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EA Flight 1320 - 3/17/70-how it changed flying

Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:16 pm

With the recent focus of attention on the affects of Covid-19 we missed an important landmark event in flying that had it's 50th anniversary on 3/17 - the violent hijacking of EA flight 1379 in 1970. A recent article in the Boston Globe Newspaper's magazine section is about the flight that brought about the first steps in airline security we would have to today. https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/03/20/ ... ight-1320/
That article may have access limits. The article also describes how the airline business was then, including the sexism as to flight attendants and sexual marketing of airlines but also discusses the lives of people involved since that fateful day, several, including the injured pilot who is still alive today (age 93).

This is a link to Wikipedia about basic facts of the flight; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_A ... light_1320

This involved Eastern Airlines shuttle flight #1370 EWR-BOS. The hijacker was able to bring a gun on the plane (a DC-9), he gained access to the cockpit, shot both the pilot, seriously injuring him and killing the co-pilot. The pilot was somehow able to land the plane safely, the hijacker arrested (he would later kill himself in jail). Shortly after this hijacking the first steps of new security procedures and actions would be taken. By fall laws were passed including establishment of Air Marshals, x-ray and metal detectors put into place at airports. To that time for several years, there had been numerous hijackings in the USA, usually involving flights diverted to Cuba. Shortly after the law went into affect, the number of hijackings or attempts dropped to only 1 the next year.
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Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:39 pm

I met Wilbur at a EA crew lounge, kindly introduced by my captain. He was a hero there, everybody knew him. The training center was named after Hartley.
 
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Re: EA Flight 1370 - 3/17/70-how it changed flying

Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:24 pm

Thank you for this very interesting distraction. I never heard about this. I know of the Fed Ex and PSA tragedies but knew nothing of this one. Glad to learn about a few more heroes in the sky.
 
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Re: EA Flight 1370 - 3/17/70-how it changed flying

Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:33 pm

Planeboy17 wrote:
Thank you for this very interesting distraction. I never heard about this. I know of the Fed Ex and PSA tragedies but knew nothing of this one. Glad to learn about a few more heroes in the sky.


Wow, this is the first I've heard of this too. But Wiki says flight # was 1320. Not that it really matters, but which # is correct?

Yeah, that PSA one was just horrific. But what was the FedEx??
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Re: EA Flight 1370 - 3/17/70-how it changed flying

Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:04 pm

cathay747 wrote:
Planeboy17 wrote:
Thank you for this very interesting distraction. I never heard about this. I know of the Fed Ex and PSA tragedies but knew nothing of this one. Glad to learn about a few more heroes in the sky.


Wow, this is the first I've heard of this too. But Wiki says flight # was 1320. Not that it really matters, but which # is correct?

Yeah, that PSA one was just horrific. But what was the FedEx??


The correct 3/17/70 flight number is 1320, sorry for the error (could some mod make the change in the title ?)
 
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Re: EA Flight 1370 - 3/17/70-how it changed flying

Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:17 pm

ltbewr wrote:
cathay747 wrote:
Planeboy17 wrote:
Thank you for this very interesting distraction. I never heard about this. I know of the Fed Ex and PSA tragedies but knew nothing of this one. Glad to learn about a few more heroes in the sky.


Wow, this is the first I've heard of this too. But Wiki says flight # was 1320. Not that it really matters, but which # is correct?

Yeah, that PSA one was just horrific. But what was the FedEx??


The correct 3/17/70 flight number is 1320, sorry for the error (could some mod make the change in the title ?)


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Re: EA Flight 1370 - 3/17/70-how it changed flying

Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:20 pm

cathay747 wrote:
Yeah, that PSA one was just horrific. But what was the FedEx??


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_E ... Flight_705
 
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Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:46 pm

Thanks for posting the article! A nice read during this lockdown.
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:13 pm

When did Eastern stop the shuttle from EWR?
 
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:18 pm

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When did Eastern stop the shuttle from EWR?


They stopped and started EWR Shuttle flights a few times... last time they dropped it would of been 1980 I believe.
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Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:20 pm

northstardc4m wrote:
afcjets wrote:
When did Eastern stop the shuttle from EWR?


They stopped and started EWR Shuttle flights a few times... last time they dropped it would of been 1980 I believe.


Thanks, did the Shuttle have first class in the early days and when did they switch to the 72S? I am also curious if they ever flew the 727. I remember the A300 which I believe was in response to New York Air.
 
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Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:32 pm

The A300-B2s flew LGA-BOS only, IIRC. The 727s flew all the legs, but they also used Electras and DC-9 up to the early ‘80s. When I was there from ‘85, it was A3 and the Boeing’s in shuttle seating. The Electras were used during ATC slowdowns prior to the PATCO strike. Airlines then could fly props VFR.
 
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Re: EA Flight 1320 - 3/17/70-how it changed flying

Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:09 pm

afcjets wrote:
northstardc4m wrote:
afcjets wrote:
When did Eastern stop the shuttle from EWR?


They stopped and started EWR Shuttle flights a few times... last time they dropped it would of been 1980 I believe.


Thanks, did the Shuttle have first class in the early days and when did they switch to the 72S? I am also curious if they ever flew the 727. I remember the A300 which I believe was in response to New York Air.
The shuttle 727-200s were all economy. Some main fleet had first a some were all economy.

All economy 727-100s did show on the Shuttle, mostly as extra section and weekend covers.

721 seat maps 1989:

http://departedflights.com/EA7270889.html

722 same:

http://departedflights.com/EA72S0889.html

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Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:10 pm

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
The A300-B2s flew LGA-BOS only, IIRC. The 727s flew all the legs, but they also used Electras and DC-9 up to the early ‘80s. When I was there from ‘85, it was A3 and the Boeing’s in shuttle seating. The Electras were used during ATC slowdowns prior to the PATCO strike. Airlines then could fly props VFR.


Eastern's last Electras, Shuttle backup (second section) aircraft, were retired in November 1977.
 
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Re: EA Flight 1320 - 3/17/70-how it changed flying

Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:22 pm

That early, I thought later than that based on cockpit conversations over thirty years ago.
 
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Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:43 pm

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
The A300-B2s flew LGA-BOS only, IIRC.


That makes sense, AFAIK there has never been a scheduled widebody flight at DCA.
 
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Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:52 pm

northstardc4m wrote:
The shuttle 727-200s were all economy. Some main fleet had first a some were all economy.

All economy 727-100s did show on the Shuttle, mostly as extra section and weekend covers.

721 seat maps 1989:

http://departedflights.com/EA7270889.html

722 same:

http://departedflights.com/EA72S0889.html



I flew on the 72S from JAX-ATL in 1981 on a Saturday and it was my only Eastern flight ever that didn't have first class, I assumed it was an aircraft substitution from the Shuttle fleet. Are you saying Eastern had regularly scheduled flights in all Y configuration outside the Shuttle?

Do you know what year Eastern replaced the DC9 with the 727/72S on the LGA shuttle flights and did DC9 Shuttle flights have first class?

It's interesting the 727-100 seat maps with all Y have fewer total seats than those with first class. I can't even really tell much of a difference in the cabin layout aside from the seats either, I guess they had extra legroom on the Shuttle.
 
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Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:31 pm

Occasionally there’d be shuttle planes out on “system” trips. I flew them a few times

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