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BealineV953
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:53 pm

bennett123 wrote:
Didn't know that Brooklands had sold their Super VC10, Where is it going?.


The Brooklands Museum announced at the end of August that ZA150, the VC-10 at Dunsfold, has been sold to GJD Services along with two simulators. GJD acquired the aircraft for Kepler Aerospace, based at Midland Texas. Kepler plan to use the VC-10 as a refueller for their satellite programme. If everything goes to plan, ZA150 will be ferried to St Athan to be prepared for Kepler.
Somewhere I read that two VC-10s at Bruntingthorpe may be or have been acquired by Kepler. The aircraft at Bruntingthorpe face an uncertain future because the airfield is less friendly to aeroplanes than it once was.
Ever since childhood, when I lived within sight of London Airport, I have seldom seen a plane go by and not wished I was on it.”
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bennett123
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:12 pm

Will be a pity to lose another VC10, but at least it will fly again.

Hopefully it will still be at St Athan next time that I get down there.

Perhaps it will to to a good home when Kepler have finished with it, (Pima?).

The Bruntingthorpe VC10's will provide some useful spares.
 
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:39 pm

Is someone really trying to get a VC10 back in the air? That's bonkers, but in the best way possible. I want to see it.
 
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BA 747 Landing at Dunsfold

Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:54 pm

It appears BA 744 G-CIVW is making her final flight into Dunsfold.

There is already a ex BA 747 there which had been used as a film prop.

Looks like this aircraft is going to have a second life as well:

https://simpleflying.com/british-airway ... -film-set/

https://www.flightradar24.com/BAW9178/25d7287b

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... /#25d7287b

Thanks!
 
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Re: BA 747 Landing at Dunsfold

Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:23 pm

My brother (who lives locally) posted a video of the landing, it seems to have drawn quite a crowd.
 
Arion640
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:28 pm

Great news G-CIVW will be preserved in BA livery.
 
Arion640
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:44 am

Now confirmed G-CIVB to be preserved at Kemble.
 
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mercure1
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:17 pm

mercure f-wtcc
 
MileHFL400
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:46 pm

Is it likely that any of the Ex BA 747-400’s will take to the skies again under a new owner ?
Thanks and best Regards
AA
 
bennett123
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:57 pm

Well apart from Avatar.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1435305&p=22520655&hilit=Avatar#p22520655

Somehow, I doubt it.

G-BNLY CWL
G-BYGA Kemble
G-BYGB Kemble
G-BYGC CWL
G-BYGD CWL
G-BYGE Kemble
G-BYGF Kemble
G-BYGG CWL
G-CIVA TEU
G-CIVB Kemble
G-CIVC DGX
G-CIVD CDT
G-CIVF NQY
G-CIVH CDT
G-CIVJ Kemble
G-CIVK DGX
G-CIVL Kemble
G-CIVN Kemble
G-CIVO Kemble
G-CIVR TEU
G-CIVS TEU
G-CIVT TEU
G-CIVU DGX
G-CIVV CDT
G-CIVW Dunsfold
G-CIVX TEU
G-CIVY DGX
G-CIVZ NQY

So far as I know, the Kemble aircraft will be scrapped (apart from G-CIVB, which is being preserved). Those at DGX will also be scrapped, (four BA B747 have already gone this year). The one at Dunsfold is for film work.

That leaves the two at NQY, which are likely to be broken up.

The ones at Cardiff and Spain, I am unsure about.
 
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:21 pm

The two at NQY are well on the way to being broken up before Christmas.
 
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:04 pm

Thanks for posting the resting places of many of the 744's. A complete video record of the BA 747-400 fleet is now online, several film makers collaborated and produced the ultimate record of the fleet - > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aRXBs8KvE0

To answer the question above - NONE of the BA 744's will fly again with any owner, or are likely to ever fly again in any capacity.
 
bennett123
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:47 pm

I suspected that would be the case with NQY, thanks for confirming.
 
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JannEejit
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:36 am

mercure1 wrote:


Which frames will that be ? There are around 30 or so A320 family currently assembled at GLA over the last week or so. Mainly A319, but also A320 in CEO and NEO flavours.
 
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:02 am

- only NEO in GLA is G-NEOW, could just be for maintenance at the BA GLA maintenance facility
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bennett123
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:22 am

mercure1

Is there a link confirming 33 going to Palma.
 
fcogafa
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:04 pm

At least 30 A320s arrived Palma last week, plus 34 A319/20/21 are at Glasgow. Also 25 or so at Gatwick, many ferried from Heathrow this week
 
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:32 pm

bennett123 wrote:
mercure1

Is there a link confirming 33 going to Palma.

If you have a look at the BA Source, you can scroll down to the Aircraft info bit to see the list of Aircraft positioned for storage.

eg the A320 fleet - http://thebasource.com/aircraft/a320/
 
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JannEejit
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:21 pm

ba319-131 wrote:
- only NEO in GLA is G-NEOW, could just be for maintenance at the BA GLA maintenance facility


They'll need a heavy lift crane to pluck it out of the throng if it's due maintenance ! :o
 
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:13 pm

Bhoy wrote:
bennett123 wrote:
mercure1

Is there a link confirming 33 going to Palma.

If you have a look at the BA Source, you can scroll down to the Aircraft info bit to see the list of Aircraft positioned for storage.

eg the A320 fleet - http://thebasource.com/aircraft/a320/


Or probably easier use http://thebasource.com/maintenance-tracker/
 
bennett123
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:28 pm

Should be able to taxi G-NEOW out surely.
 
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JannEejit
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:16 am

bennett123 wrote:
Should be able to taxi G-NEOW out surely.


Not unless the parking arrangements have changed since I visited for a look last week. She was on stand 34 at the West side of the international pier. That entire apron area is hosting the vast majority of the stored BA fleet, all of which are parked nose to tail and wing tip to wing tip, and more have arrived there since. There are some A319 right up at the blast fence which will not be retrieved without shifting several other aircraft first.
 
Arion640
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:39 am

They’ll only be sitting there until April before the mass re-start begins.
 
bennett123
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:22 am

Moving a few more planes will not take long.

It is not as if their undercarriage had been removed.
 
BealineV953
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:07 pm

MrFlashjet1 wrote:
Thanks for posting the resting places of many of the 744's.

NONE of the BA 744's will fly again with any owner, or are likely to ever fly again in any capacity.


Yesterday (23NOV) G-BYGG positioned from CWL to St Athan. This followed an abortive attempt to make the short trip on 20NOV.
My guess is that the other 747s left at CWL will also be flown out to wherever they are to be broken up. If not, the very last BA 747 flight was YGG yesterday.
Ever since childhood, when I lived within sight of London Airport, I have seldom seen a plane go by and not wished I was on it.”
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BealineV953
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:16 pm

fcogafa wrote:
At least 30 A320s arrived Palma last week, plus 34 A319/20/21 are at Glasgow. Also 25 or so at Gatwick, many ferried from Heathrow this week


The entire A321 fleet (ceos, not neos) positioned to Madrid over the past week or so, most from GLA. BA Source has two of them making the trip for maintenance, the rest for storage.
Ever since childhood, when I lived within sight of London Airport, I have seldom seen a plane go by and not wished I was on it.”
With apologies to Paul Theroux - ‘The Great Railway Bazaar’
 
BealineV953
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:31 pm

Opus99 wrote:
https://twitter.com/mzulqarnainbut1/status/1314928592359481344?s=21

BA will begin to move 380s to proper long term storage



Over the past week or so...
G-XLEF, XEG, XEI, XEL positioned to Madrid for storage.
G-XLEA, XEB positioned to Teruel for storage.
Ever since childhood, when I lived within sight of London Airport, I have seldom seen a plane go by and not wished I was on it.”
With apologies to Paul Theroux - ‘The Great Railway Bazaar’
 
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JannEejit
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:28 pm

bennett123 wrote:
Should be able to taxi G-NEOW out surely.


It departed today back to LHR.
 
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JannEejit
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:29 pm

bennett123 wrote:
Moving a few more planes will not take long.

It is not as if their undercarriage had been removed.


A few no... Up to thirty odd though ?
;)
 
bennett123
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:32 pm

Would they need to move every plane just to move this one out?.
 
TUGMASTER
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:34 pm

JannEejit wrote:
bennett123 wrote:
Moving a few more planes will not take long.

It is not as if their undercarriage had been removed.


A few no... Up to thirty odd though ?
;)



They have to move every 15 days or so... only 3 or 4 foot, to rotate the wheel bearings IIRC.
 
 
bennett123
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:42 pm

http://www.southwalesaviationgroup.co.u ... athan.html

G-BYGD has now me it's last flight frown CWL to DGX.
 
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:41 pm

BNLY (Landor) has apparently been saved. New home to be announced...
 
Arion640
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:45 pm

CarbonFibre wrote:
BNLY (Landor) has apparently been saved. New home to be announced...


Dunsfold
 
bennett123
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:22 pm

 
BealineV953
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:32 am

BealineV953 wrote:
Opus99 wrote:
https://twitter.com/mzulqarnainbut1/status/1314928592359481344?s=21

BA will begin to move 380s to proper long term storage



Over the past week or so...
G-XLEF, XEG, XEI, XEL positioned to Madrid for storage.
G-XLEA, XEB positioned to Teruel for storage.


Yesterday, 1st December, G-XLEK positioned to Madrid for storage.
Ever since childhood, when I lived within sight of London Airport, I have seldom seen a plane go by and not wished I was on it.”
With apologies to Paul Theroux - ‘The Great Railway Bazaar’
 
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:19 pm

It’s nice to see them saved, but once the nostalgia and emotion of the retirement wears off, I just don't see how this ends for all the frames.

A 744 is an expensive museum piece. A 744 stored outside is even more expensive.

Dunsfold for example is going to have 3 747s, if I'm not mistaken, with 2 as film sets. Is there that much demand for aircraft film sets? And what's the gimmick for the other frame? "Come see our 747...it's painted a little differently than the other one!"
 
bennett123
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:30 am

 
bennett123
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:11 am

Actually it is G-CIVK.

Typo.
 
TC957
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:30 am

Why did BA not use BOH for A319 / 320 storage like last time ? Would surely have been quicker and cheaper to ferry them to & fro back to their LHR base compared to PMI.
 
bennett123
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:32 pm

Depends how long they will be stored for.

BOH is colder and damper than PMI.

California is a lot further away.

Also IB or VY may have staff locally to keep an eye on things.
 
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:07 pm

FGITD wrote:
It’s nice to see them saved, but once the nostalgia and emotion of the retirement wears off, I just don't see how this ends for all the frames.

A 744 is an expensive museum piece. A 744 stored outside is even more expensive.


I think once things have died down the ones at St Athan and Kemble will be quietly scrapped. Same thing will probably happen to the two at Dunsfold once redevelopment starts. I can't see them both being kept in airworthy condition.
 
TC957
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:11 pm

bennett123 wrote:
Depends how long they will be stored for.

BOH is colder and damper than PMI.

California is a lot further away.

Also IB or VY may have staff locally to keep an eye on things.

The weather's not that great in the western Med either at the moment.
 
bennett123
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:49 pm

St Athan is normally the end of the road.
 
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mercure1
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:14 pm

Another A380 being moved from Chateauroux to Teruel

G-XLEC
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW ... 1453Z/LFLX
mercure f-wtcc
 
Breathe
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:41 pm

mercure1 wrote:
Another A380 being moved from Chateauroux to Teruel

G-XLEC
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW ... 1453Z/LFLX

What does that have to do with the 747 fleet being retired? :confused:
 
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mercure1
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:56 pm

Breathe wrote:
What does that have to do with the 747 fleet being retired? :confused:


This is the BA fleet parking thread :old:
mercure f-wtcc
 
PartsGuy20
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:09 pm

How does one go about acquiring parts from an aircraft that is being scrapped, without waiting/hoping they show up from a separate company like Aerotiques? My wife and I flew on CIVR on our honeymoon and I'm interested in getting something off of it once the scrapping process begins - would I have to contact the scrapping company directly? Does anyone have info on doing this?
 
TC957
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Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired

Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:33 pm

PartsGuy20 wrote:
How does one go about acquiring parts from an aircraft that is being scrapped, without waiting/hoping they show up from a separate company like Aerotiques? My wife and I flew on CIVR on our honeymoon and I'm interested in getting something off of it once the scrapping process begins - would I have to contact the scrapping company directly? Does anyone have info on doing this?

It's unfortunate for you that CIVR is in Teruel making it harder to get a bit of her compared to one of the Kemble airframes. But yes, an initial contact with the scrapping company will be your first call and see what they can help with. Good luck !
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