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Re: F/As on cargo-only flights?

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Re: F/As on cargo-only flights?

Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:21 pm

When I was an FA at Virgin Atlantic, we often crewed ferry flights. There were around 3-4 FAs onboard for safety and fire check. Also, to look after the flight deck (not used to feeding themselves). These flights were often to/from the Caribbean at the beginning and end of the summer season. Most memorable one is sitting on a drinks tray on the floor...for take off!
 
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:05 pm

So I have a question about some of these PPE flights and I assume it also applies to cargo on pax plane flights pertaining to fight crew. In this report a BA 777 flew 12 hr one way to Shanghai with 7 flight crew.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -help.html
The flight crew is obviously more than the usual number needed for a 12 hr flight. In another report about this flight which I can't find now, it seems to imply the 7 flight crew were split into a separate crew to fly the return leg. Now even if none of the "second" crew were on duty for the first leg at any point and just enjoying the J seats. Does being on a plane, even if off duty, count in some way against rest requirements. I know many crew deadhead or commute "long" distances to get to "work" but is a 12 hr deadhead and then having to be on duty right away to fly the return leg "ok" with the authorities, in this case CAA, or even the flight crew unions?
 
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:52 pm

On any flight with a significant amount of main cabin cargo a loadmaster probably flies with to help with W&B.
 
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:06 pm

I know that the Chinese carriers such as CA, CZ, MU, MF, HU, and 3U bring along cabin crews. Sometimes just 3, while some bring a whole squad. Today I saw Xiamen(MF) made their cabin crews do the off loading of cabin cargo. This way they don't have to get WFS crew to wear PPE and enter the cabin.
 
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Re: F/As on cargo-only flights?

Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:20 pm

FlyDeltaJets wrote:
dm22 wrote:
United is putting FA's in the cabin also.
2 on narrowbodies
4 on widebodies
Only one crewmember can take a rest break at a time. All others must be awake.


We are not flying cargo sections with flight attendants, at least we certainly aren't from SFO


Afa just signed a Letter of Agreement with the company for flights with cargo in the cabin.
 
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Re: F/As on cargo-only flights?

Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:22 pm

Jongum wrote:
FlyDeltaJets wrote:
dm22 wrote:
United is putting FA's in the cabin also.
2 on narrowbodies
4 on widebodies
Only one crewmember can take a rest break at a time. All others must be awake.


We are not flying cargo sections with flight attendants, at least we certainly aren't from SFO


It's only required if there is cargo in the cabin.



Isn't that what was being discussed? Cargo in the cabin
 
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Re: F/As on cargo-only flights?

Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:32 pm

ericm2031 wrote:
For the US, I'm not sure there is much in the pilot and F/A contracts regarding cargo-only flights, but I know the pilots do have provisions to be fed by the F/As in most contracts, so this is probably why they are being used.

Also, looks like AS is going to have cargo in seats and will have F/A's onboard to watch over the cargo, awaiting FAA approval.

https://www.king5.com/article/tech/scie ... e1175b14e9



Nooooo...the flight attendants will be onboard for fire suppression since the cabin is not properly equipped; not to feed the pilots.
 
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Re: F/As on cargo-only flights?

Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:08 pm

dm22 wrote:
Nooooo...the flight attendants will be onboard for fire suppression since the cabin is not properly equipped; not to feed the pilots.

But has anyone told the pilots? I can see a flight or two canceled due to insufficient caloric intake upfront :stirthepot: :scratchchin:
 
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Re: F/As on cargo-only flights?

Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:14 pm

blueflyer wrote:
dm22 wrote:
Nooooo...the flight attendants will be onboard for fire suppression since the cabin is not properly equipped; not to feed the pilots.

But has anyone told the pilots? I can see a flight or two canceled due to insufficient caloric intake upfront :stirthepot: :scratchchin:



Well, I'm sure if the pilots ask real nice, the flight attendants might do them a solid. :)
 
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:15 am

Air Canada 77W YYZ-BOS-YYZ continued tonight. Not sure if this is the end of it, though.
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:20 am

Heard through a friend that works for AC that they are using Aircraft Maintenance Engineers for the flights that have cargo in the cabin,
 
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:37 am

UA has scheduled more than 1,000 total cargo-only flights for the May schedule month. Additionally, passenger service resumes on some TATL/TPAC markets which can also support belly cargo.

Cargo only
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:32 am

KL is joining the cargo-in-the cabin party
Trial flight completed on KL897 with a 77W AMS - PVG

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/klm_klm- ... 80384-i5Pc
 
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:19 pm

Tianjin is expected to get a visit by an interesting duo over the weekend. Antonov Airlines expects to have two airplanes visiting:
An-225 Mriya UR-82060
An-22 Antei UR-09307
There is a chance they could be there simultaneously, which means world's largest jet airplane and largest turboprop will be on the same tarmac together. Doesn't happen very often outside of Ukraine.
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:57 pm

Airbus has EASA approved pallet conversion for main deck
20 airlines interested

https://www.flightglobal.com/air-transp ... 61.article
 
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:02 pm

trex8 wrote:
Airbus has EASA approved pallet conversion for main deck
20 airlines interested

https://www.flightglobal.com/air-transp ... 61.article


Is this what LOT is trying to get Boeing to do on the 787s? One thing I can’t figure out is how does the pallet fit thru the door or is it two narrow ones next to each other?
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:07 pm

Phosphorus wrote:
Tianjin is expected to get a visit by an interesting duo over the weekend. Antonov Airlines expects to have two airplanes visiting:
An-225 Mriya UR-82060
An-22 Antei UR-09307
There is a chance they could be there simultaneously, which means world's largest jet airplane and largest turboprop will be on the same tarmac together. Doesn't happen very often outside of Ukraine.


The An-225 seems to be headed for Anchorage (ANC)... anyone know where it's going after that?
 
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:09 pm

After Anchorage, it's Montreal. ANC seems to be a major stop for Antonovs crossing the pond- Volga Dnepr AN124 was there this morning, haven't looked since.
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:21 pm

SRQLOT wrote:
trex8 wrote:
Airbus has EASA approved pallet conversion for main deck
20 airlines interested

https://www.flightglobal.com/air-transp ... 61.article


Is this what LOT is trying to get Boeing to do on the 787s? One thing I can’t figure out is how does the pallet fit thru the door or is it two narrow ones next to each other?
It's a PKC pallet like the ones used in A320 holds. The base of this type of pallet is 153 cm x 156 cm / 60 in x 62 in.
 
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:38 pm

SRQLOT wrote:
trex8 wrote:
Airbus has EASA approved pallet conversion for main deck
20 airlines interested

https://www.flightglobal.com/air-transp ... 61.article


Is this what LOT is trying to get Boeing to do on the 787s? One thing I can’t figure out is how does the pallet fit thru the door or is it two narrow ones next to each other?


Its only a PKC pallet, which usually is whats often used in belly A320/321. Only 60 x62 in so will fit through doors, might be a little squeeze around any fixed galleys, toilets but obviously they must have checked it would work with most cabin fittings used.
Someone somewhere on some thread mentioned something about the 787 carbon fiber floor being an issue but it makes no sense to me that you can put 3 large people into a triple seat set and not be able to put the same weight into a comparable area on the floor with a flat pallet.
This PKC pallet per article will take 260kg, it seems it should take up the space of 2 rows of a triple seat. I mean you could easily have 100kg person in each seat, even with tare weight 30-40kgs seems they are being quite conservative.
Once the pallets are fixed to the seat rails, you have to hand load them through the door. They can't load the pallet and then bring it through the door. At 260kg max and 2.7m3, its <100kg/m3. Well under the average "cargo density". Essentially PPE, mail and light stuff.
 
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Fri May 01, 2020 4:05 am

yesterday HKG had a RoyalFlight 752 pickup up some stuff
 
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Fri May 01, 2020 7:02 pm

Malaysian airlines cargo division MasKargo uses A380 for cargo only flights, because A350 is too small?? Not clear if they used main deck.
https://www.aircargonews.net/airlines/b ... ght-first/
 
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Lots of PVG (Shanghai) - MEX flights everyday, medical supplies?

Fri May 01, 2020 7:28 pm

I just noticed on FR24 tracking trans-Pacific flights that AM (Aeromexico) is flying multiple dailies of PVG (Shanghai Pudong) - MEX (Mexico City) flights. Ever since AM pulled out of passenger service to PVG (and only left with NRT & ICN as its Asian destinations pre-Corona-virus), are these cargo flights for PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) from China to Mexico?
 
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Re: Lots of PVG (Shanghai) - MEX flights everyday, medical supplies?

Fri May 01, 2020 7:49 pm

Short answer is yes.
 
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Re: Lots of PVG (Shanghai) - MEX flights everyday, medical supplies?

Fri May 01, 2020 9:03 pm

AM has been transporting medical supplies from PVG to not only MEX but GUA, SAL and SJO as well.
 
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Re: Lots of PVG (Shanghai) - MEX flights everyday, medical supplies?

Fri May 01, 2020 9:33 pm

AM has been chartering out its fleet of 787s for cargo only flights in order to bring in revenue. The Mexican government established an airbridge between MEX and PVG to bring much needed medical equipment (N-95 mask, ventilators, etc.) into the country and chartered a total of 20 787 flights from AM for cargo only MEX-NRT-PVG-MEX service. Due to its ability to deliver service in Latin America, AM was also hired by other health authorities through DHL to fly supplies from China to Costa Rica, Guatemala, El Salvador, and Brazil.

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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Sat May 02, 2020 1:18 am

A380 can only take 10 pallets (PMCsize) , same as A330 and 1 less than a A350. Unless they were filling up lots of seats with boxes seems like a big waste of fuel.
 
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Sat May 02, 2020 1:36 am

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Perfectly legal at ANC. They have a special cargo exemption that allows change of gage operations.



would repackaging a main deck pallet in ANC from a 747 to go underfloor on smaller gauge plane (and vice versa) be permissible?
 
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Sat May 02, 2020 1:49 am

trex8 wrote:
A380 can only take 10 pallets (PMCsize) , same as A330 and 1 less than a A350. Unless they were filling up lots of seats with boxes seems like a big waste of fuel.

Unless they are also using the flights to keep their pilots current on the type. Look at the choice Asians has to make now. With grounded fleet and no sim.
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Sat May 02, 2020 7:18 am

Some more Air CARGO NEWS:

1. LATAM commencing Brasil - China B77W CARGO ONLY operations this week:

- May 2, 2020 - JJ9516 77W PT-MUJ GRU - AMS - PVG
- May 4, 2020 - JJ9516 77W PT-MUC GRU - AMS - CAN
- May 5, 2020 - JJ9516 77W PT-MUE GRU - AMS - PVG

2 Also an interesting LATAM A359 flight SAP-LHR (from San Pedro Sula) today:

https://www.flightradar24.com/TAM9521/246f83d5

3. While MAS Kargo is re-opening KUL-AMS Freighter service this week on A332F.
 
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Re: F/As on cargo-only flights?

Sat May 02, 2020 2:49 pm

Cory6188 wrote:
Given the increase in the number of cargo-only flights being operated by conventional passenger airlines, do these flights have any sort of a requirement for cabin crew? Can the pilots operate a flight as the only crew on board?

I realize that the likes of UPS, FedEx, and DHL don't have cabin crew, but I'd be curious as to what the regulations are for a passenger airline operating cargo-only flights.


I think I saw a tweet from Swiss that featured an FA on a cargo in the passenger cabin flight. I think the fire suppression regulations require a flight attendant.
 
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Re: Lots of PVG (Shanghai) - MEX flights everyday, medical supplies?

Sun May 03, 2020 5:53 am

x1234 wrote:
(and only left with NRT & ICN as its Asian destinations pre-Corona-virus)


Not just pre-Coronavirus. AM just resumed passenger flights to ICN yesterday and maintained NRT since the pandemic began, albeit at reduced frequencies.

https://aeromexico.com/en-ca/notificati ... passengers
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Mon May 04, 2020 4:32 pm

I've heard rumors on other forums (not A.net) that the AN-225 would be flying to Ontario, California (ONT/KONT) for medical supplies. Can anybody confirm/deny this or give a time table on when it should come? I would assume middle to late May at the earliest as it's flying back to Ukraine right now for some down time. Much appreciated.
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Mon May 04, 2020 9:25 pm

CI had 30% more revenue than BR in March due to cargo (almost double BRs). CI flew 22% more FTKs than Jan! (and 5% more than last year and 30% more revenue than last year).
Interesting that BR flew 38% more RPK but only had 19% more pax revenue. Yields must suck big time.

Me thinks CI should reactivate the remaining two stored 744Fs at VCV if they haven't been totally stripped of everything!

When are their 777Fs due for delivery? They cant keep operating those 744Fs for ever, starting this year the Taiwan CAA will not let anything over 26 years old remain on the register.

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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Mon May 04, 2020 9:41 pm

trex8 wrote:
Me thinks CI should reactivate the remaining two stored 744Fs at VCV if they haven't been totally stripped of everything!

When are their 777Fs due for delivery?


B-18702, B-18703 (the two stored 744Fs at VCV) are not stripped (I have seen them myself a few months ago). Despite this, they do not have engines and would likely require a decent amount of work to get them back in the air. As far as I know, they are still stored and there is no work being done to bring them into service.

No one really knows when their 777Fs are due, the same question has been asked repeatedly in the 777 production thread.
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Tue May 05, 2020 10:57 am

This is a nice news article on how the Queen of the Skies - the 747 - is now the Queen of the Freighters, playing an important role during the pandemic: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... 13BdK0_1|3
 
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Tue May 05, 2020 3:07 pm

Antonov Design Bureau AN-124 UR-82009 bringing in some needed PPE to LA from PVG with a stopover in ANC. Interesting to note: This is the ONLY AN-124 with chevrons on the engines.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ur-82009
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

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Tue May 05, 2020 8:00 pm

Having been in MIA recently - it appeared as though LATAM was using a passenger 787 for cargo-only flights. Also, heard a confused LAX air traffic controller the other night when a passenger Emirates 777 landed and told the tower he was operating a cargo flight.
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Tue May 05, 2020 8:08 pm

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passenger Emirates 777 landed and told the tower he was operating a cargo flight.


Yup, Emirates (77W), Qatar (77W), Avianca (788), Hainan (788/789/A333), China Airlines (A359/77W), China Eastern (A332/77W), Fiji (A359), Air New Zealand (77W), Virgin Atlantic (789/A35K), United (77W/789), Delta (772), American (77W), Korean Air (77W/789), Asiana (A359), Etihad (77W), Air Canada (789/77W tomorrow), and Sichuan Airlines (A359) have all ran cargo flights with passenger aircraft through LAX. Crazy times for LA, LA spotters, and the world as a whole.

In the specific case of Emirates, they route their aircraft, which has always been a 777-300ER from either HKG or DXB to LA, then fly to DXB.
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Tue May 05, 2020 8:21 pm

The Wall Street Journal has an article on the topic.

"..Available freight capacity on passenger planes in March was still down around 44% from a year ago, according to the air transport association. While dedicated air freighters added more flights, total air-cargo capacity was down 25% versus the prior year in March, the most recent data available..."

"...“The cost of moving that cargo is almost going up day by day,” said Paul Golland, owner of PG Logistics, a freight-forwarding business in Australia. “You used to get a quote valid for 30 days. Now you’re getting it valid for 24 hours, because tomorrow the situation may change again..."

Shipping Something Overseas? You Can Do It Fast or Cheap, but Not Both
With passenger flights at a virtual standstill, corporate and individual shippers face long waits, higher costs
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Tue May 05, 2020 8:23 pm

VCVSpotter wrote:

In the specific case of Emirates, they route their aircraft, which has always been a 777-300ER from either HKG or DXB to LA, then fly to DXB.


Apparently EMIRATES plans to operate DXB-AMS-LAX for the next two days at least:

- May 6, 2020: EK2563 DXB-AMS-LAX B77W A6-EQK
- May 7, 2020: EK215 DXB-AMS-LAX 77W
 
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Tue May 05, 2020 8:30 pm

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canyonblue17 wrote:
passenger Emirates 777 landed and told the tower he was operating a cargo flight.


In the specific case of Emirates, they route their aircraft, which has always been a 777-300ER from either HKG or DXB to LA, then fly to DXB.


You nailed it. It was a 777-300ER into LAX and it was from HKG.
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Tue May 05, 2020 8:49 pm

Air Canada 777-300ER C-FRAM flying a cargo flight YVR-LAX-YYZ tonight/tomorrow morning. Inbound is AC7150 at 5:41PM Pacific, outbound is AC7230 at 7AM Pacific tomorrow (May 6).

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-fram
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Wed May 06, 2020 12:40 am

FEMA has chartered a Volga Dnepr AN-124 for a PPE run. Flight will originate in PVG or NKG, stop over at ANC, and land at BWI. This flight will occur 2 times over the period between May 8 and May 18.

Source (Download PDF): https://www.regulations.gov/document?D= ... -0044-0788
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Wed May 06, 2020 1:19 am

Avianca is opertating only cargo throught its subsidiary airline AviancaCargo Formely named Tampa Cargo
 
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Re: Lots of PVG (Shanghai) - MEX flights everyday, medical supplies?

Wed May 06, 2020 2:40 pm

LatinPlane wrote:
AM has been chartering out its fleet of 787s for cargo only flights in order to bring in revenue. The Mexican government established an airbridge between MEX and PVG to bring much needed medical equipment (N-95 mask, ventilators, etc.) into the country and chartered a total of 20 787 flights from AM for cargo only MEX-NRT-PVG-MEX service. Due to its ability to deliver service in Latin America, AM was also hired by other health authorities through DHL to fly supplies from China to Costa Rica, Guatemala, El Salvador, and Brazil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR5ZiIJRmDI


Took this picture last week in La Aurora, tomorrow we will have another flight with XA-ADC 787-9

Fotografos de Aviacion de Guatemala. Spotter.
https://www.facebook.com/Fot%C3%B3grafo ... 661476921/
 
factsonly
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Sat May 09, 2020 9:44 am

An interesting incident on a LATAM Brasil B77W cargo only flight operating GRU - AMS - PVG this May 8th, 2020.

The B77W aircraft PT-MUJ operated the very first LATAM cargo only charter flight from Brasil to China, not a regular destination for LATAM Brasil.
The chosen routing was GRU - AMS - PVG, as AMS is LATAM's Freighter crew station in Europe, with a daily B767F SCL-MIA-AMS-FRA-SID-GRU routing.

The aircraft departed GRU on May 3rd for AMS, but got stuck at AMS for 4 days before getting all required permissions to continue its journey to PVG.
The flight AMS-PVG routed over Kazakhstan to China, however on approaching the Kazak-Chinese border, the crew was informed to hold until the flight was cleared to enter Chinese airspace.
PT-MUJ held for 1,5 hrs at 35.000ft before getting permission to enter Chinese airspace and proceed to PVG.
Overall flight time AMS - PVG was 13 hrs. 04 mins. for LATAM, while all regular flights AMS - PVG take 10 hrs.

- 08 May 2020 PVG - AMS JJ9518 B77W PT-MUJ Scheduled
- 07 May 2020 AMS - PVG JJ9517 B77W PT-MUJ 13:04hrs en-route Landed
- 03 May 2020 GRU - AMS JJ9516 B77W PT-MUJ Landed

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... j#2477c5bc

Today, May 8th, LATAM Brasil has two more B77W sitting at AMS, waiting for permission to proceed to PVG:

- 06 May 2020 GRU - AMS JJ9516 B77W PT-MUE Landed
- 07 May 2020 GRU - AMS JJ9516 B77W PT-MUI Landed
 
mxaxai
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Fri May 15, 2020 11:39 am

Haven't seen this posted here: https://www.freightwaves.com/news/db-sc ... enger-jets
German rail (and truck) logistics group DB Schenker is chartering 3 Icelandair Boeing 767-300ER without seats for services PVG-MUC, 12x weekly throughout May.
 
factsonly
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Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Sat May 16, 2020 8:08 pm

GARUDA operates to Bogota, Colombia on May 16-17, 2020.

Following an earlier GARUDA B77W service to Brasil, CGK-AMS-GRU, GARUDA today operates a B77W Cargo flight routing CGK-DEL-AMS-BOG-AMS-CGK.

- May 16: GA8800 CGK-DEL B77W PK-GIH
- May 17: GA8800 DEL-AMS B77W PK-GIH
- May 17: GA 8800 AMS-BOG B77W PK-GIH

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/pk-gih

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