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Question about N.American transborder crossings in the 60s,70s & 80s to tertiary airports

Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:07 am

So I'm looking at departedflights latest flight iteneries from 1975. I'm curious how Canada/Mexico to the US flights worked before widespread preclearance was implemented....especially to ports or entry like MFE, DLH, ERI, GEG, ALB, etc. The local service carriers tended to serve Mexico/Canada from tertiary airports. Most of the flights continued for several legs. Did these relatively small airports have CBP facilities? Did everyone get off and clear customs before continuing to their destination?

I'm curious about the logistics.
 
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Re: Question about N.American transborder crossings in the 60s,70s & 80s to tertiary airports

Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:33 am

Yes and yes.
 
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Re: Question about N.American transborder crossings in the 60s,70s & 80s to tertiary airports

Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:36 am

Those cities have CBP offices today for boats on the lake or private planes landing. I’ve cleared in Green Bay, for example
 
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Re: Question about N.American transborder crossings in the 60s,70s & 80s to tertiary airports

Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:07 am

Even today US cities with pre-clearance flights must be an official port of entry and have CBP stationed at the airport in case flights need to be screened again upon arrival. If airports (like ALB, which lost its AC flights to YYZ a couple of years ago) don't have a formal FIS facility, they have to have contingency plans where they can screen international arrival passengers.

ALB handles diversions from NYC-area airports quite frequently, and there have been times when the diverted passengers were screened at ALB and then bused to their final destination.
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Re: Question about N.American transborder crossings in the 60s,70s & 80s to tertiary airports

Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:48 am

Italianflyer wrote:
So I'm looking at departedflights latest flight iteneries from 1975. I'm curious how Canada/Mexico to the US flights worked before widespread preclearance was implemented....especially to ports or entry like MFE, DLH, ERI, GEG, ALB, etc. The local service carriers tended to serve Mexico/Canada from tertiary airports. Most of the flights continued for several legs. Did these relatively small airports have CBP facilities? Did everyone get off and clear customs before continuing to their destination?

I'm curious about the logistics.


In 1989 we flew San Juan Airlines PDX-CLM-YYJ / YVR-BLI-PDX. We all deplaned in CLM & on to YYJ where we cleared. On the return we did pre-clearance. On a day trip
SEA-CLM-YYJ-CLM-SEA using a SWM, we cleared in CLM, After less than 15 minutes on the ground we were on our way to Seattle. A more civilized way to clear than SEA-TAC.
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Re: Question about N.American transborder crossings in the 60s,70s & 80s to tertiary airports

Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:59 am

Italianflyer wrote:
Did these relatively small airports have CBP facilities?


For over a hundred years the primary source of revenue to the U.S. federal government wasn't personal or corporate income taxes, but import duties. That meant the government operated customs houses (to receive and hold goods until the importer of record paid duty) in small, out-of-the-way ports and land border crossings that you couldn't imagine today.

See, for example, Waldoboro, Maine, today a town of fewer than 6,000 people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Cust ... oro,_Maine)

LOTS of 'little' airports had (and still have) customs and immigration staff a few hours a day (or on-call) to receive foreign flights. It goes way, way beyond the top 30 (or even 50) largest airports in the country.

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