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Williambaker08
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Qantas Boeing 747-8???

Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:20 am

Hi. So I was looking for random flights yesterday on flight aware and noticed a Qantas flying from Incheon to Anchorage on a Flight QFA 7521 on a Boeing 747-8. I thought Qantas has not bought the 747-8’s. Did they buy one that we don’t know about or are the leasing them from someone else or can someone tell me why there name and flight number is on a 747-8??? Any thoughts. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA7521
 
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Re: Qantas Boeing 747-8???

Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:24 am

It is a freighter operated by Atlas Air. QF has a dedicated freight division and operated freighters in AU.
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Re: Qantas Boeing 747-8???

Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:24 am

Williambaker08 wrote:
Hi. So I was looking for random flights yesterday on flight aware and noticed a Qantas flying from Incheon to Anchorage on a Flight QFA 7521 on a Boeing 747-8. I thought Qantas has not bought the 747-8’s. Did they buy one that we don’t know about or are the leasing them from someone else or can someone tell me why there name and flight number is on a 747-8??? Any thoughts. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA7521

It will be an Atlas 748 which operates for QF. The aircraft is not in QF livery and the equipment varies so it is no always a 748 and can sometimes be a 744F.
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Re: Qantas Boeing 747-8???

Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:28 am

tullamarine wrote:
Williambaker08 wrote:
Hi. So I was looking for random flights yesterday on flight aware and noticed a Qantas flying from Incheon to Anchorage on a Flight QFA 7521 on a Boeing 747-8. I thought Qantas has not bought the 747-8’s. Did they buy one that we don’t know about or are the leasing them from someone else or can someone tell me why there name and flight number is on a 747-8??? Any thoughts. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA7521

It will be an Atlas 748 which operates for QF. The aircraft is not in QF livery and the equipment varies so it is no always a 748 and can sometimes be a 744F.

Well it is was Atlas freight flight which is my thoughts just found it weird it was then why was it in Qantas flight number and name then Atlas. I thought they flew those in as say Atlas 4564 as an example. I don’t know just thought it was a good question to ask.
 
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Re: Qantas Boeing 747-8???

Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:44 am

Williambaker08 wrote:
tullamarine wrote:
Williambaker08 wrote:
Hi. So I was looking for random flights yesterday on flight aware and noticed a Qantas flying from Incheon to Anchorage on a Flight QFA 7521 on a Boeing 747-8. I thought Qantas has not bought the 747-8’s. Did they buy one that we don’t know about or are the leasing them from someone else or can someone tell me why there name and flight number is on a 747-8??? Any thoughts. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA7521

It will be an Atlas 748 which operates for QF. The aircraft is not in QF livery and the equipment varies so it is no always a 748 and can sometimes be a 744F.

Well it is was Atlas freight flight which is my thoughts just found it weird it was then why was it in Qantas flight number and name then Atlas. I thought they flew those in as say Atlas 4564 as an example. I don’t know just thought it was a good question to ask.


Those are fairly normal from memory when they still used the 747-400F.
 
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Re: Qantas Boeing 747-8???

Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:02 am

Qantas wet leases two 747-8s from Atlas for cargo ops. This arrangement has been going on for over 15 years now.
 
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Re: Qantas Boeing 747-8???

Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:44 am

PhilMcCrackin wrote:
Qantas wet leases two 747-8s from Atlas for cargo ops. This arrangement has been going on for over 15 years now.


Has it been 15 years already? Wow, time flies.

If I’m not mistaken, wasn’t it sometime prior to the GFC that QF were considering buying one or two 744Fs and use those in lieu of the Atlas Air wet leases?
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Re: Qantas Boeing 747-8???

Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:51 am

PhilMcCrackin wrote:
Qantas wet leases two 747-8s from Atlas for cargo ops. This arrangement has been going on for over 15 years now.


They're currently 748F - they weren't 15 years ago :)

The two used are in Atlas livery, with "Operated for Qantas" stickers at the front door

(trying to attach a snap of the two at SYD late last year but it's not working :( )
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Re: Qantas Boeing 747-8???

Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:32 am

Williambaker08 wrote:
tullamarine wrote:
Williambaker08 wrote:
Hi. So I was looking for random flights yesterday on flight aware and noticed a Qantas flying from Incheon to Anchorage on a Flight QFA 7521 on a Boeing 747-8. I thought Qantas has not bought the 747-8’s. Did they buy one that we don’t know about or are the leasing them from someone else or can someone tell me why there name and flight number is on a 747-8??? Any thoughts. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA7521

It will be an Atlas 748 which operates for QF. The aircraft is not in QF livery and the equipment varies so it is no always a 748 and can sometimes be a 744F.

Well it is was Atlas freight flight which is my thoughts just found it weird it was then why was it in Qantas flight number and name then Atlas. I thought they flew those in as say Atlas 4564 as an example. I don’t know just thought it was a good question to ask.

Atlas call sign is giant. I’m not sure why they don’t operate their business arrangements under giant. They also operate under ethiad. A lot of times when the giant pilots call up they say the wrong call sign.
 
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Re: Qantas Boeing 747-8???

Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:15 am

Chipmunk1973 wrote:
PhilMcCrackin wrote:
Qantas wet leases two 747-8s from Atlas for cargo ops. This arrangement has been going on for over 15 years now.


Has it been 15 years already? Wow, time flies.

If I’m not mistaken, wasn’t it sometime prior to the GFC that QF were considering buying one or two 744Fs and use those in lieu of the Atlas Air wet leases?

wow I didn’t know, that's how it turns out
 
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Re: Qantas Boeing 747-8???

Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:43 am

32andBelow wrote:
Williambaker08 wrote:
tullamarine wrote:
It will be an Atlas 748 which operates for QF. The aircraft is not in QF livery and the equipment varies so it is no always a 748 and can sometimes be a 744F.

Well it is was Atlas freight flight which is my thoughts just found it weird it was then why was it in Qantas flight number and name then Atlas. I thought they flew those in as say Atlas 4564 as an example. I don’t know just thought it was a good question to ask.

Atlas call sign is giant. I’m not sure why they don’t operate their business arrangements under giant. They also operate under ethiad. A lot of times when the giant pilots call up they say the wrong call sign.


Simple, traffic rights. Most ACMI operations are conducted this way.
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Re: Qantas Boeing 747-8???

Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:59 pm

Oh how i wish QANTAS had some 748's in their fleet!
:cloudnine: while I'm at it same with Air New Zealand. :D
 
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Re: Qantas Boeing 747-8???

Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:08 pm

cougar15 wrote:
32andBelow wrote:
Williambaker08 wrote:
Well it is was Atlas freight flight which is my thoughts just found it weird it was then why was it in Qantas flight number and name then Atlas. I thought they flew those in as say Atlas 4564 as an example. I don’t know just thought it was a good question to ask.

Atlas call sign is giant. I’m not sure why they don’t operate their business arrangements under giant. They also operate under ethiad. A lot of times when the giant pilots call up they say the wrong call sign.


Simple, traffic rights. Most ACMI operations are conducted this way.

It’s just weird. When I work Skywest they are Skywest they aren’t delta.
 
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Re: Qantas Boeing 747-8???

Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:28 am

I'll try to post my pic again if that's OK with mods. I couldn't get it to post with my earlier response, and then was so happy it worked I forgot to add text.

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Re: Qantas Boeing 747-8???

Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:30 am

Chipmunk1973 wrote:
If I’m not mistaken, wasn’t it sometime prior to the GFC that QF were considering buying one or two 744Fs and use those in lieu of the Atlas Air wet leases?


Circa 2012/13, Qantas was due to take a white-tail -400ERF but the deal ended up being cancelled. I think it was LN1416 which subsequently went to Cargolux.
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Re: Qantas Boeing 747-8???

Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:34 am

BAeRJ100 wrote:
Chipmunk1973 wrote:
If I’m not mistaken, wasn’t it sometime prior to the GFC that QF were considering buying one or two 744Fs and use those in lieu of the Atlas Air wet leases?


Circa 2012/13, Qantas was due to take a white-tail -400ERF but the deal ended up being cancelled. I think it was LN1416 which subsequently went to Cargolux.


Thanks!
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Re: Qantas Boeing 747-8???

Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:37 am

32andBelow wrote:
cougar15 wrote:
Simple, traffic rights. Most ACMI operations are conducted this way.

It’s just weird. When I work Skywest they are Skywest they aren’t delta.


But you don't need route authority on domestic flights like you do on international. The Atlas/Western Global/21 Air/National/Everyone Else wet-leases for UPS at Christmas use their own callsigns rather than UPS, unless they are going overseas.

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