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Turkish Aviation June 2020

Sun May 31, 2020 6:40 pm

Hello there Turkish Aviation fans,

With tens of thousands of people dead due to the virus, millions of people out of work, world economy is in turmoil; airlines are having a hard time finding pax to fly.
Recovery is going to be a slow process but at the same time glad to see that TK and Pegasus are starting domestic flights June 1st with baby steps.

If we did not have the COVID19 pandemic for the past few months; we would have seen these TK up-gauges in June:
-SIN to go from 7 to 10 W.
-Tunis 14 -> 18W
-LAX to 10W
-KUL to 11W
-ORD to 10W
-IST-MEX-CUN to 4W
-IST-YVR would start in June with 3 x weekly with 787-9

I guess we have to wait few more years for all those to happen :(

-Only good piece of news is that the 3rd runway which is to the East of the terminal at IST might open on June 8th. That would make the Domestic flight taxi times shorter and it might help the overall taxiing times eventually when things get busier.
-From last month's thread there are some new changes to the TK inflight catering: https://onemileatatime.com/turkish-airl ... _two_hours
-Also, I am sure we will see many other changes preflight or onboard. TK lounge at IST will be a whole different experience with many limitations.
I see these changes necessary and hopeful that they will be temporary.

Please continue, you know the rules and please be safe.

**You can find last month's thread here: Turkish Aviation May 2020
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Sun May 31, 2020 7:22 pm

Thanks for a new thread. It will be interesting how they run the lounges at IST. On the plus side they are big compared to many others and of course the expected drop in those using them will help .
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Sun May 31, 2020 8:41 pm

OA260 wrote:
Thanks for a new thread. It will be interesting how they run the lounges at IST. On the plus side they are big compared to many others and of course the expected drop in those using them will help .

I agree. Nobody expects the pax numbers to go preCOVID levels anytime soon. They have many more months to figure things out. I can see TK only allowing J pax and Elite members in to lounges without their guests. TK can be very creative. I can even imagine them to enlarge the size/number of the lounges somehow.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:17 am

On Sunday they inaugurated the special pandemic hospital on former airport grounds. The 125,000 square meter facility has 1,008-bed capacity.

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Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:32 am

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On Sunday they inaugurated the special pandemic hospital on former airport grounds. The 125,000 square meter facility has 1,008-bed capacity.


Are these guys wizards or something - how did they make it so fast and that too with landscaping all around and nicely paved parking lots?!!

Wish the hospital, its operations, and the workers and the patients all the best - the world needs to turn the coronavirus page!!!

Have to say - feeling nostalgic seeing the old airport in the background - lots of memories traveling through there! :thumbsup:
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:34 am

I believe starting from today Turkish Airlines and Pegasus are resuming some domestic flights? How many planes and which ones (for TK) will they activate for these flights?

I am sure that once flights are resumed, demand will boom. After all that's what happened at JU. They had a really slow start but after a week bookings exploded and in the first two weeks of June they increased overall frequencies from 17 to 70. Given the similarities in mentality I am sure the same will happen in Turkey as well, especially with domestic flights.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:43 am

The Ankara and Izmir flights should have A333s and the Antalya and Trabzon flights should have A321s.
 
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Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:34 pm

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The Ankara and Izmir flights should have A333s and the Antalya and Trabzon flights should have A321s.

Confirmed, there will be one daily return flight to/from each of the four destinations on 1-2-3 June. Schedule at https://turkishairlines.ssl.cdn.sdlmedi ... 3590PN.pdf
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:42 pm

Any idea when the cargo will move from the old ISL Atatürk airport to the new IST airport?? i was hearing it will be mid of 2020..
 
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Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:35 pm

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On Sunday they inaugurated the special pandemic hospital on former airport grounds. The 125,000 square meter facility has 1,008-bed capacity.

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Two fully capable runways...gone.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:44 pm

TK adding flights from secondary Turkish airports to Europe for the summer: https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-29may20/

I am surprised ADB is only getting AMS.
 
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Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:00 pm

3rd runway at IST is planned to tentatively open June 18th. Located on the east side of the terminal should aid with reducing taxi times especially for domestic flights.

Hourly slot allocation availability will also rise from 80 to 120.
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Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:04 pm

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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:29 pm

TK also offering passengers hygiene kits

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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:42 pm

Such a sad image...Unfortunately that's how it's got be all over the world. Do we know which flight was that? I am surprised they used such a big type (is it the A333?) instead of an A320/321/738
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:53 pm

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Do we know which flight was that? I am surprised they used such a big type (is it the A333?) instead of an A320/321/738

If I read the photo correctly, this has to be TK2150 IST ESB - it is scheduled as a daily A333 until 3 June, A333 is also used on the daily rotation to ADB. I guess a bigger plane may be utilised in view of social distancing but there can be different reasons as well (as the daily rotations to AYT and TZX are scheduled to operate on A321).
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:44 am

mict wrote:
TK adding flights from secondary Turkish airports to Europe for the summer: https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-29may20/

I am surprised ADB is only getting AMS.


I guess other destinations (particularly to German airports) from ADB will be covered by Sun Express.
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:01 pm

I am confused. TK is telling me that I have to be quarantained coming from the Netherlands but Kadri Samsunlu says in a new IGAirport video that passengers will be tested on arrival and let inside the country freely. So am I going to be tested and let free or quarantained? I am confused..
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:40 pm

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I am confused. TK is telling me that I have to be quarantained coming from the Netherlands but Kadri Samsunlu says in a new IGAirport video that passengers will be tested on arrival and let inside the country freely. So am I going to be tested and let free or quarantained? I am confused..


Where did you read this?

My movements have been severely restricted when on cargo flights, I would prefer to move around freely and not stuck to the airport hotel.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:40 am

Mystic wrote:
I am confused. TK is telling me that I have to be quarantained coming from the Netherlands but Kadri Samsunlu says in a new IGAirport video that passengers will be tested on arrival and let inside the country freely. So am I going to be tested and let free or quarantained? I am confused..

IMHO, they cannot have the adequate infrastructure to quarantine all international pax arriving to Turkey's airports, particularly IST & SAW. So, I think Smsunlu's comments re more valid. In the unlikely case that they start flights from highly infected towns, a quarantine for those flights my be possible.
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:44 am

New COVID protocol at TK includes a "Hygiene Crew Member" on board.
One of the responsibilities include "make sure people sitting next to each other take turns taking their masks off during meals"...
Just how are they ever going to implement that on a full 77W with 300 Y passengers?
I mean, all these protocols are nice to have on paper, but how is it going to work on a 14 hour ER flight?
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:17 pm

Hopefully BOS returns. That was a solid performer for TK.
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:04 pm

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Hopefully BOS returns. That was a solid performer for TK.

I am sure it will return. As of now, TK planing to reinstate USA flights last, probably beginning of September.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:00 pm

Just found this video of TK's IST-ESB flight (TC-LNG "Mersin", A330-300) from few days ago with some Government and TK officials on board. It is in TURKISH and Turkish SUBTITLES but the visuals are pretty good telling the story. There are many moments that physical distancing rules are not followed. Well, you be the judge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... e=emb_logo
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:39 pm

TK787 wrote:
ChrisNH38 wrote:
Hopefully BOS returns. That was a solid performer for TK.

I am sure it will return. As of now, TK planing to reinstate USA flights last, probably beginning of September.


That's a bummer - is there a list or announcement somewhere - when the flights opening destination wise?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:28 pm

The new rule for arrivals into Turkey is not enforced mandatory quarantine but self quarantine where you provide authorities your residence. So they will check your temperature / perform a test at the airport and if you have COVID-19 you will be segregated and quarantined, otherwise you will self quarantine at your location of stay.
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:49 pm

leftyboarder wrote:
The new rule for arrivals into Turkey is not enforced mandatory quarantine but self quarantine where you provide authorities your residence. So they will check your temperature / perform a test at the airport and if you have COVID-19 you will be segregated and quarantined, otherwise you will self quarantine at your location of stay.

I hear that pax get the test results in 2-3 hours. Where are they going to keep all these people waiting this long? Where are they going to quarantine the positives? What if the pax do not cooperate to be quarantined in Turkey??
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:57 pm

ASA wrote:
is there a list or announcement somewhere - when the flights opening destination wise?

Here is a link in Turkish, but this is old news and I do not have an updated one.
https://www.airporthaber.com/thy-haberl ... hazir.html
First destinations are for June, then July and then August.... (eventually everything got pushed one month, so look at it as JUL, AUG, SEP...)
On top of that, after this document came out, TK CEO said that USA will be last to be reinstated due to the severity of the COVID situation there.
Still, I have no idea how smoothly this is going to happen. We will see day by day I imagine.
Let's see what percentage of the public ready to fly, ready to transfer at IST.
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:19 pm

It seems that TK will restart DUB in July 3 x a week . Then 5 x a week in August and 7 x a week in September.
 
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Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:11 pm

TK787 wrote:
ChrisNH38 wrote:
Hopefully BOS returns. That was a solid performer for TK.

I am sure it will return. As of now, TK planing to reinstate USA flights last, probably beginning of September.


I have a LAX-IST round trip in August which has already been rescheduled 3 times. I really hope TK will start at least some of their US ops by mid August.
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Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:11 am

B747forever wrote:
TK787 wrote:
ChrisNH38 wrote:
Hopefully BOS returns. That was a solid performer for TK.

I am sure it will return. As of now, TK planing to reinstate USA flights last, probably beginning of September.


I have a LAX-IST round trip in August which has already been rescheduled 3 times. I really hope TK will start at least some of their US ops by mid August.


I have BOS-IST-DAC roundtrips for the whole family in August :(

Not sure if I should try to reschedule to December right now ...
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:13 am

It is nice to see some flights finally. As of now, 41 TK jets are in the air and 10 Pegasus jets. It is a start :)
 
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Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:00 pm

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It seems that TK will restart DUB in July 3 x a week . Then 5 x a week in August and 7 x a week in September.

Where did you find that? Their website shows double daily A321neo flights starting June 15th for me (with an afternoon flight on the 14th). (This post isn't meant to doubt you of course, I love reading your posts but I'm just curious to read more about this).
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:20 pm

Here is the latest:
TK is operating 250 flights today, carrying over 25,000 pax with 80%loads.

Here are the latest international flight dates: (From the Ministry of Transportation)
- June10th: N.R.Cyprus, Bahrain, Bulgaria, Qatar, Greece
- June 15th: Germany, Austria, Azerbaijan, Cech Republic, Croatia, Hong Kong, Switzerland, Japan, Macedonia, Lithuania, Hungary, Poland, Romania, Serbia, Singapore, Slovenia, Tajikistan
- June 20th: Holland, Kazakistan
- June 22nd: Albania, Bosnia, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, S.Korea, Ireland, Montenegro, Kyrgyzstan, Letonia, Luxemburg, Norway, Slovakia
- June 25th: Belgium
 
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Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:47 pm

AirbusA343 wrote:
OA260 wrote:
It seems that TK will restart DUB in July 3 x a week . Then 5 x a week in August and 7 x a week in September.

Where did you find that? Their website shows double daily A321neo flights starting June 15th for me (with an afternoon flight on the 14th). (This post isn't meant to doubt you of course, I love reading your posts but I'm just curious to read more about this).


It came from TK UK & Ireland offices. Obviously as per TK787 post these are subject to movement and government statements etc.. but I guess if its now 22/6 its near enough but could be amended again.
 
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Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:04 pm

B747forever wrote:
I have a LAX-IST round trip in August which has already been rescheduled 3 times. I really hope TK will start at least some of their US ops by mid August.


Buckle up; LAX and ORD will start next week. Third destination, IAD will be end on June. I will try confirm exact later today. No JFK flights near future.
 
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Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:38 pm

As always, anything can happen in Turkey :)
Just last minute, in the middle of the night, the government announced a weekend curfew in 15 cities including Istanbul, Ankara, Izmir and others...
What is going to happen to all those flights that were scheduled for this weekend?? :(
 
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Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:58 pm

YUL is restarting June 12th with a 789 allegedly. Going Sun-Tues-Fri
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation June 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:12 pm

The second A350 for TK has taking it's first flight https://a380.boards.net/thread/2479/a35 ... tk2?page=2 Do we know if TK will delay the deliveries of these A350's i know 5 were expected this year.
 
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Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:45 am

TK773ER wrote:
The second A350 for TK has taking it's first flight https://a380.boards.net/thread/2479/a35 ... tk2?page=2 Do we know if TK will delay the deliveries of these A350's i know 5 were expected this year.


Ilker Ayci said in a recent interview that they would take those who are ready (being built), and delay the rest. Same for the 787.
 
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Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:06 am

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As always, anything can happen in Turkey :)
Just last minute, in the middle of the night, the government announced a weekend curfew in 15 cities including Istanbul, Ankara, Izmir and others...
What is going to happen to all those flights that were scheduled for this weekend?? :(


Nothing will happen dear friend, because the President cancelled that weekend curfew decree some two hours ago, for "sentimental reasons, taking into deep considerations such as citizen's comfort and happiness".

In Turkey, we have got much used to such conflicting decision following one another! :evil: :banghead:

So, for this week-end, business will be as usual!
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Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:18 am

MoonC wrote:
TK773ER wrote:
The second A350 for TK has taking it's first flight https://a380.boards.net/thread/2479/a35 ... tk2?page=2 Do we know if TK will delay the deliveries of these A350's i know 5 were expected this year.


Ilker Ayci said in a recent interview that they would take those who are ready (being built), and delay the rest. Same for the 787.


Well, there are 2 completed A350s but I guess these will consist a too small fleet to operate economically. My guess is that they take those 5 frames planned for 2020 delivery but postpone the deliveries for the last quarter of 2020, or so.

As for the 789s: There already are 11 grounded frames in active fleet plus 2 more almost ready for delivery in the USA. But 13 is an "unlucky number," being superstitious. So I also guess they will top of these to 15 frames by the end of 2020.

Than there will be a rather long postponement period for both types. At the very very best, they make take delivery of only 3-5 additional A350s in 2021s.

The real questions marks are actually regarding the future of those long time grounded 737MAXs (both -8 & -9) in Turkey and USA. :roll:
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Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:19 am

MoonC wrote:
TK773ER wrote:
The second A350 for TK has taking it's first flight https://a380.boards.net/thread/2479/a35 ... tk2?page=2 Do we know if TK will delay the deliveries of these A350's i know 5 were expected this year.


Ilker Ayci said in a recent interview that they would take those who are ready (being built), and delay the rest. Same for the 787.


Well, there are 2 completed A350s but I guess these will consist a too small fleet to operate economically. My guess is that they take those 5 (or minimum 4) frames planned for 2020 delivery but postpone the deliveries of those remaining 2-3 for the last quarter of 2020, or so.

As for the 789s: There already are 11 grounded frames in active fleet plus 2 more almost ready for delivery in the USA. But 13 is an "unlucky number," being superstitious. So I also guess they will top of these to 15 frames by the end of 2020.

Than there will be a rather long postponement period for both types. At the very very best, they make take delivery of only 3-5 additional A350s in 2021s.

The real questions marks are actually regarding the future of those long time grounded 737MAXs (both -8 & -9) in Turkey and USA. :roll:
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Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:27 pm

Does anyone know when they will load the frequencies for the destinations they are resuming? I noticed BEG is still as two daily which won't obviously happen.
 
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Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:13 pm

MoonC wrote:
TK773ER wrote:
The second A350 for TK has taking it's first flight https://a380.boards.net/thread/2479/a35 ... tk2?page=2 Do we know if TK will delay the deliveries of these A350's i know 5 were expected this year.


Ilker Ayci said in a recent interview that they would take those who are ready (being built), and delay the rest. Same for the 787.


Any insight which business class seats the A350s are delivered with: the same seats as on the 787s or rumoured new seats?
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Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:07 pm

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B747forever wrote:
I have a LAX-IST round trip in August which has already been rescheduled 3 times. I really hope TK will start at least some of their US ops by mid August.


Buckle up; LAX and ORD will start next week. Third destination, IAD will be end on June. I will try confirm exact later today. No JFK flights near future.


Loaded in booking system now. LAX, ORD and IAD starting 3 weekly in the second half of June (all 3 destinations will operate M, W, F). July and August schedule not loaded yet (still has full pre-covid schedules)
 
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Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:23 am

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MeCe wrote:
B747forever wrote:
I have a LAX-IST round trip in August which has already been rescheduled 3 times. I really hope TK will start at least some of their US ops by mid August.


Buckle up; LAX and ORD will start next week. Third destination, IAD will be end on June. I will try confirm exact later today. No JFK flights near future.


Loaded in booking system now. LAX, ORD and IAD starting 3 weekly in the second half of June (all 3 destinations will operate M, W, F). July and August schedule not loaded yet (still has full pre-covid schedules)


Thanks for the replies. Do you have a date for when the July and August schedules will be released?
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Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:43 am

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mict wrote:
MeCe wrote:

Buckle up; LAX and ORD will start next week. Third destination, IAD will be end on June. I will try confirm exact later today. No JFK flights near future.


Loaded in booking system now. LAX, ORD and IAD starting 3 weekly in the second half of June (all 3 destinations will operate M, W, F). July and August schedule not loaded yet (still has full pre-covid schedules)


Thanks for the replies. Do you have a date for when the July and August schedules will be released?


My guess would be in ~2 weeks for July and then August schedule sometimes in mid July. It's a rapidly evolving situation so airlines are being cautious on making changes.
 
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Sat Jun 06, 2020 2:56 am

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mict wrote:
MeCe wrote:

Buckle up; LAX and ORD will start next week. Third destination, IAD will be end on June. I will try confirm exact later today. No JFK flights near future.


Loaded in booking system now. LAX, ORD and IAD starting 3 weekly in the second half of June (all 3 destinations will operate M, W, F). July and August schedule not loaded yet (still has full pre-covid schedules)


Thanks for the replies. Do you have a date for when the July and August schedules will be released?


Sorry I could not update, pretty busy today. Prediction is 19th June, MIA may be added. July and August unclear for now.
 
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Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:31 am

mict wrote:
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mict wrote:

Loaded in booking system now. LAX, ORD and IAD starting 3 weekly in the second half of June (all 3 destinations will operate M, W, F). July and August schedule not loaded yet (still has full pre-covid schedules)


Thanks for the replies. Do you have a date for when the July and August schedules will be released?


My guess would be in ~2 weeks for July and then August schedule sometimes in mid July. It's a rapidly evolving situation so airlines are being cautious on making changes.

From my experience last year, TK seemed to update the schedule for the following month on the 15th. So on the 15th of June, they should update the schedule for July and on the 15th of July, they should update the schedule for August. That could've changed since then though, especially due to the current difficulties.

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Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos