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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:45 am

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Well the 747s have to eventually be positioned out of SYD, so I guess that gives them at least 5 more flights. The longer this goes on, the less likely the 747s return as passenger flights.

Many people would rather have been there and seen the flight arrive and it not be the last flight, then dismiss it as just a rumour and it end up having been the last flight. IF anything, it was the last international QF arrival into SYD before the grounding, so it was still a special occasion.

Agree, avgeeks clearly didn’t want to miss what was rumoured to be the last QF B747 flight.

It’s clear QF saw this as a positive PR therefore remained tight lipped until now. As per the article QF confirm the B747 will return to service pending how long the groundings last.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:48 am

WorkSafe NSW is investigating Qantas for alleged discriminatory conduct after it sacked a worker who was also an elected health and safety representative for raising concerns about cleaners being exposed to Coronavirus

https://www.smh.com.au/business/compani ... 54gc9.html
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:53 am

Government shouldn't rescue airlines or super funds from their own ineptitude

The Morrison government appears to be resisting the pleas for bailouts from Virgin Australia and industry super funds caught short of liquidity. It should continue to do so.


https://www.smh.com.au/business/compani ... 54gck.html
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:23 am

EK413 wrote:
JBusworth wrote:
Well the 747s have to eventually be positioned out of SYD, so I guess that gives them at least 5 more flights. The longer this goes on, the less likely the 747s return as passenger flights.

Many people would rather have been there and seen the flight arrive and it not be the last flight, then dismiss it as just a rumour and it end up having been the last flight. IF anything, it was the last international QF arrival into SYD before the grounding, so it was still a special occasion.

Agree, avgeeks clearly didn’t want to miss what was rumoured to be the last QF B747 flight.

It’s clear QF saw this as a positive PR therefore remained tight lipped until now. As per the article QF confirm the B747 will return to service pending how long the groundings last.


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While it seems there has been nothing from QF officially regarding retirement there are a lot of ‘sources’ most of which aren’t particularly known for their reliable reporting. They could titled it

‘Have Qantas operated their final 747 flight’?

I do think it is very unlikely they will return to service, the reality is that borders will need to remain closed for several months and things are going to take a long time to return to normal. More likely the 744s could be a good aircraft for repatriation flights.

Some of the A380s could remain on the ground for a while Adele with 787s and A330s doing the bulk of widebody flying initially.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:29 am

JBusworth wrote:
Well the 747s have to eventually be positioned out of SYD, so I guess that gives them at least 5 more flights. The longer this goes on, the less likely the 747s return as passenger flights.

Many people would rather have been there and seen the flight arrive and it not be the last flight, then dismiss it as just a rumour and it end up having been the last flight. IF anything, it was the last international QF arrival into SYD before the grounding, so it was still a special occasion.


On another forum I read that the flight crew requested the Harbour fly by exactly for that reason. Last international into Sydney for a while.

skennedy wrote:
Interesting Delta flight at the moment SLC to SYD DL8835. Never seen a direct flight from Salt Lake City before, then again I could be wrong.


Repatriation flight for Morman missionaries is what I’ve heard. Going back to SCL as well.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:35 am

AJ wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Qantas Fleet Status

A330-200

EBA - stored BNE
EBB - stored BNE
EBC - stored BNE
EBD - stored BNE
EBE - stored AVV
EBF - stored AVV
EBG - stored AVV
EBJ - stored AVV
EBK - in service
EBL - stored AVV
EBM - in service
EBN - in service
EBO - stored BNE
EBP - in service
EBQ - in service
EBR - stored AVV
EBS - in service
EBV - in service

Amazing list, thank you.
VH-EBM/N/Q and V are all at AVV.


Given the significant number of frames at AVV.....anyone have a recent snap (from the freeway....or a better vantage point).
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:56 am

ArtV wrote:
AJ wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Qantas Fleet Status

A330-200

EBA - stored BNE
EBB - stored BNE
EBC - stored BNE
EBD - stored BNE
EBE - stored AVV
EBF - stored AVV
EBG - stored AVV
EBJ - stored AVV
EBK - in service
EBL - stored AVV
EBM - in service
EBN - in service
EBO - stored BNE
EBP - in service
EBQ - in service
EBR - stored AVV
EBS - in service
EBV - in service

Amazing list, thank you.
VH-EBM/N/Q and V are all at AVV.


Given the significant number of frames at AVV.....anyone have a recent snap (from the freeway....or a better vantage point).

It’s not AVV but this is the lineup in SYD.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:11 am

CraigAnderson wrote:
Government shouldn't rescue airlines or super funds from their own ineptitude

The Morrison government appears to be resisting the pleas for bailouts from Virgin Australia and industry super funds caught short of liquidity. It should continue to do so.


https://www.smh.com.au/business/compani ... 54gck.html


Definitely going into NonAv territory, but I don't think it's fair to lump the airlines and super funds together.

It was the government that allowed people to access their super early, creating a potential 'run on the banks' scenario. In this circumstance I don't think a short-term liquidity guarantee is unreasonable. It's not really fair to call the super funds "inept" for not planning on lots of working age people drawing down their super.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:17 am

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Virgin could be allowed to crash for new airline
The federal government is likely to facilitate the entry of a new carrier into the domestic market, rather than bail out Virgin Australia, should the struggling airline not survive the coronavirus crisis.

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/vi ... 401-p54fv6


You feel for the employees. Regardless if they find new jobs, their pay will inevitably decrease.

For selfish reasons though, any thoughts on what happens to Velocity frequent flyer? Has this been sold off or is it part of the parent company still?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:31 am

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Whatsaptudo wrote:
Of course it's not the last flight, they have be flown to Mojave.


Touche :spin:

Hahaha. Points Flights to LAX & SFO en route to Mojave.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:03 am

Boof wrote:
skennedy wrote:
Interesting Delta flight at the moment SLC to SYD DL8835. Never seen a direct flight from Salt Lake City before, then again I could be wrong.

Repatriation flight for Morman missionaries is what I’ve heard. Going back to SCL as well.


At least they won't need to load any booze, that'll keep the take-off weight down!
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:07 am

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For selfish reasons though, any thoughts on what happens to Velocity frequent flyer? Has this been sold off or is it part of the parent company still?


It was 35% held by a private equity firm, and then VA bought that stake back last year. Not the smartest move Borghetti ever made, he sold that stake in 2014 for $336 million, and when Scurrah bought it back it cost them $700m, so Virgin lost $364m on the deal.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:04 am

The following graph below shows QF historical fleet of 747's, when the came in and when they were retired and how long they were in the fleet for

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https://twitter.com/Keg767/status/12454 ... 97344?s=20
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:26 am

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All the VA 737s appeared to be gone as of about 90 minutes ago.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:34 am

CraigAnderson wrote:
Boof wrote:
skennedy wrote:
Interesting Delta flight at the moment SLC to SYD DL8835. Never seen a direct flight from Salt Lake City before, then again I could be wrong.

Repatriation flight for Morman missionaries is what I’ve heard. Going back to SCL as well.


At least they won't need to load any booze, that'll keep the take-off weight down!


Don’t forget the cumulative weight of all the bibles.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:57 am

Chipmunk1973 wrote:
CraigAnderson wrote:
Boof wrote:

Repatriation flight for Morman missionaries is what I’ve heard. Going back to SCL as well.


At least they won't need to load any booze, that'll keep the take-off weight down!


Don’t forget the cumulative weight of all the bibles.


Would you classify 2nd wife as excess baggage? :)
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:05 am

Captdasbomb wrote:
Chipmunk1973 wrote:
CraigAnderson wrote:

At least they won't need to load any booze, that'll keep the take-off weight down!


Don’t forget the cumulative weight of all the bibles.


Would you classify 2nd wife as excess baggage? :)


:lol:

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:27 am

TN486T wrote:

So MEL gets its EL AL flight, just under different circumstances than originally intended.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:48 am

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Nepal Airlines repatriation flight is currently about 30 minutes out from BNE


Never thought I'd see a direct Aus-Nepal flight let alone a Nepal Airlines plane in Oz !!
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:07 am

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Don’t forget the cumulative weight of all the bibles.


Luckily, magic underwear weighs almost nothing.
 
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Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:39 am

SYDSpotter wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Nepal Airlines repatriation flight is currently about 30 minutes out from BNE


Never thought I'd see a direct Aus-Nepal flight let alone a Nepal Airlines plane in Oz !!


Technically it stopped in Kuala Lumpur on its way to BNE. The same for its return flight
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:41 am

jman wrote:
SYDSpotter wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Nepal Airlines repatriation flight is currently about 30 minutes out from BNE


Never thought I'd see a direct Aus-Nepal flight let alone a Nepal Airlines plane in Oz !!


Technically it stopped in Kuala Lumpur on its way to BNE. The same for its return flight

It's still direct, just not non-stop.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:16 am

With regards to the perilous state that VA are currently in, could they use aircraft that are more focussed on freight at this point in time?

I realise that complex freight agreements cannot be drawn on a whim, but after having read today that Aussie seafood merchants were hoping to get their exports to Asian cities in a timely manner, then surely this is something they could possibly pursue? If their A330 fleet is leased then surely putting them on a freight flight would assist in minimising their cost.

Also, whilst it’s not a strong sellers market, wouldn’t it be a benefit to VA to sell some aircraft to gain some working capital?
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:19 am

QF129 heading off to PVG at the moment too...
 
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Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:39 am

skennedy wrote:
Interesting Delta flight at the moment SLC to SYD DL8835. Never seen a direct flight from Salt Lake City before, then again I could be wrong.


DL flew 2 777 LAX-SYD charters last weeks as well.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:43 am

Condor 767 inbound to SYD, about an hour out.

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QF129 heading off to PVG at the moment too...


Pretty certain it's freight only, no passengers.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:43 am

Condor's second visit to Australia: DE8998 is currently in the skies due to touch down in Sydney tonight
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/d-abub

Also a Singapore Airlines Cargo plane is bound to touch down in MEL overnight tomorrow morning. Flight SQ7276. Normally a SIN-MEL non-stop Cargo flight only runs on Saturdays so an interesting one to find.

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Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:46 am

Yes I have seen the news, the Government has refused to inject money into VA, lots and lots of talk about VA gong under, but do you think they rely will go bust and never fly again? Do you rely think that the Government would QF be the only airline where you can bet QF will charge like a wounded bull or Australia go back to the 2 airline policy pricing? I think Virgin Australia will survive all be it much smaller, and what will happen to Tiger Air? To me Jetstar is apart of Qantas so will be no cheap flying there, I recon Virgin will survive.
 
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Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:50 am

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QF129 heading off to PVG at the moment too...


Pretty certain it's freight only, no passengers.


Wouldve thought it would be a freight only service or a special repatriation flight to bring back stranded citizens.

Qantas last operated QF129 on the 8th February! :shock:

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Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:04 am

JRPLANES wrote:
777LRF wrote:
QF129 heading off to PVG at the moment too...


Pretty certain it's freight only, no passengers.


Wouldve thought it would be a freight only service or a special repatriation flight to bring back stranded citizens.

Qantas last operated QF129 on the 8th February! :shock:

JRPLANES


I would think this and the still ongoing EK406/407 (I can also see an EY460) on its way to MEL too atm. Are all freight or repatriation flights of some description or even a hybrid of the two perhaps in some cases.

Look on flightradar these days its amazing how QR really looks like the infallible superhuman of the skies at the moment.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:57 am

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Yes I have seen the news, the Government has refused to inject money into VA, lots and lots of talk about VA gong under, but do you think they rely will go bust and never fly again? Do you rely think that the Government would QF be the only airline where you can bet QF will charge like a wounded bull or Australia go back to the 2 airline policy pricing? I think Virgin Australia will survive all be it much smaller, and what will happen to Tiger Air? To me Jetstar is apart of Qantas so will be no cheap flying there, I recon Virgin will survive.


As an Australian taxpayer, I don’t want my government bailing out a company that will have to bare years of stagnant and subdued growth in the coming years, then consequently have to bear the cost. VA is owned by 3 governments and a billionaire. Let them fix VA’s problems.

You can still achieve a two airline policy by letting VA die.
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Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:08 am

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Yes I have seen the news, the Government has refused to inject money into VA, lots and lots of talk about VA gong under, but do you think they rely will go bust and never fly again? Do you rely think that the Government would QF be the only airline where you can bet QF will charge like a wounded bull or Australia go back to the 2 airline policy pricing? I think Virgin Australia will survive all be it much smaller, and what will happen to Tiger Air? To me Jetstar is apart of Qantas so will be no cheap flying there, I recon Virgin will survive.


Might be best for Virgin Australia to file voluntary administration, to allow them to get rid of the dead wood (namely most of the current shareholders), this will enable the administrators to research whether if its feasible to operate a 'mk 2' operation (perhaps without the Virgin name) to enable the new 'slimmed down' domestic 'VA replacement' to attract a buyer.
While also at the same time sorting out VA's financials.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:06 pm

777LRF wrote:
JRPLANES wrote:


Pretty certain it's freight only, no passengers.


Wouldve thought it would be a freight only service or a special repatriation flight to bring back stranded citizens.

Qantas last operated QF129 on the 8th February! :shock:

JRPLANES


I would think this and the still ongoing EK406/407 (I can also see an EY460) on its way to MEL too atm. Are all freight or repatriation flights of some description or even a hybrid of the two perhaps in some cases.

Look on flightradar these days its amazing how QR really looks like the infallible superhuman of the skies at the moment.


Emirates and Etihad are pure freight, no passengers, notwithstanding the flight numbers.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:20 pm

With WA restricting interstate borders even further on Sunday... could we see QF/VA pull out of transcon services?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:41 pm

Never going to happen.If QF and VA refused trans con watch ANZ 321 and 789 volunteer to do that....,
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:47 pm

RyanairGuru wrote:
777LRF wrote:
JRPLANES wrote:

Wouldve thought it would be a freight only service or a special repatriation flight to bring back stranded citizens.

Qantas last operated QF129 on the 8th February! :shock:

JRPLANES


I would think this and the still ongoing EK406/407 (I can also see an EY460) on its way to MEL too atm. Are all freight or repatriation flights of some description or even a hybrid of the two perhaps in some cases.

Look on flightradar these days its amazing how QR really looks like the infallible superhuman of the skies at the moment.


Emirates and Etihad are pure freight, no passengers, notwithstanding the flight numbers.

EY460 is carrying passengers plus freight.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:09 pm

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With regards to the perilous state that VA are currently in, could they use aircraft that are more focussed on freight at this point in time?

I realise that complex freight agreements cannot be drawn on a whim, but after having read today that Aussie seafood merchants were hoping to get their exports to Asian cities in a timely manner, then surely this is something they could possibly pursue? If their A330 fleet is leased then surely putting them on a freight flight would assist in minimising their cost.

Also, whilst it’s not a strong sellers market, wouldn’t it be a benefit to VA to sell some aircraft to gain some working capital?


'Not a strong sellers market' is quite an understatement. No one is buying any commercial aircraft at the moment at all, there is no capital & no market for them, even at a bargain.
The market knows there will be an abundance of cheap 2nd hand aircraft looking for a home in the coming years. Selling aircraft right now is not a viable option for VA.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:29 pm

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Yes I have seen the news, the Government has refused to inject money into VA, lots and lots of talk about VA gong under, but do you think they rely will go bust and never fly again? Do you rely think that the Government would QF be the only airline where you can bet QF will charge like a wounded bull or Australia go back to the 2 airline policy pricing? I think Virgin Australia will survive all be it much smaller, and what will happen to Tiger Air? To me Jetstar is apart of Qantas so will be no cheap flying there, I recon Virgin will survive.


The Govt has said publicly they are not inclined to help VA, however it is still very much an active discussion at cabinet level. The feds are in a tricky situation here, and whatever they decide will have massive implications either way - they're damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Personally I'm highly conflicted over this. I'm a really big fan of VA, and what they have become over the past 10 years, their staff are magnificent - and think it will be devastating for the business travel market in Australia if they fold. However I'm also a free market guy, and don't believe in Governments picking winners and propping up individual companies. I've been a big critic of Italy constantly propping up the pathetic excuse of an airline that Alitalia has become, so I need to be consistent with my thoughts on the VA predicament.

Lets hope this craziness is over quickly and they can get through it, although I have a terrible suspicion they won't.
 
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Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:56 pm

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Rumor of a possible KLM flight to SYD, first visit to AUS for over 12 years ?

- April 2, 2020: KL827 AMS-KUL-SYD B772 PH-BQK

- dep. AMS 20.50 - 14.50 KUL ??? - ??? SYD


Well it may be happening .......KL827 AMS-KUL B772 PH-BQK has departed AMS for KUL.

The regular AMS-KUL flight no. is KL809, as indicated on FR24, so this is an irregular flight for KLM and the final destination is not yet indicated.
Could it be headed to SYD?

- https://www.flightradar24.com/KLM827/244fbb5a
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:09 pm

After being given the approval from the GCAA, starting Monday 06/4, Etihad will be operating flights to MEL in Australia along with Seoul, Singapore, MNL, BKK, Jakarta and AMS
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:28 pm

KLM Royal Dutch Airlines will start repatriation flights from Schiphol to Sydney, Australia, which will bring home almost 2000 Dutch travelers in the coming days.

The Boeing 777-200ER, flight KLM827 that departed Schiphol at 20:50 (2nd April) is the first in a series of 6 repatriation flights between Amsterdam Schiphol and Australia. It will be the first time in 20 years that a KLM aircraft lands at Sydney Airport.

Details: https://lnkd.in/d89W8Mx

Emirates has received UAE government approvals to operate passenger flights to certain cities. Flights to London Heathrow, Frankfurt, Paris, Zurich and Brussels, starting 6th of April, will only carry passengers outbound from Dubai. The safety and well-being of our customers and crew remain our top priority. https://bit.ly/2ytizYo

Etihad Airways will operate a regular service from Abu Dhabi to a number of destinations commencing 5th of April, starting with Seoul Incheon, following with Melbourne, Singapore, Manila, Bangkok, Jakarta and Amsterdam.

Details: https://lnkd.in/dm8Y7X9

Qatar is introducing twice-weekly Boeing 777 freighters to Melbourne and Perth in Australia from 2nd of April.

Australia flights – read more: https://bit.ly/2X1DWu3


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:35 pm

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With WA restricting interstate borders even further on Sunday... could we see QF/VA pull out of transcon services?


They won't pull out of transcon but they would certainly reduce it to the bare minimum or 1-2 flights per day.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:17 pm

Virgin have stopped inflight catering and appear to be buy on board again. Qantas have stopped meals and will just do water and a snack. Jetstar have stopped buy on board and all. passengers will get a free bottle of water and snack the same Qantas.
 
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Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:51 pm

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Virgin have stopped inflight catering and appear to be buy on board again. Qantas have stopped meals and will just do water and a snack. Jetstar have stopped buy on board and all. passengers will get a free bottle of water and snack the same Qantas.

More than likely the future of air travel.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:59 pm

EK413 wrote:
anstar wrote:
Virgin have stopped inflight catering and appear to be buy on board again. Qantas have stopped meals and will just do water and a snack. Jetstar have stopped buy on board and all. passengers will get a free bottle of water and snack the same Qantas.

More than likely the future of air travel.


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More than likely temporary measures to reduce flight crew's exposures from any contact with passengers for QF/JQ especially if they were placed on pax's seat before departure like alot of Asian carriers are now doing.

I'm not saying the same thiing for VA though.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:14 pm

QF ends fflyer partnership with Air North

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... h-airnorth
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:22 pm

CraigAnderson wrote:
ben175 wrote:
With WA restricting interstate borders even further on Sunday... could we see QF/VA pull out of transcon services?


They won't pull out of transcon but they would certainly reduce it to the bare minimum or 1-2 flights per day.


VA Have pulled out of PER-SYD while they will operate PER-MEL/BNE 1 daily. QF on the other hand will operate 11 weekly PER-SYD, 1 daily PER-MEL and 5 weekly PER-BNE


“Due to the announcement earlier today by the Premier in regards to the increased restrictions between WA and the Eastern States, Qantas have reduced their flights to a bare minimum (provisional for period 10APR to 31MAY) - something not seen since some 30 years ago during the infamous Pilots' dispute:

SYD-PER-SYD

Daily QF581 ETA 1330 73H/330 mix

Daily QF582 ETD 1430 73H/330 mix

Mon-Thu QF583 ETA 2255 73H

Mon-Thu QF568 ETD 2355 73H



MEL-PER-MEL

Daily QF783 ETA 2245 73H

Daily QF784 ETD 2350 73H



BNE-PER-BNE

Mon-Fri QF935 ETA 1205 73H

Mon-Fri QF936 ETD 1130 73H



VA not much better (commences this weekend):



MEL-PER-MEL

Daily VA685 ETA 1510 73H

Daily VA684 ETD 1000 73H



BNE-PER-BNE

Daily VA470 ETA 2115 73H

Daily VA467 ETD 0920 73H



No PER-SYD direct flights until mid June”
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:27 pm

eamondzhang wrote:
EK413 wrote:
anstar wrote:
Virgin have stopped inflight catering and appear to be buy on board again. Qantas have stopped meals and will just do water and a snack. Jetstar have stopped buy on board and all. passengers will get a free bottle of water and snack the same Qantas.

More than likely the future of air travel.


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More than likely temporary measures to reduce flight crew's exposures from any contact with passengers for QF/JQ especially if they were placed on pax's seat before departure like alot of Asian carriers are now doing.

I'm not saying the same thiing for VA though.

Michael

I understand this is a temporary measure, however I’m certain airlines will use this as an opportunity to review their inflight catering offerings & where possible cut back. Receiving a bottle of water and snack on a SYD/MEL/BNE service and more substantial serving on the East West services.


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