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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Fri May 15, 2020 3:13 pm

Now as for that desired 787 order... um... so what happens to the owned 77W's that were undesirable even pre-COVID (over-specked, small cargo door)???
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Sat May 16, 2020 12:44 am

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The number of jets is also oddly specific. Eight frames. Virgin currently manages daily SYD-LAX, MEL-LAX and BNE-LAX with five frames, and would need only one more frame for BNE-HND, so what's the plan for the other two? If they're for transcon then you'd only get a few flights each day per frame, allowing for SYD curfew and sensible flying times too.

So even if you had two SYD-PER and MEL-PER that's not going to really compete against QF's ability to make almost every SYD-PER and MEL-PER flight an A330 if it really wanted. And that's assuming there is demand there, although we are talking about late 2020 onwards and by then domestic demand should be back, maybe not back to normal though.


Eight aircraft signals to me they would all be used internationally.

As for domestic, prior to COVID-19 QF were running a couple of services a day (at least) on transcon from SYD and MEL with 737's, On the other hand VA was running 4 A332's on domestic in the following patterns, these patterns applied for Tuesday to Friday only

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Mondays ran as 2 SYD-PER-SYD and 2 MEL-PER-MEL with one of those returning back to PER while on the weekends typically saw no A332's on Saturdays except for peak periods and Sundays a MEL-PER-MEL-PER-MEL (the last flight being a redeye), a MEL-PER-SYD and a SYD-PER-MEL flight. While the A332's were popular with passengers they werent economical, quite often they would spend more time on the ground. I have also previously argued that 2 737's was a better alternative to 1 A332 flight. For example, a typical PER-MEL 737 flight would burn around 8000kg of fuel while an A332 around 14,000kg. Now taking into account 2 737's would carry an extra 75 passengers roughly so that favoured the 737. If you take into account the 737MAX which will have lower fuel burn you can see that the A332 on domestic was numbered.

On top of this, economy of scale also played a part, with low utilisation and high lease costs at times they didnt make a lot of sense at times. From what I saw here in PER they also seemed to be labour intensive when it came to maintenance. Now this could have just been a result of the way VA engineering was set up in PER compared to the BNE, SYD and MEL. At the 3 main ports on the east coast on top of engineers there was a dedicated team at each port that would be responsible for doing cosmetic things on aircraft such as repairing broken tray tables, lav doors, cleaning out bins etc where as PER engineers were required to do that on top of ensuring maintenance items were attended to.

Prior to when I was on ramp, I was part of fleet presentation and there were a couple of costs that I noticed that could have been avoided. Firstly HKG flights arriving in SYD that were then going on to domestic quite often left SYD without menus being changed, countless times they still arrived in PER with international menus and amenity kits in economy, retail domestic menus were no where to be seen, of course this potentially cost VA $$$ in lost revenue. Secondly was the overkill loading of J for redeye flights. According to the VA Fleet Presentation Manual all trans con flights departing after 1900 were to be loaded with the second larger white pillow and 22 duvets on top of the blankets normally supplied throughout the day. In my opinion this was over the top especially for a PER-MEL sector that could see the flight under 3 hours. Rather than providing this which J passengers received equivalent to those flying SYD-LAX it should have been more aligned with the J 737 product, the only difference being the actual seat. In my view while either of these where no big money drainers there was still a monetary value to the bottom line

Under Scurrah VA has tried to compete with QF less and try and get back to some of their roots. I think many on here have previously argued VA should find its own identity rather than compete directly with Qantas, they need to find their own niche. Since Scurrah has come on board at VA there has been a lot more positive come out than what ever did under Borghetti. Scurrah is well liked by the whole VA team whereas pretty much everyone hated Borghetti's guts. Prior to COVID-19 I felt that Scurrah was slowly starting to make some in roads. I would hope after the administration period Scurrah can stay on at VA even it was a lower position, unfortunately the person who should be held accountable for all this mess is no longer at the airline.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Sat May 16, 2020 2:20 am

VH-OEG parked in the desert in the US, looks like it could fly again

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Sat May 16, 2020 2:34 am

Here is what a 737, A320 and even an A332 would look like in REX colour's, time for a new paint job perhaps?

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Sat May 16, 2020 2:56 am

Cathay Pacific planned ops for May/June

SYD - 2 weekly A359, 5 weekly from 24 Jun 20
MEL - 4 weekly A359 from 24 Jun 20

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-10may20/
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Sat May 16, 2020 3:10 am

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Here is what a 737, A320 and even an A332 would look like in REX colour's, time for a new paint job perhaps?


It'd be the quite the sight if REX operated an A332 ! But stranger things have happened.

I remember sitting on a REX Saab 340 flight from SYD-GFF taxing to the runway and we had a QF A330 behind us, we were absolutely dwarfed !
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Sat May 16, 2020 3:58 am

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VH-OEG parked in the desert in the US, looks like it could fly again

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It can fly again as it’s only there for long term storage at this stage.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Sat May 16, 2020 4:37 am

qf789 wrote:
Here is what a 737, A320 and even an A332 would look like in REX colour's, time for a new paint job perhaps?

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actually the Rex livery looks pretty good on the 737 and A320. A bit 90's corporate perhaps but classy all the same. Doubt it will happen though.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Sat May 16, 2020 5:16 am

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actually the Rex livery looks pretty good on the 737 and A320. A bit 90's corporate perhaps but classy all the same. Doubt it will happen though.


If you want 90s corporate go look at their website. Its a journey back in time!
 
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Sat May 16, 2020 5:22 am

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actually the Rex livery looks pretty good on the 737 and A320. A bit 90's corporate perhaps but classy all the same. Doubt it will happen though.


If you want 90s corporate go look at their website. Its a journey back in time!


I would presume they would rebrand if they were to launch capital city services... maybe stick with the REX name but drop the use of "Regional Express" particularly on the jet aircraft...
 
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Sat May 16, 2020 6:26 am

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actually the Rex livery looks pretty good on the 737 and A320. A bit 90's corporate perhaps but classy all the same. Doubt it will happen though.


If you want 90s corporate go look at their website. Its a journey back in time!


haha I just did and oh boy are you right! :-)
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Sat May 16, 2020 9:17 am

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I would hope after the administration period Scurrah can stay on at VA even it was a lower position, unfortunately the person who should be held accountable for all this mess is no longer at the airline.


I think someone mentioned this briefly either here or in the VA thread in passing, what is the likelihood that the administrators will be looking for any sign that the previous CEO mismanaged the company? Is that something in their brief, will new owners do anything about that, current leadership or do we just move on?
 
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Sat May 16, 2020 9:30 am

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I think someone mentioned this briefly either here or in the VA thread in passing, what is the likelihood that the administrators will be looking for any sign that the previous CEO mismanaged the company? Is that something in their brief, will new owners do anything about that, current leadership or do we just move on?


Not in the brief at all. The administration is trying to find a buyer for this business, how the company was being run previously is irrelevant. If the company was in liquidation, there may be creditors who might want to investigate the possibility that the company may have been trading whilst insolvent, but no creditors to date have made this claim (despite certain posters here saying the there are plenty of signs "suggesting" this may have been the case despite having no insight into the detailed financials of the company).
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Sat May 16, 2020 10:00 am

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I would presume they would rebrand if they were to launch capital city services... maybe stick with the REX name but drop the use of "Regional Express" particularly on the jet aircraft...


I quite like the sound of "RexJet"
 
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Sat May 16, 2020 11:45 am

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Qantas16 wrote:
I would presume they would rebrand if they were to launch capital city services... maybe stick with the REX name but drop the use of "Regional Express" particularly on the jet aircraft...


I quite like the sound of "RexJet"


Nah sounds: Tacky, Like: EasyJet and Jetstar etc.
 
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Sat May 16, 2020 12:12 pm

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Here is what a 737, A320 and even an A332 would look like in REX colour's, time for a new paint job perhaps?

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REALLY like the 738 design! Looks very nice in the REX livery especially the winglet
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Sat May 16, 2020 2:10 pm

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I would presume they would rebrand if they were to launch capital city services... maybe stick with the REX name but drop the use of "Regional Express" particularly on the jet aircraft...


I quite like the sound of "RexJet"


No no please no, it sounds like those stupid names that seem to be in vouge in the early 2000s' with these LCC's Ted, Song, BMI Baby, even today with Scoot. If this does happen, and Rex dose get jets then re brand it give it a professional name, a name and livery that says " we are an airline of Australia and we have a great product".
 
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Sat May 16, 2020 3:07 pm

Reminds me of the 80’s commercial

Antz Pantz - Backpacker (sic 'em, Rex!)

https://youtu.be/4Ac9XE2Koxg

I don’t mind Rex, but a refresh is well overdue.


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Sat May 16, 2020 9:35 pm

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I would hope after the administration period Scurrah can stay on at VA even it was a lower position, unfortunately the person who should be held accountable for all this mess is no longer at the airline.

The fact that they aren't at said airline anymore means they were held accountable. Find them in the Jobseeker queue :duck:
 
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Sun May 17, 2020 12:18 am

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The fact that they aren't at said airline anymore means they were held accountable. Find them in the Jobseeker queue :duck:


JB won't be needing welfare anytime soon, he got paid handsomely for his time at both QF and VA, so JB is probably cruising around in his vintage cars looking sharp in his finely tailored suits !
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Sun May 17, 2020 1:34 am

JQ321 wrote:
angusjt wrote:
Qantas16 wrote:
I would presume they would rebrand if they were to launch capital city services... maybe stick with the REX name but drop the use of "Regional Express" particularly on the jet aircraft...


I quite like the sound of "RexJet"


Nah sounds: Tacky, Like: EasyJet and Jetstar etc.


If you have a look at their "90's" web site in the bottom right corner they already have the name REXJET as part of their group of airlines. I think it's a charter division.
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Sun May 17, 2020 7:13 am

Is this a confirmed plan of Rex’s or simply speculation of what they could do?

qf2048 wrote:
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angusjt wrote:

I quite like the sound of "RexJet"


Nah sounds: Tacky, Like: EasyJet and Jetstar etc.


If you have a look at their "90's" web site in the bottom right corner they already have the name REXJET as part of their group of airlines. I think it's a charter division.


Hopefully they also keep away from red as a key branding theme, stick to blue perhaps? I think a hybrid carrier like B6 has a place in AU, with a small trans-con presence. But they have a hella lot of work to do. But timing is everything. I wish them good luck!
 
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The fact that they aren't at said airline anymore means they were held accountable. Find them in the Jobseeker queue :duck:


JB won't be needing welfare anytime soon, he got paid handsomely for his time at both QF and VA, so JB is probably cruising around in his vintage cars looking sharp in his finely tailored suits !


In between cruising around in his vintage car fleet, JB picked up a gig on the BNE Airport Board. I wonder if there's any pressure on him to resign lol
 
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Sun May 17, 2020 7:39 am

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Hopefully they also keep away from red as a key branding theme, stick to blue perhaps? I think a hybrid carrier like B6 has a place in AU, with a small trans-con presence. But they have a hella lot of work to do. But timing is everything. I wish them good luck!


If they plan to grow into a full-blown network carrier then I'd love to see something like orange/green/blue to represent the connecting of desert/bush/sea. Maybe big TAP style overlapping titles behind the wings with smaller titles up front.
 
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Sun May 17, 2020 7:55 am

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Being reported via ET that Delta may be poised to place the A350 on the LAX-SYD-LAX route once restrictions start to subside. Limited services are currently set for June, although this may likely change.

Personal Speculation/Scenario: Based on the scenario that the DL/VA JV remains in a post-administration (COVID) world, it may make a case for the 4x owned VA 77Ws to operate BNE/MEL-LAX, with BNE-HND on the 5th 77W. This leaves SYD-LAX to DL, whilst enabling the return of the VA A330s to the lessors.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... es-flights


Given our internal borders are unlikely to be relaxed until July I think a June resumption is optimistic at best given its 2 weeks away.


International borders would only be relaxed at the end of July or start of August because the government's three step plan which started last week takes three weeks to get through each step and international travel is the last step.
 
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Sun May 17, 2020 6:09 pm

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anstar wrote:
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Being reported via ET that Delta may be poised to place the A350 on the LAX-SYD-LAX route once restrictions start to subside. Limited services are currently set for June, although this may likely change.

Personal Speculation/Scenario: Based on the scenario that the DL/VA JV remains in a post-administration (COVID) world, it may make a case for the 4x owned VA 77Ws to operate BNE/MEL-LAX, with BNE-HND on the 5th 77W. This leaves SYD-LAX to DL, whilst enabling the return of the VA A330s to the lessors.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... es-flights


Given our internal borders are unlikely to be relaxed until July I think a June resumption is optimistic at best given its 2 weeks away.


International borders would only be relaxed at the end of July or start of August because the government's three step plan which started last week takes three weeks to get through each step and international travel is the last step.


Very optimistic. Many are saying that the international borders wont be re-opening until 2021 in Australia.

NZ is a possibility earlier than that depending on what they do with their international borders.

Many parts of Australia have wiped out the virus and there is no appetite to undo that good work by prematurely opening the borders.

The world is a changed place. Free and open movement of people over borders is a thing of the past until a vaccine is found.
 
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Sun May 17, 2020 7:42 pm

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International borders would only be relaxed at the end of July or start of August because the government's three step plan which started last week takes three weeks to get through each step and international travel is the last step.

Nice try... Step 3 (July if all goes well) only hints at a Trans Tasman and Pacific bubble. Wider International won't come back anytime soon.
 
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Sun May 17, 2020 11:46 pm

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Early in the shutdown QF shrank to an active domestic fleet of just 1x330, 1x737 and 1xQ400.

What is their active fleet at the moment? And International?


I think that us a wrong interpretation of what Alan Joyce said. That fleet is all that QF was operating between Sydney and Melbourne, that specific route only. It was during a conversation about Virgin, after they announced they were stopping all flying except 1 Sydney-Melbourne service 6 days a week.
Even before the Government Minimum network began, QF was still operating around 25% of it 737 fleet.


Yet at this moment there is 1 QFA domestic flight in the whole country showing on FR24. ??
 
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Mon May 18, 2020 12:59 am

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Aviator34ID wrote:
Early in the shutdown QF shrank to an active domestic fleet of just 1x330, 1x737 and 1xQ400.

What is their active fleet at the moment? And International?


I think that us a wrong interpretation of what Alan Joyce said. That fleet is all that QF was operating between Sydney and Melbourne, that specific route only. It was during a conversation about Virgin, after they announced they were stopping all flying except 1 Sydney-Melbourne service 6 days a week.
Even before the Government Minimum network began, QF was still operating around 25% of it 737 fleet.


Yet at this moment there is 1 QFA domestic flight in the whole country showing on FR24. ??

Is it really surprising?

Planes don't have to fly every day to be kept active. They can also fly at different times of the day and no law specific them to fly all at the same time. A plane can fly anywhere between 1 and 10 segments a day so if they schedule perfectly they can let a plane fly 6-8 flights and you'll still see only one plane on FR24.

As of right now we have seven planes airborne for QFA domestic flights - 1x 738, 2x A333 and 4x D84.

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Mon May 18, 2020 1:35 am

Virgin's administrators have confirmed the short list of 4 potential buyers

BGH Capital
Bain Capital
Cyrus Capital Partners
Indigo Partners

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN22U023
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Mon May 18, 2020 1:42 am

Would administrators usually divulge who has put in a bid? I'd think there should be some kind of confidentiality clause prohibiting that kind of information being leaked.
 
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Would administrators usually divulge who has put in a bid? I'd think there should be some kind of confidentiality clause prohibiting that kind of information being leaked.

I do believe there'll be some clauses for it and hence the annoymous source cited in Reuters' article.

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You never know but have to wonder if Brookfield are serious bidders. Almost as wacky as QIC bidding for the airline.

Indian investors will be looking for a low price and goverment support. Maybe hoping to win by being the last bidder remaining.

So its probably down to 2 serious bidders plus a wildcard. This is looking like its Temasek's to lose.


Shortlist is out.

Brookfields are out of the process.

The Indian consortium also did not lodge a bid and are out of the process.

Shortlist is:
Bain Capital
BGH Capital (including Temasek)
Indigo Partners (US)
Cyrus Capital Partners (US)

Under these bidders, there will be other parties who are part of the consortium. QIC has missed out so far but will probably be seeking to join in with one of the other bidders.
 
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Mon May 18, 2020 2:04 am

Qantas has had a court ruling in its favour after a group of workers took the airline to court over denying them sick leave during the current Coronavirus crisis. The TWU plans to appeal the decision

https://australianaviation.com.au/2020/ ... -employee/
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Mon May 18, 2020 2:13 am

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Would administrators usually divulge who has put in a bid? I'd think there should be some kind of confidentiality clause prohibiting that kind of information being leaked.

I do believe there'll be some clauses for it and hence the annoymous source cited in Reuters' article.

Michael

Which also means that the information the source has provided may not be 100% factual. I guess we will know in a few days what the actual outcome was.
 
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Mon May 18, 2020 2:15 am

ADL Airport reports 96.5% decline in passenger numbers for April 2020

Domestic down 97.9%
International down 99.2%
Regional down 74%

https://blueswandaily.com/adelaide-airp ... -apr-2020/
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Mon May 18, 2020 2:17 am

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International borders would only be relaxed at the end of July or start of August because the government's three step plan which started last week takes three weeks to get through each step and international travel is the last step.

Nice try... Step 3 (July if all goes well) only hints at a Trans Tasman and Pacific bubble. Wider International won't come back anytime soon.


I’d say we’ll see Pacific islands follow shortly after NZ, I believe Fiji was lobbying to be included from the outset. Not to mention the political element of a pacific bubble with AU influence replacing Chinese in the PI. I could also see a small shift away from Bali to the pacific if cheap enough, and Indonesia takes long enough to open up. I wonder if Cook island government would consider adding a second SYD-RAR on NZ, once weekly is just a little too infrequent for shorter trips.

Next to add would by Taiwan and South Korea... then country be country for years after.
 
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Mon May 18, 2020 2:19 am

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You never know but have to wonder if Brookfield are serious bidders. Almost as wacky as QIC bidding for the airline.

Indian investors will be looking for a low price and goverment support. Maybe hoping to win by being the last bidder remaining.

So its probably down to 2 serious bidders plus a wildcard. This is looking like its Temasek's to lose.


Shortlist is out.

Brookfields are out of the process.

The Indian consortium also did not lodge a bid and are out of the process.

Shortlist is:
Bain Capital
BGH Capital (including Temasek)
Indigo Partners (US)
Cyrus Capital Partners (US)

Under these bidders, there will be other parties who are part of the consortium. QIC has missed out so far but will probably be seeking to join in with one of the other bidders.

Brookfield withdrew their bid because they only wanted 2 bidders into the next stage. The Indian consortium reportedly lodged a bid without a $ figure. Both parties appear to have been playing a game of brinksmanship where they hoped other bidders would no-bid so they could acquire for very low dollars. It is unlikely they will rejoin via a remaining consortium though the TWU and by inference, TWU Super, may now seek to tie-up with a remaining consortium; it was part of the Brookfield bid.

As expected, QIC did not bid in its own right and will now try to join a remaining consortium providing it agrees to keep the VA HQ in Brisbane though $200M remains fairly small biscuits in the whole context of the bid. It is also possible other parties such as NSW Govt or Twiggy Forrest will now join one of the remaining consortia.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Mon May 18, 2020 2:21 am

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Would administrators usually divulge who has put in a bid? I'd think there should be some kind of confidentiality clause prohibiting that kind of information being leaked.


All the listed bidders are deal makers managing other peoples funds so they would be happy to have their name out in the public domain as a "deal maker". Good company PR and it will attract phone calls from other investors who may wish to join their bid.

But you never know - there could be a fifth bidder who is confidential.

Underneath the listed bidders, there would be confidential parties.

The source of this information may be from one of the bidders and not the administrator. One of the important tasks of each bidder is to work out who they are bidding against and there are many ways of working this out.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Mon May 18, 2020 2:37 am

eamondzhang wrote:
Aviator34ID wrote:
Whatsaptudo wrote:

I think that us a wrong interpretation of what Alan Joyce said. That fleet is all that QF was operating between Sydney and Melbourne, that specific route only. It was during a conversation about Virgin, after they announced they were stopping all flying except 1 Sydney-Melbourne service 6 days a week.
Even before the Government Minimum network began, QF was still operating around 25% of it 737 fleet.


Yet at this moment there is 1 QFA domestic flight in the whole country showing on FR24. ??

Is it really surprising?

Planes don't have to fly every day to be kept active. They can also fly at different times of the day and no law specific them to fly all at the same time. A plane can fly anywhere between 1 and 10 segments a day so if they schedule perfectly they can let a plane fly 6-8 flights and you'll still see only one plane on FR24.

As of right now we have seven planes airborne for QFA domestic flights - 1x 738, 2x A333 and 4x D84.

Michael

I see planespotters too say that 16 x 738 are "in service". I guess my point was that on any pre-Covid day FR24 would be awash with 738s in the air, not just "in service". Anyway, not worth arguing about.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Mon May 18, 2020 4:22 am

Aviator34ID wrote:
eamondzhang wrote:
Aviator34ID wrote:

Yet at this moment there is 1 QFA domestic flight in the whole country showing on FR24. ??

Is it really surprising?

Planes don't have to fly every day to be kept active. They can also fly at different times of the day and no law specific them to fly all at the same time. A plane can fly anywhere between 1 and 10 segments a day so if they schedule perfectly they can let a plane fly 6-8 flights and you'll still see only one plane on FR24.

As of right now we have seven planes airborne for QFA domestic flights - 1x 738, 2x A333 and 4x D84.

Michael

I see planespotters too say that 16 x 738 are "in service". I guess my point was that on any pre-Covid day FR24 would be awash with 738s in the air, not just "in service". Anyway, not worth arguing about.

I know right, but this is the new norm we're having. A bunch of A333s are literally flying every day carrying cargo all around the country, while the rest of the fleet mothballed in one way or another.

I guess only when all state borders reopen then you'll see a whole bunch of 737s back in the air sooner.

Michael
 
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Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Mon May 18, 2020 4:27 am

QF B744 ‘Hervey Bay' VHOEH is scheduled to depart tomorrow morning 09:30 SYDLAX & then off to MHV at a later date.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Mon May 18, 2020 4:53 am

qf2220 wrote:
a36001 wrote:
actually the Rex livery looks pretty good on the 737 and A320. A bit 90's corporate perhaps but classy all the same. Doubt it will happen though.


If you want 90s corporate go look at their website. Its a journey back in time!


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Mon May 18, 2020 7:52 am

brucetiki wrote:
qf2220 wrote:
a36001 wrote:
actually the Rex livery looks pretty good on the 737 and A320. A bit 90's corporate perhaps but classy all the same. Doubt it will happen though.


If you want 90s corporate go look at their website. Its a journey back in time!


Who’d they use to build that - Geocities :D


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Tue May 19, 2020 12:47 am

Velocity7 wrote:
brucetiki wrote:
qf2220 wrote:

If you want 90s corporate go look at their website. Its a journey back in time!


Who’d they use to build that - Geocities :D


And optimised for use with AltaVista! Do you think they could fit just a few more tiles on there somewhere? :lol:
Makes Airliners.net look modern! :white:


I think it also works well with askjeeves. And there is probably a Myspace link hidden somewhere there too ;)
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Tue May 19, 2020 3:43 am

I hear that QF are hoping to start ramping up domestic capacity by mid-June, i'm sure that will be dependent on the states of QLD, SA, WA, NT & Tas opening their borders.

Also, IMHO I hope that the Virgin name disappears and whatever grows from the administration is something new. Just my opinion!

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Tue May 19, 2020 4:06 am

As an avgeek (that's why we're on here), and a traveller, and for people's livelihood and the economy, I am hoping this is true. Baby steps will get things moving again. East coast capitals. Some regional routes. Then open up to the west. The NZ bubble. Pacific Islands. Vietnam and Taiwan. Keep growing when it is safe, practical and economical to do so.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Tue May 19, 2020 4:20 am

I do believe there's currently no restrictions between VIC, ACT and NSW if someone wants to travel between these three states/territories though?

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Tue May 19, 2020 4:47 am

I hear that QF are hoping to start ramping up domestic capacity by mid-June, i'm sure that will be dependent on the states of QLD, SA, WA, NT & Tas opening their borders.

Unless the state governments, particularly Qld and WA, change their minds, June seems a bit optimistic. Obviously QF/JQ would like to capitalise on school holiday traffic at the end of June so you can understand why they are looking at mid-June as their preferred ramp-up date.
I do believe there's currently no restrictions between VIC, ACT and NSW if someone wants to travel between these three states/territories though?

Yes but in winter the high-volume school holiday traffic is to Qld and, to a lesser extent, north-west WA and NT. It will be interesting to see if the airlines concentrate on places such as Ballina or Coffs Harbour more than usual given these places are worthwhile, albeit not super-warm, alternatives to Qld for sunseeking Melbournians.
I hope that the Virgin name disappears and whatever grows from the administration is something new.

It will obviously depend on the winning consortium but, even if SRB is not involved in winning consortium, it is possible a reduced fee will be negotiated so they can keep the name in the short to medium term. A full rebrand including launching a new name is an expensive exercise probably running into the tens of millions of dollars once advertising, repainting etc is considered. I doubt anyone would be keen to spend these sort of dollars on day one.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2020

Tue May 19, 2020 5:51 am

Fiji Airways is planning on doing a repatriation flight to SYD this Friday

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