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Lion Air Crash on T/O Manila

Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:29 pm

Haven’t seen this shared yet, but it appears that a LionAir aircraft just crashed upon takeoff from Manila. No news articles yet, that I can find.

https://twitter.com/henrywoo/status/124 ... 37958?s=21
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Re: Lion Air Crash on T/O Manila

Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:33 pm

One of their IAI Westwinds.
 
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Re: Lion Air Crash on T/O Manila

Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:40 pm

KE623 ICN-MNL just diverted to CRK.
 
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Re: Lion Air Crash on T/O Manila

Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:46 pm

Eyewitnesses say the plane burst into flames during take off from Manila airport. This source says there were 8 passengers onboard.

https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/03/29/lion- ... -on-board/
 
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Re: Lion Air Crash on T/O Manila

Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:46 pm

The aircraft was carrying medical equipment to NRT.

https://www.airlive.net/breaking-an-air ... a-airport/
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Re: Lion Air Crash on T/O Manila

Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:47 pm

To be clear....this is not Lion Air the airline, rather a Manila based charter company. http://www.lionairinc.com/website/home.html

CNN Phillipnes article: https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/3/29/NAIA-plane-crash-fire.html
 
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Privately owned IAI1124A Westwind overshoots runway at Manila Airport, Philippines

Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:04 pm

On 29 March, a privately owned IAI1124A Westwind (RP-C5880) operated a chartered flight for the Philippine Department of Health reportedly carrying medical supplies. During take-off at Manila airport, however, the aircraft overshot the runway. Eight passengers were on board the aircraft.

https://www.google.be/amp/s/www.aviatio ... pines/amp/
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Re: Lion Air Crash on T/O Manila

Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:35 pm

guppyflyer wrote:
To be clear....this is not Lion Air the airline, rather a Manila based charter company. http://www.lionairinc.com/website/home.html

CNN Phillipnes article: https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/3/29/NAIA-plane-crash-fire.html

No it's not Lion Air. But I think it's not Lionair either.
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Re: Privately owned IAI1124A Westwind overshoots runway at Manila Airport, Philippines

Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:17 pm

So what is the type of aircraft?
Really bound for Haneda?
 
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Re: Privately owned IAI1124A Westwind overshoots runway at Manila Airport, Philippines

Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:25 pm

smolt wrote:
So what is the type of aircraft?
Really bound for Haneda?


As it says in the thread title: IAI-1124A Westwind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Westwind
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Re: Privately owned IAI1124A Westwind overshoots runway at Manila Airport, Philippines

Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:59 pm

scbriml wrote:
smolt wrote:
So what is the type of aircraft?
Really bound for Haneda?

As it says in the thread title: IAI-1124A Westwind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Westwind

And yes, really bound for Haneda; why would you doubt that?

This is the crash plane itself


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Re: Privately owned IAI1124A Westwind overshoots runway at Manila Airport, Philippines

Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:20 pm

It's also been reported in the NY Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/worl ... e=Homepage
 
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Re: Privately owned IAI1124A Westwind overshoots runway at Manila Airport, Philippines

Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:25 pm

Urgh. Wonder if they were overloaded or had COG issues? Terrible tragedy to add to this awful situation in general.
 
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Re: Privately owned IAI1124A Westwind overshoots runway at Manila Airport, Philippines

Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:45 pm

So many people reporting it as a Lion Air flight and then giving the registration as the "flight number."

Thought it was another 737 down..

Horrible nonetheless. Long takeoff roll and fire with 8-pax and medical. Yea, I can see where this cause is going.
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Re: Privately owned IAI1124A Westwind overshoots runway at Manila Airport, Philippines

Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:23 pm

fswartz wrote:
It's also been reported in the NY Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/worl ... e=Homepage


A Canadian and an American were among the dead according to the article.
 
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Re: Privately owned IAI1124A Westwind overshoots runway at Manila Airport, Philippines

Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:07 pm

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/as ... r-12587828

Seems like the head of the Philippine Red Cross was on the plane
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Re: Privately owned IAI1124A Westwind overshoots runway at Manila Airport, Philippines

Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:43 pm

c933103 wrote:
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/plane-crash-philippines-manila-airport-naia-lionair-12587828

Seems like the head of the Philippine Red Cross was on the plane


The wreckage to me looks like it was survivable. To see the main exit door still closed just gives me chills. Perhaps they couldn't get the door open?
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Re: Privately owned IAI1124A Westwind overshoots runway at Manila Airport, Philippines

Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:12 pm

With 8 people aboard they couldn't have been carrying much in the way of medical supplies.
 
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Re: Privately owned IAI1124A Westwind overshoots runway at Manila Airport, Philippines

Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:36 pm

The pic in the NYT article looks telling. Wings intact, engines intact, front section intact. But totally burnt cabin. Appears that the fire broke out there. As its reported it was a COV patient transport with a companion, perhaps something related to oxygen?
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Re: Privately owned IAI1124A Westwind overshoots runway at Manila Airport, Philippines

Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:52 pm

That looks horrible. This is absolutely speculation, but if they were moving vented patients on supplemental oxygen, and something wasn't properly secured, there is a bad recipe for a disaster with sparks from broken electrical it friction, oxygen as an accelerant, and the potential for blocked egress routes. I pray that their passing was swift and that their suffering was minimal, though, I can't even fathom the terror of being trapped in a small space, that was engulfed in flames, like that plane looks to have been.
 
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Re: Privately owned IAI1124A Westwind overshoots runway at Manila Airport, Philippines

Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:32 am

c933103 wrote:
Seems like the head of the Philippine Red Cross was on the plane

Poorly phrased reporting. It was he who made the tweet.
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