The whole connecting traffic has very little economic effect. Those people do not even enter the country.
Do you believe the BS you are writing or do you just want to provoke?
Frankfurt Airport is the biggest employer in the state of Hessia besides the state/city governments. Do you really think that is just because of the O&D traffic? Of course not. So lots of jobs are relying on LH (in that case). How many employees does FR has in the region who are paying their taxes here? Not many.
The same goes for basically all major hubs in Europe.
So stating that the hub function does not have an economic effect is just plain wrong.
It will be interesting to see whether FR stays in FRA when they have to pay the same fees as every other carrier. If I remember correctly the discounted rates were granted for the first three years of every new route and FR will reach this timeline soon. Wizz has already dropped out.
Seahawk's point is that the jobs created by connecting traffic could be anywhere, why should they be in Frankfurt or Munich or Zurich?
The LH Group has over 500 daily flights going in and out of Italy, stealing Italian jobs to create more jobs in Frankfurt, Munich and Zurich.
With subsidies, they can steal even more jobs from other places.
You can see now that these subsidies could lead to a trade war within the EU.
Give me 10 Billions today, I'll start an airline with a fleet of 500 aircraft anywhere you want in Europe and drive LH out of business within 3 years and displace all the jobs to that location.
Alternatively, give me 10 billions as LH CEO and I'll run all our competitors out of business as soon as this is over and make Germany great again.
And the BiaS already shows in your screenname, most of us just want to see a fair European market with competition.
I would also like to emphasis one aspect.
If an airline gets more state aid than other airlines during bad times, you can bet that they are receiving bigger state aids in good times too.
My lady works for a government agency of a country that I won't name and the agency paid 5000 USD for a one-way ticket in economy class in low season with the country's flag carrier for a 10 hour flight. She didn't even get lounge access, an upgrade or nothing. She could have gotten the ticket for 1/5th of that amount with a competing carrier or 1/4th with the same carrier by booking it herself.
She was shocked at how the government wastes taxpayer money but I nuanced that it's just a subsidy.
Some countries are just better at cheating than others.
The coronavirus crisis only exposes how big the cheating is.
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