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Turkish Aviation March 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:30 pm

Hello there Turkish Aviation fans,



I guess it is fair to say that, these coming months will be testing times for civil aviation everywhere in the world.
In a matter of a month, we went from TK suspending mainland China flights, to adding more destinations to its list. In the short term we will see more suspensions, decreased frequencies, maybe even fleet retirements, yet worse, bankruptcies. TK might defer some 787/350 deliveries. MAX, 321NEO issues might matter less.
Let’s see how all airlines will adjust to this new reality.

Let me start things of with few topics:
-So much has happened recently that we forgot that AtlasGlobal is gone.
-Due to Covid19 virus TK dropped Beijing to 4W x 333, HKG 4W x 77W, SIN 7W x 789. CAN, PVG, XIY suspended for now. All Iranian and almost half of Italian flights followed. Who knows what is next. Adjustments are done on very short notices.
-Due to excess capacity; CPT, JNB started receiving 77Ws. TK was supposed to use the 787-9s for S.A. flights this month, see what happens.
-TK was supposed to start Haneda this month. Also to go from 3 to 4 weekly to Xian. Hanoi from 6 to 7W.
-New SAW terminal was to start construction this month.
-TK new 789/359 J seats still remain as a rumor.
-First TK 350 to join TK fleet late March-early April.
-With Pegasus having had two incidents at SAW last month, all eyes will be on them in the coming months. All Turkish operators should pay close attention to improving their safety records.
-TK is getting ready to receive its 10th and 11th 787-9s this month.
-Just to fact check; last year this time, many people in different forums thought 3rd runway at IST would be operational now. Pretty close, but no cigar.
-At the end of March, AnadoluJet was to start many destinations from SAW to Europe/M.E.

So many things TBD, let’s see how things go on a daily basis.

Please continue with your news, views, photos, rumors and good old sense of humor. Please refrain from personal attack or political commentary.
Be well.

* You can find last month’s thread here:
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:27 pm

Well, just like that, effective immediately no flights between Korea, Italy, Iraq and Turkey on top of Iran and China.
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:27 pm

Thank you TK787 for the new thread :)

Already some big news incoming:

The Turkish Ministry of Health just announced that all flights between Turkey and Italy, South Korea and Iraq are being stopped from this night on...

Source in Turkish: https://www.aa.com.tr/tr/turkiye/bakan- ... du/1750224

Another source on Twitter says that all flights to Iran and China have also (again) been suspended:
https://twitter.com/HavArenaMedya/statu ... 76355?s=19 (Image)

Oh man, this really escalated quickly :shock:

Edit: TK787 was a little bit faster :bouncy:
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:36 pm

Not sure why Iraq is on that list.
Like I've mentioned on the last thread, Japan, HGK, TPE might follow... but this is not sustainable.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:41 am

Turkish Airlines network reductions to Italy:

Istanbul – Bari 01MAR20 – 28MAR20 Reduce from 4 to 2 weekly
Istanbul – Bologna 01MAR20 – 30MAR20 Reduce from 2 to 1 daily
Istanbul – Catania 01MAR20 – 28MAR20 Reduce from 7 to 4 weekly
Istanbul – Milan Malpensa 01MAR20 – 31MAR20 Reduce from 4 to 2 daily
Istanbul – Naples 01MAR20 – 28MAR20 Reduce from 7 to 4 weekly
Istanbul – Rome 01MAR20 – 31MAR20 Reduce from 4 to 2 daily
Istanbul – Venice 01MAR20 – 28MAR20 Reduce from 2 to 1 daily
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Milan Malpensa 01MAR20 – 31MAR20 4 weekly cancelled
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Rome 01MAR20 – 31MAR20 3 weekly cancelled

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-28feb20/

I understand demand is softer these days due to the virus but TK is reducing some destinations in Italy it had already reduced a while ago. Could it also be that they are using this virus as an excuse to further reduce some underperforming routes? From what I know other carriers have reduced destinations in northern Italy, not so much south of Rome.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:53 am

Blerg wrote:
Turkish Airlines network reductions to Italy:

Istanbul – Bari 01MAR20 – 28MAR20 Reduce from 4 to 2 weekly
Istanbul – Bologna 01MAR20 – 30MAR20 Reduce from 2 to 1 daily
Istanbul – Catania 01MAR20 – 28MAR20 Reduce from 7 to 4 weekly
Istanbul – Milan Malpensa 01MAR20 – 31MAR20 Reduce from 4 to 2 daily
Istanbul – Naples 01MAR20 – 28MAR20 Reduce from 7 to 4 weekly
Istanbul – Rome 01MAR20 – 31MAR20 Reduce from 4 to 2 daily
Istanbul – Venice 01MAR20 – 28MAR20 Reduce from 2 to 1 daily
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Milan Malpensa 01MAR20 – 31MAR20 4 weekly cancelled
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Rome 01MAR20 – 31MAR20 3 weekly cancelled

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-28feb20/

I understand demand is softer these days due to the virus but TK is reducing some destinations in Italy it had already reduced a while ago. Could it also be that they are using this virus as an excuse to further reduce some underperforming routes? From what I know other carriers have reduced destinations in northern Italy, not so much south of Rome.


In view of the previous post and the Turkish government's decision to cancel all flights to Italy, that is no longer pertinent. All TK flights to and from Italy are cancelled today.
 
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Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:32 am

HB-IWC wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Turkish Airlines network reductions to Italy:

Istanbul – Bari 01MAR20 – 28MAR20 Reduce from 4 to 2 weekly
Istanbul – Bologna 01MAR20 – 30MAR20 Reduce from 2 to 1 daily
Istanbul – Catania 01MAR20 – 28MAR20 Reduce from 7 to 4 weekly
Istanbul – Milan Malpensa 01MAR20 – 31MAR20 Reduce from 4 to 2 daily
Istanbul – Naples 01MAR20 – 28MAR20 Reduce from 7 to 4 weekly
Istanbul – Rome 01MAR20 – 31MAR20 Reduce from 4 to 2 daily
Istanbul – Venice 01MAR20 – 28MAR20 Reduce from 2 to 1 daily
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Milan Malpensa 01MAR20 – 31MAR20 4 weekly cancelled
Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen – Rome 01MAR20 – 31MAR20 3 weekly cancelled

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-28feb20/

I understand demand is softer these days due to the virus but TK is reducing some destinations in Italy it had already reduced a while ago. Could it also be that they are using this virus as an excuse to further reduce some underperforming routes? From what I know other carriers have reduced destinations in northern Italy, not so much south of Rome.


In view of the previous post and the Turkish government's decision to cancel all flights to Italy, that is no longer pertinent. All TK flights to and from Italy are cancelled today.


Regardless of government's decision, it still doesn't answer my question. It was mentioned on here that TK needs to save €250 million which is why they reduced Naples, Pisa, Tallinn, Riga... a few months ago.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:39 pm

Correct me if I am wrong.
Is this just an empty TK plane coming back from ICN to IST??
https://www.flightradar24.com/THY89/2409e574
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:46 am

Korean Air has cancelled its services to IST through to 24 Apr 20

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... pril-2020/
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:21 am

Turkish Airlines Long Haul Additions and Changes:

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-28feb20/

I especially find the additional 3x Weekly B789 for ORD and SFO very interesting
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:15 am

How is MPM performing for TK? IST-JNB-DUR is getting a B789 while IST-JNB-MPM is still an A330. Is MPM not worth a B789 for TK?

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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:42 am

The additional ORD flights have a schedule very near to the daily service:

TK005 IST1410 – 1735ORD
TK185 IST1630 – 1955ORD

TK006 ORD2130 – 1615+1IST
TK186 ORD2305 – 1750+1IST

Meanwhile the other US cities with additional flights (JFK, IAD, LAX and SFO) see an early morning departure.

Is there any specific reason? Connectivity to specific markets at IST or just restrictions of some sort at ORD?
 
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Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:09 pm

TK's TC-JGZ, the 738 which experienced an unfortunate runway excursion has been scrapped and they have started dismantling the said frame at Odessa Airport.

See. (in Turkish): https://www.airporthaber.com/thy-haberl ... lendi.html (for its current state)
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Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:05 pm

Any news on AnadoluJet international service expansion re what service is offered? Tea and sandwich like on domestic flights? Any privileges to Elit Card holders??? Seat assignment or advance boarding?? No IFE I presume as these planes do not have those installed.
 
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Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:07 pm

I wonder if any of that happens, I mean AJet expansion at SAW with 57 jets.
Look what's happening to the world of aviation market.
It has been only 4 short days since I've started this thread but any ideas what's happening at TK with all these suspensions and dropping pax numbers in the world? Pegasus positioned better to survive this downturn???
 
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Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:38 pm

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I wonder if any of that happens, I mean AJet expansion at SAW with 57 jets.
Look what's happening to the world of aviation market.
It has been only 4 short days since I've started this thread but any ideas what's happening at TK with all these suspensions and dropping pax numbers in the world? Pegasus positioned better to survive this downturn???

By the way, will the replacement of TK by AJet at SAW mean rebasing A320s currently based there to IST?
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Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:59 pm

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Any news on AnadoluJet international service expansion re what service is offered? Tea and sandwich like on domestic flights? Any privileges to Elit Card holders??? Seat assignment or advance boarding?? No IFE I presume as these planes do not have those installed.

I know there is no IFE because AnadoluJet is a medium service airline which don’t offer Business Class like Turkish does. But you may likely still get meals and drinks (I think) on these routes after TK left SAW by end of March. I guess the service reminds me as Sriwijaya Air of Indonesia.
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Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:55 pm

Turns out AtlasGlobal had a debt of US$281 million, as of 31 December 2019. The first hearing of its bankruptcy case will be held on 16 April 2020.
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Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:21 pm

A passenger has tested positive for Coronavirus after arriving in SIN on a Turkish Airlines flight on the 3rd of March

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/si ... um=twitter
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Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:45 pm

Just landed from PC1254 with the new A321N TC-RBA
At 15:17 modway above europe another Pegasus went right above us, it was very close. I had never another plane in the sky that close. Is there a way I can look back and find out which flight that was?
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Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:59 pm

SQ789 wrote:
ankaraflyjet wrote:
Any news on AnadoluJet international service expansion re what service is offered? Tea and sandwich like on domestic flights? Any privileges to Elit Card holders??? Seat assignment or advance boarding?? No IFE I presume as these planes do not have those installed.

I know there is no IFE because AnadoluJet is a medium service airline which don’t offer Business Class like Turkish does. But you may likely still get meals and drinks (I think) on these routes after TK left SAW by end of March. I guess the service reminds me as Sriwijaya Air of Indonesia.


I made an internship at a friends travel agency and since then have good connections to him. Lately, we talked about the transition at SAW to AnadoluJet and he told me he was at a conference of Turkish/AnadoluJet at Frankfurt where they introduced (or like presented? whatever) the transition and they said that meals and drinks will be complimentary for a while because many have also been rebooked from TK to AnadoluJet (like my uncle recently on ESB-FRA, not only SAW). After some time a buy on-board programm will be avaible which I personally expect after the busy summer season. Let's see how it will be, will definetly share my uncles experiences here :)

Fortunately, I only book my flights from FRA to Turkey (mostly Kayseri) only over IST to get the A330 (even had the chance for the really rare 77W at FRA last year) and to be sure about flying TK metal :D

Btw, I'll fly FRA-IST-ASR and back twice this year, from which I will hopefully report here. Also 2 legs including Business Class (A321 and A332, last one will be very interesting) :bouncy:
 
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Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:07 pm

A little bit off topic. But, FlyBe went into administration. I wonder what is going to happen to their precious slot times at AMS. I know TK wants to open a 5th daily flight to AMS, however that is not possible due to slot restrictions. I’ve also heard they want to resume ESB - AMS, which is also not possible due to slot restrictions at AMS. I hope TK can get some slots from FlyBe and use them to open new routes.
 
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Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:05 am

TK tweeted a new “guess the new destination” challenge. Anyone with a decent guess for this new Long Haul destination?

https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/sta ... 6053238786


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Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:13 am

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TK tweeted a new “guess the new destination” challenge. Anyone with a decent guess for this new Long Haul destination?

https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/sta ... 6053238786


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If I took the hint of the distance and countries that are being overflown the only option is somewhere in the Caribbean.


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Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:23 am

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TK tweeted a new “guess the new destination” challenge. Anyone with a decent guess for this new Long Haul destination?

https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/sta ... 6053238786


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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:34 pm

TK already flies to Havana.
Maybe Orlando, FL, or maybe SanJuan, PR or maybe another destination in Brasil.
 
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Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:16 pm

Just going by '[email protected]' on gcmap, DEN and DFW seem to be the closest to that range. Could be KIN too.
 
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Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:20 pm

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TK tweeted a new “guess the new destination” challenge. Anyone with a decent guess for this new Long Haul destination?

https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/sta ... 6053238786


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Denver?
 
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Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:26 pm

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Turns out AtlasGlobal had a debt of US$281 million, as of 31 December 2019. The first hearing of its bankruptcy case will be held on 16 April 2020.


Highly doubt their assets will be enought ot recover that debt...
Which creditos get priority in this case? Employee salaries, Lessors, Airport debts?
 
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Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:29 pm

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Just going by '[email protected]' on gcmap, DEN and DFW seem to be the closest to that range. Could be KIN too.

I figured it would fly over and pass America, because its the countries that its passing. If thats the case DTW for sure is my choice. Second would be DFW then DEN


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Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:32 pm

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TK tweeted a new “guess the new destination” challenge. Anyone with a decent guess for this new Long Haul destination?

https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/sta ... 6053238786


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Are you sure this is a new destination? They did this before and it was promoting Berlin, which wasn’t a new destination.

https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/sta ... 2404357120
 
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Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:48 pm

Ishrion wrote:
gokmengs wrote:
TK tweeted a new “guess the new destination” challenge. Anyone with a decent guess for this new Long Haul destination?

https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/sta ... 6053238786


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Are you sure this is a new destination? They did this before and it was promoting Berlin, which wasn’t a new destination.

https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/sta ... 2404357120

They already served TXL for a very long time. For the new destination, I'm not very sure which is the next TK destination is.
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Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:50 pm

SQ789 wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
gokmengs wrote:
TK tweeted a new “guess the new destination” challenge. Anyone with a decent guess for this new Long Haul destination?

https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/sta ... 6053238786


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Are you sure this is a new destination? They did this before and it was promoting Berlin, which wasn’t a new destination.

https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/sta ... 2404357120

They already served TXL for a very long time. For the new destination, I'm not very sure which is the next TK destination is.


I’m saying I don’t think it’s a new destination. They did this “guess the destination” before and it was Berlin, which is already been served.
 
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Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:52 pm

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I’m saying I don’t think it’s a new destination. They did this “guess the destination” before and it was Berlin, which is already been served.

Hmmmm, makes sense. Thank you.
As usual us a.nutters trying to find the hidden message, whereas 99% of the flying pax would not be able to point DTW, KIN, DEN on a map :)
So, it is Havana. IST-HAV is 9975km :)
 
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Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:08 pm

I'm guessing it's Kingston, Jamaica.
 
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Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:08 pm

Nothing is announced as new destination at q4 presentation, some frequency increase to ord,iah, sanf and lax
Sanf seems strange for me, TK was suffering for 200-250 pax for a while seems that those days are over
 
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Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:21 pm

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I’m saying I don’t think it’s a new destination. They did this “guess the destination” before and it was Berlin, which is already been served.

Hmmmm, makes sense. Thank you.
As usual us a.nutters trying to find the hidden message, whereas 99% of the flying pax would not be able to point DTW, KIN, DEN on a map :)
So, it is Havana. IST-HAV is 9975km :)

So you are saying they are announcing an already served route? That’s bizarre even by TK standards :)


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Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:34 pm

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TK787 wrote:
Ishrion wrote:

I’m saying I don’t think it’s a new destination. They did this “guess the destination” before and it was Berlin, which is already been served.

Hmmmm, makes sense. Thank you.
As usual us a.nutters trying to find the hidden message, whereas 99% of the flying pax would not be able to point DTW, KIN, DEN on a map :)
So, it is Havana. IST-HAV is 9975km :)

So you are saying they are announcing an already served route? That’s bizarre even by TK standards :)


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It’s not really announcing. It’s just fun for people, and it promotes a city.
 
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Delete, duplicate.
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Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:35 pm

gokmengs wrote:
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Ishrion wrote:

I’m saying I don’t think it’s a new destination. They did this “guess the destination” before and it was Berlin, which is already been served.

Hmmmm, makes sense. Thank you.
As usual us a.nutters trying to find the hidden message, whereas 99% of the flying pax would not be able to point DTW, KIN, DEN on a map :)
So, it is Havana. IST-HAV is 9975km :)

So you are saying they are announcing an already served route? That’s bizarre even by TK standards :)


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Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:36 am

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I'm guessing it's Kingston, Jamaica.


You could be right. After looking at the distance I found on travelmath.com, KIN is 9985km which is closest to what TK posted in that video. (If it is a new destination instead of IST-HAV-IST as mentioned above) Whereas DEN is 9865km, DFW is 10098km and DTW is 8527km. KIN would be a nice addition.
 
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Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:07 pm

To which city (new or exising) Kin can be added?
 
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Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:44 pm

Like "Ishrion" said, this ad is not for a new destination. Most likely for Havana.
Only place in the Caribbean that I can wildly guess for TK to fly to would be San Juan, PR.... for cruise travel but even that is not going to happen.
There are many other places in the world TK can fly to ahead of KIN to make money.
 
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Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:25 pm

my bet is on CUN in Mexico
 
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Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:03 pm

Last time TK used this same challenge was Feb 10th;
....."an entirely new journey" at 1713km... on Feb 15th the answer was IST-BER at 1705km.

This one came on March 6th;
.... "an entirely new journey" at 9974km . We have few more days for the answer, but IST-HAV at 9975km could be the answer.
 
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Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:59 pm

-By the way, #11 TK 787-9 TC-LLK is ready for delivery and #12 and #13 going through final assembly.
-Finally yesterday for the first time TK website started having a "COVID19" info at the front page and today I hear they are having some free reissue options, details here:

"For tickets* purchased between March 6 and March 24 (*excluding tickets for domestic flights within Turkey and to/from Ercan Airport), your first change request will be applied free of charge.
Application conditions:

Valid for tickets booked and purchased between March 6 and March 24, 2020.
Valid on flights operated by Turkish Airlines until the end of 2020.
Passengers can make a change request up to 5 days prior to their flight.
Domestic flights in Turkey and to/from Ercan Airport are not included.
Fare differences that may be incurred due to the change request will be collected from our passengers.
Free of charge change requests can be made through the Turkish Airlines Sales Offices and the agencies the ticket was purchased from."

-With LH thinking about reducing capacity by 50%, I wonder how TK is doing. I mean its reservations into the future. Looking at fares I care about, no changes in terms of pricing compared to 3 months ago.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:48 pm

according to official figures, there aren't any corona cases reported (yet) in Turkey; however, almost all neighboring countries (especially Iran) have confirmed cases and even deaths. this brings me to the believe that the government doesn't publish the cases at all which itself is bogus of course and potentially a sign of "we stay strong in all circumstances". in my opinion TK is in the same boat: for sure the demand for them dropped as well, but "staying strong" together with "hoping for the fast recovery of the global situation" is (probably) their strategy right now. this is dangerous and eats up a lot of their cash-flow as I can't believe that any of their international flights go out full these days. not only LH, but many global carrier reduced capacity tremendously whereas TK only to a few markets (China, Italy, Iran, ...). their key income is from business travel and there aren't so many Turks living abroad or people going to Turkey for holiday to keep TK's revenues as before. don't get me wrong - I wish them all the best. realisticly spoken, the drastic drop on global business travel does also hit them and will take its toll.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:44 pm

TK787 wrote:
TK already flies to Havana.
Maybe Orlando, FL, or maybe SanJuan, PR or maybe another destination in Brasil.


Doesn't seem to be the case here but GIG could be a strong candidate for TK being a gap in their network. They fly IST-GRU-EZE 4xw and IST-GRU 3xw. The terminator service could get an extra tag to GIG perhaps. Would be the easy way to cover a new destination.

But I don't remember seeing any mention to GIG recently.
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:36 am

I saw Turkish posted its 2019 earnings.

TK net income of record 4.54 billion liras (USD $745 million) which beat analysts estimated. Revenue rose almost 20% from the year-earlier period.

https://investor.turkishairlines.com/en
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:17 am

stylo777 wrote:
according to official figures, there aren't any corona cases reported (yet) in Turkey; however, almost all neighboring countries (especially Iran) have confirmed cases and even deaths. this brings me to the believe that the government doesn't publish the cases at all


Most likely. Then there are the cases which like all countries they don't know about.

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