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Will airlines end Hawaii service later this week?

Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:42 pm

Flights are still operating today to Hawaii..nearly empty flights in and packed flights out. But will airlines continue to fly to Hawaii once their quarantine starts at 12:01am Thursday? Maybe a token daily flight for HA, UA, AS, WN, etc per day from a hub? It's going to interesting to see how this all shakes out.
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:45 pm

Maybe a few token flights will remain, but very very few would be needed based on inbound demand.


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Re: Will airlines end Hawaii service later this week?

Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:58 pm

HA already has very long quarantines for pets going with their owners, so now they've extended it to the owners too?
Is just me, or is flying not as much fun anymore?
 
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Re: Will airlines end Hawaii service later this week?

Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:14 pm

exFWAOONW wrote:
HA already has very long quarantines for pets going with their owners, so now they've extended it to the owners too?


Arrivals, be they resident OR visitor, are required to quarantine for 14 days.
 
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Re: Will airlines end Hawaii service later this week?

Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:24 pm

HA has already announced they will keep the weekly flight to PPG and 1 daily the LAX. They will still fly inter island albeit a reduced schedule.


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Re: Will airlines end Hawaii service later this week?

Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:26 pm

I could see WN reducing to just OAK and SJC to HNL...maybe one to OGG.

I think a few inter island flights will remain, maybe one early and one late to each of the 4 cities from HNL.

Just a guess, nothing has been decided.
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:27 pm

Are the resort hotels remaining open?
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:55 pm

Good question. Marriott, Hilton and Hyatt all show properties in Honolulu with vacancy next week.
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:19 pm

I would think belly cargo will keep some flights going for United and Delta.
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:29 pm

Dalmd88 wrote:
I would think belly cargo will keep some flights going for United and Delta.

Belly cargo will still be essential to not only Hawaii, but the Islands of Micronesia like Guam where Anderson AFB resides. And where a lot of produce and groceries from Hawaii and the US west coast is shipped.
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:41 pm

I think UA was already planning to drop down to 1 LAX-HNL, 1 SFO-HNL, 1 ORD-HNL, 1 IAH-HNL based on dummy bookings for the 1st week of April. They are relying on HA to get people to the other islands.
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:54 pm

I noticed on seat maps that Delta has blocked the seats at the back of all their LAX-HNL flights... perhaps for cargo?
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:02 pm

The 14 day quarantine for non-residents will be an obvious deterrent for a trip to Hawaii. Hotels will show available just like airlines unless they chose to shut the operation down. Rooms may be used by official government business people or medical staff travel related to the virus programs.
 
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Re: Will airlines end Hawaii service later this week?

Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:05 pm

The quarantine is also for returning residents.
 
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Re: Will airlines end Hawaii service later this week?

Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:06 pm

737max8 wrote:
I could see WN reducing to just OAK and SJC to HNL...maybe one to OGG.

I think a few inter island flights will remain, maybe one early and one late to each of the 4 cities from HNL.

Just a guess, nothing has been decided.

WN will/has suspended all flying to PR/SJU until May 3

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... 0-03may20/

Wonder if they will take a similar approach to HI flying.


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Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:11 pm

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"I think UA was already planning to drop down to 1 LAX-HNL, 1 SFO-HNL, 1 ORD-HNL, 1 IAH-HNL based on dummy bookings for the 1st week of April. They are relying on HA to get people to the other islands."

Please quote your source.
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:17 pm

friendlyskies22 wrote:
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"I think UA was already planning to drop down to 1 LAX-HNL, 1 SFO-HNL, 1 ORD-HNL, 1 IAH-HNL based on dummy bookings for the 1st week of April. They are relying on HA to get people to the other islands."

Please quote your source.


ericm is correct though UA is also maintaining 1 DEN-HNL with the 757-200. UA will also be maintaining 1-2 flights to KOA and OGG.
Source is internal schedule updates.

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Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:20 pm

friendlyskies22 wrote:
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"I think UA was already planning to drop down to 1 LAX-HNL, 1 SFO-HNL, 1 ORD-HNL, 1 IAH-HNL based on dummy bookings for the 1st week of April. They are relying on HA to get people to the other islands."

Please quote your source.


Sabre for one.

16APRHNLLAX‡UA«
06APR MON HNL/HST LAX/PDT‡3
1UA 534 J9 C9 D9*HNLLAX 8 1030P 641A‡1 777 S/G 0 DCA /E
Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9

06APR MON HNL/HST SFO/PDT‡3
1UA 724 J9 C9 D9 Z9*HNLSFO N 126P 927P 777 L/F 0 DCA /E
P9 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9

16APRHNLORD‡UA«
06APR MON HNL/HST ORD/CDT‡5
1UA 218 J9 C9 D9 Z9*HNLORD 8 515P 631A‡1 763 D/F 0 DCA /E
P9 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9

etc etc

this is the only one I can find out of Kona

16APRKOASFO‡UA«
06APR MON KOA/HST SFO/PDT‡3
1UA 643 J0 C0 D0*KOASFO N 952P 556A‡1 739 S/G 0 DCA /E
Z0 P0 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9

and OGG seems to have only 1 flight as well.
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Re: Will airlines end Hawaii service later this week?

Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:25 pm

friendlyskies22 wrote:
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"I think UA was already planning to drop down to 1 LAX-HNL, 1 SFO-HNL, 1 ORD-HNL, 1 IAH-HNL based on dummy bookings for the 1st week of April. They are relying on HA to get people to the other islands."

Please quote your source.


As I said, dummy bookings. Try to book a flight and you will see the options.
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:27 pm

I saw a internal memo last week from Marriotts CEO that said expected that at least 20% of their resort properties would not reopen after this. This was not specific to the islands but rather world wide. Sobering.
 
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Re: Will airlines end Hawaii service later this week?

Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:36 pm

Not sure why but April 1 isn't indicative of United's schedule - I checked 4/1, 4/8, 4/15, etc. April 1 is 1 flight. The rest of the dates LAXHNL is 4 flights a day. Same thing happens with SFOHNL. April 1 is 1 flight through April 7 - then April 8 goes up to 4 flights. Maybe it's a rolling thing and they'll cut schedules as the time gets closer.

What I saw for HA interisland is (roughly) a 50% reduction. This is all per Sabre.

Though with the Islands of Oahu and Maui on stay-at-home rules through April 30 schedules could be reduced again.
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:18 pm

I assume Hawaiian Airlines will still receive their final A321neo in the next few weeks, but will they delay the delivery of their Dreamliners? AFAIK they have already renewed some of their leases on A330s, but if someone could confirm I would appreciate it.
 
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Re: Will airlines end Hawaii service later this week?

Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:10 am

The one airline that I can see maintaining service is United, largely for belly cargo purposes, for both their B772s and B764 fleet. Cargo rates have risen to where the right wide-body plane could theoretically carry just belly cargo and be profitable.
 
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Re: Will airlines end Hawaii service later this week?

Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:11 am

I don't think the airline route planners can keep up with the covid-19 news coming out. Costa Rica announced days ago that they were going into lockdown...yet AS just today announced they were temporarily stopping service to LIR and SJO.
 
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Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:33 am

The Marriott Waikoloa (Kona) is shutting down this Thursday. Not sure about other Marriott properties on the Big Island but likely a similar story.
 
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Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:06 pm

Heard that effective April 1st, Alaska is suspending all flights from the West Coast to Hawai except for 1 daily flight between Seattle & Honolulu and 1 daily flight between Los Angeles & Honolulu. Duration uncertain.
 
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Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:34 am

United now seems to be trimming .. I'm watching HNLSFO for an employee .. Thur 3/26 is down to 2 flights, Fri 3/27 is 2 flights, Sat 3/28 is 3 flights .. they haven't trimmed Sunday 3/29 yet - they're still showing 7 flights.

For LAX 3/26 is down to 2, 3/27 is 3, 3/28 is 3 and 3/29 is 4.
 
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Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:41 am

Unable to find a public link but American Airlines is dropping all Hawaiian flights except 2x daily widebody LAX-HNL turns and 1x day LAX-OGG.
 
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Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:23 pm

Well, my guess was pretty close. The Star Advertiser reports WN will reduce mainland flying to 2x daily OAK-HNL and interisland flights will be cut from 4x daily to 2x daily from HNL to LIH, KOA, and ITO, except to OGG which will be 3x daily.

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/03/ ... king-cuts/
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Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:58 pm

Returned yesterday from HNL on AA and flight was 90% full. We stayed in a condo VRBO but the Marriott next door, Disney resort all shut down and kicked guests out. We were right under the flight paths for landing and i kept looking at flightaware and it seems there were 10 planes a day coming over from Japan.
 
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:40 am

PacoMartin wrote:
I assume Hawaiian Airlines will still receive their final A321neo in the next few weeks, but will they delay the delivery of their Dreamliners? AFAIK they have already renewed some of their leases on A330s, but if someone could confirm I would appreciate it.


An A321 showed up at PAE earlier today, but I can't find it on FR24 now. AFAIK, HA has routes all their deliveries through PAE, but it could be in for service at ATS.
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:30 am

WN canceling everything except OAK.
 
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Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:34 am

gunsontheroof wrote:
PacoMartin wrote:
I assume Hawaiian Airlines will still receive their final A321neo in the next few weeks, but will they delay the delivery of their Dreamliners? AFAIK they have already renewed some of their leases on A330s, but if someone could confirm I would appreciate it.


An A321 showed up at PAE earlier today, but I can't find it on FR24 now. AFAIK, HA has routes all their deliveries through PAE, but it could be in for service at ATS.


I don't see any indication that it was a delivery.

HA has a leased fleet of 12 A330s and an owned fleet of 12 A330s. If they are downsizing, the obvious candidates are the leased jets. But I don't know if they will be taking deliveries of the Dreamliners. I understand that the first Dreamliners were to replace A330s to Sydney and Brisbane,

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Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:00 am

Seems DL is keeping there LAX-KOA-LAX for now and canceling SEA-KOA-SEA,and LAX-HNL has seen one flight out of four cancel everyday so far.LAX-OGG-LAX is not operating as of now but does show back up at the end of the month but again who knows what may happen.
 
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Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:29 pm

205 is in PAE for its 2 year check.
230's delivery is on hold due to Covid, but will be delivered.
No plans to retire early any part of the fleet.
787 deliveries are still expected, HAL continues to plan for them. No, BNE and SYD aren't the first routes.
 
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Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:51 am

Just checking flight radar today to see what kind of reductions.... Multiple Alaska,Southwest,Delta and United flights.. Whats the hold up in reducing service??? There is a 14 day quarantine for every tourist they bring to the islands and police are starting to enforce it. These airlines are becoming part of the problem!! It is the airlines responsibility to stop flights and heed govt leaders warnings!!!!
There is no reason to be operating to the islands unless there is cargo in the belly of these aircraft.

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/03/ ... ine-order/

Interisland quarantine starts on Weds:

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/03/ ... wednesday/
 
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Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:06 am

Laulau wrote:
Just checking flight radar today to see what kind of reductions.... Multiple Alaska,Southwest,Delta and United flights.. Whats the hold up in reducing service??? There is a 14 day quarantine for every tourist they bring to the islands and police are starting to enforce it. It is the airlines responsibility to stop flights and heed govt leaders warnings!!!!

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/03/ ... ine-order/


UA has reduced service by over 50% and while they are not carrying many passengers (ORD-HNL had ~10 people on it today) they are flying tons of cargo over to the islands. I would expect that to continue for the duration...

Also keep in mind that there are a number of people who want to leave the islands right now. Should the airlines just strand them by stopping all passenger flights? Should they not allow Hawaiians to return home (and start their 14 day quarantine in their own homes?)
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Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:23 am

United1 wrote:
Laulau wrote:
Just checking flight radar today to see what kind of reductions.... Multiple Alaska,Southwest,Delta and United flights.. Whats the hold up in reducing service??? There is a 14 day quarantine for every tourist they bring to the islands and police are starting to enforce it. It is the airlines responsibility to stop flights and heed govt leaders warnings!!!!

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/03/ ... ine-order/


UA has reduced service by over 50% and while they are not carrying many passengers (ORD-HNL had ~10 people on it today) they are flying tons of cargo over to the islands. I would expect that to continue for the duration...

Also keep in mind that there are a number of people who want to leave the islands right now. Should the airlines just strand them by stopping all passenger flights? Should they not allow Hawaiians to return home (and start their 14 day quarantine in their own homes?)


The slower these airlines suspend service the longer it will take the islands to recover from this pandemic. For those people who are just now wanting to return to the islands? Where have u been?? Have you been ignoring the news for the past 2 weeks! The mainland arrival quarantine has been in effect for almost a week now!

like I said earlier-the only flights that should be in operation are cargo/mail/etc.. flights. The quicker airlines recognize this-i.e Hawaiian the quicker the islands can stem the spread of covid 19.
 
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Re: Will airlines end Hawaii service later this week?

Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:36 am

Just checked Alaska website and it appears all Hawaii flying is off except for
Daily SEA-HNL/OGG/KOA
Less than daily LAX-OGG/HNL and SEA-LIH

If I missed anything, feel free to correct the above
 
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SeaDoo wrote:
Just checked Alaska website and it appears all Hawaii flying is off except for
Daily SEA-HNL/OGG/KOA
Less than daily LAX-OGG/HNL and SEA-LIH

If I missed anything, feel free to correct the above


Why so many flights?? Is there a reason to fly empty planes with very few pax that will be scutanized once they land.
I can see just one flight from SEA or LAX. Are these flights carrying any kind of cargo?
 
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Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:35 pm

Laulau wrote:
SeaDoo wrote:
Just checked Alaska website and it appears all Hawaii flying is off except for
Daily SEA-HNL/OGG/KOA
Less than daily LAX-OGG/HNL and SEA-LIH

If I missed anything, feel free to correct the above


Why so many flights?? Is there a reason to fly empty planes with very few pax that will be scutanized once they land.
I can see just one flight from SEA or LAX. Are these flights carrying any kind of cargo?


Probably not a lot of people but a supplement to UPS and FedEx for all the stuff people are priority ordering from Amazon, who doesn't seem to have any large fulliment centers in Hawaii, for 1 to 2 day delivery.
Also probably a fair amount of perishable cargo/medical supplies that you can't send on a boat going between the mainland and the islands.
 
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Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:37 pm

AAG does significant cargo business, with close ties to Lynden and others. Its cheaper to throw some stuff in the belly of a 737 than it is to buy space on Global/Atlas/FedEx.

Case in point: Look at Juneau, Alaska. Alaska is barely putting on 10-20 people a flight (if even), but the Juneau schedules survived a huge brunt of the schedule reductions across Alaska. Juneau could have easily been served with just the milk run flights or those that make a stop. Instead, they axed 1 nonstop flight a day to Seattle and Anchorage. Its mostly because they are moving a LOT of freight & mail.

They are also very dedicated to Hawai'i and keeping it "linked" thru these times, so I think that's the main reason AAG chose to keep up more flying than Hawaiian and others.
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Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:57 pm

gmcc wrote:
Probably not a lot of people but a supplement to UPS and FedEx for all the stuff people are priority ordering from Amazon, who doesn't seem to have any large fulliment centers in Hawaii, for 1 to 2 day delivery.
Also probably a fair amount of perishable cargo/medical supplies that you can't send on a boat going between the mainland and the islands.


Prime doesn't guarantee 1-2 day delivery in Hawaii. It's 3-4 at best, usually 4-5 days. No clue about now.

Boats go over regularly and it doesn't take as long as you think, usually 5 days. Costco, Safeway etc all use boats to get the majority of the stuff over from the LA area to Honolulu. From there it goes to the other islands.
 
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Laulau wrote:
SeaDoo wrote:
Just checked Alaska website and it appears all Hawaii flying is off except for
Daily SEA-HNL/OGG/KOA
Less than daily LAX-OGG/HNL and SEA-LIH

If I missed anything, feel free to correct the above


Why so many flights?? Is there a reason to fly empty planes with very few pax that will be scutanized once they land.
I can see just one flight from SEA or LAX. Are these flights carrying any kind of cargo?


Tons of cargo, mail, medical supplies ect....things that really can't go by sea. In UAs case it's not just Hawaii as well but freight and passengers are still heading to GUM and Micronesia.

UA has scheduled flights from LAX and SFO to HNL as well as the other islands but is doing day of week cancelations.
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Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:11 pm

my late april SAN-OGG flight was finally cancelled by SWA. was not planning on going obviously... but was hoping to parlay it into some other later high demand date w/ a free change - those were $90 each way tix i scooped up when they announced the route. Wonder if SWA will actually ever fly this route
 
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Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:54 pm

The big air frieght carriers to the islands:
1.) Fedex
2.) UPS
3.) Pacific Air Cargo
4.) Asia Pacific
5.) United (belly)
6.) Hawaiian (belly)
7.) Aloha Air Cargo
8.) Amazon (Atlas)

Chime in anyone who I missed.. But if Im right these planes (Non cargo) are flying empty to the islands.
 
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Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:18 pm

Anyone else find it ironic that Mokulele Airlines now has more flights than any other inter-island operator? 54 flights a day from 100...

https://www.khon2.com/coronavirus/mokul ... -covid-19/
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Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:51 pm

Laulau wrote:
The big air frieght carriers to the islands:
1.) Fedex
2.) UPS
3.) Pacific Air Cargo
4.) Asia Pacific
5.) United (belly)
6.) Hawaiian (belly)
7.) Aloha Air Cargo
8.) Amazon (Atlas)

Chime in anyone who I missed.. But if Im right these planes (Non cargo) are flying empty to the islands.


Yesterday, UA flew 2 777s on SFO-HNL and 1 777 on LAX-HNL. Cumulatively, those 3 flights uplifted over 71,000 lbs of cargo. The vast majority was fresh produce and meat. But there was also medical supplies, pharmaceuticals, blood for transfusion and currency.

All of the items listed above are time sensitive or perishable. You mentioned up thread that the shipping companies carry the majority of cargo to Hawaii. You’re right, but please tell me how Matson or Pasha are going to manage to carry the products I listed above? They can’t. Do you really think the fresh food you see at Foodland, Safeway and Costco came in on a Matson ship?

Moreover, if all the pax/belly carriers suspend Hawaii service, there is no way FX, 5X, KH and K4 will be able to absorb the volumes that were being carried by the US3, HA and AS on top of their own volumes.

What that translates to is shortages of fresh food, lifesaving medicines, blood and organ transplants and currency.

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Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:53 pm

Laulau wrote:
The big air frieght carriers to the islands:
1.) Fedex
2.) UPS
3.) Pacific Air Cargo
4.) Asia Pacific
5.) United (belly)
6.) Hawaiian (belly)
7.) Aloha Air Cargo
8.) Amazon (Atlas)

Chime in anyone who I missed.. But if Im right these planes (Non cargo) are flying empty to the islands.


You missed AA and DL as well as nearly every International pax carrier that serves Hawaii. Though most international pax carriers have suspended service.

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Re: Will airlines end Hawaii service later this week?

Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:43 am

77H wrote:
Laulau wrote:
The big air frieght carriers to the islands:
1.) Fedex
2.) UPS
3.) Pacific Air Cargo
4.) Asia Pacific
5.) United (belly)
6.) Hawaiian (belly)
7.) Aloha Air Cargo
8.) Amazon (Atlas)

Chime in anyone who I missed.. But if Im right these planes (Non cargo) are flying empty to the islands.


Yesterday, UA flew 2 777s on SFO-HNL and 1 777 on LAX-HNL. Cumulatively, those 3 flights uplifted over 71,000 lbs of cargo. The vast majority was fresh produce and meat. But there was also medical supplies, pharmaceuticals, blood for transfusion and currency.

All of the items listed above are time sensitive or perishable. You mentioned up thread that the shipping companies carry the majority of cargo to Hawaii. You’re right, but please tell me how Matson or Pasha are going to manage to carry the products I listed above? They can’t. Do you really think the fresh food you see at Foodland, Safeway and Costco came in on a Matson ship?

Moreover, if all the pax/belly carriers suspend Hawaii service, there is no way FX, 5X, KH and K4 will be able to absorb the volumes that were being carried by the US3, HA and AS on top of their own volumes.

What that translates to is shortages of fresh food, lifesaving medicines, blood and organ transplants and currency.

77H

77H,

Im referring to carriers that DO NOT carry frieght to the islands. I.E 737 operators.
Im aware hence the list of carriers of the importance of these operarors.
Im calling out all these pax carriers like Southwest/Alaska etc..
that have no reason to be flying multiple flights from the west coast with a pax quarantine in effect.

U missed the point of which airlines I was referring to.

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