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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:29 pm

UA735WL wrote:
Hi folks,

Bit of a two pronged question, so bear with me

As far as I know, SU and flag carriers of other Eastern Bloc countries operated Soviet airliners quite frequently on various international routes to Western countries. In these instances, did the Soviet types require any sort of special handling when compared to western types of the day?

For example, I'm wondering if a standard underwing pressure fuel nozzle would fit an Il-62 or Tu-154, or if a GPU compatible with a 737 would also work on a Soviet design. For that matter, were they able to burn the same blends of Jet-A as western types?

Logistically speaking, how did these carriers accomplish tasks like unscheduled maintenance? For example: If an Il-62 went tech at JFK, did they have to fly parts and mechanics in from Russia, or did they have contract MX at all their international stations that were trained on Soviet types?

The other part of the question is how many carriers not directly influenced by Moscow operated these airliners? I'm aware of a few:

Aeronica operated a pair of Tu-154M- there are photographs of them at MEX in the database here.

Several smaller Italian carriers operated the Yak-40- does anyone know which ones?

A South American carrier (I believe from Guyana) used a Tu-154 (not sure which variant) into JFK briefly in the 80s/90s (heard as an anecdote on an unrelated thread a while back on here).


Anyone know any more?


Syrianair operated Tu-134s, Tu-154s and Yak-40a well into the 2000s, on both domestic, regional and international flights. (charmingly unrelated anecdote: they were also the 'main' operator on international schedules of the Caravelle, which I think right till the late 80s and early 90s would still venture out to Rome, Athens and Larnaca - alongside the more common Tu-134s/154s and 727s).

Turkish charter outfit Greenair leased and operated a number of Tu-154s in the late 80s.

Ghanaian operator Pan African Airways operated an IL-62M on flights into London Stansted from Banjul in the early 1990s.

Aviogenex of Yugoslavia operated a fairly large number of Tu-134s on intra-European charters -very successfully and also making money with them apparently!- for many years, latterly supplemented by 732s and 722s.

General Air of Germany operated briefly the Yak-40 for domestic flights in the 1970s.

Italy has had several operators of [the same] batch of Yak-40s operating in the '70s and right through the early '90s. As a child I remember seeing the Aertirrena ones at Florence airport. they were nice ante-litteram 'regional' jets with nicely appointed, smart interiors. They were also operated by Avioligure (I believe the first western operator of the type), Alinord (alongside F-28-Mk1000s) and some other more obscure outfits (like AirSettanta), and late in the '90s Italo-Albanian Ada Air.
Let-410s are still operated in Italy by a number of operators who 'offer capacity' to some small second-tier operations, like summer flights to Elba island.

The LET-410 has also been operated by several Venezuelan smaller airlines for many years, mostly on the Caracas-Gran Roque route.

In the '90s (post Yugoslav conflict) Bosna Air of Bosnia operated Yak-42s. I believe the Yak-42 was also used in Macedonia at some point.
 
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:31 pm

Antaras wrote:
Maybe those Russian airframes need some special treatment (software updates, ...). Those "moderation" may come from Western countries, and I guess that those are the reasons why Air Koryo is being banned from EU airspace (the same with Iran when it cannot access new update for its shiny new A332s and A321)


Not sure what you are talking about.... 'software updates'... "moderation"...Air Koryo..? And the sanctions against Iran? what's that got to do with this?
 
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:41 pm

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With regards to handling and mechanical issues, I would venture a guess that, as these were mostly "flagship & prestige routes", and given that the average citizen (not being high up in the Communist party) wasn't allowed to travel or couldn't afford to travel, there would have been a LOT of empty seats for "state security personnel" as well as well-trusted mechanics to travel with the airline, along with perhaps a supply of spare parts.

"For the glory of the Communist party" and all that governmental self-idolizing, I doubt CSA or Malev or LOT or any of the other former Warsaw Pact airlines would let one of their IL-62's go tech and get stuck somewhere, embarrassing the state AND the party. There would have to be back-up systems in place to get their few but loyal passengers back to the home country. Cancellations, delays, and the announcement of, "too bad, this flight isn't operating today. Maybe tomorrow, maybe not, good luck in getting where you're going" would only have been for domestic flights, where outsiders wouldn't have seen it. But a cancelled flight from a western country? With prying eyes shining on why that Soviet-build plane went tech? Never!


Not quite. Yes, some operations to the more remote airports carried mechanics and spare equipment, but most regular ops into normal airports were absolutely normal day-to-day stuff just like any other airline. You would be surprised at how casual and un-political things were at most major European airports in '70s. Connections were frequent, and bear in mind that a lot of those 'free seats' were actually bought by westerners on connecting flights via say BUD/SOF/SVO/OTP/SXF etc etc... It was pretty normal, as the eastern bloc airlines offered regular direct flights to many 'otherwise overlooked' destinations, particularly in Africa (Aeroflot had a HUGE presence, with literally MOST ANY capital served at least weekly with flights scheduled via Malta). These were frequently used by western people, like diplomats, air workers, politicians, teachers, technical and medical staff. Western people could fly cheaply, but these customers brought useful hard currency in the coffers of these airlines - most of which also had interline agreements, as well as code-shares and cooperations with a host of western airlines. PA code-shared with SU.

Cancellations and delays actually happened. Of course. People were put up in restaurants and hotels, and flights re-scheduled. End of story. No dramas. And if a Tu-154 got stuck somewhere, there would most often be some western mechanic at least partially au-fait with said machines. Remember: they were not seen as exotic and uncommon in those days!
 
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:58 pm

Perhaps the quirkiest and shortest lived "Western" operation of a former soviet block type was Brighton City Airways who operated a Czec Van Air Let410 between Shoreham and Paris Cormeilles between March and May 2013.

Remember seeing quite a few Guatemalan registered Lets when I was backpacking that region in the late 90's.
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:03 pm

Beside already mentioned...
Air Mali had several soviet models as IL-18, IL-14 and AN-24.
Congo-Brazzaville flew AN-24.
Alyemda of South Yemen was operator of TU-154.
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:48 pm

UA735WL wrote:
…. did the Soviet types require any sort of special handling when compared to western types of the day?

February 1990, flew on Czech Airlines Copenhagen - Prague. Plan told it would be on a Tu-154, but we boarded an IL-62.

This was exactly three months after the Velvet Revolution.

Two hours later the sun had set and it was dark as night, no light whatsoever on the plane. Also no crews, neither cabin nor flight crews.

But outside through the windows we had been watching a strange show. A tractor brought a strange old cart to the back of the plane. A lot of people were pulling cables or tubes while shouting at each other and scratching their head. Then they removed the cart again. Half an hour later the tractor brought another old cart, and much the same circus performance took place.

After two hours the crews came on board, but all of them - including cabin crews - totally ignored every word from the pax. Sometimes they ran up and down the aisle, but they acted as if the cabin was completely empty. (Well, it almost was empty, load factor around 20%).

But after two and a half hours one engine suddenly was spinning up and started. Light came on in the cabin. The strange cart and the army of head scratching people left the tarmac. Ten minutes later three more engines had started, and we taxied out for an eventless one hour flight to Prague.

Clearly the IL-62 was not a regular visitor at CPH. Wonder if the IL-62 has no APU or it just happened to be inop on that particular flight.
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:46 am

Melbourne wrote:
[quote="UA735WL"

Africa:
Egypt Air operated Ilyushin Il-62, Il-18 and Tu-154 aircraft
Air Cairo (Egypt) still operates Tupolev Tu-204 freighters and pax aircraft which are equipped with RR power plants



I think it's a bit of a stretch to say Air Cairo still operates the TU-204. Last I saw any evidence of them operating was 2 or 3 years ago when they did some Charters fora Muslim Pilgrimage.

If anybody has any info on more recent activity and whether Air Cairo is still operating I would be interested to know. But from the research I have done these Birds seem to be stored indefinitely and will be lucky to fly again.
 
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:10 am

Pentaprism wrote:
Melbourne wrote:
[quote="UA735WL"

Africa:
Egypt Air operated Ilyushin Il-62, Il-18 and Tu-154 aircraft
Air Cairo (Egypt) still operates Tupolev Tu-204 freighters and pax aircraft which are equipped with RR power plants



I think it's a bit of a stretch to say Air Cairo still operates the TU-204. Last I saw any evidence of them operating was 2 or 3 years ago when they did some Charters fora Muslim Pilgrimage.

If anybody has any info on more recent activity and whether Air Cairo is still operating I would be interested to know. But from the research I have done these Birds seem to be stored indefinitely and will be lucky to fly again.


Could be the case, my mistake as it is actually Cairo Aviation not Air Cairo. Although I did see one of their aircraft at Jeddah, KSA around two years ago I would say.
 
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:55 am

UA735WL wrote:
Hi folks,

Bit of a two pronged question, so bear with me

As far as I know, SU and flag carriers of other Eastern Bloc countries operated Soviet airliners quite frequently on various international routes to Western countries. In these instances, did the Soviet types require any sort of special handling when compared to western types of the day?

For example, I'm wondering if a standard underwing pressure fuel nozzle would fit an Il-62 or Tu-154, or if a GPU compatible with a 737 would also work on a Soviet design. For that matter, were they able to burn the same blends of Jet-A as western types?

Logistically speaking, how did these carriers accomplish tasks like unscheduled maintenance? For example: If an Il-62 went tech at JFK, did they have to fly parts and mechanics in from Russia, or did they have contract MX at all their international stations that were trained on Soviet types?

The other part of the question is how many carriers not directly influenced by Moscow operated these airliners? I'm aware of a few:

Aeronica operated a pair of Tu-154M- there are photographs of them at MEX in the database here.

Several smaller Italian carriers operated the Yak-40- does anyone know which ones?

A South American carrier (I believe from Guyana) used a Tu-154 (not sure which variant) into JFK briefly in the 80s/90s (heard as an anecdote on an unrelated thread a while back on here).


Anyone know any more?
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well? I know for a fact that the IL-62 flown by Aeroflot flew into and out of SFO and was fueled there as well. At first they had an adaptor that connected to the airplane then connected to the fuel truck hose connector which they brought with them. One of the flight crew manned .he hose at first, Later? the truck fit right up to the airplane. I guess they flew the airplane into Europe and Asia enough that it made sense to switch to the Western fuel nozzle I also saw an AN124 fueled at SFO when the. y ferried a PW-4084 from SFO to HKG. for a United 777-200ER. the Airplane had a 10K fuel pumper under each wing though I did not see them fueling as they were not on United's ramp but on the Guest parking ramp. I'm not even sure they could turn around on our hangar ramp at the time of day they were there due to the Airplanes we had moving in and out of the hangars. We called it the "Shuffle".. I did watch them take off though..
 
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:03 am

shankly wrote:
Perhaps the quirkiest and shortest lived "Western" operation of a former soviet block type was Brighton City Airways who operated a Czec Van Air Let410 between Shoreham and Paris Cormeilles between March and May 2013.

Remember seeing quite a few Guatemalan registered Lets when I was backpacking that region in the late 90's.


I flew with Van Air on their LET410 between Newcastle and the Isle of Man around then as well, though that was on a lease for a company called Manx2, came back on the Metroliner

Has anyone mentioned Interflug? They had a whole range of soviet types flown to mediteranean resorts (IIRC)
 
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:15 am

AirMitko wrote:
Beside already mentioned...
Air Mali had several soviet models as IL-18, IL-14 and AN-24.
Congo-Brazzaville flew AN-24.
Alyemda of South Yemen was operator of TU-154.


This is coherent with the trend seen in other cases. Congo and South Yemen were socialist states, receiving support from Soviet Union, so they were not really "outside the Eastern Bloc". Mali is a more interesting case as they had a more in-between approach, using their relationship with USSR as a tool to balance French influence.
 
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:44 am

Almost all of you, except one, forgot to mention Interflug (IF). And you have forgotten their IL-62, famously landing (bouncing) in a field a few years ago. In the seventies and eighties I lived near the threshold of the runway at ATH Ellinikon, and I have seen everything, all those Russian stylish birds. You name it, I have seen it. Balkan, CSA, Lot, Aviogenex, Aeroflot, Malev, Interflug. Now you get to see A320, A320, A320 the simplest design imaginable...as if drawn by the hand of a child!
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:46 am

GZM1 wrote:
Almost all of you, except one, forgot to mention Interflug (IF). And you have forgotten their IL-62, famously landing (bouncing) in a field a few years ago. In the seventies and eighties I lived near the threshold of the runway at ATH Ellinikon, and I have seen everything, all those Russian stylish birds. You name it, I have seen it. Balkan, CSA, Lot, Aviogenex, Aeroflot, Malev, Interflug. Now you get to see A320, A320, A320 the simplest design imaginable...


Maybe because the OP question was about Soviet airliners OUTSIDE the Eastern bloc?
 
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:01 am

OK, then, how about Olympic leasing a handful of Balkan TU134s and Tu154s for the municipal elections in 1998 for a few days? Does it count? (The voters had to go to their hometown). One of my colleagues at O.A. flew on a TU154 from IOA to ATH. (I could not think of taking the ATR myself) she said! Two stewardesses were seated in the front laughing delighted at the experience and some passengers, as usual, found something else to complain about: “Olympic is better! “
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:31 am

shankly wrote:
Perhaps the quirkiest and shortest lived "Western" operation of a former soviet block type was Brighton City Airways who operated a Czec Van Air Let410 between Shoreham and Paris Cormeilles between March and May 2013.


Quite a few Let 410s ended up in the west doing all sorts of GA jobs. You still find them here and there. Air Guyane Express (technically still France) has a pair. I count 10 Let 410s that were formerly on the Danish register, 2 of them even delivered new in 1988. 3 flew for the small company Ben Air, who likely used them in the UK (their website still lists 2 Let 410s available for charter).
 
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:41 am

UA735WL wrote:
As far as I know, SU and flag carriers of other Eastern Bloc countries operated Soviet airliners quite frequently on various international routes to Western countries.
The other part of the question is how many carriers not directly influenced by Moscow operated these airliners? I'm aware of a few:
As is clear from the variety of contributions, there is some confusion over the exact meaning of "Eastern bloc"
From a (Western) European perspective, the term Eastern Bloc generally referred to the USSR and its satellite states in the Comecon (East Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, and Albania)*
*Note the absence of Yugoslavia

In Asia, the Soviet Bloc comprised the Mongolian People's Republic, the Socialist Republic of Vietnam, the Lao People's Democratic Republic and the People's Republic of Kampuchea, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, and the People's Republic of China (but arguably only up until the Sino-Soviet split in 1961).

In the Americas, the Communist Bloc mainly comprised the Republic of Cuba, and Grenada.

Note the three different terms, although for many they were interchangeable.

Many states were also accused by the Western Bloc of being in the Eastern Bloc when they were actually part of the Non-Aligned Movement. The most limited definition of the Eastern Bloc would only include the Warsaw Pact states and the Mongolian People's Republic


In parrallel with China going it's own way, both North Korea and North Vietnam achieved greater independence from Moscow, possibly trading that for more reliance on Beijing.
Albania was always an outlier, being the only country in Eastern Europe (besides Greece) that liberated itself without the presence of the Red Army on its soil.
Stalin was "both curious and suspicious about ……[Enver Hoxha / Albania ]"
The english service from Radio Tirana was certainly an eye opener for anyone with a radio capable of picking it up. They took rhetoric to a whole new level.

It is also worth noting that Castro's Cuba was no puppet state either.

To further muddy the waters, there were quite a few Marxist–Leninist states straddling the Second and Third Worlds before the end of the Cold War e.g.
the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen (from 1967),
the People's Republic of the Congo (from 1969),
the People's Republic of Benin,
the People's Republic of Angola
the People's Republic of Mozambique from 1975,
the People's Revolutionary Government of Grenada from 1979 to 1983,
the Derg/People's Democratic Republic of Ethiopia from 1974,
and the Somali Democratic Republic from 1969

I may have missed a few.

Thx as ever to wikipedia for jogging my wayward memory.

TL:DR at one time or another Soviet aircraft ended up flying in some very strange places.
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:40 am

eta unknown wrote:
GZM1 wrote:
Almost all of you, except one, forgot to mention Interflug (IF). And you have forgotten their IL-62, famously landing (bouncing) in a field a few years ago. In the seventies and eighties I lived near the threshold of the runway at ATH Ellinikon, and I have seen everything, all those Russian stylish birds. You name it, I have seen it. Balkan, CSA, Lot, Aviogenex, Aeroflot, Malev, Interflug. Now you get to see A320, A320, A320 the simplest design imaginable...


Maybe because the OP question was about Soviet airliners OUTSIDE the Eastern bloc?



Majority of the carriers mentioned are from nations that belonged to the Eastern Bloc :rotfl: People must have short memory on what constituted Eastern Bloc as it was not necessarily in relation to the geographical location of the said nation.
 
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:29 pm

Ty134A wrote:
Mekong International 2xIL6
Air Kampuchea ?xTU3

LOL, those carriers didn't exist.
Air Kampuchea, or you mean Kampuchea Airlines, and yep I found some pictures of this carrier's Tu-134s:

Mekong Int'l???, I could not find any info about this carrier. There were two "Mekong"-branded carriers, Air Mekong (from Vietnam) operated 4 CRJ-900ERs; and Mekong Airlines (from Cambodia) which operated a single B735:

...and none of them are Soviet-made airframes :confused:
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:49 pm

Melbourne wrote:
Europe:
Olympic Airways (Greece) operated 2 Yakovlev Yak-40 aircraft on domestic services, they also had an Il-62M on leased from Aeroflot at one stage.
Heavy Lift (UK) operated Ilyushin Il-76 freighters and Antonov An-12 freighters
Green Air (Turkey) operated Tu-134 and Tu-154 aircraft
Active Air (Turkey) operated Tu-154 aircraft

Yes, the Greek airline belonged to that exclusive club, leasing two Yak-40s from Italy, I-JAKE and I-JAKI in 1970. However, I don’t think they ever leased an IL-62, I would know it and it has never been discussed in a similar Greek forum. Now, as for Turkey being considered a European country just because a small part of it lies in our continent, no. Turkey is Asia Minor.
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:10 pm

GZM1 wrote:
Melbourne wrote:
Europe:
Olympic Airways (Greece) operated 2 Yakovlev Yak-40 aircraft on domestic services, they also had an Il-62M on leased from Aeroflot at one stage.
Heavy Lift (UK) operated Ilyushin Il-76 freighters and Antonov An-12 freighters
Green Air (Turkey) operated Tu-134 and Tu-154 aircraft
Active Air (Turkey) operated Tu-154 aircraft

Yes, the Greek airline belonged to that exclusive club, leasing two Yak-40s from Italy, I-JAKE and I-JAKI in 1970. However, I don’t think they ever leased an IL-62, I would know it and it has never been discussed in a similar Greek forum. Now, as for Turkey being considered a European country just because a small part of it lies in our continent, no. Turkey is Asia Minor.


I had to google-translate it, but this page says they leased it for a few months in the late 70s:

https://translate.googleusercontent.com ... DANKLz2PCQ

In the late 70s, the board was operated for several months in the Greek company Olympic Airways.


It was CCCP-86455 / RA-86455

A codeshare/lease on flights to Russia perhaps?
 
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:18 pm

Aeroflot did some codeshare-lease-something jobs. There were Aeroflot Il-62Ms with KLM, Air India and JAL markings, and the famous JAL-Aeroflot Tu-114. According to Wikipedia they also did a similar job with Air France on the Il-62, but I can't find any photos of that. Regardless, they were still Aeroflot planes on the Russian register, not really exported.

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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:19 pm

Also there is an active Yak-40 in Ukraine with Motor Sich which, in past times was state transport in Madagascar.
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Re: Soviet Airliners Outside the Eastern Bloc

Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:23 pm

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Ty134A wrote:
Mekong International 2xIL6
Air Kampuchea ?xTU3

LOL, those carriers didn't exist.
Air Kampuchea, or you mean Kampuchea Airlines, and yep I found some pictures of this carrier's Tu-134s:

Mekong Int'l???, I could not find any info about this carrier. There were two "Mekong"-branded carriers, Air Mekong (from Vietnam) operated 4 CRJ-900ERs; and Mekong Airlines (from Cambodia) which operated a single B735:

...and none of them are Soviet-made airframes :confused:



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