PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

Here are some stats on yesterday at DTW to give you all a clearer picture, based on flightaware departures:

All Airlines:
Row Labels Count of ID
AA 10
A319 2
A320 2
A321 1
B738 2
CRJ7 2
E145 1

AS 1
B738 1

Cargo 9
A306 1
A332 1
B752 2
B762 1
B763 1
DC10 2
MD11 1

DL 129
A319 11
A321 15
A332 1
A333 1
A359 1
B738 7
B739 10
B763 1
BCS1 5
CRJ2 24
CRJ9 46
E75S 7

Gen Av. 5
C550 1
C68A 1
P46T 2
TBM7 1

NK 9
A319 1
A320 8

SY 1
B738 1

UA 4
CRJ7 1
E75L 3

WN 8
B737 6
B738 2

Grand Total 176

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Delta only, by Operating Carrier:

DL 52
A319 11
A321 15
A332 1
A333 1
A359 1
B738 7
B739 10
B763 1
BCS1 5

9E 64
CRJ2 19
CRJ9 45

OO 6
CRJ2 5
CRJ9 1

YX 7
E75S 7
Grand Total 129

Delta - Departures by Hour:

07:00-07:59 1
08:00-08:59 11
09:00-09:59 9
10:00-10:59 22
11:00-11:59 3
12:00-12:59 16
13:00-13:59 6
14:00-14:59 4
15:00-15:59 6
16:00-16:59 4
17:00-17:59 2
18:00-18:59 15
19:00-19:59 2
20:00-20:59 18
21:00-21:59 10

Grand Total 129

Delta - by Destination

DL 129
Albany Intl (KALB) 2
Alpena County Rgnl (KAPN) 1
Amsterdam Schiphol (AMS / EHAM) 1
Appleton Intl (KATW) 1
Austin-Bergstrom Intl (KAUS) 1
Baltimore/Washington Intl (KBWI) 1
Bangor Intl (KBGR) 1
Binghamton (KBGM) 1
Blue Grass (KLEX) 1
Boston Logan Intl (KBOS) 3
Bradley Intl (KBDL) 2
Buffalo Niagara Intl (KBUF) 2
Burlington Intl (KBTV) 1
Capital Region Intl (KLAN) 1
Charlotte/Douglas Intl (KCLT) 2
Cherry Capital (KTVC) 1
Chicago O'Hare Intl (KORD) 2
Chippewa County Intl (KCIU) 1
Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport (KCVG) 3
Cleveland-Hopkins Intl (KCLE) 2
Dallas-Fort Worth Intl (KDFW) 1
Dane Co Rgnl (KMSN) 1
Delta County (KESC) 1
Denver Intl (KDEN) 1
Des Moines Intl (KDSM) 1
Elmira/Corning Rgnl (KELM) 2
Erie Intl/Tom Ridge Field (KERI) 1
Evansville Rgnl (KEVV) 1
Ford (KIMT) 1
Fort Lauderdale Intl (KFLL) 2
Fort Wayne Intl (KFWA) 1
Gerald R Ford Intl (KGRR) 2
Greater Rochester Intl (KROC) 2
Green Bay-Austin Straubel Intl (KGRB) 2
Harrisburg Intl (KMDT) 1
Hartsfield-Jackson Intl (KATL) 5
Houston Bush Int'ctl (KIAH) 2
Incheon Int'l (ICN / RKSI) 1
Indianapolis Intl (KIND) 2
Ithaca Tompkins Rgnl (KITH) 1
James M Cox Dayton Intl (KDAY) 2
John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK) 2
John Glenn Columbus Intl Airport (KCMH) 2
Kalamazoo/Battle Creek Intl (KAZO) 1
Kansas City Intl (KMCI) 1
LaGuardia (KLGA) 3
Lehigh Valley Intl (KABE) 1
London Heathrow (LHR / EGLL) 1
Los Angeles Intl (KLAX) 3
MBS Intl (KMBS) 1
McCarran Intl (KLAS) 1
McGhee Tyson (KTYS) 1
Miami Intl (KMIA) 1
Milwaukee Mitchell Intl Airport (KMKE) 1
Minneapolis/St Paul Intl (KMSP) 4
Montreal-Trudeau (CYUL) 1
Muhammad Ali Intl (KSDF) 1
Nashville Intl (KBNA) 1
Newark Liberty Intl (KEWR) 1
Norfolk Intl (KORF) 2
Orlando Intl (KMCO) 2
Pellston Rgnl (KPLN) 1
Philadelphia Intl (KPHL) 1
Phoenix Sky Harbor Intl (KPHX) 2
Pittsburgh Intl (KPIT) 2
Portland Intl Jetport (KPWM) 1
Raleigh-Durham Intl (KRDU) 2
Reagan National (KDCA) 2
Salt Lake City Intl (KSLC) 4
San Diego Intl (KSAN) 1
San Francisco Intl (KSFO) 1
Scranton Intl (KAVP) 1
Seattle-Tacoma Intl (KSEA) 3
Sofia Airport (SOF / LBSF) 1
South Bend Intl (KSBN) 1
Southwest Florida Intl (KRSW) 2
St Louis Lambert Intl (KSTL) 1
Syracuse Hancock Intl (KSYR) 2
Tampa Intl (KTPA) 2
Toronto Pearson Int'l (CYYZ) 2
University Park Airport (KUNV) 1
Washington Dulles Intl (KIAD) 2
Grand Total 129

NWAESC wrote:

AZORMP wrote:

AZO returns to 3x/day in July and 4x/day in August. I believe it’s similar for the other non-EAS field stations in MI.

Looking at DLTerm, it still looks like August's schedule is the original (Pre-COVID) one. Nothing new on DLNet, either. Where are you see updated info for August?

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

Some of the upgauges, particularly on hub-to-hub is a function more connecting flows, and right now more a need to connect DTW to JFK's limited TATL and connect JFK to DTWs domestic network.

Also with the social distancing measures, the CR9 just may not have enough seats with seat blocking hence the upgauge.

And, there are A320 showing in the schedule for July, thus we should be seeing A320s reactivations from storage soon.

tphuang wrote:

EADSYABSOB73857 wrote:

tphuang wrote:

Oh I saw this yesterday, but remember I've said BOS is more likely a focus city going forward than a hub. I was anticipating more of a 70 to 90 flight station when this is all set and done. And based on what I've seen, it might be closer to 70 by end of 2022. All these other places were never called "hub" by DL.

RDU/CVG I said are more likely to be 40 to 45 flight stations since they started off from a lower point. All the other ones had minimal non-hub flights and don't even need to be mentioned here.

And picking a monday/Friday in late July, I see 23 departures a day, not 30. Let's not make stuff up here. That's even a lot smaller than AA's presence at BOS for July.

The reality is by July:
SEA will be close to 80 flights a day
LAX will be over 60 flights a day.
Both of them are about 35 to 45% of pre-COVID size. DL looks like they are running a 30% schedule system wide. BOS/CVG/RDU are clearly coming back a lot slower than other places.

And the other thing is NYC is coming back a lot slower than other places. I'd fully expect DL to focus on bringing back LGA back to pre-COVID size in number of flights by next spring. But JFK I expect will not be utilizing all of its slots for a while. That's the part that people should be focusing on. How is Delta going to bring back JFK while TATL traffic is down and all those feed flights will have nothing to connect to. 717 base in NYC is gone, DTW.MSP is getting a lot of stuff downguaged to regional, how many RJs are left to fly out of JFK/LGA?

There have been NO indications made by DL that these cities will be gutted the way you are stating they will be. Did you even listen to the link where Bastion spoke???? You keep ranting and raving that BOS is doomed as a DL hub due to NYC slots being widely available and therefore, there being no need to route passengers to BOS for connections... Let’s remember- pre-COVID DL was connecting 5% or less of passengers a day over BOS, so it wasn’t even a huge station for connections before, so that makes your assertion about NYC moot. I don’t really know where you come up with your outlandish predictions. If DL is running 70 flights a day to BOS, that is a skeleton schedule- can barely accommodate flights to all hubs and maybe a few non hub cities... Also DL has played more defense during this crisis than most other airlines as a means to preserve their cash, so don’t conflate their strategy with the belief that all these cities are done. Do I think these cities will be scaled down in size in order to align with the demand need- absolutely. But what you’re predicting has not been indicated anywhere, and Bastion’s own statements conflicts with yours. I’ll believe him over you any day.

SEA - almost 80 flights a day in July
LAX - Over 60 flights a day in July
BOS - 23 in July

It's quite clear BOS is being brought back at the same pace as RDU/CVG at this point. There are hubs that will be brought back to close to pre_COVID # of flights by next summer like core hubs and SEA based on what they've done so far. And then there are other hubs/focus cities that get brought back slower. And then there are BOS/CVG/RDU which are not going to be anywhere close to pre-COVID size at that point.

Again, the RJs need to go to places like LGA/JFK/DTW/MSP to lower capacity while maintaining schedule. So all the tougher markets out of BOS/CVG/RDU where they were already the weakest airline in terms of schedule and were flying RJs will get dropped. Those are the worst performing markets and should be the first they drop.

In the next few years, they have to navigate a lower demand environment, pay back a lot of debt and have a bruising battle at SEA, which they seem to be fully committed. There are only so many battles you can have. Every airline needs to pick their priorities.

You can't be 15 to 20% smaller by summer of 2022 and bring back core hubs to pre-COVID strength and not cut down any of the coastal hubs/focus cities. The math doesn't work out.

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

DTW-JFK will need frequency for connectivity when departures / hub banks are restored. JFK served many unique destinations not served from DTW, offered TATL connections like ATL, AMS, CDG.

Also there are operational needs to as it was used as a bridge for 9E CR9s between DTW & JFK, also a significant number of pilot & FA commuters.

EADSYABSOB73857 wrote:

tphuang wrote:

EADSYABSOB73857 wrote:

There have been NO indications made by DL that these cities will be gutted the way you are stating they will be. Did you even listen to the link where Bastion spoke???? You keep ranting and raving that BOS is doomed as a DL hub due to NYC slots being widely available and therefore, there being no need to route passengers to BOS for connections... Let’s remember- pre-COVID DL was connecting 5% or less of passengers a day over BOS, so it wasn’t even a huge station for connections before, so that makes your assertion about NYC moot. I don’t really know where you come up with your outlandish predictions. If DL is running 70 flights a day to BOS, that is a skeleton schedule- can barely accommodate flights to all hubs and maybe a few non hub cities... Also DL has played more defense during this crisis than most other airlines as a means to preserve their cash, so don’t conflate their strategy with the belief that all these cities are done. Do I think these cities will be scaled down in size in order to align with the demand need- absolutely. But what you’re predicting has not been indicated anywhere, and Bastion’s own statements conflicts with yours. I’ll believe him over you any day.

SEA - almost 80 flights a day in July
LAX - Over 60 flights a day in July
BOS - 23 in July

It's quite clear BOS is being brought back at the same pace as RDU/CVG at this point. There are hubs that will be brought back to close to pre_COVID # of flights by next summer like core hubs and SEA based on what they've done so far. And then there are other hubs/focus cities that get brought back slower. And then there are BOS/CVG/RDU which are not going to be anywhere close to pre-COVID size at that point.

Again, the RJs need to go to places like LGA/JFK/DTW/MSP to lower capacity while maintaining schedule. So all the tougher markets out of BOS/CVG/RDU where they were already the weakest airline in terms of schedule and were flying RJs will get dropped. Those are the worst performing markets and should be the first they drop.

In the next few years, they have to navigate a lower demand environment, pay back a lot of debt and have a bruising battle at SEA, which they seem to be fully committed. There are only so many battles you can have. Every airline needs to pick their priorities.

You can't be 15 to 20% smaller by summer of 2022 and bring back core hubs to pre-COVID strength and not cut down any of the coastal hubs/focus cities. The math doesn't work out.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-air ... ocus-city/

Delta reaffirms full commitment to BOS, RDU and AUS and plans to bring these cities back. BOS to remain a coastal hub and RDU to stay on as a focus city. What you said just isn’t happening. It’s clear if something doesn’t favor B6 positively, your theory indicates doom and gloom for the other carrier.

evank516 wrote:

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

DTW-JFK will need frequency for connectivity when departures / hub banks are restored. JFK served many unique destinations not served from DTW, offered TATL connections like ATL, AMS, CDG.

Also there are operational needs to as it was used as a bridge for 9E CR9s between DTW & JFK, also a significant number of pilot & FA commuters.

So that justifies flooding the market with CR9s? Plenty of other ways to bridge those CR9s between DTW and JFK. Honestly if NY and DTW are still large points for the A220 I could see this route being dominated by those.

deltaSEAalsaka wrote:

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

Aircraft returned from storage Tue 6/16:
1 B738 MCI-DTW
1 B739 MZJ-ATL
1 B739 MWH-SLC
1 A321 QRO-YYZ ??? Not sure why flying to YYZ

Seems as if it is flying YYZ-DTW tomorrow and based on its flight history, it has never done a domestic flight.

DLASFlyer wrote:

An airport official says SLC is Delta's fastest-recovering hub.
https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/20 ... t-hit-low/

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

DLASFlyer wrote:

An airport official says SLC is Delta's fastest-recovering hub.
https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/20 ... t-hit-low/

Not surprised, on a percentage basis it’s recovered more than others. ATL obviously still has more flights/seats/ passengers but a smaller % of normal.
SLC has less international flight exposure and also connected to summer East-west flows and mountain west destinations and national parks that leisure demand peaks in summer.

tphuang wrote:

EADSYABSOB73857 wrote:

tphuang wrote:

SEA - almost 80 flights a day in July
LAX - Over 60 flights a day in July
BOS - 23 in July

It's quite clear BOS is being brought back at the same pace as RDU/CVG at this point. There are hubs that will be brought back to close to pre_COVID # of flights by next summer like core hubs and SEA based on what they've done so far. And then there are other hubs/focus cities that get brought back slower. And then there are BOS/CVG/RDU which are not going to be anywhere close to pre-COVID size at that point.

Again, the RJs need to go to places like LGA/JFK/DTW/MSP to lower capacity while maintaining schedule. So all the tougher markets out of BOS/CVG/RDU where they were already the weakest airline in terms of schedule and were flying RJs will get dropped. Those are the worst performing markets and should be the first they drop.

In the next few years, they have to navigate a lower demand environment, pay back a lot of debt and have a bruising battle at SEA, which they seem to be fully committed. There are only so many battles you can have. Every airline needs to pick their priorities.

You can't be 15 to 20% smaller by summer of 2022 and bring back core hubs to pre-COVID strength and not cut down any of the coastal hubs/focus cities. The math doesn't work out.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-air ... ocus-city/

Delta reaffirms full commitment to BOS, RDU and AUS and plans to bring these cities back. BOS to remain a coastal hub and RDU to stay on as a focus city. What you said just isn’t happening. It’s clear if something doesn’t favor B6 positively, your theory indicates doom and gloom for the other carrier.

Airlines generally don't say they are going to cut a hub/focus city until right before they are about to tear it town. AA said they are not dehubbing any cities, but a huge bunch of JFK slots suddenly got returned.

The statement there is made without any kind of timeline or even how large they intend to bring back each station.

DL has made it crystal clear which hubs/focus city are more important to them in this and BOS/CVG/RDU are in the bottom of the list. Looks like CVG is a complete goner now with even FA base looking to be disbanded. DL will be busy building back up ATL followed by DTW/MSP/SLC/SEA and then NYC/LAX. BOS/RDU will be an afterthought until its more important hubs are back to full strength and that won't be for a few years. As I said 70 to 90 flight focus city for BOS and around 50 flight operation at RDU for the medium term. Who can really predict further out than that.

Huge opening at NYC right now. DL will be busy building back up its NYC hub operation. B6 will be busy expanding at JFK and EWR. Neither airline are not going to be too keen on reigniting this BOS fare war while carrying so much debt.

Midwestindy wrote:

Shareholders Meeting:
- Cash burn down to $30M for June
- "A few more retirements by the end of the year"
- 1,000 new flights for July & August, then a pause after Labor Day to see where demand is
- Approximately down 55-60% of domestic in August
- LF in mid 40s but growing, today at 50%
- Adding back 2,000 reservation agents

DLASFlyer wrote:

An airport official says SLC is Delta's fastest-recovering hub.
https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/20 ... t-hit-low/

TropicalSky wrote:

Amazing to see them get down to 30mil seeing as the initial goal was 50mil......I'm sure the reactivation of planes and crew will increase cost again-wonder what United & American burn rate is now?

Midwestindy wrote:

Shareholders Meeting:
- Cash burn down to $30M for June
- "A few more retirements by the end of the year"
- 1,000 new flights for July & August, then a pause after Labor Day to see where demand is
- Approximately down 55-60% of domestic in August
- LF in mid 40s but growing, today at 50%
- Adding back 2,000 reservation agents

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

evank516 wrote:

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

DTW-JFK will need frequency for connectivity when departures / hub banks are restored. JFK served many unique destinations not served from DTW, offered TATL connections like ATL, AMS, CDG.

Also there are operational needs to as it was used as a bridge for 9E CR9s between DTW & JFK, also a significant number of pilot & FA commuters.

So that justifies flooding the market with CR9s? Plenty of other ways to bridge those CR9s between DTW and JFK. Honestly if NY and DTW are still large points for the A220 I could see this route being dominated by those.

Not to specifically to bridge aircraft but 5x was needed to connect the major departure banks on both ends since it is hub to hub. 2x under normal times would result in long connection times. 2x A320 doesn’t hit the connections on both sides. 5x was typically a mix of CR9, 717, A320. They have also put 76W and 333 on for live repositions. Aircraft type is less important but a reason why you saw 9E CR9 instead of OO CR9 or YX E75 for example

klm617 wrote:

There are no YYZ-ATL flights operating.

-DL was burning 100 Millions a day, cash burn reduced to 30 Millions a day at present.
-Hopes to not have to furlough any staff in Q3/Q4, but will depend on whetheror not a second wave will occur.
-Traffic trebled from 5% mid-April to 15% YoY.
-Middle seat always left empty, measures will remain in place until a vaccine or other remedy is available.
-Hoping for more corporate traffic after labor day,

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

Delta has loaded what appears to be a preliminary schedule for August that can viewed through the online routemap. The website and what is loaded for sale for August does not yet reflect the changes but they should be loaded in this Saturday's schedule update, and subsequently in enilria's weekly OAG report this Sunday.

There also appears to be additional flights loaded for July as well.

I have been tracking DL at DTW so I pulled as much as I could. I may have missed a few destinations/flights, since its a manual look-up
If someone else is bored, feel free to look into the other hubs/focus cities........

DTW
# of daily departures:
June (6/18/20) 130
July (7/13/20) 198
August (8/10/20) 288

Destinations resuming in July: MEM, RIC, PDX, MEX, HND, CDG
Destinations resuming in August: CWA, OMA, CID, SNA, MSY, SAT, CHA, MTY (AM), CUN, PVG

Destinations ending in July: BGR, ERI, AVP, YOW
On-going destinations suspended that had nonstops pre-COVID: NGO, PEK, FCO, MUC, FRA, SJC, HPN, SWF, PVD, MHT, PBI, JAX, CHS, SAV, GSP, GSO, LIT, OKC, YVR

Departures by City June vs. July vs. Aug

Code June July Aug
ABE 1 1 2
ALB 2 3 3
AMS 1 1 1
APN 1 1 1
ATL 5 10 10
ATW 1 1 3
AUS 1 1 2
AVP 1 0 0
AZO 1 3 3
BDL 2 2 3
BGM 1 1 2
BGR 1 0 0
BNA 1 3 5
BOS 3 3 5
BTV 1 3 4
BUF 2 3 4
BWI 1 2 4
CDG 0 1 1
CHA 0 0 1
CID 0 0 2
CIU 1 1 1
CLE 2 3 5
CLT 2 4 4
CMH 2 3 5
CUN 0 0 1
CVG 3 4 5
CWA 0 0 2
DAY 2 2 3
DCA 2 3 4
DEN 1 2 3
DFW 1 3 4
DSM 1 1 3
ELM 2 3 3
ERI 1 0 0
ESC 1 2 2
EVV 1 1 3
EWR 1 3 4
FLL 2 3 3
FWA 1 3 3
GLL 1 1 1
GRB 2 3 3
GRR 2 3 5
HND 0 1 1
IAD 2 2 4
IAH 2 2 3
ICN 1 1 1
IMT 1 1 1
IND 2 3 5
ITH 1 1 1
JFK 2 2 4
LAN 1 2 3
LAS 1 2 4
LAX 3 4 5
LEX 1 1 2
LGA 3 4 5
MBS 1 3 3
MCI 1 2 3
MCO 2 3 5
MDT 1 3 3
MEM 0 2 2
MEX 0 1 1
MIA 1 1 2
MKE 1 3 3
MQT 1 1 1
MSN 1 2 3
MSP 4 5 6
MSY 0 0 2
MTY 0 0 1
OMA 0 0 2
ORD 2 2 4
ORF 2 2 3
ORH 1 1 1
PDX 0 1 2
PHL 1 2 4
PHX 2 2 3
PIT 2 3 4
PLN 1 3 3
PVG 0 0 1
PWM 1 3 3
RDU 2 3 4
RIC 0 1 3
ROC 2 3 4
RSW 2 2 2
SAN 1 1 2
SAT 0 0 2
SBN 1 2 3
SCE 1 1 2
SDF 1 2 3
SEA 3 4 6
SFO 1 2 3
SLC 4 4 5
SNA 0 0 1
STL 1 2 3
SYR 2 2 3
TPA 2 3 3
TVC 1 4 4
TYS 1 1 3
YUL 1 1 2
YYZ 2 2 3

TOTAL 130 198 288

Preliminary Equipment for August Schedule:
CRJ 56
CR9 116
E75 13
E90 (AM) 1
221 6
319 14
320 6
739 20
321 35
757 15
764 1
359 5
Total 288

(For comparison this was the flights by type in peak summer 2019)
DTW

CR2: 86
CR7: 52
E70: 6
CR9: 113
717: 33
221: 7
319: 28
320: 24
738: 2
739: 28
321: 38
752: 21
753: 6
763: 6
764: 1
332: 2
333: 3
359: 5

Total = 461

Note - A320 and 757 flying to DTW planned to resume in July. DTW-LHR scheduled as 764 effective in August with no ORD tag-on, replacing the ORD-DTW-LHR 76W.

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

Delta has loaded what appears to be a preliminary schedule for August that can viewed through the online routemap. The website and what is loaded for sale for August does not yet reflect the changes but they should be loaded in this Saturday's schedule update, and subsequently in enilria's weekly OAG report this Sunday.

There also appears to be additional flights loaded for July as well.

I have been tracking DL at DTW so I pulled as much as I could. I may have missed a few destinations/flights, since its a manual look-up
If someone else is bored, feel free to look into the other hubs/focus cities........

DTW
# of daily departures:
June (6/18/20) 130
July (7/13/20) 198
August (8/10/20) 288

Destinations resuming in July: MEM, RIC, PDX, MEX, HND, CDG
Destinations resuming in August: CWA, OMA, CID, SNA, MSY, SAT, CHA, MTY (AM), CUN, PVG

Destinations ending in July: BGR, ERI, AVP, YOW
On-going destinations suspended that had nonstops pre-COVID: NGO, PEK, FCO, MUC, FRA, SJC, HPN, SWF, PVD, MHT, PBI, JAX, CHS, SAV, GSP, GSO, LIT, OKC, YVR

Total = 461

Note - A320 and 757 flying to DTW planned to resume in July. DTW-LHR scheduled as 764 effective in August with no ORD tag-on, replacing the ORD-DTW-LHR 76W.

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

Delta has loaded what appears to be a preliminary schedule for August that can viewed through the online routemap. The website and what is loaded for sale for August does not yet reflect the changes but they should be loaded in this Saturday's schedule update, and subsequently in enilria's weekly OAG report this Sunday.

There also appears to be additional flights loaded for July as well.

I have been tracking DL at DTW so I pulled as much as I could. I may have missed a few destinations/flights, since its a manual look-up
If someone else is bored, feel free to look into the other hubs/focus cities........

DTW
# of daily departures:
June (6/18/20) 130
July (7/13/20) 198
August (8/10/20) 288

Destinations resuming in July: MEM, RIC, PDX, MEX, HND, CDG
Destinations resuming in August: CWA, OMA, CID, SNA, MSY, SAT, CHA, MTY (AM), CUN, PVG

Destinations ending in July: BGR, ERI, AVP, YOW
On-going destinations suspended that had nonstops pre-COVID: NGO, PEK, FCO, MUC, FRA, SJC, HPN, SWF, PVD, MHT, PBI, JAX, CHS, SAV, GSP, GSO, LIT, OKC, YVR

Departures by City June vs. July vs. Aug

Code June July Aug
ABE 1 1 2
ALB 2 3 3
AMS 1 1 1
APN 1 1 1
ATL 5 10 10
ATW 1 1 3
AUS 1 1 2
AVP 1 0 0
AZO 1 3 3
BDL 2 2 3
BGM 1 1 2
BGR 1 0 0
BNA 1 3 5
BOS 3 3 5
BTV 1 3 4
BUF 2 3 4
BWI 1 2 4
CDG 0 1 1
CHA 0 0 1
CID 0 0 2
CIU 1 1 1
CLE 2 3 5
CLT 2 4 4
CMH 2 3 5
CUN 0 0 1
CVG 3 4 5
CWA 0 0 2
DAY 2 2 3
DCA 2 3 4
DEN 1 2 3
DFW 1 3 4
DSM 1 1 3
ELM 2 3 3
ERI 1 0 0
ESC 1 2 2
EVV 1 1 3
EWR 1 3 4
FLL 2 3 3
FWA 1 3 3
GLL 1 1 1
GRB 2 3 3
GRR 2 3 5
HND 0 1 1
IAD 2 2 4
IAH 2 2 3
ICN 1 1 1
IMT 1 1 1
IND 2 3 5
ITH 1 1 1
JFK 2 2 4
LAN 1 2 3
LAS 1 2 4
LAX 3 4 5
LEX 1 1 2
LGA 3 4 5
MBS 1 3 3
MCI 1 2 3
MCO 2 3 5
MDT 1 3 3
MEM 0 2 2
MEX 0 1 1
MIA 1 1 2
MKE 1 3 3
MQT 1 1 1
MSN 1 2 3
MSP 4 5 6
MSY 0 0 2
MTY 0 0 1
OMA 0 0 2
ORD 2 2 4
ORF 2 2 3
ORH 1 1 1
PDX 0 1 2
PHL 1 2 4
PHX 2 2 3
PIT 2 3 4
PLN 1 3 3
PVG 0 0 1
PWM 1 3 3
RDU 2 3 4
RIC 0 1 3
ROC 2 3 4
RSW 2 2 2
SAN 1 1 2
SAT 0 0 2
SBN 1 2 3
SCE 1 1 2
SDF 1 2 3
SEA 3 4 6
SFO 1 2 3
SLC 4 4 5
SNA 0 0 1
STL 1 2 3
SYR 2 2 3
TPA 2 3 3
TVC 1 4 4
TYS 1 1 3
YUL 1 1 2
YYZ 2 2 3

TOTAL 130 198 288

Preliminary Equipment for August Schedule:
CRJ 56
CR9 116
E75 13
E90 (AM) 1
221 6
319 14
320 6
739 20
321 35
757 15
764 1
359 5
Total 288

(For comparison this was the flights by type in peak summer 2019)
DTW

CR2: 86
CR7: 52
E70: 6
CR9: 113
717: 33
221: 7
319: 28
320: 24
738: 2
739: 28
321: 38
752: 21
753: 6
763: 6
764: 1
332: 2
333: 3
359: 5

Total = 461

Note - A320 and 757 flying to DTW planned to resume in July. DTW-LHR scheduled as 764 effective in August with no ORD tag-on, replacing the ORD-DTW-LHR 76W.

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

Delta has loaded what appears to be a preliminary schedule for August that can viewed through the online routemap. The website and what is loaded for sale for August does not yet reflect the changes but they should be loaded in this Saturday's schedule update, and subsequently in enilria's weekly OAG report this Sunday.
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ROCDLFAN wrote:

Would anyone possibly have a link that could be provided for the route map? Attempting to see where ROC/BUF/SYR are at for August but not able to figure out where the location of the map is. TIA

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

Can you elaborate? If it came out of storage / maintenance in QRO how does flying it to Canada impact tariffs?

Not questioning just curious. There are so many crazy things you have to do and work arounds

Dalmd88 wrote:

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

Can you elaborate? If it came out of storage / maintenance in QRO how does flying it to Canada impact tariffs?

Not questioning just curious. There are so many crazy things you have to do and work arounds

It has to do with delivery tariffs on non US built aircraft enacted by the US Government last year. The loop hole as I was explained was if the aircraft delivery occurred outside of US boarders there would be no tariff if the aircraft was only used for international flights. Delta began taking delivery of non US assembled Airbus in foreign countries and those airframes only are allowed to do international turns.

I know some ATL mechanics that were doing TDY in Japan for A350 deliveries. I seems there are some A321 that fit this category also.

MIflyer12 wrote:

Bastian at the Shareholders Meeting today on retiring more fleet types, emphasis mine:

Ed Bastian

Well, immediately following the pandemic and the reduction of travel demand, we have temporarily parked over 700 aircraft across our system, every aircraft type that Delta operates. We have made the decision to exit certain fleet types that we are not going to bring back. The most recent decision we made was around the 777. We will have our last flight of the 777 this fall. We have already grounded and will not be returning the MD-88 or MD-90. Both of those fleet types had their last flight earlier of this month. And we will continue to look at other fleet types as well as planes within sub-fleets within our larger fleet family for retirement decisions. There will probably be a few more made before the end of this year.

On load factors:

Month-to-date load factor for June is running in the mid-40s, but that’s growing as the month goes on. We are looking at today’s schedule, and I think today’s load factor is booked at 50%. Of course, we have a 60% cap on flights, and that limits our load factors, so the numbers are a bit lower as compared if we had an uncapped load factor.


You can find the transcript here: https://seekingalpha.com/article/435474 ... quote_news

NYCDM wrote:

MIflyer12 wrote:

Bastian at the Shareholders Meeting today on retiring more fleet types, emphasis mine:

Ed Bastian

Well, immediately following the pandemic and the reduction of travel demand, we have temporarily parked over 700 aircraft across our system, every aircraft type that Delta operates. We have made the decision to exit certain fleet types that we are not going to bring back. The most recent decision we made was around the 777. We will have our last flight of the 777 this fall. We have already grounded and will not be returning the MD-88 or MD-90. Both of those fleet types had their last flight earlier of this month. And we will continue to look at other fleet types as well as planes within sub-fleets within our larger fleet family for retirement decisions. There will probably be a few more made before the end of this year.

On load factors:

Month-to-date load factor for June is running in the mid-40s, but that’s growing as the month goes on. We are looking at today’s schedule, and I think today’s load factor is booked at 50%. Of course, we have a 60% cap on flights, and that limits our load factors, so the numbers are a bit lower as compared if we had an uncapped load factor.


You can find the transcript here: https://seekingalpha.com/article/435474 ... quote_news

This is a little confusing — is he saying that LF’s are 50% of the 60% cap? Or 50% of 100% potential LF?

N766UA wrote:

NYCDM wrote:

MIflyer12 wrote:

Bastian at the Shareholders Meeting today on retiring more fleet types, emphasis mine:

Ed Bastian

Well, immediately following the pandemic and the reduction of travel demand, we have temporarily parked over 700 aircraft across our system, every aircraft type that Delta operates. We have made the decision to exit certain fleet types that we are not going to bring back. The most recent decision we made was around the 777. We will have our last flight of the 777 this fall. We have already grounded and will not be returning the MD-88 or MD-90. Both of those fleet types had their last flight earlier of this month. And we will continue to look at other fleet types as well as planes within sub-fleets within our larger fleet family for retirement decisions. There will probably be a few more made before the end of this year.

On load factors:

Month-to-date load factor for June is running in the mid-40s, but that’s growing as the month goes on. We are looking at today’s schedule, and I think today’s load factor is booked at 50%. Of course, we have a 60% cap on flights, and that limits our load factors, so the numbers are a bit lower as compared if we had an uncapped load factor.


You can find the transcript here: https://seekingalpha.com/article/435474 ... quote_news

This is a little confusing — is he saying that LF’s are 50% of the 60% cap? Or 50% of 100% potential LF?

50% of 60%. So, 30% of normal.

NLINK wrote:

From DL you can probably see them looking at options to get out of leases on almost any aircraft in it's fleet, new or old first to save costs.
As for those older aircraft or semi sub fleets you have the following that all or none could be considered.
Older
320-200
757-200
767-300ER

Small Sub fleets
10 737-700
16 757-300

As everyone else says the 717 are the ones that's anyones guess. For Boeing to take them back early they will need something in return which would be some type of aircraft order which we could all guess but it would be the 737-MAX or 787 as those are the only two real options.

Dalmd88 wrote:

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

Can you elaborate? If it came out of storage / maintenance in QRO how does flying it to Canada impact tariffs?

Not questioning just curious. There are so many crazy things you have to do and work arounds

It has to do with delivery tariffs on non US built aircraft enacted by the US Government last year. The loop hole as I was explained was if the aircraft delivery occurred outside of US boarders there would be no tariff if the aircraft was only used for international flights. Delta began taking delivery of non US assembled Airbus in foreign countries and those airframes only are allowed to do international turns.

I know some ATL mechanics that were doing TDY in Japan for A350 deliveries. I seems there are some A321 that fit this category also.