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Lootess
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China Eastern fires Korean FAs

Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:33 pm

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2020/03/11/2020031101761.html

Korean paper uses the fired term, and China Eastern simply says not renewed.

A staffer at China Eastern said, "Employment contract terms differ by nationality, and those of Japanese staff are renewed each year. We did not fire the Korean staff, but their contracts have expired and we will pay them retirement bonuses as well as two months' worth of pay."
 
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Re: China Eastern fires Korean FAs

Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:54 pm

Chosun Ilbo is the Korean equivalent of Daily Mail.
 
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Re: China Eastern fires Korean FAs

Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:11 pm

Lootess wrote:
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2020/03/11/2020031101761.html

Korean paper uses the fired term, and China Eastern simply says not renewed.

A staffer at China Eastern said, "Employment contract terms differ by nationality, and those of Japanese staff are renewed each year. We did not fire the Korean staff, but their contracts have expired and we will pay them retirement bonuses as well as two months' worth of pay."


Seems not renewed to me. If because of the virus, then it's a bit like the kettle calling the pot black!
 
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Re: China Eastern fires Korean FAs

Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:58 pm

Do MU have Italian/Iranian/Spanish FA?
 
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Re: China Eastern fires Korean FAs

Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:12 pm

That is a shame. The Korean fight attendants have always, on my flights, been the best. Perhaps someone got jealous...

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Re: China Eastern fires Korean FAs

Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:47 am

chunhimlai wrote:
Do MU have Italian/Iranian/Spanish FA?


Why Spain? How does Spain make this list?
 
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Re: China Eastern fires Korean FAs

Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:56 am

JayBCN wrote:
chunhimlai wrote:
Do MU have Italian/Iranian/Spanish FA?


Why Spain? How does Spain make this list?


MU fly's to Madrid. It's a city in Spain. Thus they speak Spanish. The original Spanish.
 
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Re: China Eastern fires Korean FAs

Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:12 am

I wonder what’s going on over at Hainan Airlines. A majority of their Cabin Crew are expats from Europe and the Americas.
 
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Re: China Eastern fires Korean FAs

Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:48 am

It's fairly standard for carriers employing foreigners to let these contracts (usually renewable fixed time contracts) 'expire' when they need to shrink the workforce a bit.

It's much easier to manage PR-wise than firing locals.
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Re: China Eastern fires Korean FAs

Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:23 am

rbavfan wrote:
JayBCN wrote:
chunhimlai wrote:
Do MU have Italian/Iranian/Spanish FA?


Why Spain? How does Spain make this list?


MU fly's to Madrid. It's a city in Spain. Thus they speak Spanish. The original Spanish.


Not sure about Spain or Iran but news is that all Italians and Japanese were renewed (retained). So only Koreans were let go.
 
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Re: China Eastern fires Korean FAs

Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:03 am

“ Around 200 Korean flight attendants work for China Eastern...”

Of which 73 did not get their contracts renewed. Seems like they will still retain more than half of their Korean FAs. Can’t explicitly prove that there is discrimination here- China Eastern simply does not need 200 Korean FAs at this time in light of current circumstances. If all 200 Korean FAs were “terminated” and no other FA nationals were let go, then discrimination might appear to be the case.
 
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Re: China Eastern fires Korean FAs

Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:53 am

I think the exact words were "The good news is that you're fired. The bad news is that you've got two months to regain your jobs, starting with tonight's sit".
 
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Re: China Eastern fires Korean FAs

Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:17 pm

airplaneboy wrote:
“ Around 200 Korean flight attendants work for China Eastern...”

Of which 73 did not get their contracts renewed. Seems like they will still retain more than half of their Korean FAs. Can’t explicitly prove that there is discrimination here- China Eastern simply does not need 200 Korean FAs at this time in light of current circumstances. If all 200 Korean FAs were “terminated” and no other FA nationals were let go, then discrimination might appear to be the case.


It is possible that they were let go because their contracts were expiring now. Other foreign crew contracts may have a later expiration date.
 
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Re: China Eastern fires Korean FAs

Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:32 pm

I'm wondering about European FA: do they have a Chinese or a European contract?
Because in some European countries, you cannot renew a fixed term contract more than a certain number of times (ie once in France I think) after what, you are supposed to make a permanent contract.
 
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Re: China Eastern fires Korean FAs

Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:56 pm

JayBCN wrote:
chunhimlai wrote:
Do MU have Italian/Iranian/Spanish FA?


Why Spain? How does Spain make this list?


The Spanish flu?
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Re: China Eastern fires Korean FAs

Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:40 pm

JayBCN wrote:
chunhimlai wrote:
Do MU have Italian/Iranian/Spanish FA?


Why Spain? How does Spain make this list?


As stated earlier MU does fly to MAD and the oubreak has been pretty severe in Spain. I have a decent amount of family there that expect a quaratine of at least Madrid fairly soon. Hell, members of the cabinet have the virus. It´s a bad situation. There won´t be much intercontinental travel to and from Spain soon and that situation will last some time probably. If they have Spanish staff it may make sense to let them off their contracts if that is the reason for Korean crew not being renewed.
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Re: China Eastern fires Korean FAs

Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:47 pm

workhorse wrote:
airplaneboy wrote:
“ Around 200 Korean flight attendants work for China Eastern...”

Of which 73 did not get their contracts renewed. Seems like they will still retain more than half of their Korean FAs. Can’t explicitly prove that there is discrimination here- China Eastern simply does not need 200 Korean FAs at this time in light of current circumstances. If all 200 Korean FAs were “terminated” and no other FA nationals were let go, then discrimination might appear to be the case.


It is possible that they were let go because their contracts were expiring now. Other foreign crew contracts may have a later expiration date.


The news clearly states that other foreign crews (notably Japanese/Iranians) were renewed.
 
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Re: China Eastern fires Korean FAs

Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:38 pm

Confuscius wrote:
JayBCN wrote:
chunhimlai wrote:
Do MU have Italian/Iranian/Spanish FA?


Why Spain? How does Spain make this list?


The Spanish flu?


Spanish flu originated in Haskell County, Kansas, United States of America.

The American soldiers brought it into Europe. The reason it was called the "Spanish" flu was due to Spain's neutrality during WW1.
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Re: China Eastern fires Korean FAs

Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:31 am

oceanvikram wrote:
Confuscius wrote:
JayBCN wrote:

Why Spain? How does Spain make this list?


The Spanish flu?


Spanish flu originated in Haskell County, Kansas, United States of America.

The American soldiers brought it into Europe. The reason it was called the "Spanish" flu was due to Spain's neutrality during WW1.


As a matter of fact, Kansas is only one of the hypothesis for the origin of the "Spanish flu", which, to this day, is still uncertain.
To complete what you said about why it was called "Spanish", the fact the Spanish was neutral and not at war meant that it was on of the only country to allow information about the disease and its impact to circulate freely, without the censorship and propaganda that applied in other countries. It means that, at first sight, it seemed that the disease was much worse in Spain than in other countries. Quite a lesson about how we consider the present disease... (Not that a country may want to pretend it did not start there...)

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