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Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:39 am

I appreciate that it is very difficult in the aviation sector, it is also difficult in most other sectors! But it does get tiring reading the sensational headlines over and over. Why such surprise that IAA revenues are down? Or have had our heads in the sand! Anyone got any positive vibes - any at all?
 
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Update from Dublin Airport on runway progress


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Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:22 pm

Aer Lingus set to cut 500 jobs

AER Lingus is set to cut up to 500 jobs, staff were told in an internal message from management today.
The airline has informed Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection Regina Doherty of the redundancies.

It said in a statement that it has informed the minister that headcount reductions of up to 500 employees across the business are anticipated.

The airline said the Covid-19 crisis is having a catastrophic effect on the aviation industry.

It said it is currently operating less than 5pc of its normal schedule and has no certainty regarding the restoration of its services or the future demand for travel once services resume.

www.independent.ie/business/jobs/aer-li ... 99664.html
 
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Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:58 am

I see Cityjets EI-RJU has had all of its engines removed in DUB, I assume it will be removed on a truck or scrapped in DUB?
 
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Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:10 pm

The chances of CX returning to DUB this year look to be pretty slim. S20 flights seem to only be available in full fare class (1000+ per flight!). Hoping their A350s will at least return to Ireland next year.
 
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Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:43 am

Aer Lingus pilot’s defamation award in €300,000 plunge

A pilot who got an award of €387,000 for defamation against the Irish Aviation Authority (IAA) last year has had it cut to €76,500 by the Court of Appeal.

Pádraig Higgins, an Aer Lingus pilot and former vice-chairman of the Irish Microlight Association, sued the IAA over a series of emails it sent to the UK Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) in relation to a flight he took from Italy to Ireland in a microlight in April 2013.

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ireland/aer- ... -0p7292smj



Ryanair is ‘flouting’ Covid safety guidelines, says consumer watchdog
The airline denies Which? Travel claims that it is ‘putting profits before safety’

Ryanair has rejected claims from the British consumer watchdog Which? that it is putting profits above passenger safety and flouting aviation safety guidelines issued by the British authorities.

Which? Travel claims Ryanair and smaller low cost carrier Wizz Air are both “flouting recommendations from the [British] government designed to reduce interaction and avoid transmission of coronavirus on board their planes”.

www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/trave ... 9?mode=amp
 
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Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:35 am

This is behind paywall, ( I only have Irish Times account)

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/a ... 02392.html

Aer Lingus pilots have been offered a generous deal by the troubled airline which protects them from redundancy and outlines an agreed pathway to full pay restoration.

The proposed pilot agreement, seen by the Sunday Independent, sharply contrasts to one offered to cabin and ground crew last weekend and which has since been pulled by the company.

The withdrawal of that agreement last Monday was followed by the announcement on Friday that 500 ground staff are to be made redundant, on top of 296 seasonal and catering staff who are also to leave the airline.
 
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Sun Jun 21, 2020 3:09 pm

EI321 wrote:
I see Cityjets EI-RJU has had all of its engines removed in DUB, I assume it will be removed on a truck or scrapped in DUB?

It's many years since an aircraft has been scrapped at DUB. If this is its fate, I would expect to see it flown to somewhere like Kemble, where specialist dismantlers operate. However several former Cityjet RJ-85s have gone to the USA for fire-bomber conversions, so this may be a possibility too.
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:35 am

Letter to the Editor: Aer Lingus uses crisis to slash pay and axe 500 jobs

Aer Lingus are going through some hard times. However the crisis is temporary.

Aer Lingus have so far netted €7.48m from the HSE for fetching PPE from China. They have been hailed national heroes. But are they?

Last week they denied their cabin crew (mostly women) the opportunity to ballot on a document that would have far-reaching consequences on their terms and conditions and a devastating impact on their pay. Pilots (mostly men) were granted that very facility.

Why? Now Aer Lingus has moved to axe 500 jobs and slash pay by 70%. The taxpayer has been paying the vast majority of Aer Lingus wages. Aer Lingus last year netted €276m profit, €305m in 2018 and has some cash reserves of €900m. The parent company IAG made €3bn in 2019.

https://amp.irishexaminer.com/breakingn ... 06558.html
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:36 am

OA260 wrote:
Letter to the Editor: Aer Lingus uses crisis to slash pay and axe 500 jobs

Aer Lingus are going through some hard times. However the crisis is temporary.

Aer Lingus have so far netted €7.48m from the HSE for fetching PPE from China. They have been hailed national heroes. But are they?

Last week they denied their cabin crew (mostly women) the opportunity to ballot on a document that would have far-reaching consequences on their terms and conditions and a devastating impact on their pay. Pilots (mostly men) were granted that very facility.

Why? Now Aer Lingus has moved to axe 500 jobs and slash pay by 70%. The taxpayer has been paying the vast majority of Aer Lingus wages. Aer Lingus last year netted €276m profit, €305m in 2018 and has some cash reserves of €900m. The parent company IAG made €3bn in 2019.

https://amp.irishexaminer.com/breakingn ... 06558.html


I appreciate the sentiment of the letter, but it entirely ignores the reality that IAG is still burning through $30 million a day. As the support schemes wind down, but demand does not recover at the same rate the cash burn will actually increase, not improve. Past profits have been invested or redistributed to investors and the market has changed so quickly, so dramatically that previous performance is essentially irrelevant.

I know the UK media is making a big thing about 'Air Bridges' and that long differing families 'need' their holiday, but is demand really there? At least 50% of individuals feel their jobs are not secure, combine this with worries about lack of social distancing on public transport/aircraft and limited facilities open in resorts and hotels, why take the risk to travel and spend money you are not sure you have?
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:46 am

TK resuming DUB-IST. First flight will be 24th June then 28th June. After that 4 weekly using A321 aircraft.
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:50 pm

OA260 wrote:
Last week they denied their cabin crew (mostly women) the opportunity to ballot on a document that would have far-reaching consequences on their terms and conditions and a devastating impact on their pay. Pilots (mostly men) were granted that very facility.


I don’t wish to take away from or demean any affected group’s worries, hardships and concerns right now, I’m sure pretty much all of us in the industry are quite worried about our own situations, but trying to make a gender issue is, in my view, stupid by whatever Trade Union official attempted it. EI are well known for having one of the highest % of female flight crew in the industry, if not the highest.
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:52 pm

iRISH251 wrote:
EI321 wrote:
I see Cityjets EI-RJU has had all of its engines removed in DUB, I assume it will be removed on a truck or scrapped in DUB?

It's many years since an aircraft has been scrapped at DUB. If this is its fate, I would expect to see it flown to somewhere like Kemble, where specialist dismantlers operate. However several former Cityjet RJ-85s have gone to the USA for fire-bomber conversions, so this may be a possibility too.


I guess it would also be possible to drive it to Knock for scrapping. Just curious why all 4 engines are removed, surely it would be easier to fly it out of DUB to scrap it. I can't see any sign of the remaining few RJs apart from -RJF which flew to DUB on the 18th, assuming they are stored in SNN or elsewhere.
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:53 pm

I read elsewhere that the Air Corps had bought a Cityjet RJ85 for ground training staff, could be the same one?
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:55 pm

EI321 wrote:
I guess it would also be possible to drive it to Knock for scrapping. Just curious why all 4 engines are removed, surely it would be easier to fly it out of DUB to scrap it. I can't see any sign of the remaining few RJs apart from -RJF which flew to DUB on the 18th, assuming they are stored in SNN or elsewhere.


EI-RJD and EI-RJI (the two Aer Lingus-liveried aircraft) are at DUB - one may be hangared. I'm not qualified to comment on the other points.
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:25 pm

Kerry Airport staff to remain on full pay
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0 ... -full-pay/
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:32 pm

BrianDromey wrote:
OA260 wrote:
Letter to the Editor: Aer Lingus uses crisis to slash pay and axe 500 jobs

Aer Lingus are going through some hard times. However the crisis is temporary.

Aer Lingus have so far netted €7.48m from the HSE for fetching PPE from China. They have been hailed national heroes. But are they?

Last week they denied their cabin crew (mostly women) the opportunity to ballot on a document that would have far-reaching consequences on their terms and conditions and a devastating impact on their pay. Pilots (mostly men) were granted that very facility.

Why? Now Aer Lingus has moved to axe 500 jobs and slash pay by 70%. The taxpayer has been paying the vast majority of Aer Lingus wages. Aer Lingus last year netted €276m profit, €305m in 2018 and has some cash reserves of €900m. The parent company IAG made €3bn in 2019.

https://amp.irishexaminer.com/breakingn ... 06558.html


I appreciate the sentiment of the letter, but it entirely ignores the reality that IAG is still burning through $30 million a day. As the support schemes wind down, but demand does not recover at the same rate the cash burn will actually increase, not improve. Past profits have been invested or redistributed to investors and the market has changed so quickly, so dramatically that previous performance is essentially irrelevant.

I know the UK media is making a big thing about 'Air Bridges' and that long differing families 'need' their holiday, but is demand really there? At least 50% of individuals feel their jobs are not secure, combine this with worries about lack of social distancing on public transport/aircraft and limited facilities open in resorts and hotels, why take the risk to travel and spend money you are not sure you have?


Is the point here though not that "EI/IAG are losing money hand over fist, day after day, due to the current crisis, and as a result need to let some staff go", but the manner in which EI have gone about letting those staff members go. I feel that is the thing that has really annoyed people.

The make an offer, and its pretty much take it or leave it, you have a very short space of time to accept it and EI management knew that the unions wouldn't be able to ask their members if they would accept the offer. And so when the unions said "we need to ask our members if they will accept", EI management "throw the baby out with the bath water" and go for the nuclear option, take everything off the table and "storm off". The optics also look terrible, when they offer another section of their staff an option and allow them time to accept. Why couldn't EI management have offered flight crew a similar style offer that the pilots were offered?

I get the impression that all of this could have been avoided. EI staff know the airline is, and will be, struggling for months to come. I just feel that EI management were not and are not honest, and could have chosen a different path here. I should add, I don't work in the aviation business and I don't fully comprehend the intricacies of employment agreements between staff and management at EI. I'm more than happy to be corrected, but this is my viewpoint on the whole thing from a member of the public POV.
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:29 pm

Cabin crew reject Aer Lingus proposals

Aer Lingus cabin crew have rejected company proposals that would have averted lay-offs and further pay cuts in return for accepting new work practices.

However, the airline had already withdrawn the proposals last Monday on the grounds that unions had failed to meet the company's deadline for acceptance.

It now plans to axe 500 jobs, as well as implementing temporary layoffs and cutting pay to 30% of pre-Covid-19 rates.


http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/06 ... er-lingus/



Flights with EI to Greece , Croatia, Turkey among other typical Summer routes have been now cancelled until 19/7 from DUB . Flights from ORK to
AMS DBV FAO LIS NCE also .
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:43 pm

HTCone wrote:
I don’t wish to take away from or demean any affected group’s worries, hardships and concerns right now, I’m sure pretty much all of us in the industry are quite worried about our own situations, but trying to make a gender issue is, in my view, stupid by whatever Trade Union official attempted it. EI are well known for having one of the highest % of female flight crew in the industry, if not the highest.

Just to be pedantic, this claim was in a letter to the editor, rather than a statement from a union rep.

Regarding the previous profits of EI or their “cash reserves”. I doubt that’s very relevant when 80% of their fleet is grounded with monthly leasing costs still having to be paid. “Burning through cash” is an appropriate phrase.
The EI staff are grimly aware of how serious the situation is for the company. It’s not a question of the staff refusing to make compromise, but of permanent changes being imposed in return for temporary wage certainty and possible debt towards their employer.
We see the pilots being given guarantees on return to 80% of salary over an 10 month period while the rest of the staff have to accept a 20 month “agreement” with no guarantee on timeframe for salary restoration.
 
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Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:43 am

Ryanair flies from Dublin to Milan as European air routes start to re-open
4,000 passengers passed through Dublin airport on Sunday, up 800 people on Saturday

Ryanair has flown its first passenger flight in more than three months from Dublin to Milan in northern Italy.

It’s understood the flight, which departed from Dublin airport at 6pm on Monday, was the first Italian-bound flight since the airline suspended all international flights in and out of Italy in mid-March.

www.irishtimes.com/news/consumer/ryanai ... 1?mode=amp



Shannon Airport ready to reopen to travelling public

Shannon Airport is busy preparing to reopen its doors to the travelling public on July 1st with new health measures in place.

While the airport remained open for essential services to facilitate cargo, repatriation and emergency flights during the COVID-19 crisis, scheduled passenger services were suspended with the onset of the pandemic.

http://clareherald.com/2020/06/shannon- ... lic-11877/
 
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Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:47 pm

CityJet pilots picket the airline’s headquarters in Dublin

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Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:53 pm

HTCone wrote:
I read elsewhere that the Air Corps had bought a Cityjet RJ85 for ground training staff, could be the same one?

The Air Corps one (EI-RJZ) flew into Baldonnel on 17 April.
 
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Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:10 pm

I note from looking at the DUB departures and arrivals tomorrow the remarkably short turnaround time of QR17/QR18 (DOH-DUB-DOH). 1hr, 10mins from chocks-on to chocks-off with the 359 arriving 12:25 and departing 13:35. The average turnaround for long haul ops seems to be around 2hrs.
 
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Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:39 pm

What sort of ground training would the Aer Corps be using EI-RJZ for exactly, fire fighting? Seems like an unusual acquisition.
 
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Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:41 am

Dublin and Cork airports may see up to 1,000 jobs lost over coronavirus
Daa chief says air travel will be safe but stressful experience for the near future

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/ ... 6?mode=amp



Boost For Belfast City Airport As Loganair Re-Establishes Flights To Scotland

Loganair has announced the addition of Glasgow to its portfolio of Scottish destinations from George Best Belfast City Airport.

http://newrytimes.com/2020/06/24/boost- ... -scotland/



Passengers ‘face queue nightmare at airports if two-metre rule stays’
Airline restrictions ‘put Ireland at risk of being set adrift’

The Government is coming under pressure to reduce the social distancing rule for airports to one metre when it decides to ease air travel restrictions.
It comes as a State-appointed taskforce warned Ireland is "at risk of being set adrift" if it does not lift restrictions on airline passengers.

Ahead of a Cabinet meeting on non-essential air travel, it has emerged Dublin Airport Authority (DAA) warned people will face "extended and complex" queues if the two-metre rule is not reduced.

www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavir ... 11305.html
 
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Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:03 am

EI321 wrote:
What sort of ground training would the Aer Corps be using EI-RJZ for exactly, fire fighting? Seems like an unusual acquisition.


Most likely will be used as transport aircraft and potentially patrol work.

Article:New transport aircraft for the Irish Air Corps?
 
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VFRonTop wrote:
EI321 wrote:
What sort of ground training would the Aer Corps be using EI-RJZ for exactly, fire fighting? Seems like an unusual acquisition.


Most likely will be used as transport aircraft and potentially patrol work.

Article:New transport aircraft for the Irish Air Corps?


Its flying life is over.
 
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Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:05 am

AmricanShamrok wrote:
I note from looking at the DUB departures and arrivals tomorrow the remarkably short turnaround time of QR17/QR18 (DOH-DUB-DOH). 1hr, 10mins from chocks-on to chocks-off with the 359 arriving 12:25 and departing 13:35. The average turnaround for long haul ops seems to be around 2hrs.


QR tunarounds are usually 70-90 minutes since they started at DUB however this is tight but its also a tempuary schedule and usually arrivea 20-30 minutes earlier than scheduled.
 
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Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:31 am

iRISH251 wrote:

Its flying life is over.


Ah I misunderstood. Thanks for clarifying
 
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Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:08 pm

Belfast City Airport Swissport staff facing job cuts due to coronavirus pandemic

The firm that employs Belfast City Airport's baggage handlers and check-in staff is planning to cut 4,175 jobs across the UK, it has emerged.

GMB and Unite represent Swissport workers, who handle flights coming into nearly every regional airport in the UK, and described the news as "devastating".

It is understood around 100 Swissport jobs at Belfast City Airport are at risk.

https://amp.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/busi ... 11810.html
 
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Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:24 am

Quarantine for UK set to remain even as EU flight rules eased

Air travel restrictions, which are to be eased by the second week of July, will still apply to passengers arriving from Britain.
Ministers decided to exclude Britain from the plan to join ‘air bridges’ with other European countries, despite fears it could affect diplomatic relationships.

www.independent.ie/irish-news/quarantin ... 14412.html



Ryanair CEO: Ireland 'fudging around' with air bridge plans and form-filling

Ryanair's CEO has criticised the Government for "fudging around" with plans for air bridges between Ireland and other countries.

He also said the current self-isolation rules here are a 'form-filling exercise' and not a full quarantine.

www.newstalk.com/news/ryanair-ceo-irela ... ng-1035530



Swissport warns Irish staff it may face hard choices

Swissport has told its 900 staff in Ireland that it may be forced to make difficult choices in the coming weeks.

www.rte.ie/amp/1149376/
 
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Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:56 pm

A survey by the Central Statistics Office today shows that the Irish general public are very wary of social mixing in the present circumstances.

The bad news for air travel in the immediate future is that the CSO research also revealed that 78% of those surveyed said they are uncomfortable or very uncomfortable with flying abroad.
 
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Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:21 pm

AmricanShamrok wrote:
I note from looking at the DUB departures and arrivals tomorrow the remarkably short turnaround time of QR17/QR18 (DOH-DUB-DOH). 1hr, 10mins from chocks-on to chocks-off with the 359 arriving 12:25 and departing 13:35. The average turnaround for long haul ops seems to be around 2hrs.


EI were doing a similar turnaround in JFK over the last 2 months.
A couple of dozen pax inbound and out.
Double crew on board who leave the aircraft for ~30 mins to allow cleaning and security checks.
 
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Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:34 am

Dublin Airport and Aer Lingus pensioners lose court challenge over cuts to scheme
Judge rules reductions to pensions legal but says deficit clearly a significant problem

The High Court has rejected a challenge on behalf of some 600 retired Aer Lingus and DAA workers over cuts to their pension scheme

www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-a ... 2?mode=amp



€6m in emergency funding confirmed for Shannon Airport

THE Government has approved the allocation of €6.1m in emergency funding for Shannon Airport as it prepares to fully reopen from next week.

The emergency funding was sanctioned at a Cabinet meeting which was held at Dublin Castle this Thursday evening.

www.limerickleader.ie/news/business/553 ... rport.html

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Cityjet protection extended as High Court hears pilots concerns over redundancies
Judge refuses pilots’ union request to extend statutory notice period

The High Court has agreed to extend from 70 to 100 days the period of protection from creditors for regional airline Cityjet.

www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-a ... 7?mode=amp
 
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Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:02 am

dstc47 wrote:
A survey by the Central Statistics Office today shows that the Irish general public are very wary of social mixing in the present circumstances.

The bad news for air travel in the immediate future is that the CSO research also revealed that 78% of those surveyed said they are uncomfortable or very uncomfortable with flying abroad.


This tallies with what I am hearing from friends and relatives. Prior to COVID we were all prone to upset Greta with our carbon footprint. Right now none of us are planning significant travel outside the UK or Ireland. Partly a fear of COIVD, but my main concern would be around insurance if you were to get ill abroad. Cancellation and luggage are important, too, but much less of a risk. There does not seem to be any business trips or conference/trade shows for the rest of 2020 either. All of them have gone virtual - some significantly in advance because of insurance requirements and notice periods for cancellations.
 
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Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:35 am

BrianDromey wrote:
dstc47 wrote:
A survey by the Central Statistics Office today shows that the Irish general public are very wary of social mixing in the present circumstances.

The bad news for air travel in the immediate future is that the CSO research also revealed that 78% of those surveyed said they are uncomfortable or very uncomfortable with flying abroad.


This tallies with what I am hearing from friends and relatives. Prior to COVID we were all prone to upset Greta with our carbon footprint. Right now none of us are planning significant travel outside the UK or Ireland. Partly a fear of COIVD, but my main concern would be around insurance if you were to get ill abroad. Cancellation and luggage are important, too, but much less of a risk. There does not seem to be any business trips or conference/trade shows for the rest of 2020 either. All of them have gone virtual - some significantly in advance because of insurance requirements and notice periods for cancellations.


Very mixed views are what I am hearing from friends,family and business contacts. Some are ready to travel tomorrow and others are forgetting 2020 and booking 2021. The fear seems to be getting stranded somewhere should lock down come again. The next time any lock down comes it will be instant as we see in areas of Germany where there have been outbreaks. Another issue is people not wanting to book and then end up with these infamous vouchers again from airlines. Most reputable insurance companies are now covering illness relating to COVID-19 unless your government have issued travel advice against travel. So for example if someone travelled to Spain when the government lifts restrictions and got COVID-19 they would be covered for their medical bills. If they travelled to a country that was not on a safe list then they would not be covered. What insurance will not cover in either instance is disruption due to COVID-19 so no cover for cancelled flights or hotels shutting etc.. That in itself is putting some people off for this year. What I am seeing is less reputable holiday companies who have not contacted their customers for holidays booked in July and August where the flights have been cancelled and/or the hotels are closed for that period.

The best advice is book last minute for this July/Aug/Sept when latest situation is clear.
 
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Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:38 pm

As if aviation didn't have enough to contend with, I'm hearing that Eamon Ryan, the Green Party TD, is likely to head up a new Department of Climate and Transport. I suspect that will not go down at all well with the aviation sector and given that the Greens no doubt welcome the decline in pax numbers brought about by Covid, you can expect them to be hostile to aviation generally from Day One; expect delays to major aviation related projects (probably not the runway, as that's nearly complete) and probably new taxes on air travel. You can expect a fairly hostile relationship from Ryanair, in particular, but also from Aer Lingus.

Ryan has, in the past, been hostile to aviation and has referred with some disdain to the level of passenger numbers at Dublin Airport, so you can expect to see an almost complete slowdown in new projects; this will impact on aviation's recovery, as well as on jobs in the sector. You'll probably see that from Day One and it wouldn't surprise me if there were a row over delays to the list of "air bridge" destinations, although this goes back to the current administration.

As much as I admire the Greens in other areas (and they do have some potentially useful policies in relation to public transport), I think giving them the aviation brief falls into much the same category as giving Dracula control over the blood transfusion service. If it has to happen, then perhaps aviation could be taken by some other department. If the Greens object to this, then it would be interesting to know why they want control over aviation policy.

I hope I'm wrong and that common sense prevails.
 
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Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:18 pm

Has anyone noticed on fr24? HU749 A333 B-1096 PEK-DUB currently crossing the Irish Sea. This flight is not on the Dublin Airport's arrivals board. I assume its some kind of cargo flight of some sort.
 
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Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:00 pm

FR777 wrote:
Has anyone noticed on fr24? HU749 A333 B-1096 PEK-DUB currently crossing the Irish Sea. This flight is not on the Dublin Airport's arrivals board. I assume its some kind of cargo flight of some sort.


Hainan have flown a few PPE cargo flights over the past few months so it must be. Cargo flights don’t usually show up on the airport arrival board
 
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Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:28 pm

kaitak wrote:
As if aviation didn't have enough to contend with, I'm hearing that Eamon Ryan, the Green Party TD, is likely to head up a new Department of Climate and Transport...

It is very worrying indeed. However, the Greens are only one of 3 parties in government and they are the smallest one at that. It is not like they alone are in government. I would imagine that any major decisions would need cabinet approval or some sort of consensus from other coalition partners. So yes they will likely try to stymie every development in the sector but with FF and FG also in the mix I would hope their influence will dilute the Green effect. Thankfully the runway is almost complete :highfive:

(Edit: just to be clear I am not a climate change denier - I do believe things have to change but I think there's much more low hanging fruit such as electrification of vehicles and trains etc. that can be achieved before tackling aviation. Aviation is not yet ready so these other areas should be focussed on first)
 
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Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:16 am

kaitak wrote:
As much as I admire the Greens in other areas (and they do have some potentially useful policies in relation to public transport), I think giving them the aviation brief falls into much the same category as giving Dracula control over the blood transfusion service. If it has to happen, then perhaps aviation could be taken by some other department. If the Greens object to this, then it would be interesting to know why they want control over aviation policy.

I hope I'm wrong and that common sense prevails.


Hopefully their most off the wall ideas will be diluted. There of course needs to be things done to make everyone live greener lives but slapping on taxes on travel and waste disposal often causes hardship for the less well off in society. The government do need to urgently pass a law permitting E bikes and E scooters as that will ease pressure on roads and public transport especially at a time where people are being discouraged using bus,trains etc ... When you think that the airport coaches can currently only take 11 passengers staff that live around the airport could be encouraged to use these alternatives.



Final Aer Lingus PPE delivery arrives in Dublin after 259 flights

Over 85 million pieces of PPE were delivered in the last three months.

THE VERY LAST scheduled Aer Lingus flight to bring personal protective equipment (PPE) into the State to help battle the Covid crisis landed in Dublin yesterday evening.

In total there were 259 Dublin – Beijing return flights, which represented the largest cargo operation by air in the history of the State.

Aer Lingus operated up to five flights a day over 14 weeks and in total flew 4.75 million kilometres and transported 35,000 cubic metres or 4,000 tonnes comprising over 86 million pieces of PPE.

www.thejournal.ie/ppe-final-flight-aer- ... 7-Jun2020/
 
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Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:45 pm

As we wait patiently for the Dept. of Foreign Affairs and Trade to release its list of "green countries", the coming week will see a significant number of routes resume, notably:
- ORK-CDG (AF/A5)
- DUB-YYZ (AC)
- DUB-BCM, DUB-OTP and DUB-CLJ (0B)
- DUB-LHR (BA)
- DUB-VIE (OE)
- DUB-LIS (TP)
- NOC-PMI (OE)
- SNN-VIE (OE)
...as well as a slew of EI routes from DUB and FR routes from DUB, ORK, SNN, KIR and NOC.

There have been a few more route cancellations too:
- ORK-VRN (V7)
- DUB-CGN (EW)
- DUB-ZAD (OE)
 
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Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:09 pm

So with the end of the PEK PPE flights is it safe to say that the ICN flights will not materialise at this time?
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Re: Irish 6/20: The behemoth reawakens ...

Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:43 pm

Looking at the DAA boards it seems that EI are behind the eight ball again! For every EI flght there are at least 3 or 4 FR flights. Why? Even more foreign carrier flights than EI. Again why?
 
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Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:57 pm

Fliplot wrote:
Looking at the DAA boards it seems that EI are behind the eight ball again! For every EI flght there are at least 3 or 4 FR flights. Why? Even more foreign carrier flights than EI. Again why?


IAG is being quite conservative with the resumption of flights. Similar things can be seen with BA and IB, especially when compared to other European competitors like KLM and LH.
 
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Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:37 pm

AmricanShamrok wrote:
As we wait patiently for the Dept. of Foreign Affairs and Trade to release its list of "green countries", the coming week will see a significant number of routes resume, notably:
- ORK-CDG (AF/A5)
- DUB-YYZ (AC)
- DUB-BCM, DUB-OTP and DUB-CLJ (0B)
- DUB-LHR (BA)
- DUB-VIE (OE)
- DUB-LIS (TP)
- NOC-PMI (OE)
- SNN-VIE (OE)
...as well as a slew of EI routes from DUB and FR routes from DUB, ORK, SNN, KIR and NOC.

There have been a few more route cancellations too:
- ORK-VRN (V7)
- DUB-CGN (EW)
- DUB-ZAD (OE)


DUB YYZ commencing but restrictions are still in place here, no non-essential travel and 14 day self isolation requirement upon arrival in Canada.

Things are constantly changing, lets see how this unfolds!
 
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Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:39 pm

Conservative?
Surely it is important to get flights operational? EI are posturing on jobs so why not get aircraft in the air and see what is actually required! Every seat missed is lost revenue.
 
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Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:43 pm

Some notable comments from CMO with regards increase in young people getting infected and more on travel abroad this Summer. Keeping in mind the younger generation are more likely to travel if certain polls are to be believed.


More young people with virus 'a concern', 6 more deaths

At last night's briefing and again today, the Chief Medical Officer said what worried him most as the country moves to Phase 3 of reopening on Monday, was travel from overseas.

In a tweet this morning, he said he feared many people were planning foreign trips.

Dr Holohan said 2020 was "a year for a staycation" and he urged people to stay in Ireland, spend locally and follow public health advice.

www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0627/1 ... 9-ireland/
 
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Re: Irish 6/20: The behemoth reawakens ...

Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:17 pm

As expected the Greens got a rebranded Transport minister position. I don't think it will bad for Aviation but not exatly the best outcome. The junior position remains with FG so I don't think anything to radical will happen.
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Re: Irish 6/20: The behemoth reawakens ...

Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:22 pm

Fliplot wrote:
Conservative?
Surely it is important to get flights operational? EI are posturing on jobs so why not get aircraft in the air and see what is actually required! Every seat missed is lost revenue.


Lost revenue?

They are losing less by keeping aircraft grounded. Important to get flights back but also more important for authorites to bring more certainty to the industry.

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