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Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:47 am

Welcome to Indian Aviation Thread for June 2020. Please continue your discussion and to add your comments here.

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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:52 am

TOP 10 O&D COUNTRIES OF BLR for FEB 2020 with Pax Growth YoY

1) USA (-1%)
2) UAE (+22%)
3) THAILAND (-7%)
4) UK (10%)
5) SAUDI ARABIA (+22%)
6) SINGAPORE (-43%)
7) SRI LANKA (-7%)
8) GERMANY (-7%)
9) MALAYSIA (-9%)
10) AUSTRALIA (-12%)



TOP 10 Destination Cities of BLR for Feb 2020 with Pax Growth YoY

1) DXB (+20%)
2) LHR (+11%)
3) SIN (-43%)
4) CMB (-7%)
5) BKK (-30%)
6) JED (+30%)
7) HKT (+44%)
8) KUL (-6%)
9) MLE (-1%)
10) MCT (-2%)
11) SFO (-16%)


BLR TOP 10 O&D Markets of BLR (March 2019-Feb 2020; Data for Sri Lanka and Nepal NOT avbl)

1) USA
2) UAE
3) THAILAND
4) SINGAPORE
5) UK
6) SAUDI ARABIA
7) MALAYSIA
8) GERMANY
9) AUSTRALIA
10) MALDIVES


Source= Airport-IS
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:57 am

TOP 10 O&D CITIES OF BLR for the Year Ending FEB 2019

1) DXB
2) SIN
3) BKK
4) LHR
5) HKT
6) KUL
7) JED
8) SFO
9) MLE
10) HKG


Source= Airport IS
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:11 am

EL AL ISRAEL B789 'JERUSALEM OF GOLD\ LIVERY AT BLR, Repatriation flight
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ASIANA AIRLINES B772 at BLR, repatriation flight to Seoul, South Korea
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:20 pm

With all the sad state of affairs everywhere and a pandemic raging on, one good thing that has come out of this is definitely some cool airlines visiting places they never would have otherwise.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:35 am

sand26391 wrote:

TOP 10 O&D COUNTRIES OF BLR for FEB 2020 with Pax Growth YoY
1) USA (-1%)
10) AUSTRALIA (-12%)


TOP 10 Destination Cities of BLR for Feb 2020 with Pax Growth YoY
11) SFO (-16%)


BLR TOP 10 O&D Markets of BLR (March 2019-Feb 2020; Data for Sri Lanka and Nepal NOT avbl)
1) USA
9) AUSTRALIA




sand26391 wrote:
TOP 10 O&D CITIES OF BLR for the Year Ending FEB 2019
8) SFO


As always Thanks!! for the numbers. Interesting that while USA and Oz are top 10 O&D countries, SFO (at #8??) is the only US city to break into the top 10 O&D cities and no SYD/MEL in top 10 O&D? Looks like USA traffic is very fragmented. Makes you wonder if:
1. USA-BLR n/s potential is lower than estimated (at least for the time being) and
2. AA was betting SEA-BLR almost entirely on AS feed?

Most interesting to see what the USA breakdown is - both for absolute #s and %.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:53 am

Yes the BLR-SFO pax numbers are ~128,000 O&D. From what I know and hear is that AA made some kind of deal with BIAL and few other partners. From what I know, BIAL top staff met AA,DL,UA & AC in Late Jan 2020 in the US & Canada & all of them gave a positive response & AA jumped the gun to announce BLR-SEA. Also hear ~30% of the inaugural seats were booked b4 postponing the flight to OCT 21. BLR-USA is definitely more fragmented with ~50% being Premium traffic.
AA was targeting South India-SEA market ~120,000 pax with their BLR flight. Another reason I hear was the 'abundant' number of domestic connections at BLR. They even looked at HYD, but dropped due to poor yields..,

Also please note, the top 10 I've mentioned are both SERVED & UNSERVED destinations from BLR. If you want the UNSERVED cities and countries REGION wise, I shall Post that too.

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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:41 am

TOP UN-SERVED DESTINATIONS ex BLR look like this... (Not in any particular order):-

SFO, JFK, LAX, YYZ, NRT, ORD, SYD, MEL, DFW, PVG.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:42 am

sand26391 wrote:
TOP UN-SERVED DESTINATIONS ex BLR look like this... (Not in any particular order):-

SFO, JFK, LAX, YYZ, NRT, ORD, SYD, MEL, DFW, PVG.


Who's going between BLR and PVG? With such limited ties between the countries and 4 flights a week total? (Maybe 7), I'm surprised PVG would be on the list.
2020: SFO DFW IAH HOU CLT MEX BIS MIA GUA ORD DTW LGA BOS LHR DUB BFS BHD STN OAK PHL ISP JFK SJC DEN SJU LAS TXL GDL
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:38 am

^^ Most of BLR pax fly to China via HKG with KA as there is NO non stop or direct flight connecting BLR with China. The following analysis will give some insight into the PVG BLR market..

https://www.anna.aero/2020/05/26/bangal ... a-eastern/
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:12 pm

airboss787 wrote:
With all the sad state of affairs everywhere and a pandemic raging on, one good thing that has come out of this is definitely some cool airlines visiting places they never would have otherwise.

Both the Asiana and Israel airlines have regular flights to mumbai.
Asiana stopped its flight to India last year.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:03 pm

sand26391 wrote:
TOP 10 O&D CITIES OF BLR for the Year Ending FEB 2019

1) DXB
2) SIN
3) BKK
4) LHR
5) HKT
6) KUL
7) JED
8) SFO
9) MLE
10) HKG


Source= Airport IS


Interesting that HKT (Phuket) is ahead of Doha, Abu Dhabi and Muscat, which don't even show up in top 10 and also no city in Germany is in top 10. Just like the USA market, the Germany market appears to be fragmented as well. I am also wondering if USA market is so fragmented that it will be difficult to serve BLR from any one city except may be NY area with onward connections.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:34 pm

^^ These cities if you notice, SHOWS only the SERVED destinations from BLR. The Top 10 Unserved routes of BLR include 5 US cities, 2 AUS cities and 2 Asian cities and 1 Canadian city.

HKT surge (150,000+ O&D pax) is due to the 13x weekly flights by 6E and G8, the sector one of the most successful route launches of BLR history and gets a good number of connection/transfer traffic from cities such as MAA/COK/CJB/TRV/IXE/PNQ/BBI/VTZ etc via BLR to HKT.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:56 pm

Super Excited to share that yet again Im blessed to be the first and Only plane spotter from my city to have spotted the KUWAIT AIRWAYS A330-243 9K-APB today as it came for the very first time on a repatriation sector from Kuwait to Lucknow.

Though a few days ago I spotted JAZEERA AIRWAYS A320Neos on consecutive four days ( 9K-CBB,CBD,CBE,CBE ) but it seems there are way too many UP'ites in Kuwait so finally the widebody came in with 275 pax all together.

Its Super great to finally see a Widebody after such a long time at my base !! I hope once things return to normal, Kuwait Airways Considers starting flights to my base given Saudia Already flies their 333s daily and theres also a huge concentration of UP'ites there ,however, I reckon it would be possible once the T3 at my base gets completed it would be easier for AAI to give nod to more airlines !
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:29 pm

maint123 wrote:
airboss787 wrote:
With all the sad state of affairs everywhere and a pandemic raging on, one good thing that has come out of this is definitely some cool airlines visiting places they never would have otherwise.

Both the Asiana and Israel airlines have regular flights to mumbai.
Asiana stopped its flight to India last year.


Asiana flew to Delhi and El Al flies to Mumbai but that's not what I was talking about. I was responding to the pictures above my post about both of them getting their A350 and 787 respectively to BLR, both of which otherwise rarely come to India. Asiana never had it scheduled to Delhi and El Al sporadically gets it to BOM.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:24 pm

IndiGo Parent InterGlobe Aviation Posts Rs 871 Crore Loss In Fourth Quarter.
-Will accelerate retirement of A320ceo aircraft.
- Will use 10 aircraft for pure cargo ops (i.e cargo on seat)
-To trim employee cost by having LwP and salary cuts.

https://m.economictimes.com/industry/tr ... 159130.cms
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:25 pm

anybody knows if the middle seat is gonna be vacant or not. The civil aviation minister gave two different statements which have two different meanings. One doesn't know what is going to be, can anybody tell me if there has been any notice or how things are supposed to be. I know that not many people are taking the flight domestically, both due to fear as well as the 14-day lockdown after a flight, which makes many a flight unusable. For e.g. if I wanted to go to a conference and attend. The conference would say end by 2-3 days at the most but I would need to extend my stay in that city for couple of weeks before I can fly back to my own city. I do understand the logic of it, it's the time and economic feasibility that is the issue.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:13 am

I have been seeing some Pictures on the net of the speculated PM "AIR INDIA ONE" 777 - 300ER it seems its VT-ALW or ALV or somethin like that I have also seen VT-ALW doing a flight between San Bernardino and Fort Worth on June 2.

Though Im sure I have seen VT-ALW in AIR INDIA colours,though Im not sure if thats been modified by the boeing folks.

As per the photos it looks like a dull white plane with India and Bharat written in Hindi with an Ashoka Chakra in between and Tricolour Stripes underneath windows and a rectangular Indian flag on the tail....Well It could be a photoshopped photo as well..However if anyone here knows anythin related to this news and its validity then plz lemme know !

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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:29 pm

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^^ These cities if you notice, SHOWS only the SERVED destinations from BLR. The Top 10 Unserved routes of BLR include 5 US cities, 2 AUS cities and 2 Asian cities and 1 Canadian city.

HKT surge (150,000+ O&D pax) is due to the 13x weekly flights by 6E and G8, the sector one of the most successful route launches of BLR history and gets a good number of connection/transfer traffic from cities such as MAA/COK/CJB/TRV/IXE/PNQ/BBI/VTZ etc via BLR to HKT.

When you say "served" you mean there is a flight which connects the two cities yeah? So are you considering SFO as "served" because of the AI173/174 tag?
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:55 pm

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anybody knows if the middle seat is gonna be vacant or not. The civil aviation minister gave two different statements which have two different meanings. One doesn't know what is going to be, can anybody tell me if there has been any notice or how things are supposed to be. I know that not many people are taking the flight domestically, both due to fear as well as the 14-day lockdown after a flight, which makes many a flight unusable. For e.g. if I wanted to go to a conference and attend. The conference would say end by 2-3 days at the most but I would need to extend my stay in that city for couple of weeks before I can fly back to my own city. I do understand the logic of it, it's the time and economic feasibility that is the issue.


For business travelers, those who can show negative Covid 19 certificate do not have to quarantine at the destination city. They should apply the same logic for all passengers and may as well extend this to international too.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:42 pm

VTORD wrote:
sand26391 wrote:
^^ These cities if you notice, SHOWS only the SERVED destinations from BLR. The Top 10 Unserved routes of BLR include 5 US cities, 2 AUS cities and 2 Asian cities and 1 Canadian city.

HKT surge (150,000+ O&D pax) is due to the 13x weekly flights by 6E and G8, the sector one of the most successful route launches of BLR history and gets a good number of connection/transfer traffic from cities such as MAA/COK/CJB/TRV/IXE/PNQ/BBI/VTZ etc via BLR to HKT.

When you say "served" you mean there is a flight which connects the two cities yeah? So are you considering SFO as "served" because of the AI173/174 tag?


The SFO numbers include AI's 174/173 flight, but the contribution of AI's flight to the SFO numbers posted above is less than 5%.
The SFO numbers captured are more of pax flying with the likes of EK, AF, LH,QR,BA,KA which contribute to majority of the numbers.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:43 pm

Second Kuwait Airways Repatriation Flight to LKO Today again it was A330-243 again but this time it was 9K-APD ! Also Kuwait Airways sent its A320 to Vijayawada as well.

Dunno why GOI made no mentions about the Indians being flown by the Kuwait Government and their aircrafts ? So many Indians strandes abroad must be wandering on the dull Air India website for no use,had they known about Other Airlines making flying arrangements to their cities there wont be so much mess on twitter and other social media people begging for seats.

But then thats just how GOI works I believe !
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:23 am

POSSIBLE WORLD RECORD UPDATE !!

It seems Air India has decided to make World Record of the Longest Flight ever by an A320Neo

As per what I see on Radar an Air India A320-251N is on the way to TEUREL,Spain Flight No.AI3831 from DEL and the possible flight time is over 8 Hours.Its most likely a repatriation flight to Spain.

Now I have never seen an A320N fly this long ..I mean I may be wrong and there could be other airlines flying 320Ns in long haul..But if someone has any info regarding this do lemme know !

Fanx !
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:29 am

A TRAGEDY THAT IS PATNA AIRPORT

Though Im from LKO and I love my Home base,however,recent news concerning the lack of VANDE BHARAT Flights to PAT and outrage of Biharis stranded in Mid East has compelled me to adress this issue with my fellow Indian Aviation geek community.I watched a video of a pergnant woman who claimed she was denied boarding on SHJ - LKO Flight,reason being she was not a native of UP and she was told that she would be only allowed once the flight leaves for GAYA.Though I agree with athourities that natives of certain states should be directly flown to their home states for mitigating the risk of further virus propogation and putting burden on landing states for arranging the transportation the neighbouring citizens.


Now That led me to do a little research about the infrastructure at Patna (Airport),which also happens to be the Capital of my East neighbouring state.It has compelled me to adress this issue for its sheer tragedy that a capital of a state has a tiny airstrip of a RWY ( 6,800 FT) that even 320s and 737s are hard to land let alone ever imagining a widebody Aircraft.The nearest and ONLY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT in the state is GAYA whose RWY Length is about 2,200Meters or 7,500 Feet which isnt enough for WB operstions however,it does get seasonal Intl 320s,21s and 738s for not only the runway but GAY also has a better terminal infrastructure than PAT.

Hundreds and thousands of Biharis stranded in Mid East during this pandemic have been begging the GOI to start flights to PAT however only a few flights have been arranged and that too to GAY not PAT.I have seen many folks arguing why not PAT ? given that everyone wants to reach their home city or town or the closest Airport to it...I too wonered why couldnt GOI just arrange flights directly to PAT when it can regularly manage 320s and 738s anyways ?

After going little deep into my research I understood why GOI or any airlines for that matter CAN'T,even if they want to,repatriate Biharis to their capital city and that is because not only the RWY Length but the overall infrastructure thats needed for a successfull INTL operations is ENTIRELY ABSENT at PAT

The Parking bay is cramped with just bare space to accomodate 6 320s or 738s and the terminal building literally gives a look of what early Indian airports were like back in the 90s.The terminal barely has space to accomodate domestic pax and flights that now I understand why its a nightmare to even think of an INTL flight ops to and fro there.

The location of the Airport itself is so that no further expansion can be done as far as the RWY Length is concerned given its sandwiched between a Railway line and the Zoo.The Terminal area can be renovated but it seems theres not much room for that either and parking bay can further be expanded about a little less than 300 Meters to the West but all in all it looks like Bihar's Capital city may never get INTL Flight ops and if it does it may be limited persistent.

Finally I believe whose ever idea it was to sandwich the NAMESAKE Capital airport between the main railway tracks and a Zoo definitely will be remembered forever for this immortal tragedy of Indian aviation !
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:27 am

FligtReporter wrote:
POSSIBLE WORLD RECORD UPDATE !!

It seems Air India has decided to make World Record of the Longest Flight ever by an A320Neo

As per what I see on Radar an Air India A320-251N is on the way to TEUREL,Spain Flight No.AI3831 from DEL and the possible flight time is over 8 Hours.Its most likely a repatriation flight to Spain.

Now I have never seen an A320N fly this long ..I mean I may be wrong and there could be other airlines flying 320Ns in long haul..But if someone has any info regarding this do lemme know !

Fanx !


I have a feeling it could be an error. No reason why they would have repatriation flights to Teruel and not Madrid or Barcelona. They would most likely also send a 787.
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Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:38 am

airboss787 wrote:
FligtReporter wrote:
POSSIBLE WORLD RECORD UPDATE !!

It seems Air India has decided to make World Record of the Longest Flight ever by an A320Neo

As per what I see on Radar an Air India A320-251N is on the way to TEUREL,Spain Flight No.AI3831 from DEL and the possible flight time is over 8 Hours.Its most likely a repatriation flight to Spain.

Now I have never seen an A320N fly this long ..I mean I may be wrong and there could be other airlines flying 320Ns in long haul..But if someone has any info regarding this do lemme know !

Fanx !


I have a feeling it could be an error. No reason why they would have repatriation flights to Teruel and not Madrid or Barcelona. They would most likely also send a 787.


Yeah I think your right Mr.787 I just checked and the said 320 isnt appearin on Radar nomore :(

A tech error Indeed it appears !
 
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Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:05 am

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A TRAGEDY THAT IS PATNA AIRPORT
The location of the Airport itself is so that no further expansion can be done as far as the RWY Length is concerned given its sandwiched between a Railway line and the Zoo.The Terminal area can be renovated but it seems theres not much room for that either and parking bay can further be expanded about a little less than 300 Meters to the West but all in all it looks like Bihar's Capital city may never get INTL Flight ops and if it does it may be limited persistent.

Finally I believe whose ever idea it was to sandwich the NAMESAKE Capital airport between the main railway tracks and a Zoo definitely will be remembered forever for this immortal tragedy of Indian aviation !


AAI is building a civil enclave at the Indian Air Force Station at Bihta, which is around 30 kms from Patna, to supplement operations at PAT. The IAF airfield currently has a 8000 foot runway and AAI is acquiring land to extend it past 11000 feet. The civil enclave is expected to be completed by next year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bihta_Air_Force_Station
 
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Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:56 am

trinidadeG wrote:
FligtReporter wrote:
A TRAGEDY THAT IS PATNA AIRPORT
The location of the Airport itself is so that no further expansion can be done as far as the RWY Length is concerned given its sandwiched between a Railway line and the Zoo.The Terminal area can be renovated but it seems theres not much room for that either and parking bay can further be expanded about a little less than 300 Meters to the West but all in all it looks like Bihar's Capital city may never get INTL Flight ops and if it does it may be limited persistent.

Finally I believe whose ever idea it was to sandwich the NAMESAKE Capital airport between the main railway tracks and a Zoo definitely will be remembered forever for this immortal tragedy of Indian aviation !


AAI is building a civil enclave at the Indian Air Force Station at Bihta, which is around 30 kms from Patna, to supplement operations at PAT. The IAF airfield currently has a 8000 foot runway and AAI is acquiring land to extend it past 11000 feet. The civil enclave is expected to be completed by next year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bihta_Air_Force_Station


As per Ground sources from Patna the runway length at Bihta which is just over 8000 feet cant be extended on neither Mustafapur side ( Towards West ) nor sarfarudinpur ( Towards East ) side as there are Mosques of these two villages along with populations and also there wont be space enough for airport boundary so 11,000 Feet is something the GOI has given a big hocus pocus to the people who prolly dont uderstand the tech of aviation world....Wont become reality ever.

Because No way on earth they can shift the whole villages and that too Multiple Mosques on both ends...Thats enough of a proof for me that at least in this existence of this earth that runway wont be extended we know how temples and mosques can change things in this country.

Though the RWY of 8000 feet should be better than what currently PAT has which is hardly 6000 FT..So at least 8000 FT will comfortably accomodate 321s and 320s,738s of international airlines like Oman,Flydubai,Etihad etc...However given that its an IAF operated aerodrome I dont expect much INTL movement cause we all know how the scenario is for PNQ which has much more scope for INTL Operations yet its Civil operations are constrained due to the regulations of IAF.

So Im sure GAY is gonna serve as Default Patna International airport for at least a 1000 years !

The reason I wrote such a long post is because such poor planing of airport infrastructure is beyond my logical comprehension..just a month ago I had written about somewat simillar plight of PNQ which is far more bigger of a tragedy than PAT.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:00 am

An Indigo aircraft has had a mishap with some passenger stairs

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An Indigo aircraft has had a mishap with some passenger stairs

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https://twitter.com/JournoDannyAero/sta ... 08544?s=20


Oh Damn !! That doesnt look good !
 
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Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:26 pm

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The SFO numbers include AI's 174/173 flight, but the contribution of AI's flight to the SFO numbers posted above is less than 5%.
The SFO numbers captured are more of pax flying with the likes of EK, AF, LH,QR,BA,KA which contribute to majority of the numbers.

Thanks! the numbers make a lot more sense when you put it like that. :thumbsup: I wish we could get such numbers from BOM / DEL....
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:04 am

What an apathy by the GOI that its not fully helping out the stranded folks from my state as per their Vande Bharat mission.Since the inception of the so called Evacuation Mission only 1 Flight from RUH to LKO has flown and that too the tiny 320N where there is a much more higher demand for more flights or either they use 788s or 772s to get more UPites in just 2 or so flights but they seem to be ignoring it deliberately.

Given the fact that LKO - KSA( JED & LKO ) Pre Chinese Virus era used to have DAILY FULL FLIGHTS on Airbus A33O-343( D,R) Version which seats 298 & 330 Pax.As all this mission is turned now into a VANDE DECCAN misison or somethin.

And thats just KSA forget about the rest of ME where there have been no flights from, except the one last month from SHJ to LKO.

The Kuwait Government seems to be more friendly to us than our own Government that they sent over 1300 UPites on ( 2 KU 330-243 flights & 5 J9 320Ns flights ).Some Good folks charterd FlyDubai 738s and Etihad 321s to send back stranded fellas from DXB and AUH to not only my base but also to VNS.

Hopeless and Futile GOI as expected.
 
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Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:38 am

Please stick to the topic of Indian aviation on this thread. Discussion of politics, immigration, and diplomatic relations should be taken to the non-aviation forum.
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Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:56 am

Today IndiGo Operated 4 Evac flights from my base -:
1.LKO - KWI 320N
2.LKO - MCT 320N
3.LKO - DMM 320
4.LKO - KWI 320N

A few days ago I saw an IndiGo evac flight from MCT to LKO ..Im not sure if 6E is included in the Vande Bharat mission or not because I dont see any mention of these flights anywhere in the Schedule of Vande Bharat list as all of them are AI flights.

Or the best I can assume is that these are chartered flights by companies based in Oman,Kuwait,KSA.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:16 pm

On Flightradar24, AI is flying from a lot of non regular airports (on AI network).. right now there is a flight from Amsterdam, Brussels etc.. plus the Vande bharat is scheduled from a lot of other such airports..

How nice would it be for AI to be flying regularly there (offcourse they have to be managed professionally first before opening new ports)
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:15 am

unnayan wrote:
On Flightradar24, AI is flying from a lot of non regular airports (on AI network).. right now there is a flight from Amsterdam, Brussels etc.. plus the Vande bharat is scheduled from a lot of other such airports..

How nice would it be for AI to be flying regularly there (offcourse they have to be managed professionally first before opening new ports)


Yeah it would be great...But also Dont think would be viable though for regular ops :)
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:59 pm

Can someone explain the AI DEL-YYZ flights operating as AI-187? Repatriation flights?

I was out walking the dog and caught the beautiful AI 77W in the morning soft sunlight. Beautiful sight.

Looking at FR24, I see it flew on the 9th, 12th and today and shows a code share with UL as UL-3640
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:58 pm

golfradio wrote:
Can someone explain the AI DEL-YYZ flights operating as AI-187? Repatriation flights?

I was out walking the dog and caught the beautiful AI 77W in the morning soft sunlight. Beautiful sight.

Looking at FR24, I see it flew on the 9th, 12th and today and shows a code share with UL as UL-3640


https://www.mea.gov.in/vande-bharat-mis ... lights.htm

AI-187 may be either a positioning flight or a repatriation flight for Canadian citizens.
AI-188 is a repatriation flight for Indian citizens and permitted residents to Delhi and then on a domestic tag from there.
The flights run pretty much daily till the end of June.

AI-1142 is a repatriation flight to Mumbai from Toronto, again with a domestic tag.

AI-1144 is the Vancouver repatriation flight to Delhi with the usual domestic tag thereafter.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:31 am

Finally Blessed to have spotted a Widebody after almost a month...Today Morning an OMAN AIR
A330-300
A40-DI
(WY2261) made a visual approach at RWY 09 of my base from Muscat

Its a sheer serendipity that I spotted this bird cause theres a very intresting story behind it..Just tonight I was having a dream of a Qantas A330 at my base and as I woke up I realized it was a dream but then I just checked on my FR24 ( For some folks say Early mornin dreams sometimes become true ) and Saw the Big OMAN AIR 333 approaching RWY 09 and I rushed to the fourt floor of my place as fast as I could to spot it...AND LOVED to finally have it on camera !! In this rush I even happend to get a cut on my elbow and bruise one of my toe but it was all worth it :bouncy:

Usually Oman Air Flies 738s twice daily on schedule days but they probably wanna get as many folks back in as less trips as possible so they used this Big Birdie to my base.Im not sure if there r gonna be more Flights of Oman Air like Kuwait Airways ,however,I will keep tracking the movements in and around my base in the near future.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:57 am

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If you know anyone from my State or City stranded in UAE and wishing to return then kindly pass on this message to them.Tickets can be booked by visiting Air Arabia Offices or contact their Local Call Center for bookings !!
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:14 pm

Surprised why no one here is talking about Mr Gaurav Taneja, the much loved youtuber pilot who has been terminated by AirAsia India for raising safety issues

https://youtu.be/zSuDRcu15H0

https://mobile.twitter.com/flyingbeast320?lang=en

Watch the above YouTube video to know in detail and visit his twitter. #BoycottAirAsia is #1 trending on India twitter now. I as a passenger will never fly AirAsia until they answer the questions raised by Mr Gaurav Taneja and give him justice.

A big slap on the face of DGCA, BCAS and so on and aviation safety in India.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:21 pm

Rightly so, this is the worst PR disaster I have seen any Indian airline face ever. They deserve every bit if it.

If they don't fix their issues, they will a 100% surely lose their pax. They are already under investigation for financial irregularities.

Just look at the posts under # BoycottAirAsiaIndia hashtag
https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%23 ... rend_click
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:59 am

I am making a new topic for the AirAsia issue as its a international airlines and its a safety issue. Pl contribute their.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:51 am

maint123 wrote:
I am making a new topic for the AirAsia issue as its a international airlines and its a safety issue. Pl contribute their.


But this refers specifically to Air Asia India and DGCA
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:11 pm

Mumbai Airport allows doubling of flights from tomorrow

Mumbai airport, India’s second busiest, has been allowed by the Maharashtra state government to handle 100 flight movements (50 arrivals and 50 departures) from Tuesday, even as cases in the city and state continue to rise. Airlines said they will increase flights to Mumbai, because of the high pent up demand for travel from the city.

There were representations from the Centre for the state to allow more flights. The Indian government on 24 May allowed airlines to operate less than a third of their capacity on resumption of operations. But while it allowed 216 flight movements (108 departures and 108 arrivals) for Mumbai, the state government curtailed it even further to 50 flight movements.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/in ... 391270.cms
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:03 pm

anshabhi wrote:
Rightly so, this is the worst PR disaster I have seen any Indian airline face ever. They deserve every bit if it.

If they don't fix their issues, they will a 100% surely lose their pax. They are already under investigation for financial irregularities.

Just look at the posts under # BoycottAirAsiaIndia hashtag
https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%23 ... rend_click


In one of my earlier posts, I questioned the Air Asia India's dubious financial situation, and the reasons for not allowing international ops for Air Asia India. India has too many airlines as it is and if Air Asia India goes down, it is no big loss.

However I don't think they will lose many passengers as long as they are cost competitive, as most passengers do not keep track of pilot issues unless there is an accident. I don't even know why Tata is still involved with this airline, as they already have Vistara, which is itself was still somewhat struggling (before this COVID crisis).
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:21 am

maint123 wrote:
I am making a new topic for the AirAsia issue as its a international airlines and its a safety issue. Pl contribute their.

Somehow I can't view that thread anymore.. is it deleted?
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:03 am

unnayan wrote:
maint123 wrote:
I am making a new topic for the AirAsia issue as its a international airlines and its a safety issue. Pl contribute their.

Somehow I can't view that thread anymore.. is it deleted?

I cannot find it either.. Seems like it's been deleted.

Anyway, I came across an article on the topic. Apart from looking into the allegations made in the video, it also addresses the HR point of view regarding employees sharing workplace details on social media.

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/busin ... 10161.html
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2020

Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:28 pm

trinidadeG wrote:

Anyway, I came across an article on the topic. Apart from looking into the allegations made in the video, it also addresses the HR point of view regarding employees sharing workplace details on social media.

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/busin ... 10161.html


Classic case of SM vigilante culture. I am sure there are 3 sides to this story: His side, Their side and the Truth so I will refrain from taking sides.

I am personally don't follow either his YT or Twitter channels but what I saw was trolls started building this massive "vigilante" safety campaign and unfortunately THAT was what it took for DGCA to act on it. The worst was that people who couldn't tell where a ruddy flap was located on an aircraft started trolling Air Asia for Flaps 3 landing!! I mean c'mon, if I knew what flaps setting the pilot used every single time a plane I was on landed, I'd be in the wrong profession. I am not sure what Air Asia does in it's SOPs or what other airlines do or don't, but I wonder if he's making himself unemployable by outing his employer like this.

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