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Syrian Arab Airlines introduce second A340

Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:54 am

Hey guys,

It seems Syrian Arab Airlines introduced a second 17.5 year old A340, a 600 series, now registered YK-AZB, previously with Mahan Air:

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... nes/edzqxr

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... d-widebody

do they need this much capacity? To where beside DXB? Is it just for cargo?
 
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:58 pm

Maybe for the "airbridge" to Caracas, as Conviasa can't longer operate their A340-200 due to the US embargo on the carrier... However, Maduro has banned all domestic and international flights to/from the country for 30 days effective March 17.
 
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:21 pm

I wonder what the configuration will be.
 
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:27 pm

Blerg wrote:
I wonder what the configuration will be.


45J+ 263Y

It's the old LH cabin, plus some Plasma TV in eco:

https://www.mahan.aero/fr/fly-with-mahan/seat-map
 
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Is it the only airline flying its full schedule now?
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:50 pm

SR380 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
I wonder what the configuration will be.


45J+ 263Y

It's the old LH cabin, plus some Plasma TV in eco:

https://www.mahan.aero/fr/fly-with-mahan/seat-map


But that's the thing, I am wondering if they will keep that configuration.
 
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:01 pm

Can‘t wait to see it, hopefully in full colors.
 
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:38 pm

SR380 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
I wonder what the configuration will be.


45J+ 263Y

It's the old LH cabin, plus some Plasma TV in eco:

https://www.mahan.aero/fr/fly-with-mahan/seat-map

How can it have a LH cabin, when it was a Virgin Atlantic bird ?
 
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:47 pm

Who'd have thought one month ago that the only airline increasing its fleet would be Syrian Airlines?
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:30 am

Is buying a long haul aircraft with 300+ seats really what they need ? Would have thought if they want long haul range, then pure cargo / freighter would be better suited.
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:42 am

Well, I think it's great news - looks like peaceful life in Syria is recovering slowly, once they apparently anticipate increase in travel demand. I'd love to visit peaceful and safe Syria one day - there is so much of mankind's history!
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:52 am

Anrec80 - I don't think there will be many conventional tourists visiting Syria from places which need a long haul aircraft for a long long time. There are probably other more important reasons why the Syrians purchased this plane
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:14 am

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Anrec80 - I don't think there will be many conventional tourists visiting Syria from places which need a long haul aircraft for a long long time. There are probably other more important reasons why the Syrians purchased this plane


I would say place purchased between quotation marks when you know they got it from Mahan. Political move more than anything else.
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:56 am

They sure need the capacity, maybe not in one bird like this, but their entire network is flown with two aircraft if I am not mistaken. And since no other carriers other than Cham fly to Syria, you kinda get the point.

I have Syrian friends here in Russia that go back to visit relatives flying through Beirut and then a nice bus ride. The direct flights from Russia are full, twice a week I think, and expensive.
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:58 am

Syria has huge potential, including in the tourism industry. I'm not sure that necessitates the use of long haul wide-body aircraft at this time, but as SyrianAir is not a traditional profit-seeking business it isn't surprising that they would operate them. I'm interested as to where they'll be flying!
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:02 am

What are limitations for Syria to obtain spare parts, maintenance support for A340s? Maybe this is a long shot, but if they can service their fleet without much hassle, then they can also use it to obtain spare parts / maintenance support for Mahan Air (other Iranian operators)?

1 A340-300 and 1 A340-600 do not make sense, but Mahan Air has 4 A340-300 and 6 A340-600 (assuming 1 went to Syrian Arab Airlines) and that does make some sort of sense to me.

Nonetheless, I wish them many happy landings and problem free operations. I see their A340-300 in the DXB frequently and it is nice and unique airline to spot.

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Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:19 am

oldJoe wrote:
SR380 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
I wonder what the configuration will be.


45J+ 263Y

It's the old LH cabin, plus some Plasma TV in eco:

https://www.mahan.aero/fr/fly-with-mahan/seat-map

How can it have a LH cabin, when it was a Virgin Atlantic bird ?

Well the C45Y263 came from Mahan (the previous owner), nothing to do here with LH.
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:20 am

Caymanair wrote:
Syria has huge potential, including in the tourism industry.

I don't think that Syria is a ideal place for tourists.
[well unless you want some US-made missiles suddenly explode just above of your head]
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:38 am

The A340-300's are ex LH, hence those interiors completely different to the ex VS A340-600's.
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:50 am

Antaras wrote:
Caymanair wrote:
Syria has huge potential, including in the tourism industry.

I don't think that Syria is a ideal place for tourists.
[well unless you want some US-made missiles suddenly explode just above of your head]


That is the case today, with the American intervention. It has not always been the case in the past and I trust it won't be the case for the rest of eternity.

It certainly is an interesting place to explore, and some travelers do that even now. As things return to some level of normalcy, Damascus can generate travel as a business destination (always plenty of cash flowing in reconstruction) and for those interested in the history and culture. The infrastructure also exists with high standards of lodging and services for guests from all over.

So apart from Dubai and Caracas, where else might we see the A340? Do sanctions create restrictions similar to Iran in terms of operating and maintaining western aircraft, or are they more flexible?
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:11 pm

SR380 wrote:
45J+ 263Y

It's the old LH cabin, plus some Plasma TV in eco:

https://www.mahan.aero/fr/fly-with-mahan/seat-map


That's the Airbus A300 cabin - A340 still in VS layout:




eta unknown wrote:
The A340-300's are ex LH, hence those interiors completely different to the ex VS A340-600's.


True, but these A340-300 have different interiors to LH:




TKflyer wrote:
Can‘t wait to see it, hopefully in full colors.


Will look like this, but only a bit looonger... :duck:

5528043
 
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Re: Syrian Arab Airlines introduce second A340

Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:48 pm

debonair wrote:
SR380 wrote:
45J+ 263Y

It's the old LH cabin, plus some Plasma TV in eco:

https://www.mahan.aero/fr/fly-with-mahan/seat-map


That's the Airbus A300 cabin - A340 still in VS layout:




eta unknown wrote:
The A340-300's are ex LH, hence those interiors completely different to the ex VS A340-600's.


True, but these A340-300 have different interiors to LH:




TKflyer wrote:
Can‘t wait to see it, hopefully in full colors.


Will look like this, but only a bit looonger... :duck:

5528043


Sorry for the mistake. So Mahan 343 have the old LH cabin and the 346 have the old VS cabin, right?


What about Syrian 343 cabins? Has it been refurbished? it looks new.
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:40 pm

Very difficult to tell the truth...

Pictures from the past clearly showing LH interior, since then they seem to have been reconfiguered - see pics posted!

Yes, ex VS -600 still have herringbone, BUT again, at least one a/c seems to have undergone modifications to mini-suites.
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:09 am

Antaras wrote:
Caymanair wrote:
Syria has huge potential, including in the tourism industry.

I don't think that Syria is a ideal place for tourists.
[well unless you want some US-made missiles suddenly explode just above of your head]


He said it has potential, not that it's a good place to visit right now. Once the war is over and the security situation is under control a lot of people will be interested to go there, myself included. I was in Lebanon last year and went to the northern city of Tripoli, which is just 10 miles from the Syrian border and I imagine Syria has a similar atmosphere - good food, shisha and beautiful countryside.

In any case I'm glad to see that the situation, at least in some parts of the country, is better now and life is starting to return. The Syrian A340 is a sign of that and I think it makes sense given that these aircraft are cheap and very capable. Since they are a very small airline, at first they will probably concentrate on providing services to places like Dubai where passengers can connect to/from other destinations.
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:47 pm

I visited Syria years ago, and I hold amazing memories of my time there. A truly beautiful country, steeped in history with such incredible heritage and history. It has monuments like few other places.
I remember Damascus and Aleppo as very vibrant, safe, pleasant cities. The food was simply superb, and I don't think I have ever been to a friendlier place. People were literally inviting me to their homes for tea just because I was a foreigner interested in their country and their culture. It was one memorable trip.
I am sure the war has taken its toll not only on the poor people, but also on the already frail infrastructure. I am sure it will be sadly many years before Syria will once again be in a position to be welcoming visitors.
 
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Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:56 am

I'm a syrian
It shows up as an A340-300 now
 
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I'm a syrian
It shows up as an A340-300 now


Showing up where?
 
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Sad but YK–AZB is an ex OA Airbus A340–313 msn 280.
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Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:43 pm

Good cargo capability from Russia and China, looking like a passenger flight.
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Good cargo capability from Russia and China, looking like a passenger flight.


With many Syrian living abroad and trunk route like DXB it's "also" "maybe" to serve those?
 
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It's always nice to see an A340 get a new life!!
 
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SR380 wrote:
keesje wrote:
Good cargo capability from Russia and China, looking like a passenger flight.


With many Syrian living abroad and trunk route like DXB it's "also" "maybe" to serve those?


The Syrians even say they want to use it to China. For tourism? Or do many Syrians live in China?
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keesje wrote:
SR380 wrote:
keesje wrote:
Good cargo capability from Russia and China, looking like a passenger flight.


With many Syrian living abroad and trunk route like DXB it's "also" "maybe" to serve those?


The Syrians even say they want to use it to China. For tourism? Or do many Syrians live in China?


The same reason Mahan Air operate flights to Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and Shenzhen. China is a friend of the regime(s), freight, students, business travel, political travel etc...
 
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Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:00 am

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It's always nice to see an A340 get a new life!!


And their now plentiful supply of them with VS retiring there fleet, and LH reducing there fleet down.

In though officially most of these countries can’t current buy them, I’m sure there will be an few that make there ways through the back doors into these countries.
 
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Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:33 am

At least they got the 600 and not the hairdryer variant
 
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The Syrians even say they want to use it to China. For tourism? Or do many Syrians live in China?

For Syrian traders to go to China to buy goods to import to Syria. Like the African flights to Guangzhou (KQ, ET etc). They fly out with rolls of cash and come back with hundreds of kilos of goods. Syrians and Lebanese are inveterate traders, have been doing international business for millennia, look at their history, google Phoenicia. In wartime and postwar recovery this is a vital source of goods, as more conventional supply lines (Europe) become problematic.

As a PS, Iraqi Airways aren’t really considered a long haul specialist but they have two 747s and at least one A330 doing Beijing, Guangzhou and Kuala Lumpur, same thing.
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cedarjet wrote:
keesje wrote:
The Syrians even say they want to use it to China. For tourism? Or do many Syrians live in China?

For Syrian traders to go to China to buy goods to import to Syria. Like the African flights to Guangzhou (KQ, ET etc). They fly out with rolls of cash and come back with hundreds of kilos of goods. Syrians and Lebanese are inveterate traders, have been doing international business for millennia, look at their history, google Phoenicia. In wartime and postwar recovery this is a vital source of goods, as more conventional supply lines (Europe) become problematic.

As a PS, Iraqi Airways aren’t really considered a long haul specialist but they have two 747s and at least one A330 doing Beijing, Guangzhou and Kuala Lumpur, same thing.


Maybe it's a good sign then & hopefully there will be many more. Attractively priced good reasonably fresh WB's & engonez all around..
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Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:34 pm

cedarjet wrote:
As a PS, Iraqi Airways aren’t really considered a long haul specialist but they have two 747s and at least one A330 doing Beijing, Guangzhou and Kuala Lumpur, same thing.


I find quite impressive to see the number of flights between middle east and Kuala Lumpur. I'm wondering what the main driving force are for those links. I obviously see some amount of religious traffic to Saudi Arabia. There is apparently also impressive number of middle eastern traders going there. I'm naively asking what seems to make KL such a trade hub. Is it a market place to an extant I'm not aware of? Is there particularly welcoming visa policy in Malaysia? Something else?
 
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At least they got the 600 and not the hairdryer variant

The hairdryer variant uses less fuel and is much easier to fill. The A340-600 is a big plane. I think it is almost as big as a 777-9 therefore it is less versatile.
 
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Something else?

Malaysians working in the Middle East. For the same reason there are many flights between the Middle East and India, Bangladesh, Philippines and Indonesia.
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claytonyu wrote:
At least they got the 600 and not the hairdryer variant

The hairdryer variant uses less fuel and is much easier to fill. The A340-600 is a big plane. I think it is almost as big as a 777-9 therefore it is less versatile.


That it is, but when the country, which isn't all that small population-wise only has like 4 operational airliners and no foreign airlines flying to them yet, if they play their cards right they can make it work.

Use narrowbodies for feeding pax to DAM and then use this bird on routes to DXB or MOW for example. With reasonably priced fares, that is. According to my Syrian buddies the current option to get for example to Moscow is pay close to $1000 for a direct flight, or enjoy a "fun" bus ride filled with adventures to Beirut and then go where you want from there.

Plus I don't think for Syria it will make much difference in operating costs 343 vs. 346. Don't know the fuel burn (anyone help out?), but guessing it's a difference of maybe 1ton/hour between the two at the A343's MTOW of 275t? (Comparing full 343 vs. a 346 filled to the 343's capacity.)
Jet fuel Isn't that expensive in Syria and the airline and the government will work something out ;)

Economic rules have a funny way of working in some places sometimes.
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tu204 wrote:
blacksoviet wrote:
claytonyu wrote:
At least they got the 600 and not the hairdryer variant

The hairdryer variant uses less fuel and is much easier to fill. The A340-600 is a big plane. I think it is almost as big as a 777-9 therefore it is less versatile.


That it is, but when the country, which isn't all that small population-wise only has like 4 operational airliners and no foreign airlines flying to them yet, if they play their cards right they can make it work.

Use narrowbodies for feeding pax to DAM and then use this bird on routes to DXB or MOW for example. With reasonably priced fares, that is. According to my Syrian buddies the current option to get for example to Moscow is pay close to $1000 for a direct flight, or enjoy a "fun" bus ride filled with adventures to Beirut and then go where you want from there.

Plus I don't think for Syria it will make much difference in operating costs 343 vs. 346. Don't know the fuel burn (anyone help out?), but guessing it's a difference of maybe 1-1,5t between the two at the A343's MTOW of 275t? (Comparing full 343 vs. a 346 filled to the 343's capacity.)
Jet fuel Isn't that expensive in Syria and the airline and the government will work something out ;)

Economic rules have a funny way of working in some places sometimes.


How come Iran can help secure "new" A343 but can't help to fix their A32S?

Just asking...
 
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SR380 wrote:
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blacksoviet wrote:
The hairdryer variant uses less fuel and is much easier to fill. The A340-600 is a big plane. I think it is almost as big as a 777-9 therefore it is less versatile.


That it is, but when the country, which isn't all that small population-wise only has like 4 operational airliners and no foreign airlines flying to them yet, if they play their cards right they can make it work.

Use narrowbodies for feeding pax to DAM and then use this bird on routes to DXB or MOW for example. With reasonably priced fares, that is. According to my Syrian buddies the current option to get for example to Moscow is pay close to $1000 for a direct flight, or enjoy a "fun" bus ride filled with adventures to Beirut and then go where you want from there.

Plus I don't think for Syria it will make much difference in operating costs 343 vs. 346. Don't know the fuel burn (anyone help out?), but guessing it's a difference of maybe 1-1,5t between the two at the A343's MTOW of 275t? (Comparing full 343 vs. a 346 filled to the 343's capacity.)
Jet fuel Isn't that expensive in Syria and the airline and the government will work something out ;)

Economic rules have a funny way of working in some places sometimes.


How come Iran can help secure "new" A343 but can't help to fix their A32S?

Just asking...


Good question. Doubt it is not an issue with sanctions or finances.

Again, not firsthand but from what I've heard there is some strange relationship of a not so friendly type with Cham.

Not Syrian so couldn't grasp what I was told, but something to do with the management/owners of Syrian Arab Airlines and Cham being from different groups, both with some influence and pissing on each other.

Edit: The info bout the pissing match between the two is about 1,5 years old. Maybe they sat down, smoked some shisha and figured out their differences.
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Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:26 pm

The Syria of the past is gone.
Cities and sights are mostly destroyed with the exception of Damascus as it's Assad's playground. It's not the US who caused the disasterous situation in Syria, it's a reckless Syrian dictatorship that is remotely controlled from Tehran and Moscow and adds an extra flavor of Assad craziness.
No doubt, the US cause a lot of problems in the Arab world but Syria is far beyond that point.

Besides the political real, I'd love to see the 346 in the Syrian livery.
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Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:30 pm

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Syria has huge potential, including in the tourism industry.

I don't think that Syria is a ideal place for tourists.
[well unless you want some US-made missiles suddenly explode just above of your head]


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Does the A340-600 have enough range to reach Sydney?
 
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Does the A340-600 have enough range to reach Sydney?

DAM-SYD is 14,075km, A346 maximum range is 14,450km.
Well we can consider it as "impossible" as the route's distance is quite close to Aib's announced ranged of the A346.
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So is YK-AZB the old Olympic 300 or the Mahan 600?
 
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tu204 wrote:
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tu204 wrote:

That it is, but when the country, which isn't all that small population-wise only has like 4 operational airliners and no foreign airlines flying to them yet, if they play their cards right they can make it work.

Use narrowbodies for feeding pax to DAM and then use this bird on routes to DXB or MOW for example. With reasonably priced fares, that is. According to my Syrian buddies the current option to get for example to Moscow is pay close to $1000 for a direct flight, or enjoy a "fun" bus ride filled with adventures to Beirut and then go where you want from there.

Plus I don't think for Syria it will make much difference in operating costs 343 vs. 346. Don't know the fuel burn (anyone help out?), but guessing it's a difference of maybe 1-1,5t between the two at the A343's MTOW of 275t? (Comparing full 343 vs. a 346 filled to the 343's capacity.)
Jet fuel Isn't that expensive in Syria and the airline and the government will work something out ;)

Economic rules have a funny way of working in some places sometimes.


How come Iran can help secure "new" A343 but can't help to fix their A32S?

Just asking...


Good question. Doubt it is not an issue with sanctions or finances.

Again, not firsthand but from what I've heard there is some strange relationship of a not so friendly type with Cham.

Not Syrian so couldn't grasp what I was told, but something to do with the management/owners of Syrian Arab Airlines and Cham being from different groups, both with some influence and pissing on each other.

Edit: The info bout the pissing match between the two is about 1,5 years old. Maybe they sat down, smoked some shisha and figured out their differences.


Thanks for the reply. Although, do you really think that Mahan Air or Iran Air would refused cash to overhaul 4 A32S because their customer (Syrian Air) are in some king of childishness fist fight with another airline (Cham)? If that was the case why would they risk even more sanctions by importing A343 through shell companies in Chad and Kazakhstan?

What is their current short to medium haul network BTW?

Did they ever reintroduce ATRs like they were supposed to a couple of month ago?

Have we heard anything new on the potential order for 15 to 20 MC-21?

Cheers

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