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ThePointblank
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:31 am

blueflyer wrote:
PWA732 wrote:
No, the Max is not dead at AC. We are in the process of installing millions of dollars worth of dual HUD's in each aircraft. All 737 pilots are undergoing HUD training in our two simulators in Toronto as we speak. If we were getting rid of them, I see this as adding little value to the frames, as few operators will use them, or need them.

Curious, what makes the HUD valuable to Air Canada but apparently near-worthless for other operators?

I am suspecting it is the Rockwell Collins HGS-6000 HUD, which is the apparently the same system that got Boeing into a ton of trouble recently with the FAA for installing them despite not been tested or approved as compatible with the 737 series.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:50 am

Here is a list of the flights operated by the AC family for April 2020

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-22mar20/

I see that some flights are operated by AC rouge. I understood that all AC rouge flight attendants were to be laid off... Will AC mainline be working those AC rouge flights? Or maybe the AC rouge layoffs are in effect from May 2020.
Next flights: YQM-YUL-YVR-YUL-YQM / YQM-YYZ-HKG-DXB-BCN-YUL-YQM
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:37 am

PWA732 wrote:
No, the Max is not dead at AC. We are in the process of installing millions of dollars worth of dual HUD's in each aircraft. All 737 pilots are undergoing HUD training in our two simulators in Toronto as we speak. If we were getting rid of them, I see this as adding little value to the frames, as few operators will use them, or need them. Training and installation are both happening right now.

P.


Last week changed fleet plans in a matter of days which is almost unprecedented in history. If it is still going in a month or two, then I would agree - however, management may have been a little pre-occupied last week working on other issues.
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:10 pm

blueflyer wrote:
PWA732 wrote:
No, the Max is not dead at AC. We are in the process of installing millions of dollars worth of dual HUD's in each aircraft. All 737 pilots are undergoing HUD training in our two simulators in Toronto as we speak. If we were getting rid of them, I see this as adding little value to the frames, as few operators will use them, or need them.

Curious, what makes the HUD valuable to Air Canada but apparently near-worthless for other operators?


The training required and regulatory approvals to use them. You can't just flip it down and turn it on. They require days of sim training.

Air Canada installed them to increase the SA of both pilots.

Pete.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:17 pm

PWA732 wrote:
blueflyer wrote:
PWA732 wrote:
No, the Max is not dead at AC. We are in the process of installing millions of dollars worth of dual HUD's in each aircraft. All 737 pilots are undergoing HUD training in our two simulators in Toronto as we speak. If we were getting rid of them, I see this as adding little value to the frames, as few operators will use them, or need them.

Curious, what makes the HUD valuable to Air Canada but apparently near-worthless for other operators?


The training required and regulatory approvals to use them. You can't just flip it down and turn it on. They require days of sim training.

Air Canada installed them to increase the SA of both pilots.

Pete.


I wonder if Halifax had something to do with it...

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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:24 pm

matt wrote:
Here is a list of the flights operated by the AC family for April 2020

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-22mar20/

I see that some flights are operated by AC rouge. I understood that all AC rouge flight attendants were to be laid off... Will AC mainline be working those AC rouge flights? Or maybe the AC rouge layoffs are in effect from May 2020.


Interesting to see that there's no 777 flying at all, unless they plan to operate dedicated cargo flights with those or use them domestically by consolidating capacity on transcon routes. It also shows a couple of non-Rouge 767-300s flying which is unexpected, I thought AC would use the opportunity to put them out to pasture, but I guess there's still some life left in them.

Only one A333 route as well, at least internationally. I suspect some domestic with them as well. I'm curious to see the domestic schedules.

Beech
 
shoelessjoe
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:11 pm

3 additional frames to CYQG today - mainline 320, mainline 321, Rouge 319.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:23 pm

I was looking at VCV today on Flight Aware and notice AC had a 787 leave for Toronto. Everything else was inbound.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:31 am

beechnut wrote:
matt wrote:
Here is a list of the flights operated by the AC family for April 2020

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-22mar20/

I see that some flights are operated by AC rouge. I understood that all AC rouge flight attendants were to be laid off... Will AC mainline be working those AC rouge flights? Or maybe the AC rouge layoffs are in effect from May 2020.


Interesting to see that there's no 777 flying at all, unless they plan to operate dedicated cargo flights with those or use them domestically by consolidating capacity on transcon routes. It also shows a couple of non-Rouge 767-300s flying which is unexpected, I thought AC would use the opportunity to put them out to pasture, but I guess there's still some life left in them.

Only one A333 route as well, at least internationally. I suspect some domestic with them as well. I'm curious to see the domestic schedules.

Beech


There's some domestic 333 flying in the April schedule with YUL-YVR 2x daily and YYZ-YHZ daily. I imagine the latter must be primarily for lobster hauling.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:25 pm

Is AC also opening B77W TATL Freighter service?:

- 24 Mar 2020 dep. 18.55 YYZ - AMS 07.30 AC7154 B77W

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ac7154
 
shoelessjoe
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:58 pm

Additional mainline A321 and Rouge A319 to CYQG today. I believe the total stored at YQG is up to 8.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:57 pm

shoelessjoe wrote:
Additional mainline A321 and Rouge A319 to CYQG today. I believe the total stored at YQG is up to 8.


While a bit off topic, I believe that the entire WG fleet is now parked at YKF.

jimbo737 wrote:
Whiteguy wrote:
Airlinerdude wrote:

Just to clarify, I have nothing against Longhauler. I find his posts very informative about many aspects, namely the operations side. Like you I appreciate all of his contributions and enjoy the debate it sparks. But I would call anyone out on spreading misinformation that is unequivocally incorrect. In case you can't tell, he and I both have a vested interest in AC remaining a viable employer!

The facts are, AC's loads are very poor across all three cabins and across the entire network. I personally wouldn't be surprised to a further reduction in the flying program announced next week. Some of the routes are simply unviable as per the latest schedule. I see a contraction to just a few transcon routes and maybe a few regional routes, to carry whats left of those wanting to travel and freight.


So what’s the point in getting in a pissing match then? He’s getting information from a different source, one you don’t have access to, and answering Jimbo! Another one looking for a listing match, and to much time on his hands while in quarantine. AC, like many other airlines, is trying to save their operation while also trying to help get people home while they can. Why question which operation and aircraft they seem fit to use?


Jimbo is focused on start up number 4 and never has enough time. The venture has been fully capitalized for quite some time and very fortunately has no expenses of consequences to contend with through this horribly ugly situation.


Yes indeed Breeze are very lucky.
 
beechnut
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:02 am

factsonly wrote:
Is AC also opening B77W TATL Freighter service?:

- 24 Mar 2020 dep. 18.55 YYZ - AMS 07.30 AC7154 B77W

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ac7154


Curious indeed. Googling it shows the info above, and one hit lists it as a Jazz flight... go figure. Repatriation flight? Cargo flight? Medical supply flight?
 
pictues1981
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:42 am

I would also suspect that Air Canada may try and paint a few extra planes during this time if they can get the hanger space
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:01 am

pictues1981 wrote:
I would also suspect that Air Canada may try and paint a few extra planes during this time if they can get the hanger space



I would suspect that Air Canada wants to preserve cash and not spend on paint aircraft unless deemed necessary from an airworthiness perspective.
 
beechnut
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:32 am

I found this interesting tidbit from the Air Canada Cargo site:

https://www.aircanada.com/cargo/en/news ... 324_0.html

It seems AC is offering cargo-only flights on the 777 and 789, on an on-demand basis.

That might explain the 77W making its way to AMS.

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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:12 am

factsonly wrote:
Is AC also opening B77W TATL Freighter service?:

- 24 Mar 2020 dep. 18.55 YYZ - AMS 07.30 AC7154 B77W

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ac7154


see my post #56 - only cargo using a 77W

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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:26 am

Thenoflyzone wrote:
SpaceshipDC10 wrote:

77W C-FIVX was flown as AC7066 YYZ-YHZ yesterday, and today it's on its way as AC7050 YHZ-CMN. Any reason for the Halifax stop?.


Just a guess here, but it might be to limit the total flight time, especially for cabin crew, which most likely operated both outbound and inbound flights. There were also 4 pilots on board, based on the twitter pic of the crew. In/out of CMN, no crew left behind.

https://twitter.com/AirCanada/status/12 ... 16/photo/1


I see on Flightradar24 that C-FNOE (789) is currently operating YHZ-BCN as AC7052. Most likely returning right back to YYZ. Again, it’s most likely leaving from YHZ because of the crew (max. No of hours). Basically a « turn-around » for crew: no crew left behind.
Next flights: YQM-YUL-YVR-YUL-YQM / YQM-YYZ-HKG-DXB-BCN-YUL-YQM
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:34 pm

matt wrote:
I see on Flightradar24 that C-FNOE (789) is currently operating YHZ-BCN as AC7052. Most likely returning right back to YYZ. Again, it’s most likely leaving from YHZ because of the crew (max. No of hours). Basically a « turn-around » for crew: no crew left behind.


Inbound flight is scheduled to arrive at 17:30, and outbound AC2007 should depart at 18:50 with an ETA at YYZ 21:46.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:51 pm

SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
matt wrote:
I see on Flightradar24 that C-FNOE (789) is currently operating YHZ-BCN as AC7052. Most likely returning right back to YYZ. Again, it’s most likely leaving from YHZ because of the crew (max. No of hours). Basically a « turn-around » for crew: no crew left behind.


Inbound flight is scheduled to arrive at 17:30, and outbound AC2007 should depart at 18:50 with an ETA at YYZ 21:46.


And there is also AC7050 that just left YHZ for CMN (77W, C-FNNW) a little less than 2 hours ago.
Next flights: YQM-YUL-YVR-YUL-YQM / YQM-YYZ-HKG-DXB-BCN-YUL-YQM
 
chrisa330
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:10 pm

The BCN and CMN flights are repatriation flights to bring Canadians home. There was a flight to LIM yesterday, and there will be some UIO flights as well.
 
shoelessjoe
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:27 pm

Additional Rouge A319 to YQG today.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:46 pm

Just anecdotal evidence on my part but they seem to be really good at optimizing traffic flow. My flight originally slated YYZ-LHR (787-9) with an onward connection for Saturday was first changed to a non-stop YYZ-FRA on Monday (AC876 - the later of the two evening flights, 77W 450seats), which was then cancelled and changed to AC876 yesterday (Tuesday, 77W 450seats). Flight was full in Eco and Premium Eco, Business at 50%, lots of Germans flying home. We seemed to be loading quite a bit of freight, too.

BTW, loads of A320s (mainline and Rouge), 767s (Rouge), CRJs (Air Canada Express) parked at YYZ.
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:16 pm

shoelessjoe wrote:
Additional Rouge A319 to YQG today.


I noticed it leaving YUL this morning on Flightaware.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:26 pm

matt wrote:
And there is also AC7050 that just left YHZ for CMN (77W, C-FNNW) a little less than 2 hours ago.


It's the third such flight.

March 21, 23 and 25th.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ac7050
us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:36 pm

SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
matt wrote:
I see on Flightradar24 that C-FNOE (789) is currently operating YHZ-BCN as AC7052. Most likely returning right back to YYZ. Again, it’s most likely leaving from YHZ because of the crew (max. No of hours). Basically a « turn-around » for crew: no crew left behind.


Inbound flight is scheduled to arrive at 17:30, and outbound AC2007 should depart at 18:50 with an ETA at YYZ 21:46.


AC2007 is on its way to Canada, with ATD 19:13.

https://www.flightradar24.com/ACA2007/2445a1b0
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:06 pm

787-8 are going to MCI.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:14 pm

Looks like there are a number of planes leaving tomorrow morning for MZJ, MLB, SAT

MLB
AC2334 A321
ZX2364 A321 rouge
ZX2362 A319 rouge
ZX2368 a319 rouge

SAT
AC2341 788
AC2343 789
AC2345 789

MZJ
AC2337 773
AC2339 773
 
Airlinerdude
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:14 pm

According to CTV, 8 of Sky Regional's E175s are parked at Muskoka Airport (YQA):

Muskoka Airport currently has eight Air Canada Embraer 175 passenger jets parked on its grounds, not something you typically see this time of year.


https://barrie.ctvnews.ca/muskoka-airpo ... -1.4869667
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:46 pm

Airlinerdude wrote:
The facts are, AC's loads are very poor across all three cabins and across the entire network. I personally wouldn't be surprised to a further reduction in the flying program announced next week. Some of the routes are simply unviable as per the latest schedule. I see a contraction to just a few transcon routes and maybe a few regional routes, to carry whats left of those wanting to travel and freight.


As anticipated, frequencies are being reduced even further since the last released schedule linked below. Pretty much every multi-frequency North American route has lost at least 1 or 2 daily frequencies come April 1. Hopefully we'll see an airlineroute posting or an official AC announcement with the latest reductions. I still believe there's more to come as loads are looking terrible for what's remaining.

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/hom ... caen#/na-1
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:40 pm

Airlinerdude wrote:
Airlinerdude wrote:
The facts are, AC's loads are very poor across all three cabins and across the entire network. I personally wouldn't be surprised to a further reduction in the flying program announced next week. Some of the routes are simply unviable as per the latest schedule. I see a contraction to just a few transcon routes and maybe a few regional routes, to carry whats left of those wanting to travel and freight.


As anticipated, frequencies are being reduced even further since the last released schedule linked below. Pretty much every multi-frequency North American route has lost at least 1 or 2 daily frequencies come April 1. Hopefully we'll see an airlineroute posting or an official AC announcement with the latest reductions. I still believe there's more to come as loads are looking terrible for what's remaining.

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/hom ... caen#/na-1


Yup they’re cutting to the bone. YOW has everything cut except YYZ and YUL now. A week ago YFC, YHZ, YYC, YEG and YVR were all still on the schedule. In fact YOW-YVR is still showing daily in the list but it’s not bookable.

Imagine this, WS will be serving more destinations from YOW than AC, namely YYC, YYZ and 1x weekly YHZ. Although temporary, I never thought I’d see the day WS has more cities than AC at YOW.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:35 pm

Dominion301 wrote:
Airlinerdude wrote:
Airlinerdude wrote:
The facts are, AC's loads are very poor across all three cabins and across the entire network. I personally wouldn't be surprised to a further reduction in the flying program announced next week. Some of the routes are simply unviable as per the latest schedule. I see a contraction to just a few transcon routes and maybe a few regional routes, to carry whats left of those wanting to travel and freight.


As anticipated, frequencies are being reduced even further since the last released schedule linked below. Pretty much every multi-frequency North American route has lost at least 1 or 2 daily frequencies come April 1. Hopefully we'll see an airlineroute posting or an official AC announcement with the latest reductions. I still believe there's more to come as loads are looking terrible for what's remaining.

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/hom ... caen#/na-1


Yup they’re cutting to the bone. YOW has everything cut except YYZ and YUL now. A week ago YFC, YHZ, YYC, YEG and YVR were all still on the schedule. In fact YOW-YVR is still showing daily in the list but it’s not bookable.

Imagine this, WS will be serving more destinations from YOW than AC, namely YYC, YYZ and 1x weekly YHZ. Although temporary, I never thought I’d see the day WS has more cities than AC at YOW.


They're cutting so much it's crazy. Also seems they're having some serious reservation issues still. Had a booking YOW-YWG for tomorrow 28MAR, originally booked AC8527 YOWYG, 1625 departure, and was rebooked AC8548 YOWYUL 1100-1142L, then time travelling backwards and catching AC481 YULYYZ 0600-0720, and then connecting onto AC259 YYZYWG 0815-0948.
Had other bookings YWGYOW that were originally booked AC8524 YWGYOW direct, and then was rebooked to an evening flight YWGYEG, then connecting YEGYVR, overnight in YVR, then YVR-YYZ the following morning, followed by a 12 hour layover and then the last flight YYZYOW that night, turning what should be a 2 hour trip into a multi day trek across the country. Needless to say, those bookings got cancelled. Now if only they'd refund them instead of just giving a credit....
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:34 pm

diverted wrote:
Dominion301 wrote:
Airlinerdude wrote:

As anticipated, frequencies are being reduced even further since the last released schedule linked below. Pretty much every multi-frequency North American route has lost at least 1 or 2 daily frequencies come April 1. Hopefully we'll see an airlineroute posting or an official AC announcement with the latest reductions. I still believe there's more to come as loads are looking terrible for what's remaining.

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/hom ... caen#/na-1


Yup they’re cutting to the bone. YOW has everything cut except YYZ and YUL now. A week ago YFC, YHZ, YYC, YEG and YVR were all still on the schedule. In fact YOW-YVR is still showing daily in the list but it’s not bookable.

Imagine this, WS will be serving more destinations from YOW than AC, namely YYC, YYZ and 1x weekly YHZ. Although temporary, I never thought I’d see the day WS has more cities than AC at YOW.


They're cutting so much it's crazy. Also seems they're having some serious reservation issues still. Had a booking YOW-YWG for tomorrow 28MAR, originally booked AC8527 YOWYG, 1625 departure, and was rebooked AC8548 YOWYUL 1100-1142L, then time travelling backwards and catching AC481 YULYYZ 0600-0720, and then connecting onto AC259 YYZYWG 0815-0948.
Had other bookings YWGYOW that were originally booked AC8524 YWGYOW direct, and then was rebooked to an evening flight YWGYEG, then connecting YEGYVR, overnight in YVR, then YVR-YYZ the following morning, followed by a 12 hour layover and then the last flight YYZYOW that night, turning what should be a 2 hour trip into a multi day trek across the country. Needless to say, those bookings got cancelled. Now if only they'd refund them instead of just giving a credit....


Not surprising. One thing's guaranteed, you'll now need to connect to get to YWG. I did a search of AC's schedule this morning and domestic appears to be fully updated, while transborder is only partially updated. Of note, most mainline flights are exclusively A320 with the following exceptions:
--> YOW-YYZ (6 or 7x) & YYZ-DEN (1x) are exclusively E90s and these are the only E90 routes;
--> YYZ-LAX 1x daily is the only 767 (mainline) route;
--> YYZ-YVR is the only other mainline route without any 320s with 321s, a 789 and a 77L;
--> YWG-YYZ 1x daily is the only 319 I could find;
--> One A330 route - 1 of 2 daily YUL-YVR
--> YQT-YYZ 1x daily is the only Rouge route remaining and on an RV 321. Makes sense that 1x daily is still Rouge in order to keep the AOC active; and
--> A220s are on YUL-YYC, YUL-YEG, YYZ-YYC and YYZ-YEG 1x daily each.

The DH1s are gone and all DH3s appear to be in the east. Also, AC have now announced irregardless of the COVID-19 situation, that Sarnia service (that is currently suspended) is gone for good...DH1 and BEH loss victim like Lethbridge and Medicine Hat.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:33 pm

Dominion301 wrote:
diverted wrote:
Dominion301 wrote:

Yup they’re cutting to the bone. YOW has everything cut except YYZ and YUL now. A week ago YFC, YHZ, YYC, YEG and YVR were all still on the schedule. In fact YOW-YVR is still showing daily in the list but it’s not bookable.

Imagine this, WS will be serving more destinations from YOW than AC, namely YYC, YYZ and 1x weekly YHZ. Although temporary, I never thought I’d see the day WS has more cities than AC at YOW.


They're cutting so much it's crazy. Also seems they're having some serious reservation issues still. Had a booking YOW-YWG for tomorrow 28MAR, originally booked AC8527 YOWYG, 1625 departure, and was rebooked AC8548 YOWYUL 1100-1142L, then time travelling backwards and catching AC481 YULYYZ 0600-0720, and then connecting onto AC259 YYZYWG 0815-0948.
Had other bookings YWGYOW that were originally booked AC8524 YWGYOW direct, and then was rebooked to an evening flight YWGYEG, then connecting YEGYVR, overnight in YVR, then YVR-YYZ the following morning, followed by a 12 hour layover and then the last flight YYZYOW that night, turning what should be a 2 hour trip into a multi day trek across the country. Needless to say, those bookings got cancelled. Now if only they'd refund them instead of just giving a credit....


Not surprising. One thing's guaranteed, you'll now need to connect to get to YWG. I did a search of AC's schedule this morning and domestic appears to be fully updated, while transborder is only partially updated. Of note, most mainline flights are exclusively A320 with the following exceptions:
--> YOW-YYZ (6 or 7x) & YYZ-DEN (1x) are exclusively E90s and these are the only E90 routes;
--> YYZ-LAX 1x daily is the only 767 (mainline) route;
--> YYZ-YVR is the only other mainline route without any 320s with 321s, a 789 and a 77L;
--> YWG-YYZ 1x daily is the only 319 I could find;
--> One A330 route - 1 of 2 daily YUL-YVR
--> YQT-YYZ 1x daily is the only Rouge route remaining and on an RV 321. Makes sense that 1x daily is still Rouge in order to keep the AOC active; and
--> A220s are on YUL-YYC, YUL-YEG, YYZ-YYC and YYZ-YEG 1x daily each.

The DH1s are gone and all DH3s appear to be in the east. Also, AC have now announced irregardless of the COVID-19 situation, that Sarnia service (that is currently suspended) is gone for good...DH1 and BEH loss victim like Lethbridge and Medicine Hat.

I doubt YQT will actually be operated by Rouge given that all the FAs have been furloughed for the time being. I don't believe mainline flight attendants are allowed to operate on Rouge aircraft.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:22 pm

Thomaas wrote:
I doubt YQT will actually be operated by Rouge given that all the FAs have been furloughed for the time being. I don't believe mainline flight attendants are allowed to operate on Rouge aircraft.


What about the Rouge flights currently in the air?
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:51 pm

fraT wrote:
Thomaas wrote:
I doubt YQT will actually be operated by Rouge given that all the FAs have been furloughed for the time being. I don't believe mainline flight attendants are allowed to operate on Rouge aircraft.


What about the Rouge flights currently in the air?


Layoffs and reduced month isn’t until April 3rd.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:29 pm

crosscheckyyz wrote:
MZJ
AC2337 773
AC2339 773


Yesterday C-FITL went there as AC2337, today its C-FIUW. C-FIUL flew as AC2339 yesterday.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:10 pm

Thomaas wrote:
Dominion301 wrote:
diverted wrote:

They're cutting so much it's crazy. Also seems they're having some serious reservation issues still. Had a booking YOW-YWG for tomorrow 28MAR, originally booked AC8527 YOWYG, 1625 departure, and was rebooked AC8548 YOWYUL 1100-1142L, then time travelling backwards and catching AC481 YULYYZ 0600-0720, and then connecting onto AC259 YYZYWG 0815-0948.
Had other bookings YWGYOW that were originally booked AC8524 YWGYOW direct, and then was rebooked to an evening flight YWGYEG, then connecting YEGYVR, overnight in YVR, then YVR-YYZ the following morning, followed by a 12 hour layover and then the last flight YYZYOW that night, turning what should be a 2 hour trip into a multi day trek across the country. Needless to say, those bookings got cancelled. Now if only they'd refund them instead of just giving a credit....


Not surprising. One thing's guaranteed, you'll now need to connect to get to YWG. I did a search of AC's schedule this morning and domestic appears to be fully updated, while transborder is only partially updated. Of note, most mainline flights are exclusively A320 with the following exceptions:
--> YOW-YYZ (6 or 7x) & YYZ-DEN (1x) are exclusively E90s and these are the only E90 routes;
--> YYZ-LAX 1x daily is the only 767 (mainline) route;
--> YYZ-YVR is the only other mainline route without any 320s with 321s, a 789 and a 77L;
--> YWG-YYZ 1x daily is the only 319 I could find;
--> One A330 route - 1 of 2 daily YUL-YVR
--> YQT-YYZ 1x daily is the only Rouge route remaining and on an RV 321. Makes sense that 1x daily is still Rouge in order to keep the AOC active; and
--> A220s are on YUL-YYC, YUL-YEG, YYZ-YYC and YYZ-YEG 1x daily each.

The DH1s are gone and all DH3s appear to be in the east. Also, AC have now announced irregardless of the COVID-19 situation, that Sarnia service (that is currently suspended) is gone for good...DH1 and BEH loss victim like Lethbridge and Medicine Hat.

I doubt YQT will actually be operated by Rouge given that all the FAs have been furloughed for the time being. I don't believe mainline flight attendants are allowed to operate on Rouge aircraft.


Yep the flight switched over to a CR9.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:59 pm

Rouge C-GHLK just departed YUL and is heading to MCI.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:41 pm

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rlwynn wrote:
Not Air Canada but Canada sent a 737-200 to Morocco to pick up Canadians today.


YMX-YYR-KEF-SNN-CMN flown by C-GNLN, it's a -200C.

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... ion/rqnx6r


Wow. I flew on her CMN to FEZ in August 2004 and even then she looked and felt old but what a fabulous noise she made! I suspected at the time that it would be my last on flight on a -200 and I was right. I flew the FEZ-CMN route fairly regularly in those days and almost every flight after that one was on an ATR42 or 738.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:08 pm

AC is ferrying an A333 YUL-ALG to repatriate people: https://www.flightradar24.com/ACA7058/244b8357
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:33 pm

As for parked aircraft, someone told me that a few AC aircraft are parked at YOW, including the TCA 319.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:31 pm

Even more cuts announced yesterday:

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/hom ... html#/na-1

The major highlight since the March 27th schedule is that the timetable is now showing 'up to' in terms of flight frequency. Just browsing through and it appears most flights have a 1 daily cut. YVR-YOW suspended too.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:41 pm

Airlinerdude wrote:
Even more cuts announced yesterday:

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/hom ... html#/na-1

The major highlight since the March 27th schedule is that the timetable is now showing 'up to' in terms of flight frequency. Just browsing through and it appears most flights have a 1 daily cut. YVR-YOW suspended too.


The way things are going, I wouldn't be surprised if AC ends up only operating 5% of their pre-Covid schedule.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:49 pm

A quick scan at the April schedule indicates only 12 cities in the U.S. maintain service.
In Canada I believe Sarnia, Val D'or, Rouyn, Kingston, Kamloops, Cranbrook and Castlegar will be cut entirely. I probably missed a few.
The rest of the world is almost eliminated.

Crazy times.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:27 pm

Dominion301 wrote:
As for parked aircraft, someone told me that a few AC aircraft are parked at YOW, including the TCA 319.


Nothing left at YOW as of my afternoon bike ride today. There were quite a few frames the last few days, but nothing parked or at the ramp today and the terminal looked deserted.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:11 am

yzfElite wrote:
Dominion301 wrote:
As for parked aircraft, someone told me that a few AC aircraft are parked at YOW, including the TCA 319.


Nothing left at YOW as of my afternoon bike ride today. There were quite a few frames the last few days, but nothing parked or at the ramp today and the terminal looked deserted.


YOW is going to be a bigger ghost town than most it seems. Looking at tomorrow’s FIDS, there are 13 flights departing, with a single transborder flight (DL to DTW). If the airport’s flights somehow manage a miraculous 50% LF, total pax for April will be 31,500 for the ENTIRE month! That’s about equivalent to an average Thursday/Friday worth of ‘normal’ traffic at YOW. Insane! That pax total likely rivals 1960 traffic levels.

Skywatcher wrote:
A quick scan at the April schedule indicates only 12 cities in the U.S. maintain service.
In Canada I believe Sarnia, Val D'or, Rouyn, Kingston, Kamloops, Cranbrook and Castlegar will be cut entirely. I probably missed a few.
The rest of the world is almost eliminated.

Crazy times.


Sarnia, Lethbridge and Medicine Hat are permanently cut. The rest are temporary. Notrth Bay is another temporary example.

EDIT: YQG & YXU have now both been entirely cut for April. Wow!
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:31 am

4 more today to YQG. Rouge 2x 321, 1x 319. Mainline 1x 320. A quick look at what has been brought to Windsor shows that the 2nd and 3rd oldest 320s in the mainline fleet (C-FDSN and C-FDST) are both here -- both delivered November 1990.
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:29 am

Dominion301 wrote:
As for parked aircraft, someone told me that a few AC aircraft are parked at YOW, including the TCA 319.


TCA isn’t parked, it’s actively flying...
 
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Re: Which Air Canada's aircraft are being parked?

Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:46 pm

AC2327 767-375 C-FPCA flying YYZ-MCI right now. Is this going to be parked or maybe just a extra section. AC2xxx flight numbers usually mean an extra section where AC7xxx usually mean a ferry flight. We'll see if it comes back
P51 P38 TBM B17 T34P ST75 C150/72/85 C402/21 AA1 B06 S232/33 AC80 BE35 DC3/4M/8/9/10 DHC4/6/7/8 CRJ2/9 CONI L188 L101 B717/27/37/47/57/67/77/87 A319/20/21/30/40/80 E175/90 BA46 BA11 CLVT A748 B190 JS31 SW4 SF34 F28 VISC VC9
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