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Consolidation of Airport Operations

Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:21 pm

I heard that Concourse E at ATL is closed. It seems like Delta could actually get by with consolidating at A, T and F for now. What other hub airports are closing concourses and gates?
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:46 pm

At AMS only piers D, E and F are in use. Only part of B is in use. The other piers are closed. (C, G, H, M and parts of B). Also, departure hall 1 and lounge 3 are closed.
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:54 pm

YVR Piers A and B closed, all domestic flights are using Pier C. Much of international and transborder closed too.
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:59 pm

The A gates in the International terminal at sfo are closed. All international departing G
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:35 pm

In Kiev, IEV airport is closed outright for commercial pax traffic. Its cross-town rival airport, KBP, closed its main terminal D, and for consolidated all outgoing traffic in terminal F, while all incoming traffic is routed through terminal B.
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:43 pm

At Gatwick the North Terminal is closed unbelievably and operations consolidated in South Terminal where pier 3 is closed and ops just in pier 1 and part of pier 2 however with less than 10 flights most days even this may change. However some 100 planes parked throughout the airport sadly nowhere to go, just pray we get this all resolved before the critical summer peak season
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:01 pm

FRA has closed T2 entirely and has mostly consolidated to T1B
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:11 pm

DTW has sealed off all the C gates in the McNamara/Delta concourse. I took this photo on the last day of operations from those gates (April 1, 2020). Those gates are now storing CRJs taken out of service.

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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:02 pm

MAD first consolidated all T1-T2-T3 operations into just T1. Now all those few flights have moved over to T4, where the satellite is unused.
Even with all operations at T4, it is just using the H gates area, that is the southern part of the looong T4 concourse with the red columns. The non-schengen flights requiring passport clearance use the southernmost area equipped with police booths (the former regular area for IB EU&non schengen)
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:18 pm

For JFK:
Terminal 7 closed- ANA is now at T4, BA, AS, IB, etc are at T8.
Terminal 5 (JetBlue) closes daily 8PM any arrivals/departure after that time use T4
Terminal 2 closed- all Delta flights consolidated to T4
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:40 pm

Paris Orly airport (ORY) had been closed after traffic shrunk from 600 daily flights with 90,000 passengers to just 10 flights with 1,000 passengers.

The remaining comercial services have been transfered to Roissy Charles de Gaulle (CDG).

[qoute][...]Charles de Gaulle is also reeling from the coronavirus crisis, with around 10,000 passengers a day compared to 200,000 before the pandemic struck. [...][/quote]

https://www.france24.com/en/20200331-pa ... rus-crisis
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:12 am

LHR T5 has closed T5C
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:23 pm

gq wrote:
For JFK:
Terminal 7 closed- ANA is now at T4, BA, AS, IB, etc are at T8.
Terminal 5 (JetBlue) closes daily 8PM any arrivals/departure after that time use T4
Terminal 2 closed- all Delta flights consolidated to T4


Terminal 1 also closes around 8:30. However, T1 is only having 2-3 operations a day: to and from FCO (AZ, daily on AZ608.9), to and from ICN (KE, daily on KE81/2), and to and from HND (JL, sub-daily on JL5/6), and so T1 really should be closing with the departure of AZ609 each day, that is: no later than 4:45 PM. (When BR resumes service, it will likely be directed to Terminal 4.)

As for EWR, with United down to just 30 movements a day (last summer, the schedule would have had about 860 movements), and most other international flights canceled, perhaps everything should be consolidated to Terminal B, the terminal directly operated by the Port Authority.
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:43 pm

All MNL airline arrivals and departures are now concentrated at NAIA Terminal 1. :airplane: A huge change from the usual "congestion" and kind of ironic since it's invariably linked with the airport whenever the topic comes up. :crowded:
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:14 pm

I thought this was a pretty good idea.

Because DFW has 3 air traffic control towers, they have consolidated all their operations to one control tower.

All traffic is taking off and landing on 17/35 controlled by the east tower. The west tower and rwys 18/36 are closed. If there is a need to disinfect and sanitize the east tower, operations shift to the west tower and 18/36s.

If the TRACON needs to be disinfected and sanitized due to infection, then the center control tower will be activated to perform the TRACON approach and departure control duties.
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:19 pm

Very interesting...any word on ORD, MSP, CLT or DEN? Would be curious about those airports
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:47 pm

In addition to the consolidations, you also have re-deployment of gates to fit different aircraft mixes to reflect the different mix of aircraft flying routes currently.
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:03 pm

Stuttgart STR (sandwichrd in between Frankfurt FRA and Zurich ZRH) has been shut down. Since most flights had been cancelled anyway, they will now make use of the opportunity to execute runway construction works. However, they still plan to re-open later this month.

https://www.eturbonews.com/569099/stutt ... -april-22/

Frankfurt FRA has closed Terminal 2 on the background of the traffic collapse (data of week 14/2020 (March 30 – April 5) :

Passengers: (-95,2%)
Cargo: (-25%)
Movements: (-85,1%)

https://www.eturbonews.com/569551/frank ... 0-april-5/
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:05 pm

MSP - it appears the only section really closed-off is Concourse B. Flights are still departing today from gates on A, C, D, E, F, G.
I would venture to guess that DL and (OO & 9E) are only using a sub-set of gates actively on each concourse.
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:54 pm

CIDFlyer wrote:
Very interesting...any word on ORD, MSP, CLT or DEN? Would be curious about those airports


ORD has closed 2 runways (9L/27R and 10R/28L) and consolidated to one ATC tower. I believe the stinger concourse in L (L20-24) is closed with parked aircraft. Not aware of any other full/partial terminal closures. Consolidated TSA checkpoints as well.

Can't speak to the other airports. Haven't passed through any of them lately.
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:38 am

alasizon wrote:
In addition to the consolidations, you also have re-deployment of gates to fit different aircraft mixes to reflect the different mix of aircraft flying routes currently.


Is anyone actually doing that right now? All of the consolidations, equipment swaps, and charters I’ve dealt with to this point are utilizing what’s existing; the only thing even remotely justifiable has been striping repair.
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:50 am

wn676 wrote:
alasizon wrote:
In addition to the consolidations, you also have re-deployment of gates to fit different aircraft mixes to reflect the different mix of aircraft flying routes currently.


Is anyone actually doing that right now? All of the consolidations, equipment swaps, and charters I’ve dealt with to this point are utilizing what’s existing; the only thing even remotely justifiable has been striping repair.


There are at least two that I know of (including one I'm leading) that are due to not having enough RJ striped gates. Paint is cheaper than running a 319 on a route that should be an RJ.
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:57 am

Changi is shutting down T2 from May 1 for 18 months. The terminal is being redeveloped so once the "circuit breaker" measures are over on May 4, presumably the work continues. The T2 redevelopment is expected to be completed a year earlier. This also means SQ and MI will consolidate all remaining flights (5-7 per day) at T3. T4 is likely to also be shut down.
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:11 am

Miami International Airport has closed Concourses F and G. Concourse E remains open but is largely being used to park American Airlines aircraft.

American flights depart out of D and everyone else is departing from H and J now. American Eagle is now using former mainline gates D47, D49, and D51.
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:22 am

ARN has closed terminals 2,3 and 4 and all flights are now using terminal 5.
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:27 am

DL has consolidated LAX operation at T2, T3 is now closed UFN.
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:15 am

YYC has closed Concourse A in the domestic terminal. All domestic flights using B and C. Doesn't look like any flights departing from D (International), and almost none from E (transborder).
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:22 pm

Interestingly enough FLL has not consolidated ops. Looking at today’s schedule:
AC: 1 flight
AA: 2 flights
Alaska: 2 flights
Allegiant*: 1 flight
DL: 7 flights
B6: 18 flights
Silver: 0 flights
WN: 36 flights
NK: 6 flights (but I don’t trust that number)
UA: 6 flights
I know Azul is also operating.
You could easily put Azul, AC, B6 in A; WN in B; and everything else in C for now. Maybe keep DL in T2 D just so that you’re ready for an increase.
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:45 pm

Currently all of DEN is open, although north security has been closed and passengers are being funneled through either the bridge or south security due to low passenger levels.
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:10 pm

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
MSP - it appears the only section really closed-off is Concourse B. Flights are still departing today from gates on A, C, D, E, F, G.
I would venture to guess that DL and (OO & 9E) are only using a sub-set of gates actively on each concourse.


MSP also only has one security checkpoint open at each terminal.
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:57 pm

AUS closed gates 29-34 and rumor has it they will close gates 1-11 also.
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:00 pm

Burbank Airport will close Terminal B beginning 6 p.m. Friday. All departing and arriving flights, ticket counter, baggage services, and security screenings will take place at Terminal A until further notice.
Additionally parking lots A and C, as well as valet parking, are closed.
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:15 pm

I received an email from UNITED noting that IAH (Houston-Bush Intercontinental) was closing the lobby, including checkpoint and check-in counters of Terminal B. Sounds like they will still use for RJs, but the pre-sec areas are closed.
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:40 pm

DSM looks to be consolidating operations starting next week.

alasizon wrote:
wn676 wrote:
alasizon wrote:
In addition to the consolidations, you also have re-deployment of gates to fit different aircraft mixes to reflect the different mix of aircraft flying routes currently.


Is anyone actually doing that right now? All of the consolidations, equipment swaps, and charters I’ve dealt with to this point are utilizing what’s existing; the only thing even remotely justifiable has been striping repair.


There are at least two that I know of (including one I'm leading) that are due to not having enough RJ striped gates. Paint is cheaper than running a 319 on a route that should be an RJ.


That makes sense, I guess I’m just surprised the gate wouldn’t have already been marked for an RJ. Unless there’s some physical limitation we‘ll usually mark anything that fits for maximum flexibility.
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:42 pm

SNA has walled off gates 1-4 and 17-22. Additionally Security A is closed.
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:56 pm

Aisak wrote:
MAD first consolidated all T1-T2-T3 operations into just T1. Now all those few flights have moved over to T4, where the satellite is unused.
Even with all operations at T4, it is just using the H gates area, that is the southern part of the looong T4 concourse with the red columns. The non-schengen flights requiring passport clearance use the southernmost area equipped with police booths (the former regular area for IB EU&non schengen)


Wouldn't T4S be necessary for passengers requiring security screening as well as passport control? Also it's only the satellite that can handle widebodies.
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:16 am

In ATL Delta has parked aircraft on C, pulled jetways and no power on their end of concourse. Other half of C is Southwest.
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:49 am

wn676 wrote:
DSM looks to be consolidating operations starting next week.

alasizon wrote:
wn676 wrote:

Is anyone actually doing that right now? All of the consolidations, equipment swaps, and charters I’ve dealt with to this point are utilizing what’s existing; the only thing even remotely justifiable has been striping repair.


There are at least two that I know of (including one I'm leading) that are due to not having enough RJ striped gates. Paint is cheaper than running a 319 on a route that should be an RJ.


That makes sense, I guess I’m just surprised the gate wouldn’t have already been marked for an RJ. Unless there’s some physical limitation we‘ll usually mark anything that fits for maximum flexibility.


It has to do more with adding additional RJ lines to gates to remain jetway slope compliant where the main line is not an option or converting gates to 2 RJ gates. Another one I'm aware of is having to add a different lead-in line but using existing stop blocks because the aircraft can't come straight in for whatever reason and instead has to come in at a 30 degree angle before straightening out in the last 15-20 feet.
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:52 pm

Logan Airport in Boston has shutdown part of Terminal C's piers due to low traffic. Cape Air was moved to the International Terminal (E).

Delta doesn't seem to have anything "flying" day-to-day from the satellite side of Terminal A.
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:55 am

LAS closed Concourses B (WN) and E gates (Terminal 3) - Terminal 3 check-in and baggage claim open, departures using D concourse from Terminal 3 - AS B6 - assume the foreign flags are not flying in to LAS currently

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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:32 pm

DL has closed-off further sections of their facilities at DTW.

Concourse C is completely closed
Concourse B south-end B18,B19,B20 is closed
Concourse A south-end A1-A28 is closed
Tram is closed
All SkyClubs are closed
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:43 pm

usflyer msp wrote:
PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
MSP - it appears the only section really closed-off is Concourse B. Flights are still departing today from gates on A, C, D, E, F, G.
I would venture to guess that DL and (OO & 9E) are only using a sub-set of gates actively on each concourse.


MSP also only has one security checkpoint open at each terminal.


Also, it looks like they have been using only the 12/30s for operations and not 17/35. My apartment faces south toward the airport, and most nights when they typically use 17 for southbound departures they are now using either the 12s or 30s and then just turning them south. I am guessing that allows them to run MSP tower with fewer staff.
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:06 pm

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
DL has closed-off further sections of their facilities at DTW.

Concourse C is completely closed
Concourse B south-end B18,B19,B20 is closed
Concourse A south-end A1-A28 is closed
Tram is closed
All SkyClubs are closed


Any thoughts why they're using B1-B16 while A1-A28 is closed?
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:56 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
DL has closed-off further sections of their facilities at DTW.

Concourse C is completely closed
Concourse B south-end B18,B19,B20 is closed
Concourse A south-end A1-A28 is closed
Tram is closed
All SkyClubs are closed


Any thoughts why they're using B1-B16 while A1-A28 is closed?

I imagine the jet bridges in A can't accommodate the crjs
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:08 am

MIflyer12 wrote:
PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
DL has closed-off further sections of their facilities at DTW.

Concourse C is completely closed
Concourse B south-end B18,B19,B20 is closed
Concourse A south-end A1-A28 is closed
Tram is closed
All SkyClubs are closed


Any thoughts why they're using B1-B16 while A1-A28 is closed?

Primarily three reasons:
1) The need for parking positions for mainline aircraft - thus turning the south end of A into RON/hardstands
2) DGS/Unifi below wing infrastructure for CRJs and also other DCI infrastructure such as OO crew rooms are out on B
3) while the gates on the south end of A could physically fit a CR2/CR9, many either aren't stripped for such, the jetbridge slope would be too great, or they don't have enough bridge adapters

The closed gates on A are supposedly being used to hardstand mainline aircraft
The closed gates on B & C are being used to hardstand OO & 9E CR2/CR9s
 
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:09 am

aemoreira1981 wrote:
gq wrote:
For JFK:
Terminal 7 closed- ANA is now at T4, BA, AS, IB, etc are at T8.
Terminal 5 (JetBlue) closes daily 8PM any arrivals/departure after that time use T4
Terminal 2 closed- all Delta flights consolidated to T4


Terminal 1 also closes around 8:30. However, T1 is only having 2-3 operations a day: to and from FCO (AZ, daily on AZ608.9), to and from ICN (KE, daily on KE81/2), and to and from HND (JL, sub-daily on JL5/6), and so T1 really should be closing with the departure of AZ609 each day, that is: no later than 4:45 PM. (When BR resumes service, it will likely be directed to Terminal 4.)

As for EWR, with United down to just 30 movements a day (last summer, the schedule would have had about 860 movements), and most other international flights canceled, perhaps everything should be consolidated to Terminal B, the terminal directly operated by the Port Authority.


AF is flying about 3x per week JFK T1-CDG - departure is 730pm. Flight number changes daily but it is basically AF007.
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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:01 am

Will T2 at LHR ever get it’s own baggage system? The reason T1 cannot be demolished is because T2 relies on T1’s baggage system to operate. Sounds like poor planning to me.

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