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UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:30 am

Hi all-

I'm curious of anyone knows as to why the old ceased French airline UTA had green exit doors on all of their aircraft? Looks like they're unpainted or something similar but I can't find out why this was. DC-8, 747, DC-10s, etc all seemed to have green unpainted doors.

Check out these photos for reference:

https://www.airliners.net/photo/UTA-Uni ... AqToLYU%3D

https://www.airliners.net/photo/UTA-Uni ... AqToLYU%3D

https://www.airliners.net/photo/UTA-Uni ... AqToLYU%3D

https://www.airliners.net/photo/UTA-Uni ... AqToLYU%3D

Thank you all for your insight!

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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:24 am

It is their standard livery.The colors of blue and green were implemented after the merger of UAT and TAI. Then they modernized into this scheme. They were painted green, most of your links look good, the 747 does seem a little off. You can check other data bases for the original paint job, ( and the TAI and UTA schemes)
 
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:42 am

I wonder why the 743's upper deck emergency door didn't get the same treatment as the others. Seems a little odd that one set of doors would be white and the rest green.
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:23 am

Represent to you UTA's descendant.
Say hello to Bamboo Airways :D
From the A320neos:

To the bigger A321neos:

And even the shiny 787-9s:


Green is painted on both standard and special liveries, on all of Bamboo's airframes.
Noted that the green is only painted to the front door, not all doors like UTA. But enough to remind you...
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:28 am

I know I might be going against the flow, but I don't like the UTA livery at all... it was plain boring. Lufthansa current colors and the ill-fated Joon also seem to have taken inspiration from the UTA livery. The green doors look totally out of place. They look like replacement doors, which were installed in a hurry and still need to be correctely painted.

The Bamboo on the other hand, is very fresh and colorful, a welcome sight!
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:29 am

The green door was very much part of the design.

UTA was created with the merger of two airlines and the green pays homage to company called TAI (Transports Aériens Intercontinentaux) which used green as their primary scheme while the other merged company was dark blue primary.

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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:30 am

argentinevol98 wrote:
I wonder why the 743's upper deck emergency door didn't get the same treatment as the others. Seems a little odd that one set of doors would be white and the rest green.

Why do you consider it "odd"? Downstairs you have patches of green as decoration, why ruin the continuity with a green splash upstairs, especially as it would be over the UTA name? BTW, did you note when operated as a combi, the last door was painted blue instead of green.
 
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:06 am

leleko747 wrote:
The green doors look totally out of place. They look like replacement doors, which were installed in a hurry and still need to be correctely painted.


If you look at it from today, it might be so, but try to consider it as a design from about half a century ago that both departed from what was common then and tried to keep visible that two different airlines existed before the creation of UTA.
 
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:33 am

It easy to forget just how radical UTA's scheme was in the early 70s. The first 'eurowhite' scheme, a few years before Air France, and decades before that term was conjoured up, with a fin extension design that is still being copied 47 years later. The green doors gave a flash of colour sorely missing in most current eurowhite liveries. It's an all time classic in my view.
 
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:25 am

L1011TheTriStar wrote:

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On the subject of UTA, I did like the livery. I thought the “Big Boss” titles on the 747-200SUD and 747-300:



I found it interesting that some 747s has door 5 green, and others had it in the blue of the tail. I definitely think the green door inside the blue of the tail, as seen on the DC-10 and some of the 747s, looked better than the plain blue door seen on the other 747s.



I did also think their previous liveries looked rather good:



Maybe I just have a soft spot for them as one of the first airlines I flew on (alongside NZ, QF, and SB).

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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:06 pm

"Big Boss" was a good play on words......"bosse" in French meaning bump :-)
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:16 pm

Don't forget the Aeromaritime subsidiary!
 
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:22 pm

Zimzam wrote:
It easy to forget just how radical UTA's scheme was in the early 70s. The first 'eurowhite' scheme, a few years before Air France, and decades before that term was conjoured up, with a fin extension design that is still being copied 47 years later. The green doors gave a flash of colour sorely missing in most current eurowhite liveries. It's an all time classic in my view.

With a grey belly, I'm not sure it really counts as a eurowhite scheme? It was similar to the Lufthansa livery of the time, without the blue cheatline, but with the blue tail carried onto the aft of the cabin and the doors painted instead.
 
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:32 pm

In an era where cheat lines were still predominant I always thought the UTA livery was one of the most unique. The green doors were also something that made the brand stand out from others. In many ways it was ahead of its time if you look at what’s out there today.

I liked it then and I like it now. The green doors added something that could have been very bland, which of course is what we see today.
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:55 pm

i love the UTA livery. the 747 is spectacular.
 
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:50 pm

VirginFlyer wrote:
I found it interesting that some 747s has door 5 green, and others had it in the blue of the tail.


Also strange to see, that the upper deck exit door was not painted...
 
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:54 pm

Pointed out in above replies why 747 door 5 was sometimes blue and why the upper deck door stayed white.
 
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:00 pm

debonair wrote:
Also strange to see, that the upper deck exit door was not painted...


That's because it would disrupt the livery design. The doors are not painted simply to make them more visible, it's part of the livery.
 
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:04 pm

Also their sister-airline Aeromaritime the same green doors.
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:13 pm

debonair wrote:
VirginFlyer wrote:
I found it interesting that some 747s has door 5 green, and others had it in the blue of the tail.


Also strange to see, that the upper deck exit door was not painted...


The upper deck door was an emergency exit, surely.
 
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:59 pm

AF022 wrote:
i love the UTA livery. the 747 is spectacular.


I agree totally, never got to fly them, didn't they fly nonstop from the USA to French airports like LIL, SXB, TLS, NTE for a brief time before merging with AF?
 
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:35 pm

Also MPL and I think MRS with DC-10's. Unfortunately, these NYC routes infuriated AF which viewed UTA as a directory threat to the CDG hub strategy and a lot of the AF/UT cooperation started to disappear.
 
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:40 pm

eta unknown wrote:
Pointed out in above replies why 747 door 5 was sometimes blue and why the upper deck door stayed white.

Sorry I completely missed the last bit of your post when I read it the first time:

eta unknown wrote:
argentinevol98 wrote:
I wonder why the 743's upper deck emergency door didn't get the same treatment as the others. Seems a little odd that one set of doors would be white and the rest green.

Why do you consider it "odd"? Downstairs you have patches of green as decoration, why ruin the continuity with a green splash upstairs, especially as it would be over the UTA name? BTW, did you note when operated as a combi, the last door was painted blue instead of green.


iRISH251 wrote:
debonair wrote:
VirginFlyer wrote:
I found it interesting that some 747s has door 5 green, and others had it in the blue of the tail.


Also strange to see, that the upper deck exit door was not painted...


The upper deck door was an emergency exit, surely.

The green door is not to do with being emergency exits or not, otherwise door 3 over the wing on the 747s and DC-10s would not be green. As pointed out above, it was a deliberate decision that the green doors would be in line on the main deck.

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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:03 pm

FWIW, The UTA colours of blue and green represented the blue of the ocean (Tahiti, Sydney, Auckland were destinations) and the green of Africa (west, central and south). These were the areas of the world that UTA served.
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i love the UTA livery. the 747 is spectacular.



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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:29 am

Can anyone shed some light on their Hawaii service? Routings, frequencies, a/c type, time period, etc



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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:41 am

I'm 56 and loved this livery as a kid. Was fascinated by the green doors, the billboard UTA (seemed to be the first of it's kind?), the blue tail and the UTA logo at the top of the tail. All screamed modern for me back then. Far flung routes too. Love it! Great thread so far.
 
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:30 am

I remember seeing UTA DC-8’s at Nice about 1975 and this colour scheme was nothing like I’d seen before. The green doors made the livery. Happy days.
 
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Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:49 am

HNL: In the 80's the routing was PPT-HNL-PPT DC-10 once per week.
 
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:12 am

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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:39 am

No green door on the A380 upper deck please! Also, maybe remove the grey underbelly- UTA used an ex AOM DC-10 F-GHOI that was all white below- IMO looked much better than the silver metal- maybe the livery could have been altered to have the blue go all the way down as well!
 
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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:46 am

eta unknown wrote:
No green door on the A380 upper deck please! Also, maybe remove the grey underbelly- UTA used an ex AOM DC-10 F-GHOI that was all white below- IMO looked much better than the silver metal- maybe the livery could have been altered to have the blue go all the way down as well!

Indeed I was thinking the upper deck doors would likely have been left white. These were just images I found using a Google search.

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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:03 am

Meanwhile at the other end of the scale and missing a green door:



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Re: UTA Airlines Green Doors

Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:09 am

Air France, when this is all over please bring back a retro UTA 77W, 789 and A321.
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