Cointrin330 wrote:LOVE THIS. Thank you for posting the article and all the work. These are some of best threads here.
Interesting concept for sure. I guess the expansion, particularly to the right of the existing Saarinen hall would have substantially reduced the available footprint for the redeveloped IAB, which became T4 though when the TWA Flight Center project described here was proposed, in 1990, the T4 project was 12+ years away from its opening and would have been designed in a different way. I don't even think the T4 replacement of the IAB was conceived then. To me, it seems like the expansion would have been outsized relative to the ticketing and check in lobby even with the added space between the Flight Center and the Sundrome. Would have been interesting to see how, had this project come to fruition, the architecture of all 3 spaces would have been blended together.
Do you know if the expanded concourse was designed principally with the largest TWA jets in mind (747, L1011, 767) or was it to have been able to accomodate all of TWA's aircraft at the time?
PSAatSAN4Ever wrote:Thank you for the fabulous story and drawing!! I have to wonder, though, if the limiting factor here wasn't so much Terminal 5 as it was Terminal 6.
The renderings of the new Terminal 5 layout show a LOT of 747's, indicating there would be LOTS of room between gates. That's forward thinking - what future planes might be parked there? Whatever they will be, there will undoubtedly be room!
However, that Sunport always has seemed incredibly small and inefficient to me. I know it is an I.M. Pei design, and was one of the first terminals every to utilize different floors for arrivals versus departures; however, because of its orientation, not as many planes can dock there as would a "finger" terminal pier.
jfklganyc wrote:Until recently, there was never a Master Plan
jfklganyc wrote:It led to a “tunnel to nowhere” that was built and never used.
airporthistory wrote:jfklganyc wrote:It led to a “tunnel to nowhere” that was built and never used.
Tell me more about that tunnel. Sounds intriguing!
airporthistory wrote:That will be uber cool, even though I say so myself.
airporthistory wrote:Hi folks,
This month 58 years ago, the TWA flight Center was inaugurated. The TWA Hotel, which opened for business on May 19th last year, has become a place of pilgrimage for AvGeeks.
Thirty years ago, TWA commissioned Perkins & Will to developed an expansion scheme for the TWA Flight Center that would have brought it fully up to date.
Among other things, the scheme would have seen Flight Wing Two torn down and replaced with a huge “Y”-shaped concourse. The Flight Center’s iconic “head house” would be used for check-in only. If built, the Flight Center (and the Sundrome) might have still been with us today as a functional terminal.
I wrote a blog post about it with many images of the proposed design. You can find it here: https://www.airporthistory.org/blue-concourse/a-forgotten-scheme-to-expand-the-twa-flight-center
What do you think about the design? Would it have worked?
airlineAZ wrote:Fantastic article, and what a find!! Makes sense that TWA was not in a state at the time to take that on. I wonder if this plan was consulted at all when designing the current JetBlue Terminal 5
jfk777 wrote:The TWA of 1990 was already financially ravaged by Carl Icahn. In 1990 Icahn was selling the Crown Jewel Heathrow routes to American Airlines. This terminal seems way too big for TWA' s needs.
airporthistory wrote:jfk777 wrote:The TWA of 1990 was already financially ravaged by Carl Icahn. In 1990 Icahn was selling the Crown Jewel Heathrow routes to American Airlines. This terminal seems way too big for TWA' s needs.
How bizar that under those conditions TWA would commission the development of a huge expansion plan.
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