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2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:29 pm

Yeah, I can't believe it either, but on planespotters.net, if you look at Samaritan's Purse fleet, there is apparently a DC-8-73 registered N873SJ that is due. The airline is a disaster relief company that is based in North Carolina I believe. Does anyone have any other info? I'd love to hear! Anyways, the thought of a DC-8 being brought back in 2020 and COVID-19 times is really surprising!
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:13 am

Not for Samaritan's Purse, but a DC-8-63 is being readied for a ferry flight out of YIP for a heavy check in OSC after not flying for ~9 years. N865F supposedly will be joining a couple more DC-8's for Part 125 cargo ops. I think 2020 has bizarre enough that we might actually see a few 50+ year old airframes take to the skies again to make some money. I'll believe it when I see it though...I do see the SP venture having the best chance at happening. It could be for spares though.
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:36 am

Boeing757100 wrote:
Yeah, I can't believe it either, but on planespotters.net, if you look at Samaritan's Purse fleet, there is apparently a DC-8-73 registered N873SJ that is due. The airline is a disaster relief company that is based in North Carolina I believe. Does anyone have any other info? I'd love to hear! Anyways, the thought of a DC-8 being brought back in 2020 and COVID-19 times is really surprising!


Very nice to hear on both the aviation side and humanity crisis response side. Samaritan's Purse has a wonderful history of going into horrendous situations and providing medical relief.
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:27 pm

tb727 wrote:
Not for Samaritan's Purse, but a DC-8-63 is being readied for a ferry flight out of YIP for a heavy check in OSC after not flying for ~9 years. N865F supposedly will be joining a couple more DC-8's for Part 125 cargo ops. I think 2020 has bizarre enough that we might actually see a few 50+ year old airframes take to the skies again to make some money. I'll believe it when I see it though...I do see the SP venture having the best chance at happening. It could be for spares though.



I thought n865f was preserved.
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:35 am

How does an organization justify using such old aircraft? Where does one even find pilots?
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:46 am

flyingclrs727 wrote:
How does an organization justify using such old aircraft? Where does one even find pilots?


Because the cost of acquisition is next to nothing, which is of primary importance to a non-profit charity organization.

Plenty of former cargo DC-8 drivers out there that could operate for SP.
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:52 am

According to:



N873SJ last picture was 2 years ago.

Last flight was done 11 months ago:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N873SJ

g77
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:10 am

Boeing757100 wrote:
Anyways, the thought of a DC-8 being brought back in 2020 and COVID-19 times is really surprising!


I has not been brought back. It never left.
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:32 am

flyingclrs727 wrote:
Where does one even find pilots?


Pakistan? :duck:

Boeing757100 wrote:
I thought n865f was preserved.


I saw it parked at YIP a couple of years ago and it was, apparently, going to the Yankee Air Museum.


I first saw this plane operating for Seaboard World back in 1975. It was also a regular in he UK operating cargo flights for Loftleidir, Saudia and Air India cargo flights.
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:01 am

flyingclrs727 wrote:
How does an organization justify using such old aircraft? Where does one even find pilots?


There is still an active Level B DC-8 simulator in ILN I believe for training.

https://abxair.com/flight-support/fligh ... rcraft.cfm
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:43 pm

Boeing757100 wrote:
tb727 wrote:
Not for Samaritan's Purse, but a DC-8-63 is being readied for a ferry flight out of YIP for a heavy check in OSC after not flying for ~9 years. N865F supposedly will be joining a couple more DC-8's for Part 125 cargo ops. I think 2020 has bizarre enough that we might actually see a few 50+ year old airframes take to the skies again to make some money. I'll believe it when I see it though...I do see the SP venture having the best chance at happening. It could be for spares though.



I thought n865f was preserved.


Not really lol. I think it's been "stored" but either way I doubt it was taken care of in a way they thought it would actually fly again.
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:07 pm

n797mx wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:
How does an organization justify using such old aircraft? Where does one even find pilots?


There is still an active Level B DC-8 simulator in ILN I believe for training.

https://abxair.com/flight-support/fligh ... rcraft.cfm


There are several folks with ABX at ILN with extensive DC-8 experience that routinely volunteer with Samaritan’s Purse. Actually, one gentleman that I’m aware of is moving down to NC to help them in his retirement.
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:28 pm

Looks like this old former DHL -73 may be going to them or some outfit affiliated with them as well on this video that I found the other day of a recent test flt. It's last two digits of it's reg. is SJ (N805SJ) now as well, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qT77jaki6s
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:35 pm

I was not expecting this. Great news that a DC-8 found a new home.
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:40 pm

ATA L1011 wrote:
Looks like this old former DHL -73 may be going to them or some outfit affiliated with them as well on this video that I found the other day of a recent test flt. It's last two digits of it's reg. is SJ (N805SJ) now as well, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qT77jaki6s


This one is headed to SkyBus Jet Cargo, not Samaritan’s Purse. Currently painted and supposedly ready to go in the hangar at VCV.
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:41 pm

flyingclrs727 wrote:
How does an organization justify using such old aircraft? Where does one even find pilots?


I would be happy to renew my DC-8 rating!
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:44 pm

ATA L1011 wrote:
Looks like this old former DHL -73 may be going to them or some outfit affiliated with them as well on this video that I found the other day of a recent test flt. It's last two digits of it's reg. is SJ (N805SJ) now as well, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qT77jaki6s


A lot of stored airplanes in that video...
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:09 pm

Why not they get B737/A320 for replacement?
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:22 pm

chunhimlai wrote:
Why not they get B737/A320 for replacement?


A Super 60/70 series DC-8 is a lot more capable, not to mention cheap.
 
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Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:16 am

 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:52 am

n797mx wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:
How does an organization justify using such old aircraft? Where does one even find pilots?


There is still an active Level B DC-8 simulator in ILN I believe for training.

https://abxair.com/flight-support/fligh ... rcraft.cfm

...and a DC-8 that doesn't appear to have been cannibalized (N41CX) out on the ramp at ILN. Not sure when its last flight was.
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:19 am

arcticcruiser wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:
How does an organization justify using such old aircraft? Where does one even find pilots?


I would be happy to renew my DC-8 rating!


To fly a DC-8? I’d be happy to GET a DC-8 rating! Is there anyone willing to help me? I have 178 hours logged, mostly in Grumman AA5s and AA1As. I also have IFR experience. I Follow Roads.
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:07 pm

ghost77 wrote:
According to:



N873SJ last picture was 2 years ago.

Last flight was done 11 months ago:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N873SJ

g77


I saw a listing on a number of places showing that Samaritans is supposedly buying it. That is N873SJ, this was also the one that sat in GSO for so long
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:17 pm

gsoflyer wrote:
ghost77 wrote:
According to:



N873SJ last picture was 2 years ago.

Last flight was done 11 months ago:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N873SJ

g77


I saw a listing on a number of places showing that Samaritans is supposedly buying it. That is N873SJ, this was also the one that sat in GSO for so long


In the peak 2020 thread this one was being discussed as possibly being reactivated by Skybus Juet Cargo (hence the SJ reg) viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454329&p=22566095&hilit=N873SJ#p22566095
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:16 pm

WesternDC6B wrote:
arcticcruiser wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:
How does an organization justify using such old aircraft? Where does one even find pilots?


I would be happy to renew my DC-8 rating!


To fly a DC-8? I’d be happy to GET a DC-8 rating! Is there anyone willing to help me? I have 178 hours logged, mostly in Grumman AA5s and AA1As. I also have IFR experience. I Follow Roads.


I have all of my dad's DC-8 flight training manuals, I'll join up for a DC-8 rating.
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:22 pm

Spacepope wrote:
gsoflyer wrote:
ghost77 wrote:
According to:



N873SJ last picture was 2 years ago.

Last flight was done 11 months ago:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N873SJ

g77


I saw a listing on a number of places showing that Samaritans is supposedly buying it. That is N873SJ, this was also the one that sat in GSO for so long


In the peak 2020 thread this one was being discussed as possibly being reactivated by Skybus Juet Cargo (hence the SJ reg) viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1454329&p=22566095&hilit=N873SJ#p22566095


I can see that. Seems there is intent to buy with a delay in transfer of ownership? IDK, this entire jet is an enigma. :)
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:21 pm

I wouldn't use Flightaware to track this aircraft. You really have to go to ADSBExchange to be sure you get everything. The deal is that Skybus flew it up from Peru and it was at GSO and MIA for a while and there was some talk about it going to Samaritan's Purse, but I don't see any indication that anything came of that, and last I could tell it was now back in Peru. As noted, its sister Skybus DC8, OB-2059-P, is flying for somebody out of MIA during Peak, almost daily. Track on fr24.
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:57 am

I was using federal databases and some Samaritans Purse documents.

If the jet is in Peru, it is no longer parked in LIM, where it was for so long (I remember seeing it at the end of one of the runways every time I flew in and out to visit family)
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:00 am

gsoflyer wrote:
I was using federal databases and some Samaritans Purse documents.

If the jet is in Peru, it is no longer parked in LIM


FAA has it still registered to Skybus, with the registration renewed in early 2020. https://registry.faa.gov/AircraftInquir ... rTxt=873sj

It may very well have snuck out of LIM. However, the last ADSB transmission I could find, based on its HEX output, was at the end of a flight from MIA to LIM mid/late 2020, a while after its visit to GSO.

Sorry I don't know more; we're all curious. I was hoping we would see it and OB-2059-P both flying out of MIA simultaneously, but that was too much to ask. There are lots of photos and some video now of OB-2059-P on its almost-daily jaunts from MIA in December. Let's hope that those continue in the New Year; at the moment, she has been sitting since New Year's Eve.

And just FWIW, as I mentioned in another thread, N873SJ was actually the registration of a *different* DC-8 that was retired several years before Skybus registered the one you are following.

At first, that seemed odd, then my brain started actually to work: DC8-73, so "873", duh. Why they both used SJ as the suffix seems to be a coincidence. "Skybus Jet" Cargo is the current SJ; don't know about the old one.
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:12 pm

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How does an organization justify using such old aircraft? Where does one even find pilots?

"DC-8 pilot" is not a person. It's an entry in a logbook (a type rating).


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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:16 pm

ArcticSEA wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:
How does an organization justify using such old aircraft? Where does one even find pilots?

"DC-8 pilot" is not a person. It's an entry in a logbook (a type rating).


I got a good laugh from this because it is so true.
 
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Re: 2nd Samaritan's Purse DC-8?

Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:46 pm

wjcandee wrote:

And just FWIW, as I mentioned in another thread, N873SJ was actually the registration of a *different* DC-8 that was retired several years before Skybus registered the one you are following.

At first, that seemed odd, then my brain started actually to work: DC8-73, so "873", duh. Why they both used SJ as the suffix seems to be a coincidence. "Skybus Jet" Cargo is the current SJ; don't know about the old one.


This is getting confusing. N873SJ has only been msn 46091. Southern, DHL, Emery, Astar, et al. It was SJ for Southern, and 873 because it came after 871 and 872, but before 874.

But N872SJ has been on two airplanes: a -71 with Southern (and Florida West and National), and the Al Nassr -72 now belonging to Skybus Jet Cargo. It is supposedly on Samaritans Purse ops specs, but I'm pretty sure it hasn't left Kingman in years.
 
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Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:00 pm

MO11 wrote:
wjcandee wrote:

And just FWIW, as I mentioned in another thread, N873SJ was actually the registration of a *different* DC-8 that was retired several years before Skybus registered the one you are following.

At first, that seemed odd, then my brain started actually to work: DC8-73, so "873", duh. Why they both used SJ as the suffix seems to be a coincidence. "Skybus Jet" Cargo is the current SJ; don't know about the old one.


This is getting confusing. N873SJ has only been msn 46091. Southern, DHL, Emery, Astar, et al. It was SJ for Southern, and 873 because it came after 871 and 872, but before 874.

But N872SJ has been on two airplanes: a -71 with Southern (and Florida West and National), and the Al Nassr -72 now belonging to Skybus Jet Cargo. It is supposedly on Samaritans Purse ops specs, but I'm pretty sure it hasn't left Kingman in years.


I did it from memory without double-checking myself. Stupid of me. If that's the case I stand corrected.

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