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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:56 am

Wow am I reading this right? Major US airlines want to consolidate between themselves as in share the flights and passengers to save cost? These are truly epic times!

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/29/consoli ... XRmApTMCEI
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:01 am

Good grief...I was just looking at the flight screen for today(March 30) in our flight operation room here at LAX...There are no flights for SQ, BR, FJ, PR, CA, CZ, MU, MF, VA ...and just one flight for OZ (OZ202) and CI (CI8)

It's gonna be a ghost town at TBIT!
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:18 am

Just one EZY flight in the air now. Liverpool to Belfast.

Two Virgin Atlantic planes left flying. LAX & JFK.
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:33 am

I remember being at TBIT during SARS- the terminal was a ghost town with the exception of PAL.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:19 am

Virgin operating a 747-400 from Heathrow to Los Angeles today.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:32 pm

All of U2’s flights today are empty. They’re clearing out all their smaller bases (ncl, Edi, Gla, bfs) and ferrying them to sen so they can be ready for when maintenance is due over the weeks. The ncl jets are in the air now
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:51 pm

No matter Airbaltic has more than 100 million eur in acounts, goverment of Latvia will support Airbaltic with up to 150millions eur.

Share capital will be raised by 36 millions eur, including old 30million eur loan from goverment.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:59 pm

Air Baltic have got a big order with Airbus. Not sure how long that 250m EUR is going to last...
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:15 pm

They are droping Q400 and last 737's earlier than expected (now), there will be 22 a220 after flights resume. So i believe next deliveries are postponed.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:41 pm

Gupta wrote:
All of U2’s flights today are empty. They’re clearing out all their smaller bases (ncl, Edi, Gla, bfs) and ferrying them to sen so they can be ready for when maintenance is due over the weeks. The ncl jets are in the air now


4 aircraft now departed gla-sen. Also one to lgw (g-ezge). Think this has been positioning crews as already done sen-ncl-edi-gla today.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:50 pm

Arion640 wrote:
Virgin operating a 747-400 from Heathrow to Los Angeles today.


Do you know the flight number?...currently the only VS LHR LAX flight I can find is VS23 and its operated by a B787..
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:26 pm

Tankdiver wrote:
Arion640 wrote:
Virgin operating a 747-400 from Heathrow to Los Angeles today.


Do you know the flight number?...currently the only VS LHR LAX flight I can find is VS23 and its operated by a B787..


VIR607P - it’s currently over Ontario. G-VROS.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:18 pm

Today 2 repatriation flights from Algiers to North America
B767ER Algiers-USA (probably Washington). The aircraft is now south of Ireland
A333 Air Canada Algiers-Montreal. The aircraft arrived in Algiers 45mn ago.
 
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:14 pm

Interesting flight - Hainan flying PVG-BRU-CCS-BRU-China with B789:

29 Mar - HU719 PVG 13.07 - BRU 18.43 Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner B-1138
29 Mar - HU719 BRU 20.54 - CCS 02.36 Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner B-1138
30 Mar - HU720 CCS 07.31 - BRU 22.37 Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner B-1138

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/b-1138
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:28 pm

smokeybandit wrote:

Obviously. You would want everyone thumbing through the same magazine
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:41 pm

dabc wrote:
Today 2 repatriation flights from Algiers to North America
B767ER Algiers-USA (probably Washington). The aircraft is now south of Ireland
A333 Air Canada Algiers-Montreal. The aircraft arrived in Algiers 45mn ago.


N225AX, Omni Air International (ex Continental Airlines)
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:55 pm

While other airlines significantly cut flights, Qatar Airways is doing the opposite. I mean, they’re also cutting flights drastically but they’ve also tapped into a new market to try for repatriation efforts I think. New route to Brisbane launched 30 March.

https://bit.ly/3aql4c1
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:30 pm

smokeybandit wrote:


Probably never to return now.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:42 pm

Easyjet has grounded its entire fleet! Crazy stuff, all 344 aircraft on the ground. I can’t imagine how many aircraft will be grounded by like mid-April. In excess of 12,000 planes perhaps? Thoughts?

https://bit.ly/39pJAss
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:10 pm

Aerolineas Argentinas/Austral suspended the emergency daily schedule that was in place between Buenos Aires and Córdoba, Iguazú, Mendoza, Neuquén, Río Gallegos, Tucumán and Ushuaia, plus 3 wkly flights to Trelew and 4 wkly flights to Comodoro Rivadavia, until April 12th at least. All international flights are suspended.

LATAM Argentina (*) has suspended all operations, domestic and international, until April 30th, same date goes for Flybondi, the ULCC based at Buenos Aires El Palomar. JetSmart (plus Norwegian's former operations from AEP) are suspended until April the 12th - at least.\

(*) LATAM Colombia, Ecuador and Peru are grounded as well. Only LATAM Brazil and Chile continue to operate a few routes only, essential domestic services and only 5 international routes that will be maintained until April 30th, for the time being.

SCL – GRU, GRU – MIA, GRU – JFK, SCL – MIA and SCL – LAX.
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:54 pm

Interesting link of the HU plane. Why is it flying to Caracas?
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:59 pm

x1234 wrote:
Interesting link of the HU plane. Why is it flying to Caracas?


Delivering medical supplies and transporting medical specialists to help.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/amp/news ... -0004.html
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:27 pm

There are indeed a small number of repatriation flights still occurring - but many of the people who needed to get back to their home country have by now arrived. There will of course always be a few high profile cases where local laws make this more difficult, but for ordinary travellers who have made a decent attempt at getting home, this exercise is coming close to completion. What remains are diplomats (and their families), people who have been in remote locations far from an airport, or people who perhaps were aware they should go back home earlier but just didn't want to. Any competent company running a tour group should by now have got their customers back. Spring break in the USA ended weeks ago

There are also a number of cargo flights still operating. Again, these are necessary to keep the world running. Yes to medical related - but these will likely be very few in number. And yes, also military flights - but these tend not to show up on FR24

Some of the major network carriers in the world are still running a *very* basic skeleton of their normal network. There will always be people who have some sort of urgent need to get somewhere due to an emergency - e.g. connecting offshore islands to the mainland, or a parent in another country who is suddenly taken very ill and a natural desire to see them - as well as providing minimal domestic connectivity in countries with a large area
Whenever a crowd does something, there always seems to be one outlier person who decides to be completely different. QR seems to be that outlier right now

Right now in Europe and western Asia, there's very little else operating right now.
China and Japan have a sizeable number of aircraft in the air, but they seems to be reporting very few new cases of Covid each day. If we assume the reported figures are accurate, planes being in the air is perhaps fair. This may of course change...

However, given what happened in 1918 and the pronounced effects of social distancing (or not) in the USA at the time, the very low load factors (and likely red ink airlines are seeing), and the high number of new cases being reported in the USA each day, it surprises me that there are so many passenger aircraft flying over the USA compared to other parts of the world
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:25 am

Back to the topic.

AC is laying off 15 200 unionized workers, plus 1300 higher up, in stages from April 3rd and staged over two months. Basically, the company is almost shut down.

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/16 ... air-canada (in french)
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:28 am

Moderator...
seeing this topic is getting huge, maybe time to split this into International carriers/cities and the other U.S domestic carriers/cities?
Would make it easier to scan the news that a reader wants to see?
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:37 am

Tankdiver wrote:
trex8 wrote:
The last 4 pax 744s ever made and delivered to CI are all parked, B18210,1, 2 at TPE havent flown for 1- 2 months and the last B18215 which first flew almost exactly 15 years ago April 8, 2005, delivered April 26, 2005 now parked at KHH since Mar 19. I doubt they will be coming back. Their 744s have been usually relegated to high volume regional routes to mainland China/Japan last year as A359/77W took over the transpac/Euro flights..
At least their 18 744Fs are busy. Maybe they will need to reactivate the 2 still parked at VCV. They reactivated one last year and leased to ASL.


We handle all CI cargo flights at LAX...the past few weeks saw a near explosion of air cargo at LAX as passenger flights are winding down. Some days we get up to 4 CI 744F in a spand of 24hrs. Traffic in and out of ICC (cargo alley) is crazy. I had to call a stop while pushing back from a pad because planes were taxing in so close I thought they were gonna clip wings...I think I counted about 7 Kalitta aircraft on one of my shift.

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Amazing photos. Keep it coming. Soon we'll only have cargo aircraft to geek out on.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:37 am

friendlyskies22 wrote:
Moderator...
seeing this topic is getting huge, maybe time to split this into International carriers/cities and the other U.S domestic carriers/cities?
Would make it easier to scan the news that a reader wants to see?


Nah, keep it coming. At this point, I'm not even looking at other threads.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:25 am

davidjohnson6 wrote:
There are indeed a small number of repatriation flights still occurring - but many of the people who needed to get back to their home country have by now arrived. There will of course always be a few high profile cases where local laws make this more difficult, but for ordinary travellers who have made a decent attempt at getting home, this exercise is coming close to completion. What remains are diplomats (and their families), people who have been in remote locations far from an airport, or people who perhaps were aware they should go back home earlier but just didn't want to. Any competent company running a tour group should by now have got their customers back. Spring break in the USA ended weeks ago

There are also a number of cargo flights still operating. Again, these are necessary to keep the world running. Yes to medical related - but these will likely be very few in number. And yes, also military flights - but these tend not to show up on FR24

Some of the major network carriers in the world are still running a *very* basic skeleton of their normal network. There will always be people who have some sort of urgent need to get somewhere due to an emergency - e.g. connecting offshore islands to the mainland, or a parent in another country who is suddenly taken very ill and a natural desire to see them - as well as providing minimal domestic connectivity in countries with a large area
Whenever a crowd does something, there always seems to be one outlier person who decides to be completely different. QR seems to be that outlier right now

Right now in Europe and western Asia, there's very little else operating right now.
China and Japan have a sizeable number of aircraft in the air, but they seems to be reporting very few new cases of Covid each day. If we assume the reported figures are accurate, planes being in the air is perhaps fair. This may of course change...

However, given what happened in 1918 and the pronounced effects of social distancing (or not) in the USA at the time, the very low load factors (and likely red ink airlines are seeing), and the high number of new cases being reported in the USA each day, it surprises me that there are so many passenger aircraft flying over the USA compared to other parts of the world

Its insane so many flights are taking place. Fortunately NK has suspended flights to NY NJ and CT. I'm hoping others will follow. No need for employees to be exposed to COVID19 for nearly empty planes.
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:25 am

I know it's small ball (American speak) but I just noticed UA2743 flying overhead from VCV to SFO, a 787-9. I figured metal would be heading toward Victorville, not the other way around.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2743
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:29 am

There may be a lot of flights in the US, but according to this thread there is no one on them--6-7 passengers is not uncommon according to the reports above. There are healthcare workers using them too, to reposition themselves to the hotspots, as well as other essential workers; and cargo. I don't think many people are just flying around for the fun of it or going on vacation. It seems that in April the flights will be cut back substantially from where they are right now.
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:29 am

MRYapproach wrote:
I know it's small ball (American speak) but I just noticed UA2743 flying overhead from VCV to SFO, a 787-9. I figured metal would be heading toward Victorville, not the other way around.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2743

They do mods and MRO work at VCV too
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:04 am

BA cuts HKG, SYD and SIN in April. HKG stops 4/5. SIN stops 4/7 and SYD stops 4/9.


https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... -hong-kong
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:46 am

BA's entire Gatwick operation is suspended: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52103171. Have fun identifying the Beeb's usual aviation-related errors e.g. gates and taxiways are all runways etc...
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:58 am

SpotterBrussels wrote:
Easyjet has grounded its entire fleet! Crazy stuff, all 344 aircraft on the ground. I can’t imagine how many aircraft will be grounded by like mid-April. In excess of 12,000 planes perhaps? Thoughts?

https://bit.ly/39pJAss


Yet my flight from LGW-GLA on April 19th is still inviting me to check in...
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:00 am

32andBelow wrote:
MRYapproach wrote:
I know it's small ball (American speak) but I just noticed UA2743 flying overhead from VCV to SFO, a 787-9. I figured metal would be heading toward Victorville, not the other way around.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2743

They do mods and MRO work at VCV too


Does that include Ryanair ? I noticed on FR24 the other day, two Ryanair 738's descending over the UK from Reykjavik having transited across the pond from Victorville ? A friend suggested they may have been loading up on spares over there ?
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:16 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52100534

"The four companies which manage ground operations at UK airports have warned that they are close to collapse, putting thousands of jobs at risk.
Swissport, WFS, Dnata and Menzies may not be able to continue operating for more than a few weeks, with some 25,000 jobs under threat."
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:23 am

Air New Zealand is considering modifying a 777-200 to have part of it just cargo. Essentially a Boeing 777-200 combi, pretty cool especially considering KLM’s 747 retirement.

https://bit.ly/2QZhb63
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:06 am

Most of the airport are gost town now.
The one where I work is only seeing medevac flights (a lot) using helicopters.

https://youtu.be/gB6YLKFleYQ
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:19 am

SpotterBrussels wrote:
While other airlines significantly cut flights, Qatar Airways is doing the opposite. I mean, they’re also cutting flights drastically but they’ve also tapped into a new market to try for repatriation efforts I think. New route to Brisbane launched 30 March.

https://bit.ly/3aql4c1


The QR BNE flights are scheduled charters- the Australia-Qatar air services agreement hasn't been updated so QR can't launch BNE yet.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:10 am

eta unknown wrote:
SpotterBrussels wrote:
While other airlines significantly cut flights, Qatar Airways is doing the opposite. I mean, they’re also cutting flights drastically but they’ve also tapped into a new market to try for repatriation efforts I think. New route to Brisbane launched 30 March.

https://bit.ly/3aql4c1


The QR BNE flights are scheduled charters- the Australia-Qatar air services agreement hasn't been updated so QR can't launch BNE yet.


Either way, they’re adding capacity and that’s pretty unique at this stage haha
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:38 am

Video of grounded BA and EZY aircraft at LGW.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... s-11966088

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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:15 pm

Another Bamboo's repatriation flight, QH9091. https://www.flightradar24.com/BAV9091/244c82a2
This 787-9 is flying SGN-BKK-KUN repatriating Europeans in Thailand and Vietnam.
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:45 pm

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