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Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:32 am

Why did the owner of this 737-800 BBJ painted in a livery similar to UA´s rising blue colors? Won´t UA sue the owner of this aircraft for copying their color scheme.

 
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:36 am

Considering that there are some differences and it’s such an old livery, I highly doubt UA cares and even knows this exists.
 
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:47 am

UA857 wrote:
Why did the owner of this 737-800 BBJ painted in a livery similar to UA´s rising blue colors? Won´t UA sue the owner of this aircraft for copying their color scheme.



Sue? No. Unless it reads UNITED down the side, there's hardly an issue.
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:57 am

The plane is owned by Bob Manoukian and is based at KBUR with a sweet setup. The paint job has also been updated as well to a new snazzy paint.
 
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:50 am

UA857 wrote:
Why did the owner of this 737-800 BBJ painted in a livery similar to UA´s rising blue colors? Won´t UA sue the owner of this aircraft for copying their color scheme.



United does not own all liveries with shades of blue and white.

This has some shared design aspects, but is materially different from what they had.
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:34 am

It was repainted in a different color:
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:05 am

City busses in Heilbronn/Germany used to be painted in a similar "livery" that always made me think of United:
https://www.bus-bild.de/bild/bustypen~stadtbusse~mercedes-benz-o-530-ii-citaro-facelift/140683/bus-heilbronn--nahverkehr-hohenlohekreis-nvh.html
 
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:05 am

Antaras wrote:
It was repainted in a different color:

Was was it repainted.
 
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:16 am

UA857 wrote:
Antaras wrote:
It was repainted in a different color:

Was was it repainted.


Three years ago.
 
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:47 am

With this tail it doesn't look anything like it.
 
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:01 am

I don't think anyone at Northwest Airlines protested when Delta's flight widget was pointing towards the northwest when they unveiled their new livery. To this day i like that (unintentional) nod to their merger partner :)

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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:23 pm

MoonC wrote:
UA857 wrote:
Antaras wrote:
It was repainted in a different color:

Was was it repainted.


Three years ago.

Does anyone know why it got repainted.
 
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:46 pm

He felt like it. Most personal jets get refreshed every few years.
 
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:55 pm

PANAMsterdam wrote:
I don't think anyone at Northwest Airlines protested when Delta's flight widget was pointing towards the northwest when they unveiled their new livery. To this day i like that (unintentional) nod to their merger partner :)

Of course it was intentional. Also why the widget is red.
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:06 pm

Would be better if I had pics, but I recall seeing several different aircraft in modified DL colors. The titles and widget were removed but the blue and red lines down the aircraft stayed. Hardly can trademark a few colored lines.

That DC-6 that DL just acquired was in a livery very close to DL's old livery if I recall.

So basically, taking off the titles and logos is probably enough? I'd be interesting to see what trademark lawyers have to say (assuming it's a trademark? Or copyright? Don't really know the difference)
 
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:02 pm

DeltaMD90 wrote:
So basically, taking off the titles and logos is probably enough? I'd be interesting to see what trademark lawyers have to say (assuming it's a trademark? Or copyright? Don't really know the difference)

Part of it depends on what you do with your "infringement." The owner of a private jet that has a livery very close to United's because he likes the look on his plane is going to be treated very differently by the courts than a startup called "Union Airlines" that is also using a livery closely resembling United's.
 
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:22 pm

cedarjet wrote:
PANAMsterdam wrote:
I don't think anyone at Northwest Airlines protested when Delta's flight widget was pointing towards the northwest when they unveiled their new livery. To this day i like that (unintentional) nod to their merger partner :)

Of course it was intentional. Also why the widget is red.


No, Delta introduced their new (current) livery when they emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in may 2007. It wasn't until April 2008 that they announced their merger with Northwest.
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:35 pm

You could paint your BBJ like an airliner for it to look like an airliner, instead of people seeing you're filthy rich they would just see another airliner.
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:45 pm

Just curious, but what is that on top of the tail?
 
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:57 pm

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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:05 pm

Wow...thanks for the very quick reply!
 
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:29 pm

PANAMsterdam wrote:
cedarjet wrote:
PANAMsterdam wrote:
I don't think anyone at Northwest Airlines protested when Delta's flight widget was pointing towards the northwest when they unveiled their new livery. To this day i like that (unintentional) nod to their merger partner :)

Of course it was intentional. Also why the widget is red.


No, Delta introduced their new (current) livery when they emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in may 2007. It wasn't until April 2008 that they announced their merger with Northwest.


Yep, "Upward and Onward" was the Post-Ch.11 campaign, some of the best times at Delta. A lot of the blocks were put in-place though, and one could say Richard Anderson got the CEO nod because he was open to mergers and opportunities versus Jim Whitehurst.
 
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:38 pm

PANAMsterdam wrote:
I don't think anyone at Northwest Airlines protested when Delta's flight widget was pointing towards the northwest when they unveiled their new livery. To this day i like that (unintentional) nod to their merger partner :)



It points to the NE on the other side. Nod to the Yellowbird?
 
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Re: Why is this 737-800 BBJ in UA Rising Blue colors?

Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:00 pm

It isn’t the same.

But man do I miss that livery. And it was replaced by trash.

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