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Aberdeen ground collision

Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:16 am

An ex Flybe Q400 (G-ECOK) Has hit a Loganair E145 (G-SAJS) at ABZ. apparently the brakes failed on the Q400.
https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/ne ... l-airport/
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:08 am

Oh, I guess not South Dakota....
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:41 am

sprxUSA wrote:
Oh, I guess not South Dakota....


No, the real & original Aberdeen. :smile:

ex-Flybe G-JECK being prepped for departure colliding with parked Loganair E145 G-SAJS. Both empty so no injuries.

You would have liked to have thought the Dash had been checked prior to even moving it, given it had been in storage for a while after Flybe's demise.
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:48 am

A parting shot from Flybe , after their previous attempts at taking Loganair from 'behind'... :lol:
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:32 am

Nooo .. look at the pic .. they were just cuddling !
 
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Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:43 am

 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:34 pm

That looks expensive.
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:55 pm

Breathe wrote:


So, that's how Scottish planes mate, things that Richard Attenborough never taught me.
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:42 pm

Yeah it looks like some sexual maneuver attempt.
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:44 pm

bravotango75 wrote:
Breathe wrote:


So, that's how Scottish planes mate, things that Richard Attenborough never taught me.


Thats how you breed an AN-72.
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:53 pm

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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:06 pm

Just two old dogs sniffing each other.
you don't get a second chance to make a first impression!
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:50 pm

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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:51 pm

It is clear what has happened here:
The veteran commuter is whispering advice to the newcomer as it partly takes over the regional-flying mantle. Either that or DH8 doesn't want to leave!

But on a serious note, somebody mentioned a P45 on its way.. would not be surprised if that was the case, because mistakes are costly in aviation.
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:38 pm

https://siteapps.caa.co.uk/g-info/

Is 27,704 Hrs a lot for a DHC8
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:40 pm

Now we know what an aircraft wrestling match look like.
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:05 pm

bravotango75 wrote:
Image


Some really nice dents in that engine cowling. Would the engine be scrapped completely or would it be examined on an anatomical level to see if it is salvageable?


Breathe wrote:
More photos here

So, that's how Scottish planes mate, things that Richard Attenborough never taught me.


I think you mean Richard's brother David?
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:49 pm

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:
bravotango75 wrote:
Image


Some really nice dents in that engine cowling. Would the engine be scrapped completely or would it be examined on an anatomical level to see if it is salvageable?


Breathe wrote:
More photos here

So, that's how Scottish planes mate, things that Richard Attenborough never taught me.


I think you mean Richard's brother David?

Good call, a bit :oops: on that. I might for a brief moment been thinking 'The Flight Of The Phoneix'
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:22 pm

Thunderboltdrgn wrote:
bravotango75 wrote:
Image


Some really nice dents in that engine cowling. Would the engine be scrapped completely or would it be examined on an anatomical level to see if it is salvageable?


Breathe wrote:
More photos here

So, that's how Scottish planes mate, things that Richard Attenborough never taught me.


I think you mean Richard's brother David?


That’s the TR and cowlings. They would be replaced and the engine inspected. If damaged they would repair or replace. They have inspection task for these events. There is a chance it would have to come off to inspect the pylon.
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:14 am

There's a suggestion locally that the Q400 jumped chocks during an engine run up.
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:36 pm

Dublinspotter wrote:
But on a serious note, somebody mentioned a P45 on its way.. would not be surprised if that was the case, because mistakes are costly in aviation.


But insurance cash would presumably be quite a bit more useful to the airline than planes that don't do anything but need maintenance right now?
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:21 pm

JannEejit wrote:
A parting shot from Flybe , after their previous attempts at taking Loganair from 'behind'... :lol:

If it bashed it on the nose, it would have been the airline equivalent of a Glasgow Kiss! :D
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:50 pm

I suppose the next question is the level of damage.

I doubt that the engine pylon on the E145 was designed to support the entire weight of the aircraft, or that the nose/nose gear of the DHC8 was designed to support an E145 either.
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:02 pm

id say that damage likely to be cosmetic and 'reasonably' easily repaired.
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:40 am

Very interesting video has emerged...

https://mobile.twitter.com/breakingavne ... 7727508488
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:47 am

JannEejit wrote:
Very interesting video has emerged...

https://mobile.twitter.com/breakingavne ... 7727508488


A low energy event so damage is probably minimal. There is more damage in the head of the journo that wrote the quoted piece in the first post: Drama unfolded this evening at Aberdeen International Airport.. where was the drama?
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:21 pm

This is an amusing take on the video linked above:

https://twitter.com/ls4a535/status/1274 ... 39905?s=21
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:38 pm

JannEejit wrote:
Very interesting video has emerged...

https://mobile.twitter.com/breakingavne ... 7727508488


While somewhat amusing, I also noticed some dangerous actions by the people involved: just imagine the guy attempting to stop the plane by pushing against the MLG strut would lose balance and fall - he would be rolled over, with possibly deadly consequences.

Luckily, all people are safe and the planes seem to have suffered only minor damage.
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:32 pm

arcticcruiser wrote:
JannEejit wrote:
Very interesting video has emerged...

https://mobile.twitter.com/breakingavne ... 7727508488


A low energy event so damage is probably minimal. There is more damage in the head of the journo that wrote the quoted piece in the first post: Drama unfolded this evening at Aberdeen International Airport.. where was the drama?

As now more than 100x Q400 are regarding COVID-19 and collapsed airlines already parked and retired or it has been already announced, they will be retired till Q1 2021, it is unlikely, many or even most will see duty as passenger plane or freighter again. There are just to many of them on the market now and I do not see the demand of all of the parked Q400 now or in the next years. I fear. the regional market will now change fast and I see many less routes for turboprop planes in Europe as example than pre-COVID-19. Also it seems the ATR family is preferred now by the airlines and perhaps only by luck, airlines flying the ATR-72-600 seems to have survived till now.

Many of these >100 are young with an age of less than 10 years.

If the Q400 is an older one, with need of a big maintenance cycle soon, it is possible, this Q400 will be just parted out and scrapped.

Does someone have more data to these two planes, involved in the incident?
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:46 pm

Surprised no one has asked this yet...

Is it a write-off? Lol
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:24 pm

National Geographic: And now we can see the Q400 approach the E145 in their natural habitat. Will the E145 accept this suitor, or hold out for a 150 seater? Keep watching folks, this is a rare occurrence and we are lucky to see the regional airliner mating practice in the wild.

In normal times, this appears to be completely repairable and a minor event in the grand scheme of things. But with so many airliners parked, hmm, it could be debatable whether to fix them. Scrap values come into play. But I would still guess that the insurance company would find it cheaper to pay off the damage than to send to scrap.
 
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Re: Aberdeen ground collision

Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:55 pm

rg787 wrote:
Surprised no one has asked this yet...

Is it a write-off? Lol


Or commented that it'll buff right out. :lol:

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