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What to do on entering Ireland from abroad:

The Irish Health Authorities require anyone coming into Ireland, apart from Northern Ireland, to self-isolate for 14 days, upon arrival, and to complete a Public Health Passenger Locator Form to this effect. Check the Irish Health Service COVID-19 Advice Page for full information on these requirements. This includes Irish residents. Exemptions are in place for providers of essential supply chain services such as hauliers, pilots and maritime staff.

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Bombardier: Firefighters tackle 'significant' blaze at Belfast docks

Fifty firefighters have been tackling a "significant fire" at the Bombardier factory in the docks area of Belfast.

The Northern Ireland Fire and Rescue Service (NIFRS) received a call at about 20:45 BST to attend the blaze on Airport Road in the east of the city.

The extent of the damage to the factory unit is not yet known, but there are no injuries.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-northern-ireland-52793539
 
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Mon May 25, 2020 3:26 pm

Regarding the Cityjet news, aside from 700 job cuts, the Avro's retirement is also mentioned. Not surprising, but where does that leave the DUB-LCY route? I guess it already was an IAG monopoly, but will it only be BA Cityflyer then?

Was scheduled to fly on one a week ago but now very sad that my first ever Avro flight will be a lot more complicated and likely expensive to plan now.
 
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Mon May 25, 2020 5:48 pm

G-FLBA, the one leased Flybe Q400 at BHD flew out to Maastricht today, with 2 local pilots and leasing reps onboard. The 6 remaining frames are all "Flybe owned" and remain parked on the old cross runway.
 
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Mon May 25, 2020 5:55 pm

EI564 wrote:
Fliplot wrote:
My point on infrastructure costs remains valid - Ireland is not capable of large "state" infrastructure projects! Whether it be politics, procurement or simple incomoetence the projects always over run and by multiples!

I know T2 wasn't cheap but did it overrun? While there has been project failures in Ireland, i'm not sure are we as bad as we think. Even Germany gets it wrong occasionally.

And the new runway project seems to be moving along fine.

I don't mind new restrictions on travel into the country, as long as it is temporary. We certainly should know where people are staying from a contact tracing point of view. But if progress continues, then restrictions should be lifted. Right now, most countries in Europe have restrictions but a lot of them are looking at relaxing them over the next few weeks. We shouldn't be much different (if things continue to improve here).


I would say having lived in both Germany and Ireland and working with people from both countries extensively that certain elements of society here have a very strong "sure that'll do" attitude especially when it comes to infrastructure projects and there is a distinct lack of imagination and urgency to get it done. In many cases reasons upon reasons as to why things can't be done are listed rather than ways in which things can be done. I'm not sure whether its fear of taking risk or other aspects but this can be seen over and over again. Examples include the lack of an M20 motorway, lack of a Galway bypass (both of which have been talked about for years).

Whilst T2 is certainly a wonderful terminal to use, the limitations especially surrounding the number of gates became clear very quickly and the need for Aer Lingus to still use gates at T1 extensively shows this. Instead of creating a long-term plan which involved a future-proof T2 being built between the 2 parallel runways, this design was chosen which reached its limits very quickly. T1 is becoming very busy at peak times (pre COVID obviously) and even T2 has been quite busy so what options are the DAA left with now? The DAA masterplan document which has been posted in one of the recent Irish threads before (I can't remember which one) shows additional piers extending out of the current terminals but for how long will this really be sufficient? It is very important that we avoid a scenario where we build these piers and again have the same issues that T2 is facing right now i.e. they cannot be expanded or added to or else this expansion is very difficult.

Having said all that COVID has thrown a spanner in the works and we still don't know how long capacity will take to recover to 2019 levels but it should be remembered that this issue with T2 has been plaguing the airport for several years now and that something will probably have to be done soon even when the COVID drop in traffic is taken into account.
 
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Mon May 25, 2020 8:32 pm

YUAND you make some very good points regarding infrastructure and a “shure twill do” attitude. It is worth remembering that when T2 was being built, it was being ridiculed as being too big and was called a white elephant by a certain airline CEO. I remember that Christoph Muller wanted to overnight Aer Lingus aircraft to overnight away from Dublin in order to get the DubHub concept up and running. Apparently there were disagreements about it and the then COO shot down the plans. The result was the congestion in the airport in the mornings
 
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Mon May 25, 2020 8:52 pm

The whole travel experience will be as enjoyable as open-heart surgery'
Plexiglass, face masks and long, long lines are likely to be a feature of flights and airports once travel resumes...

For as long as most of us can remember, air travel hasn't been a whole lot of fun.
As airlines crawl out of virus-lockdown mode, passengers can expect it to be even more of a bummer, with new temperature check points, lines of distancing people stretching into the parking lot, and plexiglass barriers isolating baggage clerks, baristas, and other staffers.

Face masks and gloves will be de rigueur, disinfectants will be everywhere, and even though many processes will be automated to minimise human interaction, industry officials predict travel times will have to increase to accommodate the hygiene-inspired precautions.

"Going through an airport, the whole travel experience, will be as enjoyable as open-heart surgery," says Paul Griffiths, chief executive officer of Dubai Airports, whose workers wear disposable gowns and safety visors that wouldn't look out of place in a Covid-19 ward.

www.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-n ... 17210.html
 
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Tue May 26, 2020 1:18 pm

Air India currently on the ground at DUB


An Air India Boeing 787 currently on stand at Dublin Airport, for a repatriation flight to Delhi later tonight.

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Wed May 27, 2020 5:05 pm

EI suspends SNN-LHR until September and temporarily laying off some SNN staff (from June 21?).
http://www.clare.fm/news/aer-lingus-lay ... non-staff/
http://clareherald.com/2020/05/aer-ling ... non-11011/
 
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Wed May 27, 2020 7:57 pm

IrishTexan wrote:
EI suspends SNN-LHR until September and temporarily laying off some SNN staff (from June 21?).
http://www.clare.fm/news/aer-lingus-lay ... non-staff/
http://clareherald.com/2020/05/aer-ling ... non-11011/

All EI ops at SNN suspended until then by the looks of it.

"It will also require cabin crew to engage in "marshalling" of passengers when they land in Dublin, saying this will create efficiencies in ground allocation of work and generate an overall saving." In lay man's terms, what exactly does this entail?

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0 ... ngus-jobs/
 
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Wed May 27, 2020 8:03 pm

AmricanShamrok wrote:
IrishTexan wrote:
EI suspends SNN-LHR until September and temporarily laying off some SNN staff (from June 21?).
http://www.clare.fm/news/aer-lingus-lay ... non-staff/
http://clareherald.com/2020/05/aer-ling ... non-11011/

All EI ops at SNN suspended until then by the looks of it.

"It will also require cabin crew to engage in "marshalling" of passengers when they land in Dublin, saying this will create efficiencies in ground allocation of work and generate an overall saving." In lay man's terms, what exactly does this entail?

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0 ... ngus-jobs/


Sounds very much like duties carried out usually by boarding gate staff and meet and greet staff. Very sad times for all involved especially as the outlook is negative. SNN-LHR big blow its like history repeating itself!
 
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Aer Lingus cancels contract with Cityjet

Aer Lingus has cancelled its contract with Cityjet which had been providing flights on Aer Lingus' behalf on a number of routes, including between Dublin and London City Airports.

The move represents another blow for Cityjet as it attempts to restructure its business for the future through an examinership process.

"The impact of Covid-19 on the airline industry, including the closure of London City Airport, and the uncertainty of its duration has regrettably required Aer Lingus to terminate its wetlease agreement with CityJet and cease operations for the foreseeable future on the Dublin London City route," the airline said in a statement.


www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0527/1143 ... h-cityjet/
 
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Wed May 27, 2020 10:00 pm

AmricanShamrok wrote:
IrishTexan wrote:
EI suspends SNN-LHR until September and temporarily laying off some SNN staff (from June 21?).
http://www.clare.fm/news/aer-lingus-lay ... non-staff/
http://clareherald.com/2020/05/aer-ling ... non-11011/

All EI ops at SNN suspended until then by the looks of it.

"It will also require cabin crew to engage in "marshalling" of passengers when they land in Dublin, saying this will create efficiencies in ground allocation of work and generate an overall saving." In lay man's terms, what exactly does this entail?

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0 ... ngus-jobs/


That sounds like that old FR practice where one of the cabin crew gets off the airplane during the turnaround and acts as a gate agent for the boarding process before rejoining the departing flight as a flight attendant . Savings equal to one gate agent at each gate . Oh how the tables have turned to see EI using old FR practices .

Regarding Shannon , if EI ever wanted to dump SNN nows their time . I’d imagine they’ll expect massive financial packages to reopen flights from SNN . And to be honest it’s often easier and cheaper for people in Galway ( for example ) to use DUB even though SNN is closer . The ground connections at SNN are poor
 
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Wed May 27, 2020 11:32 pm

Galwayman wrote:
AmricanShamrok wrote:
IrishTexan wrote:
EI suspends SNN-LHR until September and temporarily laying off some SNN staff (from June 21?).
http://www.clare.fm/news/aer-lingus-lay ... non-staff/
http://clareherald.com/2020/05/aer-ling ... non-11011/

All EI ops at SNN suspended until then by the looks of it.

"It will also require cabin crew to engage in "marshalling" of passengers when they land in Dublin, saying this will create efficiencies in ground allocation of work and generate an overall saving." In lay man's terms, what exactly does this entail?

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0 ... ngus-jobs/


That sounds like that old FR practice where one of the cabin crew gets off the airplane during the turnaround and acts as a gate agent for the boarding process before rejoining the departing flight as a flight attendant . Savings equal to one gate agent at each gate . Oh how the tables have turned to see EI using old FR practices .

Regarding Shannon , if EI ever wanted to dump SNN nows their time . I’d imagine they’ll expect massive financial packages to reopen flights from SNN . And to be honest it’s often easier and cheaper for people in Galway ( for example ) to use DUB even though SNN is closer . The ground connections at SNN are poor


Don't think EI wanted to dump SNN up to this point as prior to all this they had expanded services this year with the addition of Barcelona, Paris and the NEO doing LHR first run in the morning adding additional capacity . We are in uncharted territory but will they give up the business when traffic levels return to another carrier. Lot of people from Galway who regularly use SNN would care to disagree on ease of use.
 
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Mandatory passenger locator form comes into effect from today

From today, it will be mandatory for all passengers coming into Ireland to fill out a passenger locator form.

Anyone entering the country from abroad must provide details of where they intend to stay for the following 14 days, and they will be asked to self-isolate at that location.

Some exemptions include transport workers involved in supply chains, and those crossing the border from Northern Ireland.

Those who arrive in the Republic of Ireland and travel immediately onwards to the North will only have to fill out their name and signature on the form.

www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0528/1 ... ator-form/



Stobart selling Aer Lingus seats - but quiet on staffing

Stobart Air, which operates the Aer Lingus Regional service, is selling seats for flights across its network starting on July 1 - but can't confirm whether all its staff will be working to operate the services.

Stobart Air has uploaded a bumper schedule to the Aer Lingus website, with flights now bookable on routes from Dublin and Cork to destinations across the UK.

But the Dublin-based carrier hasn't said if the remainder of its roughly 450 staff will be back at work to run the flights.

https://amp.independent.ie/business/iri ... 39411.html
 
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Thu May 28, 2020 8:20 am

I wonder what it is that makes it so difficult for EI and other 'legacy' carriers to make SNN work. Obviously now there is the COVID crisis but even before, their presence there isn't that great when compared to ORK. I used to live pretty close to SNN and the offering from the airport (not only on EI might I add) is pretty poor and bare in mind, getting from the west to DUB for a 6am flight makes for a pretty unpleasant journey with leaving the house as early as 1am involved. So this begs the question, why with a market there that could use SNN (not the largest one in the world it must be admitted) and not a whole heck of a lot of competition can carriers not make flights to hubs from SNN work? At ORK for example, you have KL,AF,LX,I2 (seasonal) and connections on EI to AMS, CDG amongst others. SNN has EI to LHR and then EI,LH (seasonal). I would love to hear from those who know more about the following issues (or others too) that have prevented Shannon from being better connected:

-Management: Have they been actively stimulating traffic over the past few years and coming up with good schemes and plans to increase throughput?
-Market: Is the market really that small and low-yielding that it cannot support almost any service at all to major hubs?
-Practicality: From my own personal experience, the airport is very impractical to use because of poor ground connections especially in early hours when a good few flights would land or take off. Besides Galway and Limerick cities and towns along that bus route from Galway to Limerick, there are virtually no public transport connections to anywhere in SNN's catchment area. However the airport is very convenient to use if travelling by car since it is much closer than DUB.
 
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Thu May 28, 2020 8:37 am

I think its really down to supply and demand from SNN to be honest there's been quite a few attempts at routes over the years mainly by Ryanair + Aer Lingus but they or most of the routes have never lasted too long. Dublin has a larger population+ passengers from NI and also have the added benefit of the secondary hub option on flights from UK/Europe tot he USA. In saying that SNN should be able to sustain flights to core routes such as London Amsterdam Paris along with the USA routes. Hopefully post Covid-19 SNN can get into growth mode again.
 
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Thu May 28, 2020 8:39 am

I think SNN is a fantastic airport . But people in Galway have essentially 3 airport choices - Knock, SNN and Dublin . Which is excellent really . But for public transport connections , price , choice , DUB is hard to beat .
 
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Thu May 28, 2020 9:22 am

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In saying that SNN should be able to sustain flights to core routes such as London Amsterdam Paris along with the USA routes. Hopefully post Covid-19 SNN can get into growth mode again.


SNN has never sustained flights to PAR or AMS. Off the top of my head FR have operated BVA, WX have operated CDG as an AF franchise and neither worked out. I don't think EI have operated AMS in recent times, Skynet were the last to operate SNN-AMS (and onward to Moscow) as far as I can see.

SNN-LHR, BOS and JFK are the backbone of SNN, other routes come and go with regularity. Various explanations are given each time, but the reality is that the volume and yield just aren't there. ORK (and Belfast) suffers with a lot of the same issues, especially since improved ground transport have made coaches and car transport more attractive. Better fares, higher frequency and more convenient airports are almost always available from DUB compared to SNN or ORK.
 
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Thu May 28, 2020 9:37 am

Galwayman wrote:
AmricanShamrok wrote:
IrishTexan wrote:
EI suspends SNN-LHR until September and temporarily laying off some SNN staff (from June 21?).
http://www.clare.fm/news/aer-lingus-lay ... non-staff/
http://clareherald.com/2020/05/aer-ling ... non-11011/

All EI ops at SNN suspended until then by the looks of it.

"It will also require cabin crew to engage in "marshalling" of passengers when they land in Dublin, saying this will create efficiencies in ground allocation of work and generate an overall saving." In lay man's terms, what exactly does this entail?

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0 ... ngus-jobs/


That sounds like that old FR practice where one of the cabin crew gets off the airplane during the turnaround and acts as a gate agent for the boarding process before rejoining the departing flight as a flight attendant . Savings equal to one gate agent at each gate . Oh how the tables have turned to see EI using old FR practices .

Regarding Shannon , if EI ever wanted to dump SNN nows their time . I’d imagine they’ll expect massive financial packages to reopen flights from SNN . And to be honest it’s often easier and cheaper for people in Galway ( for example ) to use DUB even though SNN is closer . The ground connections at SNN are poor

Even if EI wanted to dump SNN, they are required to operate SNN-LHR for another two years under the terms of the sale of the government's stake of EI to IAG in 2015.

Agree that public transport between SNN and the wider catchment is poor and needs to be improved to increase demand and claw back DUB-bound passengers. I also think Shannon Group needs to be thinking outside the box in stimulating demand and marketing in general. I was thinking if they set up a wholly owned subsidiary focused on selling and aggressively marketing flights/holidays to destinations served directly from SNN as well as one-stop codeshare/interline connections via the UK/US to compete with DUB and pushing the convenience of this option instead. In my own experience, using SNN and connecting to places like YVR/DXB/HKG etc. takes around the same end-to-end time as driving/getting the bus from Limerick to Dublin and taking a direct flight. The overall cost is often competitive too. I don't think many other intending passengers from this area consider this as an option.
 
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Thu May 28, 2020 10:29 am

Report from a friend came in that the An-225 is due to come to Shannon next Friday, June 5th! Let's see if it's true! I was there for the last visit back in 2013, unforgettable!
 
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Thu May 28, 2020 2:26 pm

I'm getting very positive vibes and there seems to be a general feeling of things starting up again; many airlines are aiming for a 15 June start up, Stobart (as stated above) 1 July and EI looking to start t/a service to BOS/ORD/JFK within the same period. There is an expectation that our quarantine plan will be brought to an end, by EU direction. How accurate that is remains to be seen.

To think that barely three weeks ago, we were being told that there'd be no foreign travel for the rest of 2020!
 
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Thu May 28, 2020 5:00 pm

kaitak wrote:
I'm getting very positive vibes and there seems to be a general feeling of things starting up again; many airlines are aiming for a 15 June start up, Stobart (as stated above) 1 July and EI looking to start t/a service to BOS/ORD/JFK within the same period. There is an expectation that our quarantine plan will be brought to an end, by EU direction. How accurate that is remains to be seen.

To think that barely three weeks ago, we were being told that there'd be no foreign travel for the rest of 2020!

EI has maintained a skeleton schedule on DUB-USA with JFK/BOS/ORD all being operated close to daily since the pandemic began.

I hope you're right about a mid-summer restart in general. Having analysed the risk, I personally would be fine with getting on a plane as things stand (although I understand others will have different outlooks and health issues which may deter).
 
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Thu May 28, 2020 5:51 pm

AmricanShamrok wrote:
kaitak wrote:
I'm getting very positive vibes and there seems to be a general feeling of things starting up again; many airlines are aiming for a 15 June start up, Stobart (as stated above) 1 July and EI looking to start t/a service to BOS/ORD/JFK within the same period. There is an expectation that our quarantine plan will be brought to an end, by EU direction. How accurate that is remains to be seen.

To think that barely three weeks ago, we were being told that there'd be no foreign travel for the rest of 2020!

EI has maintained a skeleton schedule on DUB-USA with JFK/BOS/ORD all being operated close to daily since the pandemic began.

I hope you're right about a mid-summer restart in general. Having analysed the risk, I personally would be fine with getting on a plane as things stand (although I understand others will have different outlooks and health issues which may deter).


Fully agree. I’ve bookings for early Aug & late Sept and I’m 100% ready to go. The only thing stopping me is this ridiculous quarantine when I get back to Ireland
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Thu May 28, 2020 7:46 pm

Just about to book a flight home in late July. Hoping the quarantine will be gone, or less restrictive, by then.
 
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Thu May 28, 2020 8:08 pm

AmricanShamrok wrote:
Having analysed the risk, I personally would be fine with getting on a plane as things stand (although I understand others will have different outlooks and health issues which may deter).


I partially agree with you. I’m not overly concerned about the risk of being in an airport or on-board. What bothers me more is that service on-board, in hotels, at tourist attraction and bars/restaurants will be limited, or non-existent. Falling ill being away from home is difficult and might involve a fortnight self-isolating in a hotel room before being accepted for travel. If travel restrictions were to be put in place again it could happen quickly. There is also the hope/stress of going on holiday and wondering what will happen. On top of all they most insurance policies won’t cover for COVID related claims.

I’m usually pretty happy to take a chance and will likely travel between Ireland and the UK in August/September, depending on how things go and booking at fairly short notice. I can’t see the point in travelling to Spain/Portugal/Greece or the USA for leisure right now.
 
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Thu May 28, 2020 11:43 pm

The comments about Shannon are a bit far fetched.
The good news is that Aer Lingus will be recommencing Shannon - London Heathrow.
Yes the route had mixed fortunes back at the end of 2007 when it was lost to BFS, however, Aer Lingus reinstated it. They've stuck with it and its usually a busy service. I see a long future at Shannon with Aer Lingus in the picture.

In recent times Aer Lingus has made big investments in Shannon, examples include purchase of two Airbus 321-Neo LRs, the opening of Faro, Malaga and Lanzarote and the recent route announcements to Barcelona and Paris (unfortunate timing). Let's be patient.
 
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Thu May 28, 2020 11:54 pm

Interesting that Delta are now putting the A333 on the BOS - DUB route from August 1st and continuing through winter with a 763, but ATL - DUB or JFK - SNN wont return this year. JFK - DUB back Aug 1st with A333 also.
 
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Fri May 29, 2020 2:54 am

With regards to SNN, I think the closeness of ORK and overlap of catchment area is a problem for ramping up pax numbers. ORK serves Cork city, the largest city in the region, and second largest in the country. Killarney-ORK is a shorter journey than to SNN, with Tralee being about equal distance between the two. Waterford is also closer to ORK than DUB.
Whilst SNN, I’m sure, pulls traffic from Kerry, it’s mostly reliant on Limerick, Galway, Ennis and a smattering of other, smaller towns and villages. Plus NOC is up the road, reducing potential demand for SNN (NOC served 805K people in 2019).

It’s a less than two hour drive from SNN to both ORK and NOC, and between the three airports they share 5.25 million pax.
 
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Fri May 29, 2020 5:56 am

Derry City to London flights switch to Stansted

The destination for flights from City of Derry Airport to London Southend has been changed to London Stansted for the next two months.

The move was confirmed by City of Derry Airport this week.

The Airport posted: “Loganair’s service between City of Derry Airport and London Stansted, currently operating in place of the London Southend service at this time, will continue to operate until July 31 inclusive.

www.derryjournal.com/news/environment/d ... 867189?amp



Cityjet rejects claims it plans to use Scandinavian crew

Airline begins redundancy talks with pilot association as part of plan to cut 280 jobs

Claims that Cityjet intends replacing pilots facing redundancy in Dublin with Scandinavian crew have angered the airline’s management.

www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-a ... 1?mode=amp
 
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Fri May 29, 2020 10:40 am

I find it interesting that some regions are going out of their way to encourage tourists to come back. Saw something like this for Cyprus too.
https://www.travelweekly.com.au/article/sicily-offers-chip-holiday-visit-post-covid-19/
 
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Fri May 29, 2020 10:58 am

EI564 wrote:
I find it interesting that some regions are going out of their way to encourage tourists to come back. Saw something like this for Cyprus too.
https://www.travelweekly.com.au/article/sicily-offers-chip-holiday-visit-post-covid-19/


They rely heavily on tourism for a large part of their economies just like the Canaries and Greece. There will be lots of incentives to try stimulate tourists back via various means.



MSP shame to see go . Seems MIA may have same fate.
 
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Fri May 29, 2020 11:52 am

With MSP gone & MIA likely room, plus likely frequency reductions, they’ll find themselves with an oversupply of long haul aircraft
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Fri May 29, 2020 11:56 am

Eirules wrote:
With MSP gone & MIA likely room, plus likely frequency reductions, they’ll find themselves with an oversupply of long haul aircraft


The A332s will most likely exit the fleet for a start. Ex-Qatar A333 EI-EIK has just been up for a quick circuit at DUB as it is due to enter service.
 
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Fri May 29, 2020 12:15 pm

It's possible that EI might get some contracts to fly medication to countries in Africa and South America as Covid sadly continues to spread into the southern hemisphere.
 
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Fri May 29, 2020 1:46 pm

Eirules wrote:
With MSP gone & MIA likely room, plus likely frequency reductions, they’ll find themselves with an oversupply of long haul aircraft

I wouldn't be too worried about the A321LRs; they could easily be deployed on the more premium-heavy short haul routes and retire some of the aging A320s.
 
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Fri May 29, 2020 2:56 pm

Belfast International Airport announces redundancies due to coronavirus outbreak

Employees were told that air travel isn't expected to return to the levels they were before Covid-19 "for a few years"

Bosses at Belfast International Airport have told staff to expect "voluntary redundancies".

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-ne ... 108239.amp




'Flying is going to be different' - Aer Lingus unveils new health and safety measures for passengers

www.independent.ie/videos/flying-is-goi ... 43894.html
 
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Fri May 29, 2020 4:12 pm

LHR-SNN still bookable from July 20 onwards on EI booking site. If they plan to suspend the route until September, when will they remove availability from the booking engine? I have August flights (booked with BA) that as of now still show as operating (per BA).
 
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Re: Irish 5/20: April dragged, but May flies ...

Fri May 29, 2020 8:22 pm

Eirules wrote:
With MSP gone & MIA likely room, plus likely frequency reductions, they’ll find themselves with an oversupply of long haul aircraft

Daily MSP means 1 less frame needed. If IAD is stopped, that’s another frame.
Maybe a reduction in frequency for SEA and stopping MIA, that will be another frame.
So that’s LAX,DAA and maybe DUO surplus to requirements. (Maybe GEY too?) Easy fix.


I’m going to guess 2xJFK, ORD, BOS, SFO will be the core routes from Dublin= 5x A333.
YYZ, LAX, SEA are less likely to remain as daily flights,MCO back to 3 weekly? Not sure, but that’s still 2-3 aircraft there.

With -EIK the EI fleet will be 11 A333.
 
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Sat May 30, 2020 9:22 pm

Quarantine will cease within fortnight, Ryanair CEO claims
Michael O’Leary criticises handling of reopening and says ‘thousands’ booking flights

Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary has predicted Ireland’s quarantine of incoming passengers will be scrapped within two weeks as he rounded on the Government for following scientific advice that differs with several European countries.

Mr O’Leary accused the Government of mishandling the reopening of the economy, saying measures are being made up as they go along.

www.irishtimes.com/news/health/quaranti ... 1?mode=amp
 
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Sat May 30, 2020 9:32 pm

Good on you MO'L - profit before lives! Pilots are bus drivers, passengers are bums on seats and the virus is an annoying inconvenience!
 
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Sat May 30, 2020 10:06 pm

Fliplot wrote:
Good on you MO'L - profit before lives! Pilots are bus drivers, passengers are bums on seats and the virus is an annoying inconvenience!


You don’t have to fly with either him or anyone else until you feel safe to do so. But just for reference, governments across Europe from Italy to Greece to Spain to Austria are opening their borders, not closing them like the Irish government has decided to half heartedly do. I’m sure those governments aren’t doing so purely for profit
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Sun May 31, 2020 12:08 am

If not for profit then why? Those countries at the forefront of returning to normal are the ones with the largest tourist heavy economies! I believe our Government is being extra cautious and I dont see that as a problem. Ireland is but one strand in Ryanairs extensive network!
 
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Sun May 31, 2020 5:26 am

Fliplot wrote:
If not for profit then why? Those countries at the forefront of returning to normal are the ones with the largest tourist heavy economies! I believe our Government is being extra cautious and I dont see that as a problem. Ireland is but one strand in Ryanairs extensive network!


Unfortunately they've only become extra cautious in the last few weeks. For the last two months you could arrive by air or sea without any controls, quarantine, or tracing. Testing and tracing is still a bit of a mess, and results are still taking far too long. The Irish government are doing okay, but they could do much better.
 
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Sun May 31, 2020 9:36 am

Fliplot wrote:
If not for profit then why? Those countries at the forefront of returning to normal are the ones with the largest tourist heavy economies! I believe our Government is being extra cautious and I dont see that as a problem. Ireland is but one strand in Ryanairs extensive network!


I wouldn’t accuse Austria of being dependent upon tourism. Ryanair, like any other company is there to make a profit. They must do so within the laws of the countries they operate in. That’s not to say they can’t highlight how ridiculous those laws can be.

At the height of the pandemic in Italy, Ireland kept its border open knowing thousands of Italian rugby supporters would land in Dublin despite the match cancellation. If there was a time to close borders, it was then. Just look at the research in UK that has confirmed Cheltenham & the Liverpool v Atletico match increased Covid 19 in the locale. But we still let tens of thousands of punters to go to Cheltenham, congregate in tents while locked and then come home unrestricted.

And even now, while Europe is reopening, let’s bring in a quarantine but not apply it to our nearest neighbour where Covid19 is still infinitely higher than here. And employees of American giants such as Intel & Facebook are still allowed to commute between here & America as their employer lobbied to the govt that they’re essential workers. What utter nonsense, simply a public appeasement measure
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Sun May 31, 2020 10:13 am

Okay!
I give in - open the flood gates
Damned if you do and damned if you don't
 
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Sun May 31, 2020 10:17 am

Fliplot wrote:
Okay!
I give in - open the flood gates
Damned if you do and damned if you don't


Well that’s the point. At the night of the pandemic in Europe we didn’t & we weren’t “damned” so why do it now? Let alone half arsed
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Sun May 31, 2020 12:27 pm

Does anyone have access to or know where there are videos of aeroflot operations at Shannon. I used the services a number of times but never recorded anything! Google has little info.
Thanks
 
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Sun May 31, 2020 12:36 pm

Cathay appear to have pushed back the resumption date of HKG to August 1st.
 
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Sun May 31, 2020 1:29 pm

Fliplot wrote:
Does anyone have access to or know where there are videos of aeroflot operations at Shannon. I used the services a number of times but never recorded anything! Google has little info.
Thanks


Youtube has some videos. I have some photos from my SNN-SVO-DEL and back but packed away somewhere. On that trip it was a real mix of great aircraft. A310/IL86 and B767 ( New to them at the time). Of course the highlight was the IL86.

Here are a few videos from people on Youtube :

https://youtu.be/7WAs6zq4e4M

https://youtu.be/x5y9c-TKwYY


This is a really good idea of what SNN used to get in the 90’s generally

https://youtu.be/iK03aO9gWnU

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