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Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:23 pm

Welcome to Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020. Please continue the discussion below.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:25 pm

July 22nd is still the (speculated) departure date for VH-OEJ, correct?
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:05 am

HM7 wrote:
July 22nd is still the (speculated) departure date for VH-OEJ, correct?


Nothing yest confirmed but i've heard there will be a farewell for both QF staff and the public, which is awesome, given the significance of the B747 for Qantas and Australia over the years. More info to be made available shortly I understand.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:08 am

The other thing I’m curious about with VA 2.0 is what will happen to the slot they were awarded at HND? Is that something they can sub-lease or resell or does the airport take it back?
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My understanding is that HND slot will be returned to the IASC who will then make decision about awarding the slot.I don't believe that VA can hold onto that slot if they aren't going to use it. Therefore it will end up at QF ultimately and allow them in time to run the second SYD-HND alongside their MEL-HND service when they return in 2021.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:39 am

VH-BZF wrote:
The other thing I’m curious about with VA 2.0 is what will happen to the slot they were awarded at HND? Is that something they can sub-lease or resell or does the airport take it back?
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My understanding is that HND slot will be returned to the IASC who will then make decision about awarding the slot.I don't believe that VA can hold onto that slot if they aren't going to use it. Therefore it will end up at QF ultimately and allow them in time to run the second SYD-HND alongside their MEL-HND service when they return in 2021.

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When things return to something resembling normal I'd expect QF to either do 2x SYD-HND and drop BNE-NRT, or 1x SYD-HND and BNE-HND. Qantas flying 3x Tokyo is still probably at least 24 months off, but even then I doubt they'd need the fourth Tokyo frequency for a long time after that. They can return BNE-NRT (or some other combination) if and when the market requires it, which is probably not this side of 2025.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:54 am

VH-BZF wrote:
The other thing I’m curious about with VA 2.0 is what will happen to the slot they were awarded at HND? Is that something they can sub-lease or resell or does the airport take it back?
Cheers,
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My understanding is that HND slot will be returned to the IASC who will then make decision about awarding the slot.I don't believe that VA can hold onto that slot if they aren't going to use it. Therefore it will end up at QF ultimately and allow them in time to run the second SYD-HND alongside their MEL-HND service when they return in 2021.

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Why do we have to assume that the new VA will surrender the NHD slots? They haven't said they will get out of long haul flying, have they?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:19 am

xiaotung wrote:
VH-BZF wrote:
The other thing I’m curious about with VA 2.0 is what will happen to the slot they were awarded at HND? Is that something they can sub-lease or resell or does the airport take it back?
Cheers,
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My understanding is that HND slot will be returned to the IASC who will then make decision about awarding the slot.I don't believe that VA can hold onto that slot if they aren't going to use it. Therefore it will end up at QF ultimately and allow them in time to run the second SYD-HND alongside their MEL-HND service when they return in 2021.

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Why do we have to assume that the new VA will surrender the NHD slots? They haven't said they will get out of long haul flying, have they?


That was my thinking as well.. Plus given the capacity unlikely to be there, what difference does it make if VA or QF is sitting on it.
From my armchair CEO position, if VA flew to AKL, HND, LAX/SFO and code shared with Star Alliance members NZ/NH/UA/AC/CA/BR it might be a small but successful operation.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:50 am

xiaotung wrote:
VH-BZF wrote:
The other thing I’m curious about with VA 2.0 is what will happen to the slot they were awarded at HND? Is that something they can sub-lease or resell or does the airport take it back?
Cheers,
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My understanding is that HND slot will be returned to the IASC who will then make decision about awarding the slot.I don't believe that VA can hold onto that slot if they aren't going to use it. Therefore it will end up at QF ultimately and allow them in time to run the second SYD-HND alongside their MEL-HND service when they return in 2021.

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Why do we have to assume that the new VA will surrender the NHD slots? They haven't said they will get out of long haul flying, have they?


Because they dont want to go broke again. Time to focus on their core business and get that right.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:52 am

gpasternak wrote:
xiaotung wrote:
VH-BZF wrote:
The other thing I’m curious about with VA 2.0 is what will happen to the slot they were awarded at HND? Is that something they can sub-lease or resell or does the airport take it back?
Cheers,
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My understanding is that HND slot will be returned to the IASC who will then make decision about awarding the slot.I don't believe that VA can hold onto that slot if they aren't going to use it. Therefore it will end up at QF ultimately and allow them in time to run the second SYD-HND alongside their MEL-HND service when they return in 2021.

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Why do we have to assume that the new VA will surrender the NHD slots? They haven't said they will get out of long haul flying, have they?


That was my thinking as well.. Plus given the capacity unlikely to be there, what difference does it make if VA or QF is sitting on it.
From my armchair CEO position, if VA flew to AKL, HND, LAX/SFO and code shared with Star Alliance members NZ/NH/UA/AC/CA/BR it might be a small but successful operation.

It is probably unlikely as Bain will adopt a disciplined approach to relaunching the business and concentrate on the domestic business where the real money is. Even if they wanted to do HND, it would have to be based on using the owned 77Ws; the leased A332s will be returned.

I have no idea what happens with "use it or lose it" slots in the short to medium term given few airlines are going to have anything approaching normal schedules for the next 2 years so, unless there is some allowance for this, there will be a stack of unallocated rights.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:14 am

xiaotung wrote:
VH-BZF wrote:
The other thing I’m curious about with VA 2.0 is what will happen to the slot they were awarded at HND? Is that something they can sub-lease or resell or does the airport take it back?
Cheers,
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My understanding is that HND slot will be returned to the IASC who will then make decision about awarding the slot.I don't believe that VA can hold onto that slot if they aren't going to use it. Therefore it will end up at QF ultimately and allow them in time to run the second SYD-HND alongside their MEL-HND service when they return in 2021.

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Why do we have to assume that the new VA will surrender the NHD slots? They haven't said they will get out of long haul flying, have they?


Agree with tullamarine's point above. Airlines don't get awarded slots and not use them, as will be the case with VA. As such they will need to hand it back to the IASC who manage the allocation of slots. Given how preciously guarded slots are into HND, VA would be required to hand it back if they're not using it, Bain or whoever controls VA in the future will return the A330's that much we do know and as such won't fly that BNE-HND pair one would think. With the Olympics in Tokyo in 2021, providing borders are back open, you could probably expect QF to resume its Japan flying of sorts, being MEL-HND, SYD-HND (reduced capacity up to 2x daily) and BNE-NRT.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:34 am

Maybe VA can give their HND slot to ANA to fly instead.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:52 am

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Maybe VA can give their HND slot to ANA to fly instead.


Pretty sure QF and VA got their slot each as there were two slots allocated for Australian based carriers.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:22 am

I'm away that this is way out there and likely impossible for hundreds of reasons so don't berate me but if VA REALLY wanted to do some slot sitting, could they wet lease a plane and crew from ANA ?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:45 am

HM7 wrote:
July 22nd is still the (speculated) departure date for VH-OEJ, correct?


Late July will be the date for OEJ, expect an announcement from Qantas with the exact day and time soon. Also there are some 747 photography fans who are doing photos of the last 2 departures and will be selling prints. The website is www.qantas747.com if anyone is interested.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:20 am

Obzerva wrote:
b773 wrote:
Maybe VA can give their HND slot to ANA to fly instead.


Pretty sure QF and VA got their slot each as there were two slots allocated for Australian based carriers.


That's right. The HND slots (2) were allocated to Australia, who allocated one slot to VA. If VA don't use it, it'll be offered to QF. If the slot remains unused, Japan will revoke the unused slot and allocate it somewhere else.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:33 am

gpasternak wrote:
From my armchair CEO position, if VA flew to AKL, HND, LAX/SFO and code shared with Star Alliance members NZ/NH/UA/AC/CA/BR it might be a small but successful operation.


Which is basically no different to their pre-COVID situation with the exception of their Pacific Island routes...
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:38 am

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I'm away that this is way out there and likely impossible for hundreds of reasons so don't berate me but if VA REALLY wanted to do some slot sitting, could they wet lease a plane and crew from ANA ?


Yup it's a silly suggestion. You wet lease an aircraft where you don't have spare aircraft/staff, VA have got their entire widebody fleet currently parked and incurring lease costs, so why would you pay another company to lease aircraft when your current aircraft are sitting idle? I'll leave it at that.
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Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:05 am

SYDSpotter wrote:
gpasternak wrote:
From my armchair CEO position, if VA flew to AKL, HND, LAX/SFO and code shared with Star Alliance members NZ/NH/UA/AC/CA/BR it might be a small but successful operation.


Which is basically no different to their pre-COVID situation with the exception of their Pacific Island routes...


Sort of. They were interlining rather than code sharing with some of the above airlines. The loss of code share with NZ plus the change from HKG to HND is signifcant.
 
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Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:10 am

According to sources the 1st of 12 QF A380’s is set to depart Australian shores for what could possibly be for the last time on the 6th July VCV bound. . .


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Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:16 am

With the new VA owners taking over, financially at least, from today, I'd be curious to know what this might mean for their international structure.
I recall their crafty VAIH transaction being quite complex, allowing them to get around the ownership restrictions to fly abroad.

Though VA international flying might be some time away, depending on the underlying holders in Bain, it might not be necessary now and therefore be a good opportunity to simplify it a bit.
 
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Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:23 am

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According to sources the 1st of 12 QF A380’s is set to depart Australian shores on the 6th July


Last I checked, half the fleet is already outside of Australia (3x at LAX, 2x at DRS, 1x at AUH).
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:46 am

wedgev wrote:
HM7 wrote:
July 22nd is still the (speculated) departure date for VH-OEJ, correct?


Late July will be the date for OEJ, expect an announcement from Qantas with the exact day and time soon. Also there are some 747 photography fans who are doing photos of the last 2 departures and will be selling prints. The website is http://www.qantas747.com if anyone is interested.

22nd of July QF7474 SYD-LAX-MHV


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Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:03 pm

Melbourne Airport is celebrating it's 50th anniversary.

https://www.melbourneairport.com.au/Cor ... nniversary
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:13 pm

EK413 wrote:
wedgev wrote:
HM7 wrote:
July 22nd is still the (speculated) departure date for VH-OEJ, correct?


Late July will be the date for OEJ, expect an announcement from Qantas with the exact day and time soon. Also there are some 747 photography fans who are doing photos of the last 2 departures and will be selling prints. The website is http://www.qantas747.com if anyone is interested.

22nd of July QF7474 SYD-LAX-MHV


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Is the LAX-MHV leg the same day or will they rest at LAX for 24 hours like they did for the previous flights? Thanks in advance :)
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Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:15 pm

BAeRJ100 wrote:
EK413 wrote:
According to sources the 1st of 12 QF A380’s is set to depart Australian shores on the 6th July


Last I checked, half the fleet is already outside of Australia (3x at LAX, 2x at DRS, 1x at AUH).


Yup. Will be interesting to see if it will actually be one from Australia or if they'll take one of them from LAX. Sadly I can't make it that day :cry:
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Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:18 am

Great to see VA announce it will reopen another 17 routes over the next month. Obviously, a lot of these are intrastate routes such as more Qld services and SYD-BNK but there are some reopened interstate services such as SYD-HBA. Given the issues here in Victoria, there isn't much added for MEL though hopefully this is largely controlled over July so we can rejoin the nation.

Yesterday was the first day of Bain having effective control and it has supplied immediate liquidity into the business. It is expected that Bain and PS will make a joint announcement on the short to medium term plans for the business in the next few days. Sadly, this will probably confirm the huge number of redundancies that have been rumoured.
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Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:25 am

American Airlines has delayed restarting SYD till mid 2021, previous plan was for October this year

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Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:25 am

Virgin already running a happy hour (that goes for 12 hours) till 11pm Thursday
https://specials.virginaustralia.com/au/sale/happy-hour

Mind you they'd have to pay me to fly SYD-MEL at present
 
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Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:40 am

VCVSpotter wrote:
EK413 wrote:
wedgev wrote:

Late July will be the date for OEJ, expect an announcement from Qantas with the exact day and time soon. Also there are some 747 photography fans who are doing photos of the last 2 departures and will be selling prints. The website is http://www.qantas747.com if anyone is interested.

22nd of July QF7474 SYD-LAX-MHV


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Is the LAX-MHV leg the same day or will they rest at LAX for 24 hours like they did for the previous flights? Thanks in advance :)


No it is planned to sit at the LAX maintenance base for 24hrs, as the same pilots who fly the aircraft up to LAX, fly it onto MHV the following day I understand, after they have rested.

My QF contact has also informed me that it looks like VH-OQE & OQJ could be the first 2 A380's headed to VCV for storage. TBC

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Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:53 am

melpax wrote:
Melbourne Airport is celebrating it's 50th anniversary.

https://www.melbourneairport.com.au/Cor ... nniversary


Amazing to see how Melbourne Airport has changed over the years. I remember flying into Melbourne from my home in Hobart in 1976 and saw my very first Jumbo Jet, as an 11 year old could not believe the size of the engines alone. We ended up moving to Melbourne in 1977, plane spotting over the years out there we have watched it grow. Can remember seeing when the European carriers use to come in like KLM, AZ, Pan Am with their Sp's Sunday afternoon use to bring JAT DC-10s saw Air Lanka bring a Tri-Star, British Airways. LH etc etc, then complain how come Sydney got more airlines than us :lol:. So a lot has changed - no European airlines any more all 777s, A330s 350s and 737s no variety now the end of the 747 era. Its great to look back at the TAA and Ansett days and looking at that shows just how far and how big Melbourne Airport has grown.
 
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Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:48 pm

I'm sure one reason Rex is making a move now is because they will probably be able to get decent slots at the major airports, which would not have been the case previously, as all of these were pretty much locked up by Virgin and Qantas.
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I'm sure one reason Rex is making a move now is because they will probably be able to get decent slots at the major airports, which would not have been the case previously, as all of these were pretty much locked up by Virgin and Qantas.

Can't rex use some of their existing regional slots for jets if necessary ?
 
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Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:59 pm

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I'm sure one reason Rex is making a move now is because they will probably be able to get decent slots at the major airports, which would not have been the case previously, as all of these were pretty much locked up by Virgin and Qantas.

Can't rex use some of their existing regional slots for jets if necessary ?


Probably not at Sydney. A number of slots are carved out for NSW regional flights, and I would assume most of their Sydney slots fall within this category.
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Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:20 pm

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I'm sure one reason Rex is making a move now is because they will probably be able to get decent slots at the major airports, which would not have been the case previously, as all of these were pretty much locked up by Virgin and Qantas.


You would think that VA MK2 would be releasing 20-30% of there current SYD slots back into the system (TT would release an few up)
 
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Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:47 am

BREAKING: Qantas A380 has filed MEL-VCV 2:30PM - 10:46AM as QF9003. This will be the first ever A380 at a boneyard in the USA.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA ... /YMML/KVCV
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Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:57 am

VCVSpotter wrote:
BREAKING: Qantas A380 has filed MEL-VCV 2:30PM - 10:46AM as QF9003. This will be the first ever A380 at a boneyard in the USA.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA ... /YMML/KVCV

In addition VA 77W VH-VOZ is currently en-route from MEL to LAX as VA9015. Unsure if this is a freight run or a return to lessor as VH-VOZ is the one VA 77W not owned but instead leased from ILFC.
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Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:59 am

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BREAKING: Qantas A380 has filed MEL-VCV 2:30PM - 10:46AM as QF9003. This will be the first ever A380 at a boneyard in the USA.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA ... /YMML/KVCV


Tail no?
 
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Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:05 am

tullamarine wrote:
VCVSpotter wrote:
BREAKING: Qantas A380 has filed MEL-VCV 2:30PM - 10:46AM as QF9003. This will be the first ever A380 at a boneyard in the USA.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA ... /YMML/KVCV

In addition VA 77W VH-VOZ is currently en-route from MEL to LAX as VA9015. Unsure if this is a freight run or a return to lessor as VH-VOZ is the one VA 77W not owned but instead leased from ILFC.


This is a standard freight run.
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Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:06 am

qf2220 wrote:
VCVSpotter wrote:
BREAKING: Qantas A380 has filed MEL-VCV 2:30PM - 10:46AM as QF9003. This will be the first ever A380 at a boneyard in the USA.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA ... /YMML/KVCV


Tail no?


Looks like VH-OQE, as it has transponder on. However, no tail number has been 'officially' associated as of yet (9:06PM Los Angeles time, 2:06PM Melbourne time).
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:09 am

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BREAKING: Qantas A380 has filed MEL-VCV 2:30PM - 10:46AM as QF9003. This will be the first ever A380 at a boneyard in the USA.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA ... /YMML/KVCV


Tail no?


Looks like VH-OQE, as it has transponder on. However, no tail number has been 'officially' associated as of yet (9:06PM Los Angeles time, 2:06PM Melbourne time).


Ah, yes can now see OQE via flightradar24 at MEL.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:14 am

Qantas will operate 747 farewell flights in Sydney, Brisbane, and Canberra.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... e-canberra
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:48 am

Ishrion wrote:
Qantas will operate 747 farewell flights in Sydney, Brisbane, and Canberra.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... e-canberra


Thats good news! Understandably not including MEL in the tour with current developments.

Shame its not coming over to WA, I would have loved to jump on.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:48 am

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No it is planned to sit at the LAX maintenance base for 24hrs, as the same pilots who fly the aircraft up to LAX, fly it onto MHV the following day I understand, after they have rested.

BZF


Sorry if this has been asked before. But when an aircraft is ferried to MHV for storage, how do the flight crews get back to an airport to return home?

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:50 am

qf2220 wrote:
VCVSpotter wrote:
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Tail no?


Looks like VH-OQE, as it has transponder on. However, no tail number has been 'officially' associated as of yet (9:06PM Los Angeles time, 2:06PM Melbourne time).


Ah, yes can now see OQE via flightradar24 at MEL.


OQE has been on and off FR24 for the good part of the past week
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:53 am

tullamarine wrote:
VCVSpotter wrote:
BREAKING: Qantas A380 has filed MEL-VCV 2:30PM - 10:46AM as QF9003. This will be the first ever A380 at a boneyard in the USA.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA ... /YMML/KVCV

In addition VA 77W VH-VOZ is currently en-route from MEL to LAX as VA9015. Unsure if this is a freight run or a return to lessor as VH-VOZ is the one VA 77W not owned but instead leased from ILFC.


Virgin has been running a weekly freight run on MEL-LAX for the past month and 2 weekly on BNE-LAX
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:03 am

qf789 wrote:
qf2220 wrote:
VCVSpotter wrote:

Looks like VH-OQE, as it has transponder on. However, no tail number has been 'officially' associated as of yet (9:06PM Los Angeles time, 2:06PM Melbourne time).


Ah, yes can now see OQE via flightradar24 at MEL.


OQE has been on and off FR24 for the good part of the past week


Oh, ok. Also OQE was rumored to be the first A380 off to the boneyard so that's why I assumed that it was OQE.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:20 am

VCVSpotter wrote:
qf789 wrote:
qf2220 wrote:

Ah, yes can now see OQE via flightradar24 at MEL.


OQE has been on and off FR24 for the good part of the past week


Oh, ok. Also OQE was rumored to be the first A380 off to the boneyard so that's why I assumed that it was OQE.


Transponder off for VH-OQE and it's nearing 2 hours past its scheduled departure time. Looks like it may not be happening.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:10 am

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Sorry if this has been asked before. But when an aircraft is ferried to MHV for storage, how do the flight crews get back to an airport to return home?


Presumably by car or van - what other options do you imagine there are? It's only 90 minutes from MHV to downtown LA by road.

I think the bigger question in current circumstance is whether the crew fly back to Australia via SFO on UA or if they will go out of LAX on DL.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:42 am

qf002 wrote:
Chipmunk1973 wrote:
Sorry if this has been asked before. But when an aircraft is ferried to MHV for storage, how do the flight crews get back to an airport to return home?


Presumably by car or van - what other options do you imagine there are? It's only 90 minutes from MHV to downtown LA by road.

I think the bigger question in current circumstance is whether the crew fly back to Australia via SFO on UA or if they will go out of LAX on DL.


The crew will rest in LAX, then fly the short hop to MHV where there will be a car/van waiting to take them back to LAX. Maybe another night at the crew hotel or straight home- either way probably on DL or NZ.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:05 am

Rex having another dig at QF for starting a new route to OAG on 20th July calling it predatory.
Rexs' most expensive fare on this route is over $500 and they sell still them at peak times.
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