Opus99 wrote:BA777FO wrote:skipness1E wrote:Now it’s time for BA’s last piece of the transformation puzzle, the removal of high cost legacy cabin crew and a reduction of pilots wages.
BA pilots are some of the cheapest in the world flying for a major international carrier. The LGW A320 skippers are typically paid less than Easyjet captains. Cadet pilot pay at BA is lower than EasyJet and and Virgin. It's only after 20 years that a BA longhaul captain overtakes a Virgin captain's pay and the BA pilot has been flying 900 hours a year all that time as opposed to 750 at Virgin. I'm paid about 40-50% less than a United 777 FO with the same length of service. In fact, I'm paid about the same as a United 737 FO with 3 years service and I'm a relatively higher paid longhaul FO compared with the 1000+ new entrants we've had in the past 4 years.
There really isn't a justification for taking on pilot pay when benchmarked against elsewhere. They'll try it on, but the loss of goodwill will cost them their savings several times over, no doubt.
I think this is something that I find so crazy. How can you pay your pilots less than an LCC and even less than one of the smallest TATL competitors. Like wow. WW has to go because he has been the only constant in the past 15 years. It’s enough, I think with him out of the way maybe some sort of change can begin. Or what do you think?
What difference does it make what a UA FO earns? How many BA pilots can work in the US? IAG know what the demand and supply of pilots is currently, WW was a pilot at some stage of his career. They know there is nowhere to go for many - much like the rest of any workforce today. And as for entry level salaries being low, there are clearly plenty of people willing to take these jobs so why pay more? If U2 have to pay more to attract pilots to their brand than that is their problem.
Why would a legacy carrier have to pay their pilots more than a LCC? Are their aircraft different to fly because they have premium seats in them? Do BA short haul pilots provide a better service than U2 pilots? Maybe it's time to rethink all of our exceptionalism?