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kiowa
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Safety information cards

Wed May 27, 2020 2:02 pm

I’ve noticed that many airlines are pulling magazines out of the seat pockets. The reason given is to minimize the spread of a virus. If it truly is a safety reason and if many people touching one object is a virus spreading hazard as we are told, are airlines also removing the safety information cards. The information on them is typically redundant to what the flight attendants put forth in the aisle prior to the flight.
Yes, I know it is a rhetorical question. I can’t imagine the FAA would ever change the rules on this regardless of the perceived hazard.
 
ScottB
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Re: Safety information cards

Wed May 27, 2020 2:09 pm

kiowa wrote:
I’ve noticed that many airlines are pulling magazines out of the seat pockets. The reason given is to minimize the spread of a virus. If it truly is a safety reason and if many people touching one object is a virus spreading hazard as we are told, are airlines also removing the safety information cards. The information on them is typically redundant to what the flight attendants put forth in the aisle prior to the flight.
Yes, I know it is a rhetorical question. I can’t imagine the FAA would ever change the rules on this regardless of the perceived hazard.


It's all about reducing risk, not eliminating risk entirely. There is a valid safety purpose in having a safety information card in the seatback pocket, and for passengers who are deaf or not fluent in the language(s) being used in the safety briefing, the safety card remains important. The airline magazines only serve as entertainment/marketing -- so removing them removes a potential vector for viral transmission without compromising another aspect of safety.

If one accepts an argument that safety cards should be removed in the interest of reducing viral transmission, why not operate without flight attendants? Why not go to single pilot operations?
 
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Re: Safety information cards

Wed May 27, 2020 2:42 pm

ScottB wrote:
kiowa wrote:
I’ve noticed that many airlines are pulling magazines out of the seat pockets. The reason given is to minimize the spread of a virus. If it truly is a safety reason and if many people touching one object is a virus spreading hazard as we are told, are airlines also removing the safety information cards. The information on them is typically redundant to what the flight attendants put forth in the aisle prior to the flight.
Yes, I know it is a rhetorical question. I can’t imagine the FAA would ever change the rules on this regardless of the perceived hazard.


It's all about reducing risk, not eliminating risk entirely. There is a valid safety purpose in having a safety information card in the seatback pocket, and for passengers who are deaf or not fluent in the language(s) being used in the safety briefing, the safety card remains important. The airline magazines only serve as entertainment/marketing -- so removing them removes a potential vector for viral transmission without compromising another aspect of safety.

If one accepts an argument that safety cards should be removed in the interest of reducing viral transmission, why not operate without flight attendants? Why not go to single pilot operations?

Those without PTVs can always stick it on the back of the headrest Ryanair style :drunk:
 
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Re: Safety information cards

Wed May 27, 2020 4:32 pm

People would have to actually pick up and read the safety cards for them to be infected with COVID.
 
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Re: Safety information cards

Wed May 27, 2020 4:56 pm

Wacker1000 wrote:
People would have to actually pick up and read the safety cards for them to be infected with COVID.


An accurate statement if there ever was one!
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Re: Safety information cards

Wed May 27, 2020 4:57 pm

kiowa wrote:
I’ve noticed that many airlines are pulling magazines out of the seat pockets. The reason given is to minimize the spread of a virus. If it truly is a safety reason and if many people touching one object is a virus spreading hazard as we are told, are airlines also removing the safety information cards. The information on them is typically redundant to what the flight attendants put forth in the aisle prior to the flight.
Yes, I know it is a rhetorical question. I can’t imagine the FAA would ever change the rules on this regardless of the perceived hazard.


The safety cards are required by regulation so they would never be removed.
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kiowa
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Re: Safety information cards

Wed May 27, 2020 10:29 pm

alasizon wrote:
kiowa wrote:
I’ve noticed that many airlines are pulling magazines out of the seat pockets. The reason given is to minimize the spread of a virus. If it truly is a safety reason and if many people touching one object is a virus spreading hazard as we are told, are airlines also removing the safety information cards. The information on them is typically redundant to what the flight attendants put forth in the aisle prior to the flight.
Yes, I know it is a rhetorical question. I can’t imagine the FAA would ever change the rules on this regardless of the perceived hazard.


The safety cards are required by regulation so they would never be removed.



Are you saying that regulations never change because somebody in government then would have to take responsibility for the change?
 
alasizon
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Re: Safety information cards

Wed May 27, 2020 10:45 pm

kiowa wrote:
alasizon wrote:
kiowa wrote:
I’ve noticed that many airlines are pulling magazines out of the seat pockets. The reason given is to minimize the spread of a virus. If it truly is a safety reason and if many people touching one object is a virus spreading hazard as we are told, are airlines also removing the safety information cards. The information on them is typically redundant to what the flight attendants put forth in the aisle prior to the flight.
Yes, I know it is a rhetorical question. I can’t imagine the FAA would ever change the rules on this regardless of the perceived hazard.


The safety cards are required by regulation so they would never be removed.



Are you saying that regulations never change because somebody in government then would have to take responsibility for the change?


There is absolutely zero reason to remove the safety information card. Likewise, airlines have to be accommodating to those who are vision or hearing impaired, which is what a safety information card helps meet. Any attempt to remove safety cards would be heavily fought.

I'm not talking about whether or not regulations in general ever get changed but there is zero reason to change this regulation and any attempt would be dead in the water.
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BC77008
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Re: Safety information cards

Wed May 27, 2020 10:51 pm

I wonder if safety information cards will be updated to instruct you to remove your mask before using the oxygen mask...
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DLASFlyer
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Re: Safety information cards

Wed May 27, 2020 11:00 pm

I did have a SkyWest crew yesterday announce they are no longer demonstrating use of oxygen masks due to COVID-19. They referred passengers to the safety card instead of demonstrating.

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