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B757rocket
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:57 pm

Hope all are safe and keeping the distance.

Out of curiosity, what is JetBlue’s plan? They cancelled cancelled 16% of their operation today and only a few flights out of Boston. Judging by their seat maps ( not accurate) their planes are just as empty as the other carriers canceling a lot more. Will this lead them down into worse financial trouble?

https://flightaware.com/live/cancelled/today
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:07 pm

B757rocket wrote:
Hope all are safe and keeping the distance.

Out of curiosity, what is JetBlue’s plan? They cancelled cancelled 16% of their operation today and only a few flights out of Boston. Judging by their seat maps ( not accurate) their planes are just as empty as the other carriers canceling a lot more. Will this lead them down into worse financial trouble?

https://flightaware.com/live/cancelled/today

They have announced flying out of JFK for May will be around 40 flights per day. Not sure how much flying there will be for BOS.


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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:33 pm

B757rocket wrote:
Hope all are safe and keeping the distance.

Out of curiosity, what is JetBlue’s plan? They cancelled cancelled 16% of their operation today and only a few flights out of Boston. Judging by their seat maps ( not accurate) their planes are just as empty as the other carriers canceling a lot more. Will this lead them down into worse financial trouble?

https://flightaware.com/live/cancelled/today


they are canceling 80% of flights out of NYC area and at least 70% of their flights system wide. And I'm sure these rolling cancels will continue. I don't know how much more they can cancel than that and still get bailout money.

I'm sure if they are allowed to just cancel 75% of their flights out of BOS and 90% of other flights and 1/3 of their destinations (like what NK/F9 is doing), they would do that. But the bailout conditions don't really allow for that.

kind of makes me wonder how NK/F9 are going to get through this if they aren't eligible for the bailout grants. Seems crazy even if they are doing massive furloughs.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:17 pm

SheikhDjibouti wrote:
Newark727 wrote:
TGV wrote:
You are right. The largest airplane used is a military French Air Force A330 specialised in Medevac which can transport up to 6 people at the same time.

How is the A330 laid out? This doesn't seem like that many, but I have no idea how much space it takes to treat a Covid-19 patient.

FWIW - Configuration CM30; 20 stations for up to 40 lightly wounded

But the more likely set-up is the middle one
Configuration Morphée; 10 modules for "up to a dozen" (personally I'm seeing 10-for-10) heavy wounded

I confess I cannot see any reason to further reduce capacity to just six, but then I'm not a medic.
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I'm guessing they don't want to put two people side by side in the back two units out of the three. One on each side, so X0X0X per side if you will, leaving 4 out of the 10 empty.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:45 pm

tphuang wrote:
B757rocket wrote:
Hope all are safe and keeping the distance.

Out of curiosity, what is JetBlue’s plan? They cancelled cancelled 16% of their operation today and only a few flights out of Boston. Judging by their seat maps ( not accurate) their planes are just as empty as the other carriers canceling a lot more. Will this lead them down into worse financial trouble?

https://flightaware.com/live/cancelled/today


they are canceling 80% of flights out of NYC area and at least 70% of their flights system wide. And I'm sure these rolling cancels will continue. I don't know how much more they can cancel than that and still get bailout money.

I'm sure if they are allowed to just cancel 75% of their flights out of BOS and 90% of other flights and 1/3 of their destinations (like what NK/F9 is doing), they would do that. But the bailout conditions don't really allow for that.

kind of makes me wonder how NK/F9 are going to get through this if they aren't eligible for the bailout grants. Seems crazy even if they are doing massive furloughs.



I've been periodically checking storage airports (ROW - Roswell, VCV Victorville and AVW Marana in Tuscon). F9 has 5 scheduled flights to ROW today - mostly A321's. So they are in the boat with other airlines. Anyone know where Spirit is parking planes?
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:52 pm

Anyone know Singapore changi is doing in these times? any parked planes?
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:22 pm

TK suspended their remaining 14 Domestic flights also, till April20th. So, as of now TK is only flying Cargo flights.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:42 pm

A senior KQ 787 captain has passed away after operating the last JFK-NBO flight on March 25th.

https://bit.ly/2JF8KIY
 
argentinevol98
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:07 am

SheikhDjibouti wrote:
But the more likely set-up is the middle one
Configuration Morphée; 10 modules for "up to a dozen" (personally I'm seeing 10-for-10) heavy wounded

I confess I cannot see any reason to further reduce capacity to just six, but then I'm not a medic.
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https://www.defense.gouv.fr/var/dicod/s ... phenix.jpg


I know this is somewhat off-topic, but I see that the French MRTT config is shown as 8 abreast Y seats in the passenger area. Why not 9 abreast? Maximize floor space and capacity better. It's not like the plane is full of paying pax who will be upset about the tight seat width. Is it a weight thing?
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:37 am

argentinevol98 wrote:
SheikhDjibouti wrote:
But the more likely set-up is the middle one
Configuration Morphée; 10 modules for "up to a dozen" (personally I'm seeing 10-for-10) heavy wounded

I confess I cannot see any reason to further reduce capacity to just six, but then I'm not a medic.
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https://www.defense.gouv.fr/var/dicod/s ... phenix.jpg


I know this is somewhat off-topic, but I see that the French MRTT config is shown as 8 abreast Y seats in the passenger area. Why not 9 abreast? Maximize floor space and capacity better. It's not like the plane is full of paying pax who will be upset about the tight seat width. Is it a weight thing?



Just imagine all those seats filled with French soldiers or Marines, each with their Kevlar plate carriers and gear vests and weapons, better to have all the extra space they can. Imagine trying to get down the tighter aisles too. In this case they would prefer the standard 8 across configuration I think.
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:03 am

So far EAS markets in the US have still been operating as contracted, so while (for example Delta cut hundreds of weekday flights and a few dozen nonstop destinations at their Minneapolis hub you'll still find the same twice-daily RJ flights to Bemidji and Aberdeen as always. Now Skywest is lobbying its EAS market to petition the DoT to allow service to be reduced to 1x/day but asking for subsidy to not be reduced. I would guess it's not just Skywest looking for something like this. It's kind of ironic that the EAS airline best able to weather this storm...was Great Lakes. They carried notoriously low loads in later EAS years by virtue of their low reliability, unattractive aircraft, very limited codeshareing/interlining, and (often) moderately high fares. And the subsidy calculations in their bids were based on pretty crappy traffic projections. Most of the current EAS carriers carry far better loads, often due to rather low fares or branded RJ service. And their subsidy calculations rely on solid passenger loads bringing in a sizable chunk of revenue, relying on it in a way Great Lakes often did not.

On a separate note I did a whole bunch of work with the Southwest reduced schedule in early May and posted stats over in the Southwest thread. They are reducing departures roughly by half and dropping about 1/3 of their nonstop city pairs. Kid of remarkable to think that is a comparably small reduction. I wonder if they are experiencing a somewhat less severe traffic freefall, or if they are just viewing things differently than their network peers.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:40 am

SwissCanuck wrote:
SheikhDjibouti wrote:
Newark727 wrote:
How is the A330 laid out? This doesn't seem like that many, but I have no idea how much space it takes to treat a Covid-19 patient.

FWIW - Configuration CM30; 20 stations for up to 40 lightly wounded

But the more likely set-up is the middle one
Configuration Morphée; 10 modules for "up to a dozen" (personally I'm seeing 10-for-10) heavy wounded

I confess I cannot see any reason to further reduce capacity to just six, but then I'm not a medic.
Image
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https://www.defense.gouv.fr/var/dicod/s ... phenix.jpg


I'm guessing they don't want to put two people side by side in the back two units out of the three. One on each side, so X0X0X per side if you will, leaving 4 out of the 10 empty.


Why guess when you can know.
Below cabin footage of an actual Covid-19 medical flight in Morphee configuration, and the pre-flight deployment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEhvb_DlneM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsZEJQzHatU
 
FlyingElvii
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:42 am

Covid-19 Claims KQ Pilot
https://www.kenyanews.go.ke/kitui-count ... 19-victim/

Senior Kenya Airways pilot that Operated the last KQ 787 from New York on March 24. Initially tested negative for coronavirus, but he developed a fever and a sore throat a few days later and returned to the hospital on March 29.
Died April 1st.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:17 am

FlyingElvii wrote:
Covid-19 Claims KQ Pilot
https://www.kenyanews.go.ke/kitui-count ... 19-victim/

Senior Kenya Airways pilot that Operated the last KQ 787 from New York on March 24. Initially tested negative for coronavirus, but he developed a fever and a sore throat a few days later and returned to the hospital on March 29.
Died April 1st.


RIP to the pilot.

Unfortunately, unless flights are grounded, we'll soon hear reports of pilots and cabin crew dropping dead one after the other.
This will especially be the case in countries where airlines stubbornly keep operating almost-empty flights.

Pres. Trump is considering grounding some flights, but it is taking waaaay too long.
Governments are too passive.

Aren't civil aviation authorities supposed to step in?
If due to changing conditions, the long-term safety of crews can not be guaranteed, executing flights without the proper protection equipment should not be allowed.
Same for passengers.

Did you guys hear about the Costa Luminosa cruise passengers who got off in Marseille and were set free at ATL without any kind of isolation?
I thought I was hallucinating when I read this.
This is in CDC's home city by the way, how can this happen?



Three people on the flight tested positive for the coronavirus before landing but had no symptoms, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said. Thirteen others were sick but hadn’t been tested, and one passenger was sent to a local hospital.

Harrell, 51, said she isolated two other passengers who were having breathing problems. One had a chronic lung disease and needed to be hooked to a ventilator, she said. Another passenger had an asthma attack and several others fainted, apparently from low blood sugar levels. Harrell said many travelers were coughing and she helped treat people who had a fever.

“There should have been medical personnel on that flight,” Harrell said.


https://time.com/5807672/cruise-ship-pa ... ronavirus/



A Florida man dies days after hundreds of people exposed to coronavirus walked around the world's busiest airport

A lack of protocol leaves passengers confused

At the cargo area where the plane landed, passengers were met by health officials in hazmat suits, Bradbury said. They got a temperature check and a visual assessment, along with paperwork asking whether someone had a cough, a sore throat or other ailments associated with coronavirus, she said.
Those with signs of possible illness were taken into a separate room while those with no symptoms headed to customs, and were later put in buses that dropped them off near a terminal, Bradbury said. From there, they were all told to go in and get their bags.
"We're thinking someone is going to be meeting us ... nope. You just walk in and you're in the terminal with everybody else. We were shocked," Bradbury said.
Several passengers told CNN they were allowed to wander around inside the airport, including at least one person who was symptomatic.
"We were covered with virus from head to toe. We should not have been in the airport," said Harrell Catron.
Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport referred CNN to the CDC.
With no plan for quarantines after arrival and no other options, Bradbury said, they joined other travelers. They considered themselves potential coronavirus patients and moved away if anyone got too close. Some went to their respective gates for their commercial flights home, others headed to restaurants to eat and others went to restrooms. Others even took rideshares to other parts of Atlanta.

"It was great that they got us there. But to not have any plan or protocol in place is crazy," Bradbury said.
From Atlanta, Bradbury hopped on a flight to Minneapolis, then another one to Winnipeg, Canada, where she's in self-isolation as she awaits test results.
Harrell Catron instead chose to self-quarantine at her own expense at an Atlanta hotel for 14 days before leaving for her home in Fredericksburg, Virginia.
Phoenix-area residents Kelea Nevis and her husband, Jim Nevis, were briefly held after his fever registered over 100 degrees, she said. Officials gave her husband a Chick-fil-A sandwich, and retook his temperature after a wait, she told CNN. It had dropped to around 99 degrees, so they were cleared to take a commercial flight home. "His temperature was 102.5 when we landed," Kelea Nevis said.
Five days after they got home, he was rushed to the hospital by ambulance. He tested positive for coronavirus, and was hospitalized. He was released this week.


https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/03/us/c ... index.html


At this pace, it's not going to be 100.000-240.000 deaths total, but per week and no later than 4 weeks from now.
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CRJ5000
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:52 am

Warren Buffett unloading millions of shares of DL/WN...

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/03/warren- ... takes.html
 
FCAFLYBOY
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:14 am

BBC article states “a number” of BA Cabin Crew have contracted Coronavirus after long haul flights. Hardly surprising, and not good news.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... s-52126661
 
tcas69
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:19 am

@cancellation of flights Europe versus US:
maybe somebody can enlighten me why there is still so much traffic in the US while many European airlines stop flying or offer only rudimentary networks.
Is it because „use it or loose it „ slot rules where lifted only in Europe ( until winterschedule)?
or because it is cheaper to fly nearly empty flights than refund tickets?
or because travel restriction between states are much more stringent in Europe?
or all of the above. ;-)
 
CRJ5000
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:25 am

tcas69 wrote:
@cancellation of flights Europe versus US:
maybe somebody can enlighten me why there is still so much traffic in the US while many European airlines stop flying or offer only rudimentary networks.
Is it because „use it or loose it „ slot rules where lifted only in Europe ( until winterschedule)?
or because it is cheaper to fly nearly empty flights than refund tickets?
or because travel restriction between states are much more stringent in Europe?
or all of the above. ;-)


Its a number of things, but it doesn't help that the government is forcing airlines to continue flying at least some of their schedule if they want to receive government assistance/grant money...

https://www.flightglobal.com/networks/m ... 59.article
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:13 pm

tcas69 wrote:
@cancellation of flights Europe versus US:
maybe somebody can enlighten me why there is still so much traffic in the US while many European airlines stop flying or offer only rudimentary networks.
Is it because „use it or loose it „ slot rules where lifted only in Europe ( until winterschedule)?
or because it is cheaper to fly nearly empty flights than refund tickets?
or because travel restriction between states are much more stringent in Europe?
or all of the above. ;-)

United States postal service. Also there’s a lot of planned cuts that aren’t in yet. Like Alaska airlines 90% cut. We don’t really have slots in the us except for a couple (less than 5) airports.
 
KirkSeattle
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:08 pm

Where is she going? Missionaries going home? Fiji Airways NAN-SLC

https://www.flightradar24.com/FJI1830/2451830a
 
ATCtower
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:23 pm

Didn’t see it discussed here yet but it appears DOT is now ordering airlines to give refunds instead of vouchers. This is great news for the consumer, not so much for the airlines. I digress, if they’re getting bailed out, they should be giving refunds...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatod ... 2941262001
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argentinevol98
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:50 pm

atcdan wrote:
Just imagine all those seats filled with French soldiers or Marines, each with their Kevlar plate carriers and gear vests and weapons, better to have all the extra space they can. Imagine trying to get down the tighter aisles too. In this case they would prefer the standard 8 across configuration I think.


Good thought!
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:03 pm

Waterbomber2 wrote:
MKIAZ wrote:
joeblow10 wrote:
Seriously - why are US carriers still even flying around as much capacity as they are? States like TX and NM are now requiring arriving pax to quarantine for 14 days - and not just those from NY/NJ. It’s only a matter of time before every state is doing this, and the few folks traveling will dwindle even further. Not saying 100% of flying needs to be grounded - but why they even bother flying anything more than 5-10% or capacity is beyond me


I've speculated for awhile that the airlines are keeping flights to avoid refunding cash to people who already booked flights. With oil so low and pilots still getting paid regardless, if they cancel the flight they have to refund everyone who was booked on it in cash. If they operate it and everyone voluntarily decides to cancel they all get credit.


I think that you are correct.
They are flying to preserve cash, and avoid refunds, plus they are operating at the expense of their suppliers by increasing accounts payable, which is equivalent to a short-term loan.
Malicious, environmentally irresponsible, but effective in the short-term.
However, I don't see this lasting past April 15th, as for every passing day, there are less and less non-refundable advance bookings. They are trying to carry this forward by suggesting expanded use of interlining and using smaller aircraft but eventually it will stop making sense and become cheaper to refund than keep operating.
Also, at some point their suppliers and contractors are going to ask to pay their bills at the risk of suspension of service.


Agree with all of this. The situation is so unprecedented, where airlines are going weeks with zero revenue. Clearly, in many different contexts, they reached the same conclusion that cash conservation was the number one goal for staying solvent. If they would have just slashed the schedule in mid-March, big airlines would have owed hundreds of millions in refunds, which is especially true because in many national contexts, advanced bookings were very strong prior to COVID. With zero revenue coming in, they just couldn't afford to refund that much cash. As a poster noted above, the government is cracking down in the U.S. and demanding refunds now. But as you say, this is going to be less of an issue with each day because bookings are going to drop way off. Because of this, at least in the US I think we might see almost zero flying in the second half of April - and you are already seeing the mass dropoff in Europe.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:07 pm

KirkSeattle wrote:
Where is she going? Missionaries going home? Fiji Airways NAN-SLC

https://www.flightradar24.com/FJI1830/2451830a


My company handle all FJ flight to LAX. FJ1830 is a charter flight, NAN>SLC>LAX>NAN. They've requested a full cabin desanitizing service once they arrived at LAX.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:27 pm

The Dreamlifter is in the air heading CHS:

5Y4231 from Taranto to Charleston https://fr24.com/GTI4231/2451a192

Also an unusual AC 77W service to EZE:

AC7052 from Toronto to Buenos Aires https://fr24.com/ACA7052/24518925
 
KirkSeattle
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:27 pm

Tankdiver wrote:
KirkSeattle wrote:
Where is she going? Missionaries going home? Fiji Airways NAN-SLC

https://www.flightradar24.com/FJI1830/2451830a


My company handle all FJ flight to LAX. FJ1830 is a charter flight, NAN>SLC>LAX>NAN. They've requested a full cabin desanitizing service once they arrived at LAX.


Thanks!
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:25 pm

ATCtower wrote:
Didn’t see it discussed here yet but it appears DOT is now ordering airlines to give refunds instead of vouchers. This is great news for the consumer, not so much for the airlines. I digress, if they’re getting bailed out, they should be giving refunds...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatod ... 2941262001


Actually this is a reminder to airlines of what the rules have always been, as some airlines have been bending the rules.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:42 pm

Just announced at the daily US CV briefing, the US has repatriated 40k American citizens via 400 flights from 75 countries.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:04 pm

Two cruise ships are docking in Miami, a final stop after over a week of horror and denial of docking by several ports, with at least 2 dead and a number of Covid-19 ill passengers. Over the next several days, the passengers will be disembarking to only then face a new problem. Those from outside Florida who are being brought after medical checks to MIA where there is the lack of flights due to the current shutdown. https://news.yahoo.com/cruise-ship-two- ... 28554.html
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:06 pm

ojjunior wrote:

Also an unusual AC 77W service to EZE:

AC7052 from Toronto to Buenos Aires https://fr24.com/ACA7052/24518925


Repatriation flight for Canadians in Argentina. Over the past few days AC has operated similar flights to BOG & LIM

Aerolineas Argentinas will again operate (*) similar flights this next week to bring back home Argentinians still stranded overseas. 17 flights in total to Miami, Madrid, Cancún, Punta Cana, Bogotá, Florianópolis, San Pablo and Río de Janeiro: 10 operated with A330, 6 with 737-800 and 1 with 737-700 (Bogota, as the 800 is penalized out of BOG). Fligths will be operated by all-volunteer crews.

(*) Another 44 repatriation flights were operated by AR between 18-27 March.

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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:34 pm

In the Covid-19 Reference thread, it was posted that Thailand is no longer allowing inbound passenger flights and only cargo flights now allowed, but the article stated that the ban began on Saturday Morning and was lasting until Monday Night? so only 3 days? that seems odd, I'm guessing there will be a likely extension to that or the news article miss understood the ban time frame.

Also not sure if its the airport or just United Airlines, but just announced that EWR will be reduced to 15 daily flights and LGA down to 2 daily flights for 3 weeks starting tomorrow April 5th
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:30 pm

ojjunior wrote:
The Dreamlifter is in the air heading CHS:

5Y4231 from Taranto to Charleston https://fr24.com/GTI4231/2451a192

Also an unusual AC 77W service to EZE:

AC7052 from Toronto to Buenos Aires https://fr24.com/ACA7052/24518925

To Charleston sound like a Navy/Marine evac flight? Dependents?
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:33 pm

smokeybandit wrote:
Just announced at the daily US CV briefing, the US has repatriated 40k American citizens via 400 flights from 75 countries.


Are all repatriated US citizens required to do a mandatory isolated 14 day quarantine upon arrival to the states?
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:52 pm

N626AA wrote:
smokeybandit wrote:
Just announced at the daily US CV briefing, the US has repatriated 40k American citizens via 400 flights from 75 countries.


Are all repatriated US citizens required to do a mandatory isolated 14 day quarantine upon arrival to the states?

Does it matter at this point since the entire country is quarantined? Lol
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:05 am

ltbewr wrote:
Two cruise ships are docking in Miami, a final stop after over a week of horror and denial of docking by several ports, with at least 2 dead and a number of Covid-19 ill passengers. Over the next several days, the passengers will be disembarking to only then face a new problem. Those from outside Florida who are being brought after medical checks to MIA where there is the lack of flights due to the current shutdown. https://news.yahoo.com/cruise-ship-two- ... 28554.html
Only one ship. the Coral Princess docked at Miami. Two Holland America ships docked in Port Everglades yesterday. As a condition of being permitted to dock, the cruise company has to arrange transport of all no Florida residents on the ship to wherever they came from. For the Holland America ships apparently even some chartered flights were arranged out of Fort Lauderdale.
 
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AA Has More Departures Out Of EWR Than United Tomorrow

Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:05 am

Actually crazy... https://twitter.com/RossFeinstein/statu ... 3523845123

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With United reducing its schedule to 15 daily flights out of EWR, AA will have more scheduled flights than UA.

AA originally had 22 scheduled flights but 5 have been cancelled, leaving the AA with 5x CLT, 3x DFW, 3x ORD, 3x PHX, 3x MIA.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:22 am

Looks like DL suspended LGA-ORD entirely.
 
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Re: AA Has More Departures Out Of EWR Than United Tomorrow

Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:23 am

Ishrion wrote:
Actually crazy... https://twitter.com/RossFeinstein/statu ... 3523845123

Image

With United reducing its schedule to 15 daily flights out of EWR, AA will have more scheduled flights than UA.

AA originally had 22 scheduled flights but 5 have been cancelled, leaving the AA with 5x CLT, 3x DFW, 3x ORD, 3x PHX, 3x MIA.


That is a giant cut; but looking forward starting Tuesday AA only has 15-17 scheduled each day before any additional cancellations for April.

I'm assuming the remaining UA flights will all be hub to hub?
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:33 am

ANA is delaying delivery of final A388 by 6 months

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Transp ... r-6-months
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:51 am

Ethiopian B77L on the way from LFW to MSY

https://www.flightradar24.com/ETH8599/2451bb1c
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sun Apr 05, 2020 3:48 am

alasizon wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Actually crazy... https://twitter.com/RossFeinstein/statu ... 3523845123

Image

With United reducing its schedule to 15 daily flights out of EWR, AA will have more scheduled flights than UA.

AA originally had 22 scheduled flights but 5 have been cancelled, leaving the AA with 5x CLT, 3x DFW, 3x ORD, 3x PHX, 3x MIA.


That is a giant cut; but looking forward starting Tuesday AA only has 15-17 scheduled each day before any additional cancellations for April.

I'm assuming the remaining UA flights will all be hub to hub?

I believe they will also maintain service to LHR/TLV/FRA (1 flight each) unless that has since changed.


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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:08 am

chepos wrote:
alasizon wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Actually crazy... https://twitter.com/RossFeinstein/statu ... 3523845123

Image

With United reducing its schedule to 15 daily flights out of EWR, AA will have more scheduled flights than UA.

AA originally had 22 scheduled flights but 5 have been cancelled, leaving the AA with 5x CLT, 3x DFW, 3x ORD, 3x PHX, 3x MIA.


That is a giant cut; but looking forward starting Tuesday AA only has 15-17 scheduled each day before any additional cancellations for April.

I'm assuming the remaining UA flights will all be hub to hub?

I believe they will also maintain service to LHR/TLV/FRA (1 flight each) unless that has since changed.


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Does this also include Regional partner flights???
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:33 am

ojjunior wrote:

Also an unusual AC 77W service to EZE:

AC7052 from Toronto to Buenos Aires https://fr24.com/ACA7052/24518925


Unusual for right now you mean? Last time I checked AC still flies to EZE? And back when I used to take it it was a 77W (rarely 77L).
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:49 am

Titan A318 showing on FR24 at LHR right now, ZT801 taxiing to the runway. It looks to be operating a LHR-ACC rotation, possibly on behalf of the U.K. government as a repatriation flight? Very rare aircraft and even rarer route-pairing for an A318.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:21 am

KL828 on its return flight from Australia / Sydney to The Netherlands. 20 years later.

https://imgur.com/HppQi3M
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:52 am

FCAFLYBOY wrote:
Titan A318 showing on FR24 at LHR right now, ZT801 taxiing to the runway. It looks to be operating a LHR-ACC rotation, possibly on behalf of the U.K. government as a repatriation flight? Very rare aircraft and even rarer route-pairing for an A318.


Thats a weird one. That A318 is in an all business class config i believe.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:14 am

It is the former BA Cityflyer aircraft.

They fly from LCY to NY.

100% Business class.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:11 am

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It is the former BA Cityflyer aircraft.

They fly from LCY to NY.

100% Business class.


I believe Titan acquired one of them, no? In that case she’ll no longer be in an all-J layout. I can’t possibly see why it would be flying LHR-ACC in an all-J layout particularly. I believe Titan acquired this frame last year, and converted the config.
 
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:02 pm

Plane Holland wrote:
KL828 on its return flight from Australia / Sydney to The Netherlands. 20 years later.

https://imgur.com/HppQi3M


A couple of photos of KLM departing SYD today

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https://twitter.com/aussiepomm/status/1 ... 94721?s=20
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Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - April 2020

Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:41 pm

IAG looking at retiring all BA 747s and IB A346s, and some EI A330s.

https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/i ... 96.article
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