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Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:58 pm

Stobart Air to reduce its workforce in Dublin and Cork

Stobart Air, which operates the Aer Lingus regional service, has said it is to reduce its workforce.

The company is to close its London Southend base and cut the number of staff it employs in Dublin and Cork.

Stobart Air did not say how many staff could potentially lose their jobs, but it is understood it could be up to 130.

Around 39 pilots and cabin crew may be made redundant in Dublin, 24 in Cork, with the balance of the cuts in London, Southend.

www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0612/1147 ... -and-cork/
 
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Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:32 am

Air Transat update: planned service resumption at approx. 20% capacity from 23rd July. DUB is not on the list so the return of its seasonal YYZ-DUB route this year appears unlikely.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... july-2020/
 
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Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:53 pm

Good to see that EI management and unions are on the same page. I hope it works out for all parties. Much better approach than confrontation.
 
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Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:11 pm

Fliplot wrote:
Good to see that EI management and unions are on the same page. I hope it works out for all parties. Much better approach than confrontation.

But wait, there's more:

Union says no agreement reached with Aer Lingus on recovery plan
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/06 ... ngus-deal/
 
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Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:08 pm

So I now read! Not sure what to believe anymore! I guess I was being too optimistic!
 
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Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:20 pm

London Gatwick ACL report for winter 2020/2021
https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/uploa ... Report.pdf

Stobart Air:
New route 1x daily Belfast City to London Gatwick

The ACL report does confirm that Stobart did apply for at LGW for a up to 20 x weekly (40 slots) service to BHD. (As wanted 3x Belfast City to London Gatwick) but have only been allocated 2 of the 40 slots they initially applied for.
 
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Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:33 pm

Allanc1987 wrote:
London Gatwick ACL report for winter 2020/2021
https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/uploa ... Report.pdf

Stobart Air:
New route 1x daily Belfast City to London Gatwick

The ACL report does confirm that Stobart did apply for at LGW for a up to 20 x weekly (40 slots) service to BHD. (As wanted 3x Belfast City to London Gatwick) but have only been allocated 2 of the 40 slots they initially applied for.


Stobart Air were granted 110 slots at Manchester (+52 on W19): https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/uploa ... t.xlsm.pdf

Stobart Air were granted 106 slots at Birmingham (+40 on W19): https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/uploa ... report.pdf

Stobart Air were granted 68 slots at Edinburgh (+68 on W19): https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/uploa ... Report.pdf

I would guess this is the plan for a Stobart Air operation at Belfast City - but cannot confirm it
 
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Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:56 pm

SeanM1997 wrote:
Allanc1987 wrote:
London Gatwick ACL report for winter 2020/2021
https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/uploa ... Report.pdf

Stobart Air:
New route 1x daily Belfast City to London Gatwick

The ACL report does confirm that Stobart did apply for at LGW for a up to 20 x weekly (40 slots) service to BHD. (As wanted 3x Belfast City to London Gatwick) but have only been allocated 2 of the 40 slots they initially applied for.


Stobart Air were granted 110 slots at Manchester (+52 on W19): https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/uploa ... t.xlsm.pdf

Stobart Air were granted 106 slots at Birmingham (+40 on W19): https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/uploa ... report.pdf

Stobart Air were granted 68 slots at Edinburgh (+68 on W19): https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/uploa ... Report.pdf

I would guess this is the plan for a Stobart Air operation at Belfast City - but cannot confirm it


Would think all plans have been dropped at least until 2021, can't see them starting anything in October unless there is a financial package on offer given current conditions.
 
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Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:14 pm

If loads are really bad on EI routes to MAN and BHX, would it not make more sense to use an AT7 on the route, rather than an A320? Can't see AT7s doing DUB-LGW, but they were already being used to MAN and BHX.
 
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Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:30 pm

kaitak wrote:
If loads are really bad on EI routes to MAN and BHX, would it not make more sense to use an AT7 on the route, rather than an A320? Can't see AT7s doing DUB-LGW, but they were already being used to MAN and BHX.


Certainly would not rule out LGW being downgraded for Winter depending on how the situation continues. Anything is possible at this stage. Being a regular on this route I will certainly be following this with interest.
 
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Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:37 pm

Reminder that Belfast City has lost a lot of routes with flybe going - and easyJet can only fill so much from Belfast International. There is still a business market from BHD which will want routes - even at reduced frequencies to flybe - which Stobart could tap into
 
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Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:07 pm

So are we assuming these routes, if launched, would have been under the Aer Lingus Regional brand? It makes sense from an awareness point of view, it's a strong and well respected brand but it would also have been a slight shift of focus from its current mission.

With Flybe gone, there was definitely an opportunity for Stobart. It just raises the question of what mainline carrier they were going to operator under.
 
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Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:41 pm

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Unions and management at Aer Lingus agree on Covid-19 crisis recovery plan

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/06 ... very-plan/

Good news for EI staff based at SNN in that previously announced layoffs will now be averted..

Company issued the "revised" document as an ultimatum to the unions. (draft document was presented last Friday, used the works "in perpetuity" regarding changes to working conditions)
Union reps only met the company today, so no idea how they could have "agreed" to a document that was only sent to them yesterday.
And SNN crew are still furloughed/laid off temporarily.


My experience tells me that EI Mgmt are leaking the story in order to back the unions into a corner.
Makes them look intractable.
 
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Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:16 am

Always a silver lining - change of kitchen sink I think at EI. I am surprised though there is anyone in EI who can even spell perpetuity!!!
 
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Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:07 pm

OA260 wrote:
kaitak wrote:
If loads are really bad on EI routes to MAN and BHX, would it not make more sense to use an AT7 on the route, rather than an A320? Can't see AT7s doing DUB-LGW, but they were already being used to MAN and BHX.


Certainly would not rule out LGW being downgraded for Winter depending on how the situation continues. Anything is possible at this stage. Being a regular on this route I will certainly be following this with interest.


Losses are losses so EI will just suspend LGW and focus on LHR like they have been doing.

People forget EI get a fee for all ST passengers, ST take the risk and without guarantees on costs it will not happen give STs own financial situation.

MAN/BHX will just have freq cut further until demand recovers. If anything ST may pull off these until demand recovers and leave EI with 7-10 weekly core service. Worse case BHX could also be suspended.
 
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Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:38 am

Allanc1987 wrote:
London Gatwick ACL report for winter 2020/2021
https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/uploa ... Report.pdf

Stobart Air:
New route 1x daily Belfast City to London Gatwick

The ACL report does confirm that Stobart did apply for at LGW for a up to 20 x weekly (40 slots) service to BHD. (As wanted 3x Belfast City to London Gatwick) but have only been allocated 2 of the 40 slots they initially applied for.


If they only got 2 out of 40 slots would it be daily or a weekly flight?
 
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Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:18 am

The Stobart slot applications are interesting. If they are planning to fly from BHD - which seems logical, the EIR brand seems suitable and complements the EI flights remaining from BHD, just LHR? The number of slots applied for indicates 3-5 daily on BHX, MAN and EDI. If the slots are just being used at BHD, the operation would still have lower frequency than flyBe offered on the routes. Stobart will have a lot of information from Connect airways about the demand and fare profiles for the flyBe network. A BHD base could keep 3 or 4 ATRs in gainful employment.
Gatwick is an interesting one, EI have tried that route themselves - I would have thought LCY or even SEN would have been of more interest to Stobart, perhaps they were being opportunistic and attempting to get slots they otherwise wouldn't.
 
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Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:48 pm

opticalilyushin wrote:
Allanc1987 wrote:
London Gatwick ACL report for winter 2020/2021
https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/uploa ... Report.pdf

Stobart Air:
New route 1x daily Belfast City to London Gatwick

The ACL report does confirm that Stobart did apply for at LGW for a up to 20 x weekly (40 slots) service to BHD. (As wanted 3x Belfast City to London Gatwick) but have only been allocated 2 of the 40 slots they initially applied for.


If they only got 2 out of 40 slots would it be daily or a weekly flight?


Sorry this is only once a week; it does look like Stobart wanted to run 3x daily 6 days a week and 2x once a week on BHD to LGW with using the E190.
Though I wonder if able to lease slots from VS I’m not sure if this with EIR or another Airline.
 
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Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:57 pm

United Airlines are pulling SNN-EWR route and will not return in 2021.

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home ... m=facebook
 
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Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:32 pm

snnus wrote:
United Airlines are pulling SNN-EWR route and will not return in 2021.

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home ... m=facebook


Huge blow after 22 years of serving SNN!

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Aer Lingus warns of further cuts if plan is rejected

Aer Lingus has warned staff that if they do not accept a Recovery Plan which includes work practice reforms by this evening, the company will press ahead with further pay cuts and layoffs.

The warning comes as the cabin crew union Forsa said it would take till next Monday to complete a ballot of members.

www.rte.ie/amp/1147482/
 
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Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:47 pm

snnus wrote:
United Airlines are pulling SNN-EWR route and will not return in 2021.

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home ... m=facebook


Their most recent plan was to retire their international-configured 757s and replace with with A321XLRs from 2023, I wonder have they brought up the 757's retirement, perhaps they don't see demand recovering before 2023.
 
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Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:57 pm

I see several airlines have restarted services today (e.g. KLM) and more later this week, but who is actually allowed to travel. If I turn out at the airport tomorrow with a KLM ticket, would I be turned around and told to go home, ticket or not?
 
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Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:28 pm

LH update: the seasonal FRA-SNN route due to resume on 4th July has been scrubbed. Now due to resume 15th May 2021.
 
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Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:30 pm

I am bit confused..Under what brand name will Stobart be flying the routes from LGW and the other airports? And with what type of a/c, only ATRs or E-190s too?
Flying is breathing..no planes no life..
 
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Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:44 pm

OA260 wrote:
Aer Lingus warns of further cuts if plan is rejected

Aer Lingus has warned staff that if they do not accept a Recovery Plan which includes work practice reforms by this evening, the company will press ahead with further pay cuts and layoffs.

The warning comes as the cabin crew union Forsa said it would take till next Monday to complete a ballot of members.

http://www.rte.ie/amp/1147482/


The article has been updated now - they are going ahead with the cuts, as not all unions signed up to it and they're done.

Pay and working hours cut to 30% and layoffs is now confirmed according to the article.

They missed the 6pm deadline, and it had already been extended apparently so that's how it's going to go.
I do enjoy a spot of flying, especially when it's not in economy!
 
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Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:29 pm

ClassicLover wrote:
OA260 wrote:
Aer Lingus warns of further cuts if plan is rejected

Aer Lingus has warned staff that if they do not accept a Recovery Plan which includes work practice reforms by this evening, the company will press ahead with further pay cuts and layoffs.

The warning comes as the cabin crew union Forsa said it would take till next Monday to complete a ballot of members.

http://www.rte.ie/amp/1147482/


The article has been updated now - they are going ahead with the cuts, as not all unions signed up to it and they're done.

Pay and working hours cut to 30% and layoffs is now confirmed according to the article.

They missed the 6pm deadline, and it had already been extended apparently so that's how it's going to go.


There's simply no choice but to push ahead if that level of messing around is going on. This is not the time for week long ballots or anything similar. The reality is that the demand base has totally collapsed. The news over the weekend was terrible with respect to the recommencement of any meaningful level of Transatlantic travel within the near term which will have a severe impact on the Aer Lingus business model. We are just starting to see now the true economic consequences of what we are faced with. The situation will only continue to get worse for some time before any improvement is seen.

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Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:46 pm

kaitak wrote:
I see several airlines have restarted services today (e.g. KLM) and more later this week, but who is actually allowed to travel. If I turn out at the airport tomorrow with a KLM ticket, would I be turned around and told to go home, ticket or not?


HUH.......wrong example.

DUB-AMS has been a unique European route these last few months, as all three operating carriers EI, FR and KLM have continued to operate this route throughout the lockdown period.

AMS just reported 208.000 passengers for May 2020 (-96.8%), with over 50% transfer passengers and over 70,000 long haul passengers.
With three carriers and daily flights, DUB-AMS will feature quite strongly in these figures.

Apparently lots of nationals were still returning to their home countries.







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Re: Irish 6/20: The behemoth reawakens ...

Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:37 pm

EIBusiness wrote:
ClassicLover wrote:
OA260 wrote:
Aer Lingus warns of further cuts if plan is rejected

Aer Lingus has warned staff that if they do not accept a Recovery Plan which includes work practice reforms by this evening, the company will press ahead with further pay cuts and layoffs.

The warning comes as the cabin crew union Forsa said it would take till next Monday to complete a ballot of members.

http://www.rte.ie/amp/1147482/


The article has been updated now - they are going ahead with the cuts, as not all unions signed up to it and they're done.

Pay and working hours cut to 30% and layoffs is now confirmed according to the article.

They missed the 6pm deadline, and it had already been extended apparently so that's how it's going to go.


There's simply no choice but to push ahead if that level of messing around is going on. This is not the time for week long ballots or anything similar.

EIBusiness


Just out of curiosity on reading your viewpoint, would you accept a 70% pay and hours cut so readily in your job?
 
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Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:37 am

Business at Belfast airport slow to take off as travellers trickle in flights

Almost three months after being grounded by coronavirus, easyJet returned to the skies above Northern Ireland yesterday.

After a long hibernation, the reawakening of the aviation industry, it seems, will be a slow and steady process.

https://amp.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news ... 88527.html



70% drop in air traffic expected at Shannon Airport

The aviation sector globally has been devastated by the pandemic, and in the Mid-West, Shannon Airport has witnessed an almost total collapse of traffic and revenues.

According to the Irish Aviation Authority, Shannon Airport reported 325 flights during May, a decrease in movements of 86.9% compared to the same month last year.

The airport had secured new routes for the region, the first of which was due to start in March just before the outbreak of the pandemic here.

www.rte.ie/amp/1147562/
 
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Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:58 am

marcogr12 wrote:
I am bit confused..Under what brand name will Stobart be flying the routes from LGW and the other airports? And with what type of a/c, only ATRs or E-190s too?


Hi Marcogr12,
This is the point. Embraers are being returned to the lessors and 2 ATRs, so LGW is unlikely. A prop is not suited imho. Remains to be seen the attractiveness of developing new routes by Stobart under EI Regional. If the contract was renewed, that would be a different story.
 
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Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:35 am

Pribably no better time to renew/renegotiate any or all contracts! It will be easier to fill an ATR than an A320 so that might help Stobart! But for now who really knows. Belfast city could be a plus but I think it will be a long game and bot dure Stobart have the resources for that.
 
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Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:29 pm

The unilateral imposition of new T&Cs at EI is very IAG "Show me the F***ing money" par for the course. With BA leading the aggressive cost cutting the rest of the group have little choice, if they want to secure any investment going forward.

Fliplot wrote:
Pribably no better time to renew/renegotiate any or all contracts! It will be easier to fill an ATR than an A320 so that might help Stobart! But for now who really knows. Belfast city could be a plus but I think it will be a long game and bot dure Stobart have the resources for that.

I think Belfast is attractive to EI and IAG. If they can do it for no risk to themselves I think they would be very keen. It will basically make BHD an IAG airport and you can be sure they will turn that screw. FR and U2 have already tried BHD and walked away. The ATR is well sized to offer high frequency domestic flights at a better cost base than flyBe could ever have dreamed of. The fuel savings alone compared to the Q400 would be substantial.
I'm really not sure about LGW - I suspect it is a back-up plan if they cannot get rid of the E190s or find profitable work for them (small chance of that unless they manage to negotiate a power-by-the-hour lease). The IAG airlines have plenty of slots they could lease/lend Stobart. VS have a few too and keen to keep them alive, so they could be a source. I would think most of the remaining VS slots are morning arrivals and afternoon departures, however. They only retain 65 weekly slots at LGW, by comparison EI have 92 Vueling 220, BA 902 and easyJet 2,358.
 
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Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:46 pm

Ryanair to launch 4x weekly Dusseldorf - Dublin from 1 August 2020

https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ryan ... ?market=ie
 
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Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:42 pm

Inaugural Air Baltic VNO-DUB has taken place today.
 
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Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:09 pm

Seems some people are ready to fight Aer Lingus

Stop Aer Lingus Covid 19 Unfair Recovery Plan

Aer Lingus has cut staff wages by 70% which is the highest wage cut ever seen in Ireland in the 21st century. On top of the wage cut Aer Lingus has imposed changes to work practices and terms and conditions, this includes lay-offs as well as a ban on industrial action including strikes to February 2022.
Despite the frequency of cargo flights including those to China for PPE equipment funded by the government, profits recorded in 2019 of 276 million, 305 million in 2018 and reserves of 900 million. IAG, Aer Lingus's parent company also having profits of 3 billion in 2019, none of which were shared amongst the staff. During this pandemic the state is currently paying a large portion of the airlines wage bill under the wage subsidy scheme.


www.change.org/p/aerlingus-stop-aer-lin ... en-gb%3Av2
 
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Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:23 pm

Vicenza wrote:

Just out of curiosity on reading your viewpoint, would you accept a 70% pay and hours cut so readily in your job?


Absolutely I would over the short term if it meant security of the role longer term in what is a once in a century health crisis and economic collapse.

Moreover - it was a 50% pay cut offer that was not readily accepted - based on all of the publicly available information. That, in principle, is a very strong deal given that the demand base of the airline has totally collapsed. There's every chance that European - Transatlantic travel, at least on a leisure basis, will remain banned for the rest of the year into 2021. Aer Lingus' exposure and operating model means that this will have a devastating impact on its revenues and profitability.

The economic crisis from this event will make 2008-2009 appear like prosperity in comparison.

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Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:45 pm

EIBusiness wrote:
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Absolutely I would over the short term if it meant security of the role longer term in what is a once in a century event..........

True enough.
The problem with the "document" was that it didn't specific what exactly the "short term" was, but the changes to T&Cs were very clearly permanent.

In theory a guarantee of 50% pay going forward was certainly a good thing. A lot better than many other companies.
And obviously this situation is not going away soon.
EI load factors and flights operations will be slashed until at least March 2021. Having income certainty to get to that point is a very positive option for workers.

The uncertainty was regarding how an increase in working hours would happen, internal videos stated that increase in working hours would be given to staff who engaged in "up skilling and flexibility" which in EI terms is selective.
EI could leave certain workers at under 50% hours and in growing debt to their employers for a period of 18 months.
The date of February 2022 as an end point is not clearly defined. It was a proposed endpoint but was reliant of the financial situation at Q42021. No trigger point/threshold was defined, which leaves an extension of the situation a strong possibility. EI might have "net performance in 2019" as their target.

The document included references to outside contractors working in the engineering section.

The document was in no way a collaborative exercise. It was presented as a fait accompli to the reps with an unclear and arbitrary deadline given.

The unions got the document on Friday with EI leaking info to RTE before they even met the unions on Saturday, which was AFTER the magical deadline that hadn't been specified to them.

I can understand the rationale given behind the Friday deadline (payroll timeframe) but considering this document is at least 10 days old the lack of engagement from Mgmt is asking for a fight.
2 meetings over 10 days with no clarity provided yo questions asked at the first meeting.

For what was supposed to be such a critical survival situation for EI you would think they could have spent a little more time on it. The initial warning about 30% pay, layoffs and work changes was given 4 weeks ago.

I have read a few media reports which reference EI profits in 2018 and 2019 as well as their cash reserves. But these don't really mean a thing. Those profits are gone (IAG reinvestment), and a cash reserve doesn't last very long with 80% of your fleet grounded.

This is the same company who back in March/April rationed gloves for crew and refused requests for sanitiser and who wouldn’t permit mask wearing until 2 weeks ago.
 
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Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:43 am

City of Derry Airport brings in temperature checks, face masks and other measures to keep passengers and staff safe

Departing passengers at City of Derry Airport are now required to undertake temperature checks and will be issued with face masks as part of additional measures introduced to keep everyone safe while using City of Derry Airport.

www.derryjournal.com/business/city-derr ... 884591?amp



Derry flights to Edinburgh, Glasgow, Liverpool to resume within weeks

Flights from City of Derry Airport to a number of popular destinations are to resume within weeks.

www.derryjournal.com/business/derry-fli ... 886129?amp
 
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Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:33 am

BrianDromey wrote:
FR and U2 have already tried BHD and walked away.


Ryanair 'walked away' because they couldn't get the permanently-discounted rates they wanted, nor a runway extension.

Easyjet only operated one route from EGAC as a spoiler to Ryanair, they didn't have any intention of moving over wholesale.

One problem with the City airport's historic push for growth is that increased leisure travel volumes made it less attractive for business travellers, particularly around security. With FlyBE gone this might be an opportunity to scale-back their ambitions and focus on being a business-centric airport, like London City. An airport doesn't need to grow if it can establish a solid and profitable niche.
 
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Finnair have delayed their restart of operations at DUB. Due to restrictions in both Ireland and Finland they are now looking to resume maybe in August instead of July. Schedules on their booking system have been updated.
 
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Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:14 pm

With United dropping EWR SNN, I wonder would EI be able to use an A321LR on the route next summer. I hope its due to United having a lack of an aircraft with the 757s being retired.
 
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Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:30 pm

RE3402 (DUB-CFN) diverting back to DUB now after circling CFN for about 45 minutes. Not sure of the reason why.
 
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AmricanShamrok wrote:
RE3402 (DUB-CFN) diverting back to DUB now after circling CFN for about 45 minutes. Not sure of the reason why.


There is a yellow weather warning for Donegal heavy rain and thunder storms so that could be it.
 
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Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:50 pm

Does anyone know when the leases on the oldest leased EI A320s are due to expire, I wonder are they looking to trim the fleet by a few frames.
 
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Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:32 pm

It's being reported on a sometimes not very Professional rumours network [ ;) ] that EasyJet are starting a 12x weekly service BFS-LBA this winter, replacing Flybe, which was about 4x daily
 
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Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:46 pm

Drop of 1.5 million passengers at Irish airports in Q1

New figures from the Central Statistics Office show a substantial drop in international air travel during the first quarter of 2020 due to restrictions imposed to prevent the spread of Covid-19.

The CSO noted modest increases in passenger numbers at Dublin, Cork, Shannon, Knock and Kerry airports for the months of January and February.

But data for March shows a drop of 57.5% in passenger numbers compared to the same month in 2019 due to the Covid-19 restrictions.

www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0617/1147 ... n-figures/



Aer Lingus pilots' wages to recover to 80% by April

Aer Lingus pilots, whose pay has been halved due to the Covid-19 emergency, will see earnings gradually recover to 80% of normal by April if they accept proposals in a ballot by their union Fórsa/IALPA.

However, SIPTU said it was "unacceptable" that the pilots had been given time to hold a ballot on their crisis proposals, while non-pilot unions had been denied that right.

www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0617/11480 ... us-pilots/
 
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Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:17 am

Loganair launching BHD-GLA on September 4th.

https://www.belfastcityairport.com/News ... elfast-Cit
 
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Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:20 am

The times for the easyJet service seem very sensible, allowing daytrips, if desired.
BFS 07:30 Mon-Sat
EZY282 arrives BFS 10:20 Mon-Sat
EZY283 departs BFS 18:30 Mon-Fri & Sun
EZY284 arrives BFS 21:20 Mon-Fri & Sun


ELBOB wrote:
BrianDromey wrote:
FR and U2 have already tried BHD and walked away.


Ryanair 'walked away' because they couldn't get the permanently-discounted rates they wanted, nor a runway extension.

Easyjet only operated one route from EGAC as a spoiler to Ryanair, they didn't have any intention of moving over wholesale.

One problem with the City airport's historic push for growth is that increased leisure travel volumes made it less attractive for business travellers, particularly around security. With FlyBE gone this might be an opportunity to scale-back their ambitions and focus on being a business-centric airport, like London City. An airport doesn't need to grow if it can establish a solid and profitable niche.


It might surprise you that even "business-centric" airports like LCY report 55% of their traffic is leisure. https://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articles ... ecord-year
The real issue is there isn't enough traffic between BHD and BFS to split between two competing airports. I accept that one airport or the other will always be more convenient for some people, but splitting less than 9 million passengers between two airports does hinder both airports efforts to invest in the facilities passengers would like and to attract new business. Both BHD and BFS predominantly connect to UK airports, with a splattering of Sun destinations, so are very much in competition with each other.

I don't intend to come across as anti-BFS/BHD, it is a difficult market, quite different to other UK or Irish airports. The predominant traffic is O&D (a mix of Business, Leisure and VFR) to/from GB, so the airports and airlines are more like train service. The market is extremely price sensitive, but the volume allows frequency to also be offered as demand is strong, despite the price sensitivity. I think Belfast will do quite well (as will a lot of other Irish airports) as I would guess that UK-Ireland demand will recover COVID demand before European traffic, US far behind this.
 
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Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:06 pm

OA260 wrote:
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Aer Lingus pilots' wages to recover to 80% by April

Aer Lingus pilots, whose pay has been halved due to the Covid-19 emergency, will see earnings gradually recover to 80% of normal by April if they accept proposals in a ballot by their union Fórsa/IALPA.
However, SIPTU said it was "unacceptable" that the pilots had been given time to hold a ballot on their crisis proposals, while non-pilot unions had been denied that right.

http://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/061 ... us-pilots/

60% in October, 70% in January and 80% by April. With no further reduction once each threshold is reached.
So if EI are only operating at 60% of planned operations in April 2020 their flight crew will still be paid 80% of contracted salary.

This level of definition would have allowed the previous proposal to be acceptable to all the other work groups. They were asked for a change in working conditions and a continued 50% salary “until work increases“. And that further reductions may be needed if air traffic suffers another crisis.
But EI could have made the “offer” much more palatable with some metrics regarding expected operations levels over the coming months.

The guarantee of 50% salary going forward was a good option, the lack of definition of a return to over 50% salary/rostered hours however created a vague open ended threat.
 
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Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:35 am

Dublin Airport passengers hit fresh blow as travel restrictions and quarantine rules to be extended

Quarantine is set to continue and travel restrictions will hold until early July

Irish people looking to holiday soon may have to think again as rules instructing those arriving in Ireland to quarantine for two weeks are set to be extended.

Laws that require visitors arriving in Dublin Airport and other ports to tell authorities where they will be self-isolating for 14 days after they arrive will continue for another three weeks until July 9.

www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/dubl ... 213037.amp



Unions table proposals to avoid job losses at Irish Aviation Authority

Fórsa and other unions at the Irish Aviation Authority (IAA) have put forward their proposals in a bid to avoid lay-offs at the body that is in charge of air traffic management and safety.

As a result of the Covid-19 crisis, air traffic has fallen by more than 80pc with the IAA sustaining a sharp drop in revenues.

Most of its €197m revenues last year came from €129m in 'en route' aviation fees. An IAA spokesman said that staff pay for April and May was protected and the authority remain in discussions with unions as air traffic volumes remain low. He said that the IAA has already implemented "significant cost-cutting measures"

https://amp.independent.ie/business/job ... 98057.html

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