move from Qantas


Same here I agree, very positive and I must say much appreciated. I'm got two bookings due in May and August, which I'll have rearrange but this loyalty to me as FF will be repaid just as soon as I can. 2/3 of the staff being stood down that's dreadful news whilst i fear we are not over the worst of this yet, I wish everyone well and hope that before too long things will start to improve again for all concerned.

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:18 pm
by EK413
Lost for words this morning.

All my colleagues in the industry impacted by today’s announcement in my thoughts and prayers. We are all on the same boat and hope to pull through this together.

With so many aircraft expected to be parked over the coming days and weeks would BNE new runway and taxiways be an alternative to park grounded aircraft considering it’s not active at this present moment.

Another measure which I hope the government would enforce to protect our carriers is ensure airports across all states and capital cities to provide airlines a lowered parking fee during these tough times.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:45 pm
by SCFlyer
Although the QF group has followed VA into suspending their international network just moments ago. I wonder if the decision on VA's end allows the opportunity for PS to prune their largely unprofitable International Network and to renegotiate contracts/JVs/etc, considering some of them expire during the 2021/2022 period. The A330s will undoubtedly be returned to lessors eventually, whereas the 77Ws are another matter (e.g 'owned').

I understand some of the Pacific Island services are heavily subsidised by government contracts, etc, despite the low loads on some of those flights. Surely it would give PS some time to renegotiate those, e.g moving cargo elsewhere where permitted/there is space. This would free up those aircraft for higher yielding flying elsewhere.

As far as most is aware, the 5th freedom flying on VA ex-AKL won't be returning and has already been announced as being axed.
As for the remainder of the Trans-Tasman/NZ flying, I can see most (if not all) of Trans-Tasman on VA not returning once the COVID-19 pandemic dies down. I can see AKL being the only port surviving if (most) Trans-Tasman gets the axe while International Flying is in hibernation.

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:19 am
by QF742
This is truly devastating and the impacts of COVID-19 are just so far reaching. To anyone in the industry on here, I hope things turn around quickly for you and that you seek support when needed during this difficult time. As someone less directly affected, I am doing all I can to continue to support local businesses and will be the first to book flights when safe to do so to ensure the airlines and their staff can flourish once again!

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:30 am
by angusjt
Joyce made the right move, as devastating as it is to see the airline come to its knees, there certainly will be a rebound when this is all over.

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:05 am
by EK413
Air Canada confirmed suspending BNE & SYD.

https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2020-03-18-Air-Canada-Provides-Update-on-Ongoing-COVID-19-Response


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:16 am
by jman
angusjt wrote:
Joyce made the right move, as devastating as it is to see the airline come to its knees, there certainly will be a rebound when this is all over.


are all the executives and everyone else at HQ earning all the big bucks going to be stood down or not receive any pay at all (including previous bonuses and shares and the like not yet paid)? i think not

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:44 am
by An767
jman wrote:
angusjt wrote:
Joyce made the right move, as devastating as it is to see the airline come to its knees, there certainly will be a rebound when this is all over.


are all the executives and everyone else at HQ earning all the big bucks going to be stood down or not receive any pay at all (including previous bonuses and shares and the like not yet paid)? i think not

I think you will find AJ and all directors are not taking salary for rest of financial year.

AN767

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:22 am
by redroo
jman wrote:
angusjt wrote:
Joyce made the right move, as devastating as it is to see the airline come to its knees, there certainly will be a rebound when this is all over.


are all the executives and everyone else at HQ earning all the big bucks going to be stood down or not receive any pay at all (including previous bonuses and shares and the like not yet paid)? i think not


I think you’ll find there is no chance of any performance related pay this year.

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:24 am
by moa999
And for a number of years given the current share price.

While I don't exactly see AJ struggling he's also paid a boatload of tax on shares vested at $7 that are now worth a lot less

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:31 am
by anstar
redroo wrote:
jman wrote:
angusjt wrote:
Joyce made the right move, as devastating as it is to see the airline come to its knees, there certainly will be a rebound when this is all over.


are all the executives and everyone else at HQ earning all the big bucks going to be stood down or not receive any pay at all (including previous bonuses and shares and the like not yet paid)? i think not


I think you’ll find there is no chance of any performance related pay this year.


They said no bonuses for staff weeks ago

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:38 am
by EK413
Before we get on a rant and defensive perhaps ask the staff being heard ransom to sign off their EBAs just so they can receive their bonuses which is rightfully theirs and not to mention executives and managers received theirs.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:11 am
by myki
jman wrote:
They said no bonuses for staff weeks ago

I would be surprised if any airline around the world pays a bonus anytime soon

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:05 am
by EK413
EK413 wrote:
Before we get on a rant and defensive perhaps ask the staff being heard ransom to sign off their EBAs just so they can receive their bonuses which is rightfully theirs and not to mention executives and managers received theirs.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:36 am
by jman
An767 wrote:
jman wrote:
angusjt wrote:
Joyce made the right move, as devastating as it is to see the airline come to its knees, there certainly will be a rebound when this is all over.


are all the executives and everyone else at HQ earning all the big bucks going to be stood down or not receive any pay at all (including previous bonuses and shares and the like not yet paid)? i think not

I think you will find AJ and all directors are not taking salary for rest of financial year.

AN767


The financial year is nearly over. The staff getting stood down and not getting money will extend into the new financial year. July 1st he will start get millions again. and bonuses aren't a part of salary, they are in addition to salary. Bonuses from before now will still be eligible for him, thats how he makes almost 30 million a year

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:44 am
by Flyingsottsman
With Qantas and Virgan now shutting down their international services, are all the Chinese airlines still flying into Australia, have not heard much on their flights or if they they have cut them yet, whats' CA, ME, CZ and the HNA group of airlines doing with their Australian services?

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:48 am
by Flyingsottsman
How much room has Tullamarine got to park aircraft?

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:16 am
by VirginFlyer
New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announcing now: New Zealand borders closing from 11:59pm tonight except to New Zealand citizens and residents returning. This will not apply to passengers in the air currently inbound, but no non-residents will be able to board for an arrival after 11:59pm. Australia expected to announce similar measures imminently.

V/F

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:20 am
by mrkerr7474
Just in response to QF and the flexibility they are offering going forward, I have an existing booking for late April which obviously will be cancelled due to no international flights going until end of May, I don't want to cancel and rebook at a later time, I simply just want to change my dates to the end of the year (if I have to change again closer to the time because the virus is still impacting everything then I will).

My question is, no where are they offering the ability to waive the change fee on existing bookings as I've just tried to look at different new dates (July, September, November and December) and each time I still have the change fee associated with it. Surely they are helping waive the change fee for existing bookings that will be cancelled before May but customers simply just want to change dates and not have to cancel?

Anyone got any more information on this?

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:21 am
by brucetiki
VirginFlyer wrote:
New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announcing now: New Zealand borders closing from 11:59pm tonight except to New Zealand citizens and residents returning. This will not apply to passengers in the air currently inbound, but no non-residents will be able to board for an arrival after 11:59pm. Australia expected to announce similar measures imminently.

V/F


And we have - from 9:00pm tomorrow night

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-19/ ... s/12068750

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:30 am
by getluv
jman wrote:
An767 wrote:
jman wrote:

are all the executives and everyone else at HQ earning all the big bucks going to be stood down or not receive any pay at all (including previous bonuses and shares and the like not yet paid)? i think not

I think you will find AJ and all directors are not taking salary for rest of financial year.

AN767


The financial year is nearly over. The staff getting stood down and not getting money will extend into the new financial year. July 1st he will start get millions again. and bonuses aren't a part of salary, they are in addition to salary. Bonuses from before now will still be eligible for him, thats how he makes almost 30 million a year


Jesus Christ! Stop the grandstanding. It's not constructive and it does not change a thing. People in the travel industry will be lucky to have jobs at all by the end of the month.

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:49 am
by aerokiwi
Yeah I'm not sure how helpful pinging the executive and their salaries is going to be. Also things are pretty fluid and will likely be reviewed a lot before the next financial year.

It is now up to airline leadership to steer their airlines through this mess to even survive and re-employ tens of thousands of staff. That's a huge amount of pressure and workload in the coming months. Then rebuilding when the crisis has passed - they will be simultaneously planning for shutdown and ramp up. I can't even imagine the complexities involved.

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:22 am
by Sparker
jman wrote:
An767 wrote:
jman wrote:

are all the executives and everyone else at HQ earning all the big bucks going to be stood down or not receive any pay at all (including previous bonuses and shares and the like not yet paid)? i think not

I think you will find AJ and all directors are not taking salary for rest of financial year.

AN767


The financial year is nearly over. The staff getting stood down and not getting money will extend into the new financial year. July 1st he will start get millions again. and bonuses aren't a part of salary, they are in addition to salary. Bonuses from before now will still be eligible for him, thats how he makes almost 30 million a year


Qantas have announced that:
- Joyce and Clifford will receive no salary or fees for the rest of the FY
- all other management and Directors will take a 30% pay cut or reduction in fees, and
- all management bonuses will be reduced to zero.

That's for this FY. Why don't we wait and see what happens as we get closer to next FY, before just declaring that they'll do the wrong thing.

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:28 am
by Captdasbomb
So pretty much all the ME flights will be cancelled from tomorrow & Qantas will do the mercy runs to pick up anyone caught in the chaos?

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:45 am
by qf789

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:46 am
by CraigAnderson
Sparker wrote:
Qantas have announced that:
- Joyce and Clifford will receive no salary or fees for the rest of the FY
- all other management and Directors will take a 30% pay cut or reduction in fees, and
- all management bonuses will be reduced to zero.


Today's announcement says that now all senior group management executives and directors will take zero pay to end of FY20, but I would agree that with this only three months away, unless things make a dramatic turnaround, some form of reduced pay should apply into FY21.

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2020

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:48 am
by a36001
getluv wrote:
jman wrote:
An767 wrote:
I think you will find AJ and all directors are not taking salary for rest of financial year.

AN767


The financial year is nearly over. The staff getting stood down and not getting money will extend into the new financial year. July 1st he will start get millions again. and bonuses aren't a part of salary, they are in addition to salary. Bonuses from before now will still be eligible for him, thats how he makes almost 30 million a year


Jesus Christ! Stop the grandstanding. It's not constructive and it does not change a thing. People in the travel industry will be lucky to have jobs at all by the end of the month.


Thank god someone said this! Now is not the time to bash AJ or QF! We the family of crew have just learnt we are a one income family which means a lot of changes! And you have the audacity to spurt out your no doubt union affiliated junk! Mate we don’t need to hear it now! Have some class and pick your times! Idiot!