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Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:48 pm

It's currently descending to Verona (VRN).

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Re: Unidentified DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:50 pm

This is probably the Samaritan's Purse DC-8 used for humanitarian aid flights
 
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Re: Unidentified DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:52 pm

Supporting their medical teams already in Italy with additional supplies

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Re: Unidentified DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:53 pm

Newark727 wrote:
This is probably the Samaritan's Purse DC-8 used for humanitarian aid flights


Never heard of it before.

 
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Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:19 pm

I find it interesting that a DC-8 is still flying when newer jets are getting parked. Great job in building these Mr Douglas
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Re: Unidentified DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:14 pm

SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
Newark727 wrote:
This is probably the Samaritan's Purse DC-8 used for humanitarian aid flights


Never heard of it before.



We had them here after a wildfire burned down several hundred houses. They offer help, but they preach at you the whole time.
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Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:29 pm

sunking737 wrote:
I find it interesting that a DC-8 is still flying when newer jets are getting parked. Great job in building these Mr Douglas


I believe this bird has CM56 engines so it has plenty of spare parts readily available
 
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Re: Unidentified DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:31 pm

Spacepope wrote:
SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
Newark727 wrote:
This is probably the Samaritan's Purse DC-8 used for humanitarian aid flights


Never heard of it before.



We had them here after a wildfire burned down several hundred houses. They offer help, but they preach at you the whole time.


.... preach all the time ? Can you tell me more ?
 
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Re: Unidentified DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:47 pm

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.. preach all the time ? Can you tell me more ?


I believe it's an evangelical Christian organization, they may bring missionaries along with the aid
 
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Re: Unidentified DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:48 pm

oldJoe wrote:
Spacepope wrote:
SpaceshipDC10 wrote:

Never heard of it before.



We had them here after a wildfire burned down several hundred houses. They offer help, but they preach at you the whole time.


.... preach all the time ? Can you tell me more ?


It's an Evangelical Christian organization. They are charity who assist across the world, although their goal is also to evangelize those they assist.

Their mission statement:(emphasis mine)
Samaritan’s Purse is a nondenominational evangelical Christian organization providing spiritual and physical aid to hurting people around the world. Since 1970, Samaritan’s Purse has helped meet needs of people who are victims of war, poverty, natural disasters, disease, and famine with the purpose of sharing God’s love through His Son, Jesus Christ. The organization serves the Church worldwide to promote the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:59 pm

A strange one this. A church with an aircraft, and a dedicated(yet small) team of Cabin Crew, flight crew, ground crews and engineers, all of whom are not surprisingly, devote Christians.
 
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Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:05 pm

Their CEO is Franklin Graham, son of the late Billy Graham. Samaritan's Purse has been around for decades. They are not shy about going to some of the world's high-risk areas to give aid & comfort to those who are suffering.
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Re: Unidentified DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:07 pm

janders wrote:
Supporting their medical teams already in Italy with additional supplies

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Nice looking plane.

Sadly never got to fly on a DC-8. They were all but retired by the time I was born.
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Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:52 pm

Well, if they are there to do a very good job. A helping hand is always welcome. Whatever their religion they are practising.
 
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Re: Unidentified DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:06 am

Newark727 wrote:
oldJoe wrote:
.. preach all the time ? Can you tell me more ?


I believe it's an evangelical Christian organization, they may bring missionaries along with the aid

Indeed. Aid with strings attached. But they do have the deep pockets to run the aircraft to Africa on a regular basis.
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Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:16 am

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A strange one this. A church with an aircraft, and a dedicated(yet small) team of Cabin Crew, flight crew, ground crews and engineers, all of whom are not surprisingly, devote Christians.


Probably a lot of ex-5X pilots to draw from, as UPS until the late 2000s operated a sizable fleet of DC-8s, which were finally replaced by secondhand MD-11s (they operated nearly half the remaining DC-8s in the world, at the time UPS retired them). This particular frame originally was built at the end of 1968 and delivered to Finnair in early 1969. The nice thing about this frame is that because cost of ownership is cheap, it can just be parked awaiting a mission like this. It could fly for at least another 10 years, and then a 767 could replace it. In 2025, that could be really interesting, especially since the 767 will still be in production by then in all likelihood, and N782SP would be up for its ninth heavy check. (Engine parts could come from retired A340s.)
 
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Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:32 am

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mattyfitzg wrote:
A strange one this. A church with an aircraft, and a dedicated(yet small) team of Cabin Crew, flight crew, ground crews and engineers, all of whom are not surprisingly, devote Christians.


Probably a lot of ex-5X pilots to draw from, as UPS until the late 2000s operated a sizable fleet of DC-8s, which were finally replaced by secondhand MD-11s (they operated nearly half the remaining DC-8s in the world, at the time UPS retired them). This particular frame originally was built at the end of 1968 and delivered to Finnair in early 1969. The nice thing about this frame is that because cost of ownership is cheap, it can just be parked awaiting a mission like this. It could fly for at least another 10 years, and then a 767 could replace it. In 2025, that could be really interesting, especially since the 767 will still be in production by then in all likelihood, and N782SP would be up for its ninth heavy check. (Engine parts could come from retired A340s.)

MD-11 definitely wasn’t the DC-8 replacement. Really the DC was just eliminated as the economy collapsed. As growth started back it got back filled by 767s, pushing the 757s to the smaller gateways.
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Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:17 am

It looks like it left, currently off the coast of Ireland westbound.
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Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:35 am

Currently trackable on FR24 as of 0935UTC https://fr24.com/DC87/244023ba

I recently saw an ad recruiting pilots. A requirement was 12 hours of college level biblical studies. Also point number one on the list of "Essential duties" expected of their pilots wasn't the safe operation of an aircraft as you would expect, but "Maintain a personal, active relationship with Jesus Christ and is a consistent witness for Jesus Christ." Performing pilot duties came second.

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Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:44 am

One project their programmes you may have heard of is the "Christmas Shoe Box".
 
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Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:08 am

We still have a freedom of religion amendment in the Constitution. And they'd be a non-profit regardless of the religion aspect. Takes a lot of faith (regardless of what you or I believe) to fly into some of the area they go to. Good for them.
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    Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

    Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:44 pm

    Some are quick o criticise.

    Would be interesting to see what they are doing?.
     
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    Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:37 pm

    This is an aviation forum, which is a place where aviation is discussed. Other discussion belongs in Non Av.

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    Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

    Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:42 pm

    She is inbound to IAD. I'm going to try and catch her when she gets in here, though she really couldn't pick a worse time with the sun directly overhead :D

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    Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:45 pm

    Antarius wrote:

    Sadly never got to fly on a DC-8. They were all but retired by the time I was born.


    I'm just old enough to have been able to fly on them in 1982 just before both major Canadian airlines retired theirs. Both on CP Air, a -63 YOW-YVR and a standard body home (can't remember if it was a -40 or -50 but I believe the 43s were gone by then). Both with the original "straight pipe" engines (low-bypass turbofans). Both memorable rides. Got to visit the front office in the -63, over the rockies on a moonlit winter night, a magical experience. The shorty was a nicer ride than the stretch though.

    Alas it's the 707 that I've never experienced but would have liked to. Neither of Canada's majors had them. A couple of LCCs and secondary carriers had them briefly, and of course BOAC/BA/AF and others flew them regularly to Canada, but by the time I started to travel overseas, they were gone.

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    Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:52 pm

    bennett123 wrote:
    Some are quick o criticise.

    Would be interesting to see what they are doing?.

    There is a 20 March article in Airlinerwatch that says the plane carried a 68 bed mobile hospital and 32 relief workers including doctors and nurses (it's a combi).The hospital is to operate for three months in Cremona. SP did this in the northern Bahamas after the hurricane.
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    Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:18 pm

    aemoreira1981 wrote:
    mattyfitzg wrote:
    A strange one this. A church with an aircraft, and a dedicated(yet small) team of Cabin Crew, flight crew, ground crews and engineers, all of whom are not surprisingly, devote Christians.


    Probably a lot of ex-5X pilots to draw from, as UPS until the late 2000s operated a sizable fleet of DC-8s, which were finally replaced by secondhand MD-11s (they operated nearly half the remaining DC-8s in the world, at the time UPS retired them). This particular frame originally was built at the end of 1968 and delivered to Finnair in early 1969. The nice thing about this frame is that because cost of ownership is cheap, it can just be parked awaiting a mission like this. It could fly for at least another 10 years, and then a 767 could replace it. In 2025, that could be really interesting, especially since the 767 will still be in production by then in all likelihood, and N782SP would be up for its ninth heavy check. (Engine parts could come from retired A340s.)


    I wonder where the pilots go for refreshers. There can't be too many people offering training on DC-8s these days.
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    Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:27 pm

    How does this organization use the DC-8 in so many parts of the world, when the early era jets (Dc-8, 707, etc.) have not so great runway performance compared to today's jets ? Can the DC-8 access the same number of airports as the 737, and would it be as safe ?

    Also, would it be cheaper for them to operate a 737-BCF (based on an old, used 737) instead of this outdated DC-8 ? Although a user did explain in a post above why the DC-8 makes sense, I still don't think it's a good idea to use such an outdated aircraft (for safety & efficiency purposes). They probably might save a lot of money making the switch to a newer, more efficient, more capable aircraft.
     
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    Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

    Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:39 pm

    abcgogo wrote:
    How does this organization use the DC-8 in so many parts of the world, when the early era jets (Dc-8, 707, etc.) have not so great runway performance compared to today's jets ? Can the DC-8 access the same number of airports as the 737, and would it be as safe ?


    What engines used to power those early era jets? What is this DC-8 powered with? Old aircraft doesn't automatically equate to unsafe.


    abcgogo wrote:
    Also, would it be cheaper for them to operate a 737-BCF (based on an old, used 737) instead of this outdated DC-8 ? Although a user did explain in a post above why the DC-8 makes sense, I still don't think it's a good idea to use such an outdated aircraft (for safety & efficiency purposes). They probably might save a lot of money making the switch to a newer, more efficient, more capable aircraft.


    Yessterday, that "outdated" DC-8 flew nonstop from Greensboro to Verona, Italy with its load. The DC-8-72 was built as DC-8-62. If you can answer the two questions above, you'll undestand what it means. As such, the -62 was the longest range DC-8 built. Back in the old days, UA used to fly theirs on JFK-HNL route. Also, how much do you think they paid for the DC-8? How much does it cost them to operate it? How many flying hours does it each months? What could replace it would probably be a 757, not necessarily for the range but for its hauling capacity. Is it cheaply available?
     
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    Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:18 pm

    SpaceshipDC10 wrote:

    What engines used to power those early era jets? What is this DC-8 powered with? Old aircraft doesn't automatically equate to unsafe.

    Yessterday, that "outdated" DC-8 flew nonstop from Greensboro to Verona, Italy with its load. The DC-8-72 was built as DC-8-62. If you can answer the two questions above, you'll undestand what it means. As such, the -62 was the longest range DC-8 built. Back in the old days, UA used to fly theirs on JFK-HNL route. Also, how much do you think they paid for the DC-8? How much does it cost them to operate it? How many flying hours does it each months? What could replace it would probably be a 757, not necessarily for the range but for its hauling capacity. Is it cheaply available?


    Apologies if my post offended you. That said, I was curious to know how an outdated aircraft was used by a charity, especially when newer options are available (at a higher acquisition cost, but I wonder if the easier to maintain/operate factor would justify it).
     
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    Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

    Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:41 pm

    Here she is at Dulles today: Image

    sorry, this is about least heat hazed frame I could find.

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    abcgogo wrote:
    Apologies if my post offended you. That said, I was curious to know how an outdated aircraft was used by a charity, especially when newer options are available (at a higher acquisition cost, but I wonder if the easier to maintain/operate factor would justify it).


    Be sure of that, I'm not offended. My rather straightforward answer was to push into thinking differently than the seemingly obvious of old and outdated. Another charity, Orbis, is operating with a MD-10 that was built in 1973. These aircraft don't spend as many hours in the air as those of airlines. Also, who's footing the bills?
     
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    Starfuryt wrote:
    Here she is at Dulles today: Image

    sorry, this is about least heat hazed frame I could find.

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    Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:21 pm

    DIJKKIJK wrote:
    aemoreira1981 wrote:
    mattyfitzg wrote:
    A strange one this. A church with an aircraft, and a dedicated(yet small) team of Cabin Crew, flight crew, ground crews and engineers, all of whom are not surprisingly, devote Christians.


    Probably a lot of ex-5X pilots to draw from, as UPS until the late 2000s operated a sizable fleet of DC-8s, which were finally replaced by secondhand MD-11s (they operated nearly half the remaining DC-8s in the world, at the time UPS retired them). This particular frame originally was built at the end of 1968 and delivered to Finnair in early 1969. The nice thing about this frame is that because cost of ownership is cheap, it can just be parked awaiting a mission like this. It could fly for at least another 10 years, and then a 767 could replace it. In 2025, that could be really interesting, especially since the 767 will still be in production by then in all likelihood, and N782SP would be up for its ninth heavy check. (Engine parts could come from retired A340s.)


    I wonder where the pilots go for refreshers. There can't be too many people offering training on DC-8s these days.



    I think ATI has a DC8 sim somehwere in Ohio? Actually one of the members here commented about it a few months ago.
     
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    Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:47 pm

    Great work by this charity. Flew numerous trips to the Bahamas after Dorian.
     
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    Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:43 pm

    abcgogo wrote:
    SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
    What engines used to power those early era jets? What is this DC-8 powered with? Old aircraft doesn't automatically equate to unsafe.

    Yessterday, that "outdated" DC-8 flew nonstop from Greensboro to Verona, Italy with its load. The DC-8-72 was built as DC-8-62. If you can answer the two questions above, you'll undestand what it means. As such, the -62 was the longest range DC-8 built. Back in the old days, UA used to fly theirs on JFK-HNL route. Also, how much do you think they paid for the DC-8? How much does it cost them to operate it? How many flying hours does it each months? What could replace it would probably be a 757, not necessarily for the range but for its hauling capacity. Is it cheaply available?


    Apologies if my post offended you. That said, I was curious to know how an outdated aircraft was used by a charity, especially when newer options are available (at a higher acquisition cost, but I wonder if the easier to maintain/operate factor would justify it).


    The old engines have been replaced by A340/A320 CFM56 engines, so now it has a lot more power than as originally built. And very reliable engines, cheap enough to operate and overhaul, etc.
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    Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

    Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:13 am

    BravoOne wrote:
    DIJKKIJK wrote:
    aemoreira1981 wrote:

    Probably a lot of ex-5X pilots to draw from, as UPS until the late 2000s operated a sizable fleet of DC-8s, which were finally replaced by secondhand MD-11s (they operated nearly half the remaining DC-8s in the world, at the time UPS retired them). This particular frame originally was built at the end of 1968 and delivered to Finnair in early 1969. The nice thing about this frame is that because cost of ownership is cheap, it can just be parked awaiting a mission like this. It could fly for at least another 10 years, and then a 767 could replace it. In 2025, that could be really interesting, especially since the 767 will still be in production by then in all likelihood, and N782SP would be up for its ninth heavy check. (Engine parts could come from retired A340s.)


    I wonder where the pilots go for refreshers. There can't be too many people offering training on DC-8s these days.



    I think ATI has a DC8 sim somehwere in Ohio? Actually one of the members here commented about it a few months ago.


    ATI/ABX have a DC-8 sim at ILN and UPS may still have theirs in SDF. I imagine they are mostly used to give prospective pilots their interview sim rides these days.
     
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    Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

    Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:25 am

    Interesting plane. Does anyone know the config of it as it seems to be a combi with the seats on the back (?)
     
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    Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:03 am

    Draken21fx wrote:
    Interesting plane. Does anyone know the config of it as it seems to be a combi with the seats on the back (?)


    Its been a few years but when I saw it it was a majority cargo configuration with about 30 seats in the front in a 3-3 config.
     
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    Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:11 am

    I flew on an AY DC8 charter flight HEL-SEA June 1971.
     
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    Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:26 am

    As Mikhail posted, it came to Dulles today. It also did a similar trip last week to Italy and back, I got it coming into Dulles then:

    ImageSamaritan's Purse Douglas DC-8-72CF N782SP by planespotter2012, on Flickr
     
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    Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:42 am

    Antarius wrote:
    janders wrote:
    Supporting their medical teams already in Italy with additional supplies

    Image

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETpbkMTXgAE ... =4096x4096


    Nice looking plane.

    Sadly never got to fly on a DC-8. They were all but retired by the time I was born.


    I flew on a red BN DC-8-62 in 1980 on a spring break trip to Peru. It's similar to flying on an overnight trip on a 757.
     
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    Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

    Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:43 am

    Aesma wrote:
    abcgogo wrote:
    SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
    What engines used to power those early era jets? What is this DC-8 powered with? Old aircraft doesn't automatically equate to unsafe.

    Yessterday, that "outdated" DC-8 flew nonstop from Greensboro to Verona, Italy with its load. The DC-8-72 was built as DC-8-62. If you can answer the two questions above, you'll undestand what it means. As such, the -62 was the longest range DC-8 built. Back in the old days, UA used to fly theirs on JFK-HNL route. Also, how much do you think they paid for the DC-8? How much does it cost them to operate it? How many flying hours does it each months? What could replace it would probably be a 757, not necessarily for the range but for its hauling capacity. Is it cheaply available?


    Apologies if my post offended you. That said, I was curious to know how an outdated aircraft was used by a charity, especially when newer options are available (at a higher acquisition cost, but I wonder if the easier to maintain/operate factor would justify it).


    The old engines have been replaced by A340/A320 CFM56 engines, so now it has a lot more power than as originally built. And very reliable engines, cheap enough to operate and overhaul, etc.

    The engines on the DC-8 Super 70's are CFM56-2s, the same series that are on the C-135/707-derivatives.
    The engines on the A320 & A340 are CFM56-5s, which include FADEC (hydro-mechanical + some electronics control on the CFM56-2).
     
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    Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

    Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:36 pm

    Additionally, they are looking to purchase another DC-8. They may have purchased the one from Peru last year (N873SJ). It was flown from GSO to VCV last year so it could be sitting around for parts or stored until they do something else with it.
     
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    Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

    Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:25 pm

    LabQuest wrote:
    Draken21fx wrote:
    Interesting plane. Does anyone know the config of it as it seems to be a combi with the seats on the back (?)


    Its been a few years but when I saw it it was a majority cargo configuration with about 30 seats in the front in a 3-3 config.


    Why would they have the windows in the back if the seating is up front?
     
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    Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

    Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:45 pm

    Draken21fx wrote:
    LabQuest wrote:
    Draken21fx wrote:
    Interesting plane. Does anyone know the config of it as it seems to be a combi with the seats on the back (?)


    Its been a few years but when I saw it it was a majority cargo configuration with about 30 seats in the front in a 3-3 config.


    Why would they have the windows in the back if the seating is up front?


    If memory serves me right, on a DC8 Combi the cargo compartment is in the front, and the pax sit in the back.
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    Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

    Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:14 pm

    if one looks at the last picture, the cargo door is visible in the forward section..
     
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    Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

    Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:15 pm

    It probably looks the same as when it flew for ATI. Photos from another of their combis:
    http://classicjettours.com/DC8/Images/14.jpg
    http://classicjettours.com/DC8/Images/12.jpg
    (image linking didn't work)
     
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    Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

    Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:11 pm

    I’m guessing the cockpits have also been upgraded with glass etc?
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    Re: Samaritan's Purse DC-8 flying GSO to Italy

    Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:37 pm

    gk23 wrote:

    Rare picture from another point of view: shows neither shadows nor soot under the wings. (Unlike those old 707s).
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