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Updated: HA To Cancel most Longhaul Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:42 pm

The rumors are circulating that an announcement is eminent.
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:44 pm

Seems prudent given that Ige has effectively ended any travel to/from the state.
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:45 pm

 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:46 pm

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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:47 pm

I mean... Hawaii is forcing all mainland arrivals to quarantine for 14 days. There will be extremely limited traffic demand to/from the mainland. Makes sense
 
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RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:22 pm

The above note was posted by someone on instagram as well. Apparently HA contacted them back and said details on the adjustment of schedules will be released shortly.

Wishing the best to all the wonderful people at Hawaiian!


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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:25 pm

Probably just another "opportunity" for the likes of SWA?
 
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:27 pm

BravoOne wrote:
Probably just another "opportunity" for the likes of SWA?


If you think any of this constitutes an opportunity, you have a very warped sense of perspective........
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RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:30 pm

BravoOne wrote:
Probably just another "opportunity" for the likes of SWA?

UGH, some posters! You know there are people who can potentially loose their jobs with this, and will in part affect communities in HI. Yet, what comes to mind to you is opportunities for SWA?


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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:31 pm

barney captain wrote:
BravoOne wrote:
Probably just another "opportunity" for the likes of SWA?


If you think any of this constitutes an opportunity, you have a very warped sense of perspective........



Barney lets just wait and see what SWA does without any state authority actions.
 
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:35 pm

chepos wrote:
BravoOne wrote:
Probably just another "opportunity" for the likes of SWA?

UGH, some posters! You know there are people who can potentially loose their jobs with this, and will in part affect communities in HI. Yet, what comes to mind to you is opportunities for SWA?


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And your point is? Airlines, be it SWA, UAL, DAL, or whomever, are always looking at the big picture and will move accordingly. Sorry I ruffled your feathers but jobs are not as important as lives. On the bright side, I think this will be a short lived disruption.
 
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:36 pm

Are the staff cuts at HA deep too?
 
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:39 pm

I think you're going to see most Hawaii-US Mainland flights cancelled after Thursday. Who is going to fly here to be quarantined for 14 days??
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:43 pm

A quick check on their website shows the only bookable flight one week from today is HA10 HNL-LAX and its return flight, HA9. FYI, this is usually operated as a turn by the crew.

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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:52 pm

BravoOne wrote:
Probably just another "opportunity" for the likes of SWA?


Yeah an opportunity for SW to end all Hawaiian flying.....no is going to fly to Hawaii to sit 14 days in a hotel room.
 
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:58 pm

It's hard to believe that all mainland / island flying will cease as there are so many things that depend on this lifestream. Are the hotels still open? A lot of the major resorts in LAS are closed now and of course there are thousands of workers unemployed as of this hour so it's not hard to imagine what would happen to the island economy if all transportation to and from would cease. Look no further than LAS, and they still enjoy the benefits of rail and trucking to support the community. It's sh^t sandwidge no matter how you slice it.
 
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:58 pm

BravoOne wrote:
barney captain wrote:
BravoOne wrote:
Probably just another "opportunity" for the likes of SWA?


If you think any of this constitutes an opportunity, you have a very warped sense of perspective........



Barney lets just wait and see what SWA does without any state authority actions.


If Hawaii is requiring quarrantine for 14 days for all arrivals you would likely see WN and other mainland carriers also cease or significantly draw down services to Hawaii. While WN provides inter-island services, their main market for Hawaii flights are to bring people from the mainland to Hawaii. If people from the mainland are no longer going to Hawaii (because they basically cannot), what opportunity do they have?
 
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:22 pm

I’ve been on the Big Island for two weeks and am currently enroute to San Diego on a Southwest flight. Trying to get home to PWM. But I have to layover on the west coast for a few nights because you can’t get to Maine from Hawaii on SW on the same day. (Was going to do a 3 day Vegas stopover, but when the strip closed we changed our tickets to go to SAN. Now things aren’t good there, either)

Hawaii was relatively unscathed by the pandemic compared to the mainland for the last couple weeks. Everything has been open and stores well stocked. Resorts full There is only one confirmed case on the big island.

However, the last two days things have caught up with mainland precautions. The governor has ordered all restaurants, bars, tour groups, beaches closed on Friday night. Other have been closing down, as well as hotel.s. The locals are even protesting at HNL airport demanding mainlanders fly home and spare anymore spred. (There is stigma that mainlanders are the ones who brought the virus to Hawaii. But most confirmed cases in Hawaii have been natives who visited the mainland. )

I flew out here on HA from Boston two weeks ago and the plane was only about 1/4 full. I haven’t seen a flight that light in decades.

They’ve also introduced a two week quarantine for all arriving passengers coming from out of country, or the Mainland USA. To start later this week. They will be expected to stay in their hotel rooms or residence. They will be checked in with daily and face criminal arrest if they leave the room.
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:31 pm

Not to mention Kauai curfew from 9pm to 5am everyday........
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:36 pm

Just a question, will HA continue to operate the 332 to the west coast for cargo shipments to the islands?
 
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:47 pm

910A wrote:
Just a question, will HA continue to operate the 332 to the west coast for cargo shipments to the islands?


Yes.....No.....Maybe.......

Who knows anymore this situation has spiraled so far out of control at this point we are all either going to be dead or homeless.....no one can afford what’s happening right now people need to calm down and live life.
 
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:52 pm

Well if no tourists are allowed to go to Hawaii, kinda defeats the point of mainland flying.
 
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:53 pm

We spoke with family members last night who were scheduled to fly Southwest to Hawaii in a couple of weeks.

They were cancelling their trip.

As they said, why fly to Hawaii if you have to sit in a hotel room for 14 days and not be able go outside beyond the balcony. They can do the same thing at home under the California quarantine.
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:53 pm

Is Hawaii actually enforcing the quarantine? Just for the hell of it I checked the Sheraton Waikiki, and they are most definitely willing to sell me a room for tomorrow. And AA has plenty of cheap fares in F. So I know HI's governor has announced this quarantine, but is it actually being enforced?

And for the record I have no intention of going to Hawaii until all this settles down.
 
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:57 pm

9w748capt wrote:
Is Hawaii actually enforcing the quarantine? Just for the hell of it I checked the Sheraton Waikiki, and they are most definitely willing to sell me a room for tomorrow. And AA has plenty of cheap fares in F. So I know HI's governor has announced this quarantine, but is it actually being enforced?

And for the record I have no intention of going to Hawaii until all this settles down.


For the heck of it I was looking at Marriott room rates on Maui, and besides the Courtyard near OGG and the Residence Inn in Wailea, it appears nothing is bookable on the entire island for the next month or two. I would say hotels are slowly closing shop (or at least closing inventory) as it’s probably being enforced
 
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:01 am

9w748capt wrote:
Is Hawaii actually enforcing the quarantine? Just for the hell of it I checked the Sheraton Waikiki, and they are most definitely willing to sell me a room for tomorrow. And AA has plenty of cheap fares in F. So I know HI's governor has announced this quarantine, but is it actually being enforced?

And for the record I have no intention of going to Hawaii until all this settles down.


Quarantine isn’t in effect yet.
 
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:03 am

9w748capt wrote:
Is Hawaii actually enforcing the quarantine? Just for the hell of it I checked the Sheraton Waikiki, and they are most definitely willing to sell me a room for tomorrow. And AA has plenty of cheap fares in F. So I know HI's governor has announced this quarantine, but is it actually being enforced?

And for the record I have no intention of going to Hawaii until all this settles down.


The new mandate goes into effect 12:01am Thursday and will require all inbound passengers to fill out a form and declare whether they are a resident or visitor and declare where they will be staying for the 14 days. Violators will be subject to misdemeanor and $5,000 fine. Crews will be exempt as long as they stay within secure areas and/or pass health screening before entering secure areas.

Disney’s Aulani closes Thursday. The message is clear. This is not the time to visit Hawaii.
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:06 am

9w748capt wrote:
Is Hawaii actually enforcing the quarantine? Just for the hell of it I checked the Sheraton Waikiki, and they are most definitely willing to sell me a room for tomorrow. And AA has plenty of cheap fares in F. So I know HI's governor has announced this quarantine, but is it actually being enforced?

And for the record I have no intention of going to Hawaii until all this settles down.


Some are closing. Some aren’t. Some cant say yes or no for sure.

Trying to avoid three days in Cali on the way home, we tried to stay an extra two nights in Hawaii. (Left KOA an hour ago) All the hotels I called were either not taking bookings, or were, but told me things could change the next day if the state decides to shut more down.

Decided I had to take my chances and go to the west coast instead of possibly get stuck in Hawaii with no place to stay. And no way home. At least I can drive to Maine from CA
 
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:08 am

barney captain wrote:
The rumors are circulating that an announcement is eminent.


So if it hasn't happened yet would that make it... preeminent?
 
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:16 am

Guam also will have a 14 day quarantine but I don’t have the document to post yet
 
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:49 am

https://www.hawaiianairlines.com/coronavirus

Hawai‘i Governor Ige’s announcement yesterday of a 14-day quarantine requirement for all arrivals to the state effective 12:01 a.m. Thursday, March 26, requires us to make further near-term adjustments to our long-haul schedules. We will maintain our regular flight schedule through Wednesday to allow guests to return home before we begin suspending most of our North America and International routes for the remainder of March, except for one daily nonstop flight between Honolulu (HNL) and Los Angeles (LAX) and one weekly HNL-American Samoa (PPG) flight.

In coming days, we will also be reducing our Neighbor Island schedule – starting with the suspension of ‘Ohana by Hawaiian service between Honolulu and Kapalua in West Maui effective March 25 – but keep a network that will continue to provide vital connectivity for guests traveling within the state. Please read our press release for full details.


The formal press release hasn't been published yet; the link just kicks back to the HA newsroom page.
 
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:01 am

Looks like almost all HA inventory transpac to the States is 0'd out.

HA 2 remains the sold flight with inventory.
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:16 am

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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:19 am

Press release is up at https://newsroom.hawaiianairlines.com/releases/hawaiian-airlines-to-suspend-most-long-haul-passenger-service-due-to-new-state-of-hawaii-quarantine-order:
Hawaiian Airlines, in preparation for a 14-day government quarantine order for all Hawai‘i arrivals set to begin Thursday due to the COVID-19 pandemic, today announced it will maintain its regular flight schedule through Wednesday to allow guests to return home and to accommodate the repatriation of aircraft before finalizing significant reductions of its domestic and international passenger network.

“Hawai‘i is our home and all 7,500 of us at our company care deeply for it,” Hawaiian Airlines President and CEO Peter Ingram said after Hawai‘i Gov. David Ige announced the quarantine plan yesterday afternoon. “We support the state of Hawai‘i’s efforts to quickly contain this illness. We have begun notifying our guests and helping them return home – both to Hawai’i and from Hawai’i. We sincerely appreciate our guests’ patience and understanding during this difficult period for Hawaiian and the state of Hawai’i.”

The airline, which has begun notifying guests about the quarantine rule, has restricted passenger bookings on its network while it finalizes its April schedule. Hawaiian is committed to providing one daily nonstop flight between Honolulu (HNL) and Los Angeles (LAX) and its Thursday flight between HNL and American Samoa (PPG) in order to provide a baseline of out-of-state access. The airline will evaluate its transpacific cargo network and may provide passenger access on any additional flights for travelers willing to undergo the mandated self-imposed quarantine.

Hawaiian will also be reducing its Neighbor Island schedule – starting with the suspension of ‘Ohana by Hawaiian service between Honolulu and Kapalua in West Maui effective Wednesday – but intends to maintain a network that will continue to provide vital connectivity for guests traveling within the state. Interisland cargo service will continue uninterrupted using Boeing 717 jets and a turboprop fleet operated by ‘Ohana by Hawaiian.

Hawaiian continues to experience an unprecedented volume of calls from guests and respectfully asks that only those with immediate travel needs contact the airline for assistance. Options to reach Hawaiian’s reservations team, make online changes to tickets, and details on available travel waivers are available here.

“As Hawai’i’s airline, we take our role to connect the islands with each other and with the U.S. mainland very seriously. This schedule is designed to maintain a minimum level of connectivity for residents’ important needs,” said Ingram. “We will be ready to resume our schedule when the quarantine has been lifted.”
 
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Re: RUMOR - HA To Cancel All Mainland Flying

Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:39 am

So sad. Wish we had hopped on a plane a few days ago to Hawaii. I mean, if I am going to be quarantined, I would rather be in Hawaii.

I know this is going to hit Hawaiian hard, but I really hope when this is all over with, the airlines get back to normal.
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