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UA444
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When did UA retire their 737-222?

Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:55 am

When did UA retire their original 737-222s they bought new from Boeing in 1968-69? I know they retired the 737-200 completely Halloween 2001 due to 9/11, but those were the old FL 737-291s. By then the -222s were gone. I assumed they were retired in 1998 but I saw a photo of N9015U that said it was retired in 2000, which surprised me. That would be 32 years of service.
 
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Re: When did UA retire their 737-222?

Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:26 pm

Play with planespotters.net to see disposition of individual 737-222s in their database. You'll need a login to see the 737-222s specifically among the 737-200s.

https://www.planespotters.net/airline/United-Airlines
 
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Re: When did UA retire their 737-222?

Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:36 pm

UA444 wrote:
When did UA retire their original 737-222s they bought new from Boeing in 1968-69? I know they retired the 737-200 completely Halloween 2001 due to 9/11, but those were the old FL 737-291s. By then the -222s were gone. I assumed they were retired in 1998 but I saw a photo of N9015U that said it was retired in 2000, which surprised me. That would be 32 years of service.



I show N9015U last flight was 3/25/98. For many of the airplanes, there was a long period between the retirement date, and the date the airplane was disposed, making some of the website data less accurate. I would guess late 1998 for the -222s, and late 2001 for the -291s/-2A1s.
 
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Re: When did UA retire their 737-222?

Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:02 am

The -222 were gone by 99. The ex Frontier -291A/2A1A left November 1, 2001 in masse along with the 727 fleet due to 9/11.

MO11 wrote:
UA444 wrote:
When did UA retire their original 737-222s they bought new from Boeing in 1968-69? I know they retired the 737-200 completely Halloween 2001 due to 9/11, but those were the old FL 737-291s. By then the -222s were gone. I assumed they were retired in 1998 but I saw a photo of N9015U that said it was retired in 2000, which surprised me. That would be 32 years of service.



I show N9015U last flight was 3/25/98. For many of the airplanes, there was a long period between the retirement date, and the date the airplane was disposed, making some of the website data less accurate. I would guess late 1998 for the -222s, and late 2001 for the -291s/-2A1s.
 
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Re: When did UA retire their 737-222?

Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:15 am

N9001U, or the first 732(non-Adv) built, left UAL and entered service with Air Philippines as RP-C2021 around early 1997.
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Re: When did UA retire their 737-222?

Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:59 am

MO11 wrote:
UA444 wrote:
When did UA retire their original 737-222s they bought new from Boeing in 1968-69? I know they retired the 737-200 completely Halloween 2001 due to 9/11, but those were the old FL 737-291s. By then the -222s were gone. I assumed they were retired in 1998 but I saw a photo of N9015U that said it was retired in 2000, which surprised me. That would be 32 years of service.



I show N9015U last flight was 3/25/98. For many of the airplanes, there was a long period between the retirement date, and the date the airplane was disposed, making some of the website data less accurate. I would guess late 1998 for the -222s, and late 2001 for the -291s/-2A1s.

Small world... When I was a kid we took some visiting family to ONT to go home. ONT gates were all outside hardstands back then. The plane they flew home on was N9015U.... I kept track of that sort of thing even then...
 
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Re: When did UA retire their 737-222?

Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:59 pm

Tangentially-related to this, it looks like the last 737-200 of any kind owned by UA had an exit date of August 2011. Did it really sit for 10 years before being given new life?

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... ana/38y94r
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Re: When did UA retire their 737-222?

Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:21 pm

DeltaRules wrote:
Tangentially-related to this, it looks like the last 737-200 of any kind owned by UA had an exit date of August 2011. Did it really sit for 10 years before being given new life?

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... ana/38y94r

I remember seeing one in full UA colors in VCV in 2007. Somehow the owner must’ve really wanted to hang on to it and then waited until someone called.
 
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Re: When did UA retire their 737-222?

Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:05 pm

DeltaRules wrote:
Tangentially-related to this, it looks like the last 737-200 of any kind owned by UA had an exit date of August 2011. Did it really sit for 10 years before being given new life?

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... ana/38y94r


Looks like it really did sit in the desert in full colors all that time:



Was flown out with just basic titles whited out:

 
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Re: When did UA retire their 737-222?

Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:17 pm

I flew EWR-DCA-MIA-ORD-EWR and got a UAL System Timetable Guide at ORD at one of the ticketing counters in 2/2000. The 737-200, 727-200, 747-200, 747-100, DC-10-10, & DC-10-30 all had UAL seating maps in that huge booklet. So I would guess final retirement was late 2000 or early 2001, unless UA just kept them in there for reference post retirement.
 
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Re: When did UA retire their 737-222?

Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:25 pm

DeltaRules wrote:
Tangentially-related to this, it looks like the last 737-200 of any kind owned by UA had an exit date of August 2011. Did it really sit for 10 years before being given new life?

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... ana/38y94r


No, this airplane was retired by UA at the end of 2001, moved to Victorville, and eventually sold in August 2005. It left Victorville June 30, 2011 for its next adventure in Venezuela.
 
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Re: When did UA retire their 737-222?

Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:28 pm

n7371f wrote:
The -222 were gone by 99. The ex Frontier -291A/2A1A left November 1, 2001 in masse along with the 727 fleet due to 9/11.

MO11 wrote:
UA444 wrote:
When did UA retire their original 737-222s they bought new from Boeing in 1968-69? I know they retired the 737-200 completely Halloween 2001 due to 9/11, but those were the old FL 737-291s. By then the -222s were gone. I assumed they were retired in 1998 but I saw a photo of N9015U that said it was retired in 2000, which surprised me. That would be 32 years of service.



I show N9015U last flight was 3/25/98. For many of the airplanes, there was a long period between the retirement date, and the date the airplane was disposed, making some of the website data less accurate. I would guess late 1998 for the -222s, and late 2001 for the -291s/-2A1s.


I started as an FA in 9/98 and I believe the -222s had been revised out of our manuals by my start date, and I only touched the -291As and -2A1As on the line. The -222s were very different from a flight attendant perspective because they had the old thermal trays rather than the retrofitted "new tech carts" as the -291As and -2A1As had. The transition out for the final -222s was in the fall of 1998, though, as I did have a thermal tray training class. It often takes training curricula a bit to catch up, as they leave course material in just in case they reactivate newly retired airplanes before they actually ferry off the property.
 
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Re: When did UA retire their 737-222?

Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:10 pm

TW870 wrote:
n7371f wrote:
The -222 were gone by 99. The ex Frontier -291A/2A1A left November 1, 2001 in masse along with the 727 fleet due to 9/11.

MO11 wrote:


I show N9015U last flight was 3/25/98. For many of the airplanes, there was a long period between the retirement date, and the date the airplane was disposed, making some of the website data less accurate. I would guess late 1998 for the -222s, and late 2001 for the -291s/-2A1s.


I started as an FA in 9/98 and I believe the -222s had been revised out of our manuals by my start date, and I only touched the -291As and -2A1As on the line. The -222s were very different from a flight attendant perspective because they had the old thermal trays rather than the retrofitted "new tech carts" as the -291As and -2A1As had. The transition out for the final -222s was in the fall of 1998, though, as I did have a thermal tray training class. It often takes training curricula a bit to catch up, as they leave course material in just in case they reactivate newly retired airplanes before they actually ferry off the property.


What is a thermal tray?
 
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Re: When did UA retire their 737-222?

Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:04 pm

I rode these many times between ORD and SBN.
 
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Re: When did UA retire their 737-222?

Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:20 pm

Weatherwatcher1 wrote:
TW870 wrote:
n7371f wrote:
The -222 were gone by 99. The ex Frontier -291A/2A1A left November 1, 2001 in masse along with the 727 fleet due to 9/11.



I started as an FA in 9/98 and I believe the -222s had been revised out of our manuals by my start date, and I only touched the -291As and -2A1As on the line. The -222s were very different from a flight attendant perspective because they had the old thermal trays rather than the retrofitted "new tech carts" as the -291As and -2A1As had. The transition out for the final -222s was in the fall of 1998, though, as I did have a thermal tray training class. It often takes training curricula a bit to catch up, as they leave course material in just in case they reactivate newly retired airplanes before they actually ferry off the property.


What is a thermal tray?


Since there were no ovens for the economy class cabin, all meals were boarded in these stacked, bundled, thermally insulated trays in a closet in the back of the airplane. The 737-200 originally flew lots of short, milk-run type trips when it was introduced into the fleet in the late-1960s and 1970s, so they opted not to take up cabin space with traditional tray carts and ovens. The thermal trays were a workaround for the times when the airplane ended up on longer segments during meal times. Since they bought the -291As and -2A1As used later on, they outfitted them to the state of the art of the late-1980s, which was the "new tech" cart, an integrated system that cooked the entrees on hotplates inside the cart. This eliminated the need for coach ovens. These later 737-200s, as well as all 737-300s, 500s, 757s, 767-300ERs, and 747-400s had the new tech carts.

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