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2020 NFL Charters

Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:01 pm

Assuming the NFL is cleared to play this fall/winter what types of aircraft will be used for charters? UA and DL have parked 75/76 that are normally used for these flights. Will there be use of A330s from DL and 777 from UA, teams forced to use two aircraft like Green Bay did last year, or will both UA and DL put 767s back into service?
 
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Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:25 pm

Delta hasn't parked them all.
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Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:27 pm

just b/c those are parked now does not mean there won't be any flying this fall. It is way to early to be even trying to figure out what will happen in the fall.
 
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Re: 2020 NFL Charters

Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:09 pm

Let's wait and see if the NFL even plays this year. I'm a huge fan, but I have my doubts there will be a season this fall.
 
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Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:47 am

tsra wrote:
Assuming the NFL is cleared to play this fall/winter what types of aircraft will be used for charters? UA and DL have parked 75/76 that are normally used for these flights. Will there be use of A330s from DL and 777 from UA, teams forced to use two aircraft like Green Bay did last year, or will both UA and DL put 767s back into service?


I think one reason the Packers used two planes (IIRC, it would've been a combination of either 737/757/A321) was what could be accommodated at either ATW or GBY. Also, the Indianapolis Colts typically used two NBs for their DL charters over the past few seasons, as I recall.

That said, teams which charter with AA (Dallas, Philadelphia, Carolina) might be the hardest hit with virtually the entire WB fleet grounded.
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Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:59 pm

ctrabs0114 wrote:
I think one reason the Packers used two planes (IIRC, it would've been a combination of either 737/757/A321) was what could be accommodated at either ATW or GBY. Also, the Indianapolis Colts typically used two NBs for their DL charters over the past few seasons, as I recall.

The Packers exclusively fly out of Green Bay (airport code GRB, not GBY). Visiting teams typically use ATW for their arrival to the Green Bay area and depart from GRB after the game. Both airports have runways that are 8,000+ feet, so they are well-equipped to handle widebody aircraft. The Packers have used NW/DL 747s out of GRB in the past and both airports have seen A330s and 767s in recent years.
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2020 NFL Charters

Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:57 pm

ctrabs0114 wrote:
tsra wrote:
Assuming the NFL is cleared to play this fall/winter what types of aircraft will be used for charters? UA and DL have parked 75/76 that are normally used for these flights. Will there be use of A330s from DL and 777 from UA, teams forced to use two aircraft like Green Bay did last year, or will both UA and DL put 767s back into service?


I think one reason the Packers used two planes (IIRC, it would've been a combination of either 737/757/A321) was what could be accommodated at either ATW or GBY. Also, the Indianapolis Colts typically used two NBs for their DL charters over the past few seasons, as I recall.

That said, teams which charter with AA (Dallas, Philadelphia, Carolina) might be the hardest hit with virtually the entire WB fleet grounded.

No, the entire AA WB fleet is not grounded. A few are out there operating cargo flights to ICN/PVG/LHR/EZE/DUB/FRA/HKG and AMS (come next week) and the few pax flights to LHR and the DFW-NRT/ plus some domestic legs.

As mentioned upthread, just because many are parked right now come the fall if they need one or two they will use them.


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Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:19 am

Any word on what the Miami Dolphins will be using? They were often to be seen on the Miami Air B737-800s, usually two at a time.
 
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Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:21 am

DL and UA will still operate the 75/76 and they operate the majority of NFL charters.
 
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Any word on what the Miami Dolphins will be using? They were often to be seen on the Miami Air B737-800s, usually two at a time.


The Dolphins actually used 5Y 744s last season, from what I recall. Might be the same case this season, especially with LL essentially going out of business (if I recall correctly).
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Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:51 pm

Does anyone know if the Seahawks will continue to use Hawaiian Air for the majority of their away games (if they happen) for the 2020/2021 season? If so any flight numbers yet?
 
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Does anyone know if the Seahawks will continue to use Hawaiian Air for the majority of their away games (if they happen) for the 2020/2021 season? If so any flight numbers yet?


Only the Raiders out of LAS this year. Don't know who the Seahawks are using, but a good guess is Delta
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Re: 2020 NFL Charters

Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:07 am

ctrabs0114 wrote:
Joelatbsl wrote:
Any word on what the Miami Dolphins will be using? They were often to be seen on the Miami Air B737-800s, usually two at a time.


The Dolphins actually used 5Y 744s last season, from what I recall. Might be the same case this season, especially with LL essentially going out of business (if I recall correctly).


The Dolphins will indeed be using 5Y 744s this season.

Additionally, Team 125 appears to be out as the operator of the Patriots' tandem 763s. Eastern will now operate them on the team's behalf.
 
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Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:51 am

ctrabs0114 wrote:
Joelatbsl wrote:
Any word on what the Miami Dolphins will be using? They were often to be seen on the Miami Air B737-800s, usually two at a time.


The Dolphins actually used 5Y 744s last season, from what I recall. Might be the same case this season, especially with LL essentially going out of business (if I recall correctly).

Now it's public that 5Y are taking three VS 744s in pax spec......
 
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Re: 2020 NFL Charters

Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:58 pm

Now that we are a few weeks out from the start of the season, any word on how teams are flying this year? Are there enough 767s left in DL's and UA's fleets to cover the up coming season?
 
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Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:00 pm

Any word on who the Steelers and Ravens will be flying this year? PIT switched to DL last season and BAL was on Atlas Air.
 
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Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:35 pm

Channex757 wrote:
ctrabs0114 wrote:
Joelatbsl wrote:
Any word on what the Miami Dolphins will be using? They were often to be seen on the Miami Air B737-800s, usually two at a time.


The Dolphins actually used 5Y 744s last season, from what I recall. Might be the same case this season, especially with LL essentially going out of business (if I recall correctly).

Now it's public that 5Y are taking three VS 744s in pax spec......

I saw a tweet about this, but do we have any actual confirmation or timeline of the purchase? Surely not in time for the 2020-2021 NFL season.
 
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Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:56 pm

PVD523 wrote:
ctrabs0114 wrote:
Joelatbsl wrote:
Any word on what the Miami Dolphins will be using? They were often to be seen on the Miami Air B737-800s, usually two at a time.


The Dolphins actually used 5Y 744s last season, from what I recall. Might be the same case this season, especially with LL essentially going out of business (if I recall correctly).


The Dolphins will indeed be using 5Y 744s this season.

Additionally, Team 125 appears to be out as the operator of the Patriots' tandem 763s. Eastern will now operate them on the team's behalf.



What’s going on at Team 125? Wasn’t their only aircraft the Patriots’ 763?
 
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Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:44 pm

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Any word on who the Steelers and Ravens will be flying this year? PIT switched to DL last season and BAL was on Atlas Air.


Barring anything unusual, I wouldn't be shocked if it stays the same this season.
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Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:26 am

I'm curious what will the Eagles and Panthers will fly on since the A330 is in "retirement"
B788 and B772? Or just a bunch of A321?
 
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Runway28L wrote:
Any word on who the Steelers and Ravens will be flying this year? PIT switched to DL last season and BAL was on Atlas Air.

Hopefully all their planes get cancelled.
 
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UA444 wrote:
Runway28L wrote:
Any word on who the Steelers and Ravens will be flying this year? PIT switched to DL last season and BAL was on Atlas Air.

Hopefully both their planes get cancelled.
 
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Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:54 pm

Who has the most charters? Is it still United?

I’m assuming these charters are a lot more valuable this year so it would be perfect if airlines could go grab some of the Miami Air ones up.
 
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PHLspecial wrote:
I'm curious what will the Eagles and Panthers will fly on since the A330 is in "retirement"
B788 and B772? Or just a bunch of A321?


During the 2019 playoffs, the Eagles flew on a B772 from PHL when they played the Saints
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Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:51 pm

PHLspecial wrote:
I'm curious what will the Eagles and Panthers will fly on since the A330 is in "retirement"
B788 and B772? Or just a bunch of A321?

The Panthers were using a 772 last season also.
 
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:40 am

Found the Houston Texans' flight to Kansas City for Thursday night's game

UAL2536 IAH-MCI 753

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2536
 
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:55 pm

tsra wrote:
Found the Houston Texans' flight to Kansas City for Thursday night's game

UAL2536 IAH-MCI 753

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2536

It's now showing as a 777. N76010, to be exact.
 
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Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:00 am

Steelers appear to be on Delta again this season. Scheduled on a B764 to EWR on Sunday.
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Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:02 am

United’s 76L would be sweet charter planes ... lots of Polaris J seats to go around
 
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Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:41 am

Raiders flew HA A332 LAS-CLT today. It's their first "official" team trip since moving to Vegas.
 
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Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:10 am

Chargers flew in tonight on a DL 777-200ER, flying back to LAX Sunday night. Sad to see the DL 777 for maybe one of the final times, interiors looked so good.
 
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Additionally, Team 125 appears to be out as the operator of the Patriots' tandem 763s. Eastern will now operate them on the team's behalf.


Team 125 was basically an in-house flight department. If the Krafts want to make the two aircraft available for other teams, corporations, etc., to use, which makes enormous financial sense, then they can't do it as a Part 125 operation.

Also, if I'm the insurer of a couple of their zillion-dollar human capital, I don't want them flying in a private operation. I just don't. (I had a nice exchange some time back on this issue with one of the head guys at the nascent Team 125, and I know that he hired what he considered to be the best available people, and made a real effort to do a top-notch job. But it's still a small shop, with everything that entails.)

So, getting a Part 121 carrier to operate the aircraft on a CMI or similar basis makes a LOT of sense.

Choosing Eastern, however, in my opinion makes zero sense, if you care about things like pilot quality, pilot training, etc. Bob Kraft should know damn well that just because you have a law license and passed the bar exam doesn't mean you're as good as any other lawyer. Same for doctors. Same for pilots. And just because you hold the proper certification from the FAA doesn't mean you have the same safety culture as any other carrier. And beyond safety, just the ability to accomplish the mission, given your back-of-the-house, is totally different at a major carrier than at an Eastern.

For an operation like the Patriots, what makes sense is to have someone like Delta operate the jets the way Delta does for the NBA. You're going to get top-notch people in every segment of the operation, along with proper training, procedures, management, etc. If you look at Delta's NBA operation, the caliber of the guy in charge and his top people is absolutely-unparalleled, and the passion, competence, and dedication-to-detail that he brings to the table is extraordinary, on both the operations side and the service side, down to having notebooks on the charter plane detailing each individual guest's service and level-of-attention preferences. It's a professional operation to the thousand power.

If you don't want to do that because it's perhaps more expensive, then take a teensy step down to someone like ATI or Omni, who do tons of charter work. Hell, ATSG's maintenance arm, CAM, has been doing the maintenance on the Patriots' 767s since the beginning; that they wouldn't hire one of the two ATSG carriers that fly passengers seems odd. Or even Atlas, despite the unfortunate history they have been having recently. If the Patriots passed on ATSG because were taking a step up to a Delta or United, I get it. But taking a step DOWN?

Sometimes people have to learn the hard way. Wasn't that an Eastern 737 that ran off the runway at LGA on a presidential or vice-presidential campaign-plane charter, due largely to pilot issues? How likely would it be that a Delta or United or American pilot made that error? Could have, but the pilot experience/quality, the CRM, the training, the procedures, the enforcement of procedures, etc. of a major passenger airline all add up to make it less-likely. Maybe after a season of issues with the safe, enjoyable and timely completion of missions, they'll revisit their choice of carrier.

The only thing I can think of is that Eastern agreed to hire on all the people from Team 125 that would be losing their jobs. That shouldn't be the clincher; it just shouldn't. But if I were a betting man, I would say that it was.
 
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Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:05 am

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Can't find charters for the Cardinals (@SF)

They are using an Atlas 744. They will be flying to SJC today.
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Tampa Bay Bucs @ New Orleans Saints - Delta 777

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Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:10 pm

Just drove by FLL and saw a 5Y 744. Presumably taking the Dolphins to NE.
 
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Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:37 pm

wjcandee wrote:
Sometimes people have to learn the hard way. Wasn't that an Eastern 737 that ran off the runway at LGA on a presidential or vice-presidential campaign-plane charter, due largely to pilot issues? How likely would it be that a Delta or United or American pilot made that error? Could have, but the pilot experience/quality, the CRM, the training, the procedures, the enforcement of procedures, etc. of a major passenger airline all add up to make it less-likely. Maybe after a season of issues with the safe, enjoyable and timely completion of missions, they'll revisit their choice of carrier.


Your memory seems a hair selective. Three carriers have trashed perfectly good aircraft while landing at LGA in the not-too-distant past. You’ve mentioned two of them. WN - hardly a fly by night operation - is the third.
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Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:43 pm

Cubsrule wrote:
wjcandee wrote:
Sometimes people have to learn the hard way. Wasn't that an Eastern 737 that ran off the runway at LGA on a presidential or vice-presidential campaign-plane charter, due largely to pilot issues? How likely would it be that a Delta or United or American pilot made that error? Could have, but the pilot experience/quality, the CRM, the training, the procedures, the enforcement of procedures, etc. of a major passenger airline all add up to make it less-likely. Maybe after a season of issues with the safe, enjoyable and timely completion of missions, they'll revisit their choice of carrier.


Your memory seems a hair selective. Three carriers have trashed perfectly good aircraft while landing at LGA in the not-too-distant past. You’ve mentioned two of them. WN - hardly a fly by night operation - is the third.


I hear you. (Hence the "could have".) But consider this: It's isn't the FACT OF the accident that's the issue. It's the REASON FOR the accident that's the issue.

And compare the number of landings made by Eastern aircraft in that calendar year vs WN vs DL. Methinks the percentages show something, as well.
 
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Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:53 pm

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Very surprised they are using a 747-400 into BED - that would be a sight to see.
 
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Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:55 pm

wjcandee wrote:
Cubsrule wrote:
wjcandee wrote:
Sometimes people have to learn the hard way. Wasn't that an Eastern 737 that ran off the runway at LGA on a presidential or vice-presidential campaign-plane charter, due largely to pilot issues? How likely would it be that a Delta or United or American pilot made that error? Could have, but the pilot experience/quality, the CRM, the training, the procedures, the enforcement of procedures, etc. of a major passenger airline all add up to make it less-likely. Maybe after a season of issues with the safe, enjoyable and timely completion of missions, they'll revisit their choice of carrier.


Your memory seems a hair selective. Three carriers have trashed perfectly good aircraft while landing at LGA in the not-too-distant past. You’ve mentioned two of them. WN - hardly a fly by night operation - is the third.


I hear you. (Hence the "could have".) But consider this: It's isn't the FACT OF the accident that's the issue. It's the REASON FOR the accident that's the issue.

And compare the number of landings made by Eastern aircraft in that calendar year vs WN vs DL. Methinks the percentages show something, as well.


I don’t get too worked up over numbers of accidents. The numbers - even for a carrier like Eastern or Biscayne - are so low that they aren’t terribly meaningful.
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Of course, this kind of stuff is why you want an in-house department: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... lond-crews

I'm pretty-sure there's another side to this story, and it probably has a lot less to do with how "attractive" the f/a's are as much as it has to do, if anything, with their reputation for providing quality service. The last thing that most teams want is fraternization between the crew and the players, with all the messy liability issues and such that entails. Which is why, for example, the cheerleaders on most teams are prohibited from interacting with the players. But what they DO want is excellent service. As is the case with most high-paying executives these days. I used to absolutely love the somewhat-matronly TWA flight attendants on the highly-bid routes that I used to fly. They provided amazing service like they did Back In The Day. Or when American had the senior-citizen recruits for a period of time, who were often men, and who were always amazing -- just a higher caliber of person all-around in the maturity and caring department. I suspect we will find that this is just a couple of bitter, unhappy people aligned with some plaintiffs' lawyers who are trying to make a quick buck. One other point: sometimes, but not always, one's attention to one's physical appearance indicates something about personal discipline, organization, etc. It's not always the case that a person who presents themself as a slob is a slob, of course, but sometimes the dumpy person is also the person who sighs when you ask them for something that's actually going to make them drag their fat load somewhere to get it for you. (Other times not, of course, but I'm willing to bet on the percentages based on my own personal experience.) I will be interested, accordingly, to see the fitness level of these allegedly-discriminated-against plaintiffs.

Now, all this said, if the team did actually specify only blond, young FAs, and/or United had a policy only of using them in an effort to make the charter customers happy, with nothing more, then their appearance has already been ruled in many past labor law cases not to be a bona-fide occupational qualification and the airline is likely in trouble. But on charters like this, you want the people who are willing to study the lists of customer preferences, willing to take the job extremely-seriously, and willing to bust their butt to provide great service, not sit in the galley telling everyone that they're a "safety professional" and that's as far as the job goes.
 
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Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:06 pm

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I don’t get too worked up over numbers of accidents. The numbers - even for a carrier like Eastern or Biscayne - are so low that they aren’t terribly meaningful.


Tell that to Sean Archuleta's family. See if they feel the same way about the need for merciless pilot vetting. Like what Sean had to go through to get the job he was headed for at United.
 
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Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:24 pm

wjcandee wrote:
Cubsrule wrote:
I don’t get too worked up over numbers of accidents. The numbers - even for a carrier like Eastern or Biscayne - are so low that they aren’t terribly meaningful.


Tell that to Sean Archuleta's family. See if they feel the same way about the need for merciless pilot vetting. Like what Sean had to go through to get the job he was headed for at United.


I don’t disagree with you about pilot vetting. I just don’t think number of accidents is a good datum. Is Atlas less safe than Eastern solely because they’ve had more fatalities? That’s a tough case to make.
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CRJ5000 wrote:


Very surprised they are using a 747-400 into BED - that would be a sight to see.


Due to construction and other extenuating circumstances at PVD, any teams chartering 5Y 744s will use BED or BOS this season instead of PVD. Meaning Miami this week, Baltimore Nov 15, and Arizona Nov 29. All other teams are scheduled to use PVD as usual. The 744 would definitely be a sight to see at BED.
 
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Raiders flew HA A332 LAS-CLT today. It's their first "official" team trip since moving to Vegas.


Caught it down on the cargo ramp yesterday. Waiting for the game to finish to head to the airport to try to get the departure.

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Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:34 am

Looks like Delta is leaving N866DA (B772) at TPA after returning from MSY on Sunday night. I suppose that makes sense as the Bucs play in CLT this weekend...no need to fly it back to ATL for no reason only have to fly back to TPA on Saturday. I would have never thought a major carrier could just leave a wide body sit for a week, but then again this is 2020.
 
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Re: 2020 NFL Charters

Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:02 am

n92r03 wrote:
I suppose that makes sense as the Bucs play in CLT this weekend...

The Panthers are playing in Tampa Bay this weekend, the Bucs aren't coming to CLT.
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Re: 2020 NFL Charters

Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:01 pm

Moose135 wrote:
The Panthers are playing in Tampa Bay this weekend, the Bucs aren't coming to CLT.


Apologies, I should have checked and not just assumed. Perhaps DL will keep it there until the following week when the Bucs play in Denver.
 
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Re: 2020 NFL Charters

Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:49 pm

n92r03 wrote:
Apologies, I should have checked and not just assumed. Perhaps DL will keep it there until the following week when the Bucs play in Denver.


I'm seeing that the Panthers will be flying to TPA on a Delta 777 for the game, down on Saturday afternoon and back Sunday evening.
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