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Re: Chinese aviation market international capacity restriction

Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:48 pm

FYI Air Canada have been operating flights from Toronto to Shanghai daily on B777's cargo for quite some time. They perform Toronto to Tokyo leg, switch up the crew, then fly on to Shanghai return, switch crew in Tokyo again, and return to Toronto. No need for crews to be stuck in Shanghai. AC2283 and AC7155, both 777's running daily most of the time. So it certainly can be done with passenger flights.
 
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The first international airline route suspended for having too many COVID19 passengers.

CZ Guangzhou-Dhaka will be suspended for 4-weeks from June 22 after 17 passengers from Bangladeshi tested positive, meeting the conditions for a “circuit breaker” suspension of the service per CAAC.

https://skift.com/2020/06/14/china-sout ... nfections/
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Both DL and UA each received 2x weekly flight blessing from relevant China authorities as of June 12th per DOT filing.
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And voila - DL resume PVG service via ICN next week, with another frequency from SEA in July.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... 3M354?il=0
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The rule seems quite arbitary as China can report whatever random number of positive cases on whichever fights they want, especially when there's also the issue of asymptomatic cases doesn't count in China and the line between asymptomatic casrs and cases with mild symptoms is very fussy


Indeed. This will be a non-starter with the Trump administration.

Another thing I note about this new policy is that, even if Chinese test results announcement are to be trusted, such action is actually penalizing victims as airlines with patients onboard are obviously victim of the virus as well and that's not a risk they can eliminate no matter how many precaution they made. Such is completely opposite to China's diplomacy message of don't blame the one who initially caught the virus and caused it to spread. It would be interesting to see will such policy backfires.


Well China is doing a lot to stop the spread of the virus, why should they accept US airlines sending infected patients because the US is doing nothing against the virus ?

Alternatively, I guess China could do as Trump did early on and allow US flights but ban entry into the country for non Chinese citizens coming from the US.
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Well China is doing a lot to stop the spread of the virus, why should they accept US airlines sending infected patients because the US is doing nothing against the virus ?

Alternatively, I guess China could do as Trump did early on and allow US flights but ban entry into the country for non Chinese citizens coming from the US.

If the concern is travellers from the United States, then it should universally enforce the restriction to all flights from the United States. You can't claim a flight operated by CA would be less likely to be infected than a flight operated by UA.
Also, problem is not non-Chinese citizens. They don't want excessive amount of returning travellers who are mostly Chinese nationals. That is also one of the main reason why they're playing with flight number instead of entry restriction, since they can't really justify denying entry of their own nationals.
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Well who says they don't enforce it universally ? A China Southern Airlines flight has been the first to be blacklisted.
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Indeed. This will be a non-starter with the Trump administration.

Another thing I note about this new policy is that, even if Chinese test results announcement are to be trusted, such action is actually penalizing victims as airlines with patients onboard are obviously victim of the virus as well and that's not a risk they can eliminate no matter how many precaution they made. Such is completely opposite to China's diplomacy message of don't blame the one who initially caught the virus and caused it to spread. It would be interesting to see will such policy backfires.


Well China is doing a lot to stop the spread of the virus, why should they accept US airlines sending infected patients because the US is doing nothing against the virus ?

Alternatively, I guess China could do as Trump did early on and allow US flights but ban entry into the country for non Chinese citizens coming from the US.


China already had a foreign tourist ban since...err..March. The ban still exist. Current US-China traffic is Chinese nationals heading home one way only. No Americans (for that matter, none of the non-Chinese passports holders) are allowed to fly to China. Only recent weeks, few exceptions are made to pre-authorised German, South Korean and Japanese industry managers with 24 hours quarantine on arrival in order to revive the important industry that including investments from Samsung and Siemens. Besides these very few exceptions, you can not travel to China even if you have a long term visiting visa.
 
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Well who says they don't enforce it universally ? A China Southern Airlines flight has been the first to be blacklisted.

See my additional edit in previous reply, how can you claim a traveller on a UA plane is more likely to be infected than a traveler on a CA plane, so as to justify the airlines-based restriction?
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Alternatively, I guess China could do as Trump did early on and allow US flights but ban entry into the country for non Chinese citizens coming from the US.


It is already the case, I believe, and not only for the US. Only a handful of nations where the epidemic situation is stabilized (such as Germany) are allowed into China right now and even them with restrictions.
 
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Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:19 am

c933103 wrote:
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Well China is doing a lot to stop the spread of the virus, why should they accept US airlines sending infected patients because the US is doing nothing against the virus ?

Alternatively, I guess China could do as Trump did early on and allow US flights but ban entry into the country for non Chinese citizens coming from the US.

If the concern is travellers from the United States, then it should universally enforce the restriction to all flights from the United States. You can't claim a flight operated by CA would be less likely to be infected than a flight operated by UA.
Also, problem is not non-Chinese citizens. They don't want excessive amount of returning travellers who are mostly Chinese nationals. That is also one of the main reason why they're playing with flight number instead of entry restriction, since they can't really justify denying entry of their own nationals.


Thank you for posting this. Chinese airlines never stopped operating flights between the US and China. If the danger presented by flights originating in the US was so great, they should have stopped the four Chinese carriers who continued to operated their own flights. These four airlines are charging 5k USD for a one-way return to China right now and it is very difficult to get a booking. Arbitrarily prohibiting US airlines from flying has allowed the Chinese carriers to charge ridiculously high prices.
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:34 am

CAAC suspended Air China rights to serve Moscow after importing more than 5 COVID-19 passengers on July 4th.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... scow-route
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France is restricting flights from China down to one flight per week as China had given approval for 3 flights per week for Air France however was actually only letting one go ahead, in the meantime Air China, China Eastern Airlines Corp, and China Southern Airlines were each operating one flight per week.

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Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:39 pm

China-France clarified authorized frequencies. AF will add a 2nd CDG-PVG flight and KL will begin once-weekly AMS-PVG service.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKCN24H1IO
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Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:57 pm

Air France authorized to resume Beijing service.
AF will become the first EU airline to resume Beijing service.
To comply with health regulations the route will stop in Tianjin for passenger health screening before continuing to the capital.

https://www.air-journal.fr/2020-08-08-a ... 21955.html
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CAAC has announced that an Etihad Abu Dhabi – Shanghai flight, and China Eastern Manila – Shanghai flight, along with SriLankan Colombo – Shanghai flight, would be temporarily suspended after passengers tested positive for COVID-19 upon arrival.
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Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:14 pm

DOT and CAAC agreed to expand weekly passenger flights between nations to 8 per week per side effective immediately.

Now let's just hope US carriers don't import COVID positive passengers to China as they risk having rights suspended.

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DOT and CAAC agreed to expand weekly passenger flights between nations to 8 per week per side effective immediately.

Now let's just hope US carriers don't import COVID positive passengers to China as they risk having rights suspended.

DOT Order 2020-8-6

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN25E2W0
 
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enilria wrote:
LAXintl wrote:
DOT and CAAC agreed to expand weekly passenger flights between nations to 8 per week per side effective immediately.

Now let's just hope US carriers don't import COVID positive passengers to China as they risk having rights suspended.

DOT Order 2020-8-6

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN25E2W0


Did I read that right that ONLY UA and DL can fly to China?
 
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I think AA gave up their rights.
 
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Correct, DL and UA each allocated 4 weekly passenger frequencies.
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I think AA gave up their rights.


AA doesn’t plan to operate pax flights to China (DFW-PVG) until October 24, which could get pushed back.
 
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https://hub.united.com/2020-08-18-unite ... 20030.html

United will increase SFO-PVG via ICN from 2x to 4x weekly starting 9/4. Flights from US-China depart on Wed, Fri, Sat, and Sun, while China-US flights depart 1 day later.
 
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Why is AA not flying given that this is probably one of the few long haul routes that can make money right now with higher ticket price and belly cargo? I am sure they can fill up 1-2 flights per week on a 77W or a 789 out of LAX or DFW ?
 
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Why is AA not flying given that this is probably one of the few long haul routes that can make money right now with higher ticket price and belly cargo? I am sure they can fill up 1-2 flights per week on a 77W or a 789 out of LAX or DFW ?


Is AA even flying cargo into China now? It seems they are slow not just on passenger flights but also on cargo flights. Perhaps they have a different strategy in mind.
 
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Why is AA not flying given that this is probably one of the few long haul routes that can make money right now with higher ticket price and belly cargo? I am sure they can fill up 1-2 flights per week on a 77W or a 789 out of LAX or DFW ?


Is AA even flying cargo into China now? It seems they are slow not just on passenger flights but also on cargo flights. Perhaps they have a different strategy in mind.


Yes, they're operating several cargo-only flights to and from China:

- 1x daily DFW-ICN-PEK-DFW on a 789
- 2x daily LAX-ICN-PVG-LAX on 789s
- 3x weekly LAX-ICN-PEK-LAX on a 789

Next month the LAX-ICN-PEK-LAX flight increases to daily.
 
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flyer56 wrote:
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Why is AA not flying given that this is probably one of the few long haul routes that can make money right now with higher ticket price and belly cargo? I am sure they can fill up 1-2 flights per week on a 77W or a 789 out of LAX or DFW ?


Is AA even flying cargo into China now? It seems they are slow not just on passenger flights but also on cargo flights. Perhaps they have a different strategy in mind.


AA can definitely fill up a weekly 77W DFW-PVG. They are forgoing a lot of money by not jumping in with UA and DL.

UA is selling every single SFO-PVG seat for $5,500 one way, in economy. Full Y only, and that's if you can even find availability. That's around $2m of revenue per flight.
 
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Why is AA not flying given that this is probably one of the few long haul routes that can make money right now with higher ticket price and belly cargo? I am sure they can fill up 1-2 flights per week on a 77W or a 789 out of LAX or DFW ?


Is AA even flying cargo into China now? It seems they are slow not just on passenger flights but also on cargo flights. Perhaps they have a different strategy in mind.


Yes, they're operating several cargo-only flights to and from China:

- 1x daily DFW-ICN-PEK-DFW on a 789
- 2x daily LAX-ICN-PVG-LAX on 789s
- 3x weekly LAX-ICN-PEK-LAX on a 789

Next month the LAX-ICN-PEK-LAX flight increases to daily.


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Ishrion wrote:
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Why is AA not flying given that this is probably one of the few long haul routes that can make money right now with higher ticket price and belly cargo? I am sure they can fill up 1-2 flights per week on a 77W or a 789 out of LAX or DFW ?


Is AA even flying cargo into China now? It seems they are slow not just on passenger flights but also on cargo flights. Perhaps they have a different strategy in mind.


Yes, they're operating several cargo-only flights to and from China:

- 1x daily DFW-ICN-PEK-DFW on a 789
- 2x daily LAX-ICN-PVG-LAX on 789s
- 3x weekly LAX-ICN-PEK-LAX on a 789

Next month the LAX-ICN-PEK-LAX flight increases to daily.


It seems like it would not be hard to add pax then if they are already flying there. They could just fly Pax+Cargo on a 77W to replace the 789 cargo only or add pax flights to complement the current cargo flight. It seems like an easy way to make money --> what other long haul routes right now are seeing planes filled with high fare code tickets


Does anyone know if Air Canada has attempted to jump on this potential transit flight opportunity since foreginers are allowed to transit in AC? They have not seemed to really launched PVG flights either and it seems like AC would also have no problem filling a 77W from YVR-PVG. Alternativey, even WestJet should add in a flight YYC-PVG (not sure if WEstJet can since they never flew to China pre-COVID)
 
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Ishrion wrote:
flyer56 wrote:

Is AA even flying cargo into China now? It seems they are slow not just on passenger flights but also on cargo flights. Perhaps they have a different strategy in mind.


Yes, they're operating several cargo-only flights to and from China:

- 1x daily DFW-ICN-PEK-DFW on a 789
- 2x daily LAX-ICN-PVG-LAX on 789s
- 3x weekly LAX-ICN-PEK-LAX on a 789

Next month the LAX-ICN-PEK-LAX flight increases to daily.


It seems like it would not be hard to add pax then if they are already flying there. They could just fly Pax+Cargo on a 77W to replace the 789 cargo only or add pax flights to complement the current cargo flight. It seems like an easy way to make money --> what other long haul routes right now are seeing planes filled with high fare code tickets


Does anyone know if Air Canada has attempted to jump on this potential transit flight opportunity since foreginers are allowed to transit in AC? They have not seemed to really launched PVG flights either and it seems like AC would also have no problem filling a 77W from YVR-PVG. Alternativey, even WestJet should add in a flight YYC-PVG (not sure if WEstJet can since they never flew to China pre-COVID)


Air Canada already resumed once weekly YVR-PVG via ICN.

WestJet applied a few years ago to serve China, but I don’t think they ever got approved.
 
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Why is AA not flying given that this is probably one of the few long haul routes that can make money right now with higher ticket price and belly cargo? I am sure they can fill up 1-2 flights per week on a 77W or a 789 out of LAX or DFW ?


Is AA even flying cargo into China now? It seems they are slow not just on passenger flights but also on cargo flights. Perhaps they have a different strategy in mind.


AA can definitely fill up a weekly 77W DFW-PVG. They are forgoing a lot of money by not jumping in with UA and DL.

UA is selling every single SFO-PVG seat for $5,500 one way, in economy. Full Y only, and that's if you can even find availability. That's around $2m of revenue per flight.



In this case airfare is a poor tool for analysis; it is not an indicator of demand. Looking at future bookings in September and October into PEK on United there is almost 0 demand, with single or low double digit load factors. AA is merely facing the reality before them (with regards to China) by operating cargo only flights rather than ghost flights.
 
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Is AA even flying cargo into China now? It seems they are slow not just on passenger flights but also on cargo flights. Perhaps they have a different strategy in mind.


AA can definitely fill up a weekly 77W DFW-PVG. They are forgoing a lot of money by not jumping in with UA and DL.

UA is selling every single SFO-PVG seat for $5,500 one way, in economy. Full Y only, and that's if you can even find availability. That's around $2m of revenue per flight.



In this case airfare is a poor tool for analysis; it is not an indicator of demand. Looking at future bookings in September and October into PEK on United there is almost 0 demand, with single or low double digit load factors. AA is merely facing the reality before them (with regards to China) by operating cargo only flights rather than ghost flights.

UA is primarily running the flights for cargo too. That is why their fares are ridiculous. They know low fares is not going to stimulate demand in these times so might as well get as much revenue from passengers who have to fly (for whatever reason) while most of the flight’s revenue is coming from all the cargo in the belly.

I’m not sure why AA are not trying to get passenger revenue on their China flights like UA. Is cargo being carried in the cabin for these flights?
 
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Is AA even flying cargo into China now? It seems they are slow not just on passenger flights but also on cargo flights. Perhaps they have a different strategy in mind.


AA can definitely fill up a weekly 77W DFW-PVG. They are forgoing a lot of money by not jumping in with UA and DL.

UA is selling every single SFO-PVG seat for $5,500 one way, in economy. Full Y only, and that's if you can even find availability. That's around $2m of revenue per flight.



In this case airfare is a poor tool for analysis; it is not an indicator of demand. Looking at future bookings in September and October into PEK on United there is almost 0 demand, with single or low double digit load factors. AA is merely facing the reality before them (with regards to China) by operating cargo only flights rather than ghost flights.


I think people have also stopped booking PEK because they know it’s unlikely to happen as PEK is not getting international traffic. Moreover, many people are struggling to get seats on flight to China with seats being sold out instantly so it should be easy at least in the short term for AA to have launched a 1-2weekly LAX/DFW-PVG route via NRT or ICN etc
 
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Is AA even flying cargo into China now? It seems they are slow not just on passenger flights but also on cargo flights. Perhaps they have a different strategy in mind.


AA can definitely fill up a weekly 77W DFW-PVG. They are forgoing a lot of money by not jumping in with UA and DL.

UA is selling every single SFO-PVG seat for $5,500 one way, in economy. Full Y only, and that's if you can even find availability. That's around $2m of revenue per flight.



In this case airfare is a poor tool for analysis; it is not an indicator of demand. Looking at future bookings in September and October into PEK on United there is almost 0 demand, with single or low double digit load factors. AA is merely facing the reality before them (with regards to China) by operating cargo only flights rather than ghost flights.


I do not understand this remark. UA is not flying into PEK with passenger service, only PVG. How are you seeing low passenger flight loads on UA flights that are not scheduled?
 
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gabep wrote:
sincx wrote:

AA can definitely fill up a weekly 77W DFW-PVG. They are forgoing a lot of money by not jumping in with UA and DL.

UA is selling every single SFO-PVG seat for $5,500 one way, in economy. Full Y only, and that's if you can even find availability. That's around $2m of revenue per flight.



In this case airfare is a poor tool for analysis; it is not an indicator of demand. Looking at future bookings in September and October into PEK on United there is almost 0 demand, with single or low double digit load factors. AA is merely facing the reality before them (with regards to China) by operating cargo only flights rather than ghost flights.


I do not understand this remark. UA is not flying into PEK with passenger service, only PVG. How are you seeing low passenger flight loads on UA flights that are not scheduled?


SFO-PEK looks to be available from October 1. Obviously could get pushed back as the date approaches.
 
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In this case airfare is a poor tool for analysis; it is not an indicator of demand. Looking at future bookings in September and October into PEK on United there is almost 0 demand, with single or low double digit load factors. AA is merely facing the reality before them (with regards to China) by operating cargo only flights rather than ghost flights.


I do not understand this remark. UA is not flying into PEK with passenger service, only PVG. How are you seeing low passenger flight loads on UA flights that are not scheduled?


SFO-PEK looks to be available from October 1. Obviously could get pushed back as the date approaches.


Clarification appreciated. Further, I failed to mention PVG in my comment, but not my research.

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In this case airfare is a poor tool for analysis; it is not an indicator of demand. Looking at future bookings in September and October into PEK on United there is almost 0 demand, with single or low double digit load factors. AA is merely facing the reality before them (with regards to China) by operating cargo only flights rather than ghost flights.


I do not understand this remark. UA is not flying into PEK with passenger service, only PVG. How are you seeing low passenger flight loads on UA flights that are not scheduled?


SFO-PEK looks to be available from October 1. Obviously could get pushed back as the date approaches.


You are right, they are offering SFO-PEK for sale. But I don't believe they have received permission to resume it yet, only approved passenger service is SFO-PVG 4X weekly.
 
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Polot wrote:
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sincx wrote:

AA can definitely fill up a weekly 77W DFW-PVG. They are forgoing a lot of money by not jumping in with UA and DL.

UA is selling every single SFO-PVG seat for $5,500 one way, in economy. Full Y only, and that's if you can even find availability. That's around $2m of revenue per flight.



In this case airfare is a poor tool for analysis; it is not an indicator of demand. Looking at future bookings in September and October into PEK on United there is almost 0 demand, with single or low double digit load factors. AA is merely facing the reality before them (with regards to China) by operating cargo only flights rather than ghost flights.

UA is primarily running the flights for cargo too. That is why their fares are ridiculous. They know low fares is not going to stimulate demand in these times so might as well get as much revenue from passengers who have to fly (for whatever reason) while most of the flight’s revenue is coming from all the cargo in the belly.

I’m not sure why AA are not trying to get passenger revenue on their China flights like UA. Is cargo being carried in the cabin for these flights?


I know that United is carrying cargo in the cabin. It received FAA approval for that in mid-May. https://hub.united.com/united-cargo-fli ... 63015.html

United needed that approval badly as it has the most wide-body planes of any USA carrier (over 200).
 
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Re: Chinese aviation market international capacity restriction

Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:18 am

China to lift 75% capacity cap for international flights for airlines that avoid carrying COVID positive passengers for three week period.

https://www.reuters.com/article/health- ... SB9N2F100O
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Re: Chinese aviation market international capacity restriction

Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:50 pm

CAAC will allow the resumption of airlinks to Beijing from Austria, Canada, Cambodia, Denmark, Greece, Pakistan, Sweden.

https://simpleflying.com/china-beijing- ... l-flights/
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