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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:37 am

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I think you pretty much answered your own question with regards to the engineers being only 2 hours drive away in LA. This article from executive traveller gives a bit of insight.



Except most LAX staff are being furloughed and the future of the hangar lease that run through 2037 is up in the air.

In the short run with really no flights, QF can't justify the staff, and longer term will a slimmed down airline - particularly one with maybe no A380s for which hangar was designed for, the need the LAX MRO facility is iffy.

There is currently no available space at ASP even if QF wanted it. ASP has applied to grow its available parking space but at the moment NZ and SQ have taken what is available.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:51 am

myki wrote:
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qf789 wrote:
Perth to be capped at 525 international passenger arrivals per week

https://twitter.com/6pr/status/1280349877197631490?s=21

So with VIC out of the picture for presumably six weeks and TAS and the NT presumably not taking any returning residents there will be a bit of a queue to get into the country for some time.

I haven't read much on this: why would VIC be stopling flights for six weeks when the sole purpose of quarantine, whether you have the virus or not, is to ensure you come out the other side virus-free?

Beucase hotel quarantine system is exactly the point that failed and caused this huge spread across the city (with sex between quarantined and supervised and so forth).

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:27 am

777Jet wrote:
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Seems like tickets for the Qantas 747 farewell flights are not on sale right on midday. Anyone else having luck? I can't find any links or anything...


Link didn't appear until about 12:10 then already said sold out for Sydney then all other cities sold out in a couple more minutes... Oh well, I got my 747-400ER farewell flight in on the BNE-SYD leg last Nov...


Yeah it finally appeared for me slightly before 12:10 and I managed to get myself a ticket on the BNE flight. Happy days!
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:09 am

Took two months, but Visa have reversed my Virgin ticket purchase today. $1500NZ back in my account is very welcome.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:25 am

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EK413 wrote:
The 2nd QF A380 VH-OQJ to be moth balled is about to depart LAX.


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Assuming, if down the line QF brings back the A380 fleet, VH-OQJ would have to be one of the first given it has had the refurbishment inside, correct?


I would believe so. It's one of the newest A380s that Qantas has, it has been refurbished, and it has the new livery applied. That combo should make it a prime candidate to come out of storage first (or close to it) in mid 2023.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:18 am

Qantas737 wrote:
777Jet wrote:
Qantas737 wrote:
Seems like tickets for the Qantas 747 farewell flights are not on sale right on midday. Anyone else having luck? I can't find any links or anything...


Link didn't appear until about 12:10 then already said sold out for Sydney then all other cities sold out in a couple more minutes... Oh well, I got my 747-400ER farewell flight in on the BNE-SYD leg last Nov...


Yeah it finally appeared for me slightly before 12:10 and I managed to get myself a ticket on the BNE flight. Happy days!


Somebody shared the link on Twitter and I managed to get into both Sydney and Canberra and select seats on both, enter my details, but then got an error at confirmation, so couldn't proceed. Really disappointed now, was going to share the flight with my son. :cry:
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:14 am

Thatcher wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Perth to be capped at 525 international passenger arrivals per week

https://twitter.com/6pr/status/1280349877197631490?s=21


That seems low doesn't it? Max 1050 concurrently in quarantine - even SA have committed to 1200, and NSW 6300. WA have seemed so ... pleased with themselves up until this point, I'm surprised they don't take the opportunity to step up and carry more of the load. Must have their reasons.

So with VIC out of the picture for presumably six weeks and TAS and the NT presumably not taking any returning residents there will be a bit of a queue to get into the country for some time.


Seems low yes but The Government is footing the hotel bills & quarantine costs. If people had to pay for their Quarantine i can guarantee you many will think twice about coming home
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:19 am

anstar wrote:
zkncj wrote:
melpax wrote:
Melbourne Metro area & the adjoining Mitchell Shire (which includes towns such as Kilmore & Wallan that are basically outer suburbs) have had a lockdown reimposed for 6 weeks as of tomorrow night. Boo!

https://www.theage.com.au/national/coro ... 559it.html


Will defiantly have an major impact of the recovery of the aviation industry in Melbourne, who will soon be left behind all of the other major cities in Australia.

Wonder how much impact there will be on JQ’s operations, being largely MEL based.


It should also be a reminder to other states not to get to complacent. Melbourne did have zero cases not long ago. Re JQ operations, they have bases outside VIC so should be able to operate close to normally.


Melbourne had 1 day of zero cases. Their problem was they reopened too early, though the security contractors conduct at the quarantine hotels didn't help.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:12 am

tullamarine wrote:
AMSAKL wrote:
777ER wrote:
NZ is NOT at 74% capacity of pre covid levels. Yesterdays total load factor over all flights were at 74% with 55% pre covid capacity levels.


Unless you have better information I will interpret it as 74% of last years schedule. On July 3 Cam Wallace tweeted this. ""Busy day as we move into school holiday season, 271 domestic flights and over 20K pax, 58% of LY. Schedule steps up again from Monday. Good progress"

Source: https://twitter.com/CamWallace_NZ/statu ... 1887496192

I'm sure this is a fascinating conversation but not sure why it is in the Australian thread rather than the NZ thread :box:


Yep fair enough

Whilst i'm over here, I transited through MEL last week from PER on my way to AKL. It was truly amazing to see, pulling up to the airport with a couple of cars scattered through the long term parking as if they belong to people stuck overseas and then the terminal itself like it was straight out of the Langoliers. There was probably more aircraft parked up then people in the international terminal.
As a former resident of Melbourne it was sad to see, Hope all it gets back to some sort of normality as soon as possible
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:22 am

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Assuming 58 J sold and 160 Y sold, thats about $107k of revenue for an hour long flight.

No idea if that is profitable or not?


I think it's safe to say it would be profitable :)

There's a Forbes article that says a "very generic" cost per hour for a 747-400 is US$25,000. Therefore there should be a good amount of money going to the Qantas Founders Museum and HARS, who can both probably really use it, so that's nice. Hopefully they'll tell us how much they donate, then you'll be able to work out how much the flights cost to run.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:04 am

My partner and I were one of the lucky ones who got seats on the Qantas 747 farewell flight out of BNE! Was so nervous thought we were gonna miss out, was refreshing the page like crazy, finally saw the link appear at 12:03. Booked the tickets, and went back picked the seats, got the last window seats showing! looked back on the home page straight away afterwards and sold out. Super excited!

Profits going to Longreach and HARS museums so that is good :)
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:48 am

VH-OEJ is scheduled for pushback 1400hrs Wed 22nd July. Will fly direct to HARS for low level pass and to dip the wing to VH-OJA and then back up the coast to do some flybys of Sydney and surrounds.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:02 pm

ClassicLover wrote:
qf2220 wrote:
Assuming 58 J sold and 160 Y sold, thats about $107k of revenue for an hour long flight.

No idea if that is profitable or not?


I think it's safe to say it would be profitable :)

There's a Forbes article that says a "very generic" cost per hour for a 747-400 is US$25,000. Therefore there should be a good amount of money going to the Qantas Founders Museum and HARS, who can both probably really use it, so that's nice. Hopefully they'll tell us how much they donate, then you'll be able to work out how much the flights cost to run.


I’m a disappointed in how this was done, the crew haven’t been allocated their flights yet, only the crew will be retiring and taking VR will be allocated. My Dad is a CSM and is retiring after 42years, I would loved to have bought a ticket for his flight (If he gets one of them), so would many family of retiring crew - but we can’t as they haven’t assigned flights yet, so no one knows if or which flight they will get as naturally over subscribed with so many crew who are stood down desperate to get one last flight in. Such a shame, not necessarily saying family should have got priority over the public, but would have given us a fighting chance if the allocations has be done prior to going on sale.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:08 pm

Also looking for clarification on this - Are all 12 Qantas A380s being sent to VCV? Or will some stay in LAX/SYD/MEL?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:37 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Also looking for clarification on this - Are all 12 Qantas A380s being sent to VCV? Or will some stay in LAX/SYD/MEL?


I've heard different things. Initially it looked like all 12 were going, but now hearing that only 7 will be going...but also hearing that they'll send A380s from DRS and AUH to VCV, so....I don't think anyone for sure knows at this stage how many will end up at VCV. I mean, in a years time I'm sure all of them will eventually get there, but in the next month or so it may not be the whole fleet. If anyone else knows some more specifics it would be much appreciated (especially as I am 'VCVSpotter' lol).
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:30 pm

Qantas has pulled almost all international flights through to 28 March

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... march-2021
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:14 am

VCVSpotter wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Also looking for clarification on this - Are all 12 Qantas A380s being sent to VCV? Or will some stay in LAX/SYD/MEL?


I've heard different things. Initially it looked like all 12 were going, but now hearing that only 7 will be going...but also hearing that they'll send A380s from DRS and AUH to VCV, so....I don't think anyone for sure knows at this stage how many will end up at VCV. I mean, in a years time I'm sure all of them will eventually get there, but in the next month or so it may not be the whole fleet. If anyone else knows some more specifics it would be much appreciated (especially as I am 'VCVSpotter' lol).

‘Nancy Bird’ is about to set sail SYD-VCV as QF6003.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:36 am

EK413 wrote:
VCVSpotter wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Also looking for clarification on this - Are all 12 Qantas A380s being sent to VCV? Or will some stay in LAX/SYD/MEL?


I've heard different things. Initially it looked like all 12 were going, but now hearing that only 7 will be going...but also hearing that they'll send A380s from DRS and AUH to VCV, so....I don't think anyone for sure knows at this stage how many will end up at VCV. I mean, in a years time I'm sure all of them will eventually get there, but in the next month or so it may not be the whole fleet. If anyone else knows some more specifics it would be much appreciated (especially as I am 'VCVSpotter' lol).

‘Nancy Bird’ is about to set sail SYD-VCV as QF6003.


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Likely will overfly my house again en route to VCV (the other 2 did as well), a silver lining for me in all of this sadness.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:44 am

EK413 wrote:
VCVSpotter wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Also looking for clarification on this - Are all 12 Qantas A380s being sent to VCV? Or will some stay in LAX/SYD/MEL?


I've heard different things. Initially it looked like all 12 were going, but now hearing that only 7 will be going...but also hearing that they'll send A380s from DRS and AUH to VCV, so....I don't think anyone for sure knows at this stage how many will end up at VCV. I mean, in a years time I'm sure all of them will eventually get there, but in the next month or so it may not be the whole fleet. If anyone else knows some more specifics it would be much appreciated (especially as I am 'VCVSpotter' lol).

‘Nancy Bird’ is about to set sail SYD-VCV as QF6003.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:53 am

Mein Gott, what a depressing year this has been, goodby 747's, now goodbye a380's as well. If I had one wish in my life, it would be that the a380's would come back, the 747's got their time in the sun but the poor superjumbos have always had it hard. Constantly labeled 'burdens', discarded by their lovers in Singapore at the age of 10, now it seems QF is going to put them out to pasture for the foreseeable future. What a sad time right now, let's hope there's a light at the end of the tunnel, the A380's will return, everyone will be allowed out, everyone survives well, business goes back to normal and Virgin Australia becomes the competitive domestic operator while still retaining their 777's for the LAX runs. : )
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:54 am

tullamarine wrote:
EK413 wrote:
VCVSpotter wrote:

I've heard different things. Initially it looked like all 12 were going, but now hearing that only 7 will be going...but also hearing that they'll send A380s from DRS and AUH to VCV, so....I don't think anyone for sure knows at this stage how many will end up at VCV. I mean, in a years time I'm sure all of them will eventually get there, but in the next month or so it may not be the whole fleet. If anyone else knows some more specifics it would be much appreciated (especially as I am 'VCVSpotter' lol).

‘Nancy Bird’ is about to set sail SYD-VCV as QF6003.


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As the oldest of QF's A380s as well as having being significantly repaired following QF32 incident and not yet being updated, she is the least likely to ever return to service.

Just returned to block after a short trip around the block...

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:41 am

EK413 wrote:
tullamarine wrote:
EK413 wrote:
‘Nancy Bird’ is about to set sail SYD-VCV as QF6003.


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As the oldest of QF's A380s as well as having being significantly repaired following QF32 incident and not yet being updated, she is the least likely to ever return to service.

Just returned to block after a short trip around the block...

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Now trying again, looks like the steering issue is fixed.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:00 am

She was looking tired when I flew on her in October
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:26 am

She's just off the coast on her way to VCV.

Man, that's depressing. I got to fly on VH-OQA when she was brand new, LAX-SYD.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:55 am

CraigAnderson wrote:
Qantas has pulled almost all international flights through to 28 March

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... march-2021


How realistic, is that Qantas will be back flying Internationally in the next 12months?

They seem to have dievested there long-haul operations, for the long haul.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:26 am

zkncj wrote:
CraigAnderson wrote:
Qantas has pulled almost all international flights through to 28 March

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... march-2021


How realistic, is that Qantas will be back flying Internationally in the next 12months?

They seem to have dievested there long-haul operations, for the long haul.

It's probably more realistic to cancel the schedule and then reintroduce gradually earlier if that becomes possible. Publishing an optimistic schedule and then having to cancel, disappoint and process refunds seems a waste at this stage. The schedule will come back slowly with a few flights to NZ gradually building up to daily and then, maybe, a weekly flight to NAN and then maybe a couple of SYD-SIN a week. There is no prospect of anything approaching a normal looking, albeit reduced, schedule before July next year. Absent a vaccination, flights to USA may not return before 2022.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:00 am

tullamarine wrote:
zkncj wrote:
CraigAnderson wrote:
Qantas has pulled almost all international flights through to 28 March

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... march-2021


How realistic, is that Qantas will be back flying Internationally in the next 12months?

They seem to have dievested there long-haul operations, for the long haul.

It's probably more realistic to cancel the schedule and then reintroduce gradually earlier if that becomes possible. Publishing an optimistic schedule and then having to cancel, disappoint and process refunds seems a waste at this stage. The schedule will come back slowly with a few flights to NZ gradually building up to daily and then, maybe, a weekly flight to NAN and then maybe a couple of SYD-SIN a week. There is no prospect of anything approaching a normal looking, albeit reduced, schedule before July next year. Absent a vaccination, flights to USA may not return before 2022.

It's probably easier to cancel the whole NW20 schedule which is what the 28 March is.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:05 am

eamondzhang wrote:
myki wrote:
Thatcher wrote:
So with VIC out of the picture for presumably six weeks and TAS and the NT presumably not taking any returning residents there will be a bit of a queue to get into the country for some time.

I haven't read much on this: why would VIC be stopling flights for six weeks when the sole purpose of quarantine, whether you have the virus or not, is to ensure you come out the other side virus-free?

Beucase hotel quarantine system is exactly the point that failed and caused this huge spread across the city (with sex between quarantined and supervised and so forth).

Michael


The current increase is not solely from the quarantine. It was in the community before that. Hello Cedar meats etc.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:58 am

Virgin's bondholders have now withdrawn their application to the Takeover Panel! What's going on here?

The application concerned, among other things, whether certain circumstances regarding the process conducted by the Administrators of VAH were unacceptable and had the effect of precluding an alternative deed of company arrangement being presented to VAH’s creditors at the second creditors’ meeting (see TP20/40).
The Panel is satisfied that it is not against the public interest to consent to the applicants withdrawing their application.
The Panel will publish its reasons for the decision to consent to the withdrawal in due course on its website http://www.takeovers.gov.au.


https://www.asx.com.au/asx/share-price- ... ompany/VAH

I can't believe that after all this, the bondholders suddenly decided they didn't have a case. Maybe Deloitte and Bain have given them a guarantee of being paid so many cents per dollars or cut some other 'deal' so as not to have the bondholders make waves?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:21 am

tullamarine wrote:
zkncj wrote:
CraigAnderson wrote:
Qantas has pulled almost all international flights through to 28 March

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... march-2021


How realistic, is that Qantas will be back flying Internationally in the next 12months?

They seem to have dievested there long-haul operations, for the long haul.

It's probably more realistic to cancel the schedule and then reintroduce gradually earlier if that becomes possible. Publishing an optimistic schedule and then having to cancel, disappoint and process refunds seems a waste at this stage. The schedule will come back slowly with a few flights to NZ gradually building up to daily and then, maybe, a weekly flight to NAN and then maybe a couple of SYD-SIN a week. There is no prospect of anything approaching a normal looking, albeit reduced, schedule before July next year. Absent a vaccination, flights to USA may not return before 2022.


Exactly, they are keeping NZ in the hope that opens up with the 'bubble' but dropping everything else. And when overseas flights do come back this will not look anything like the pre-COVID schedule because it will be based on which destinations are 'safe' as well as demand. Some routes which were double-daily will come back as one flight per day, some routes will come back as 3 or 4 flights per week in the early days. Much easier to just scrub the whole schedule and then build a new one to suit the new market.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:21 am

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Virgin's bondholders have now withdrawn their application to the Takeover Panel! What's going on here?

The application concerned, among other things, whether certain circumstances regarding the process conducted by the Administrators of VAH were unacceptable and had the effect of precluding an alternative deed of company arrangement being presented to VAH’s creditors at the second creditors’ meeting (see TP20/40).
The Panel is satisfied that it is not against the public interest to consent to the applicants withdrawing their application.
The Panel will publish its reasons for the decision to consent to the withdrawal in due course on its website http://www.takeovers.gov.au.


https://www.asx.com.au/asx/share-price- ... ompany/VAH

I can't believe that after all this, the bondholders suddenly decided they didn't have a case. Maybe Deloitte and Bain have given them a guarantee of being paid so many cents per dollars or cut some other 'deal' so as not to have the bondholders make waves?


I believe their (the Bondholders) strategy changed in recent days, and they wish to present an alternative Deed of Arrangement for creditors to vote on at the Creditors Meeting. If the Administrators have consented to the alternative DoA to be presented (alongside the Bain DoA, supported by the Administrators), then that may have removed the need/strategy to use the Takeovers Panel.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:38 pm

CraigAnderson wrote:
Virgin's bondholders have now withdrawn their application to the Takeover Panel! What's going on here?

The application concerned, among other things, whether certain circumstances regarding the process conducted by the Administrators of VAH were unacceptable and had the effect of precluding an alternative deed of company arrangement being presented to VAH’s creditors at the second creditors’ meeting (see TP20/40).
The Panel is satisfied that it is not against the public interest to consent to the applicants withdrawing their application.
The Panel will publish its reasons for the decision to consent to the withdrawal in due course on its website http://www.takeovers.gov.au.


https://www.asx.com.au/asx/share-price- ... ompany/VAH

I can't believe that after all this, the bondholders suddenly decided they didn't have a case. Maybe Deloitte and Bain have given them a guarantee of being paid so many cents per dollars or cut some other 'deal' so as not to have the bondholders make waves?


This was expected. All they wanted was more cents per dollar from Bain because the alternative would have prevented the sale, liquadated the company and they ended up even worse.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:33 pm

Love all this discussion about what the poor QF Pilot will eat on his way to Victorville. Oh what the poor freightdogs without an FA have to put up with:
And if they did not bring their own sandwiches:
1. Remove your business or first class quality tray from the ´fridge´.
2. take only those thingies with the alfoil over them off the tray & shove them in the oven ( those only, please do not include yoguhrt or fruit bowls etc - generally very nice quality tucker under that alfoil).
3. push the preset buttons on the old convec oven
4. wait a while till it goes ´pling´ and return those alfoil covered thingies to the rest of your tray.
5. remove foil carefully (warning, hot) & enjoy!

I trust a seasoned QF skipper may just cope with this, even without an FA?
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:05 pm

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VH-OEJ is scheduled for pushback 1400hrs Wed 22nd July. Will fly direct to HARS for low level pass and to dip the wing to VH-OJA and then back up the coast to do some flybys of Sydney and surrounds.


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Think you will find it is the other way around, particularly if 34L in use. Harbour flyover after take-off, followed by northern beaches, down over Bondi, then back over the airport along 25, left turn to HARS, then out to sea and LAX.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:11 am

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Now trying again, looks like the steering issue is fixed.


I fluked being there for the eventual departure. At least one well known spotter got pics.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:29 am

wedgev wrote:
EK413 wrote:
VH-OEJ is scheduled for pushback 1400hrs Wed 22nd July. Will fly direct to HARS for low level pass and to dip the wing to VH-OJA and then back up the coast to do some flybys of Sydney and surrounds.


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Think you will find it is the other way around, particularly if 34L in use. Harbour flyover after take-off, followed by northern beaches, down over Bondi, then back over the airport along 25, left turn to HARS, then out to sea and LAX.

Right or wrong it’s the information I received at the time. We all know the weather plays a big part.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:55 am

For the CBR (and potentially SYD) viewers ..

Some details of VH-OEJ for CBR on the 17th July ..

QF6160/17JUL
ETD SYD 0930LT ETA CBR 1020

QF747/17JUL
ETD CBR 1200 ETA CBR 1315

QF6161/17JUL
ETD CBR 1700 ETA SYD 1750

The time on the ground in CBR (after the joy flight) will be for QF staff and invited guests to inspect Wunala Dreaming.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:17 am

FL420FT wrote:
For the CBR (and potentially SYD) viewers ..

Some details of VH-OEJ for CBR on the 17th July ..

QF6160/17JUL
ETD SYD 0930LT ETA CBR 1020

QF747/17JUL
ETD CBR 1200 ETA CBR 1315

QF6161/17JUL
ETD CBR 1700 ETA SYD 1750

The time on the ground in CBR (after the joy flight) will be for QF staff and invited guests to inspect Wunala Dreaming.



Thanks for this info FL420FT. Looks like another long day on the car park, and probably the last passenger 747 at CBR.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:18 am

VA781 BNE-CNS operates by 738 YFW has just taken off BNE’s new runway which has officially been opened today
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:17 am

Here’s a link to footage of VA 737-800 VH-YFW operating the first departure from the new runway as VA781 to Cairns:

[url="https://www.pscp.tv/7NewsBrisbane/1BdGYnblkmAJX"]7NEWS Queensland @7NewsBrisbane[/url]


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:20 am

EK413 wrote:
Here’s a link to footage of VA 737-800 VH-YFW operating the first departure from the new runway as VA781 to Cairns:

[url="https://www.pscp.tv/7NewsBrisbane/1BdGYnblkmAJX"]7NEWS Queensland @7NewsBrisbane[/url]


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When you see an aerial shot of 01L/19R, you can see that there is space reserved for a second, runway length taxiway. I’ve flipped through the airport master plan but didn’t see any detail when it’s proposed to construct this. Anyone have any idea when this might be on the agenda?

Had CoVid not happened I would have thought that this might be in the 5-10 year timeframe. I guess that will be pushed out now.

Thanks.

PS. Vid at the beginning of this article does show footage of the existing cross runway being used as a plane parking lot. I had mistakenly read that it was the new runway doing that job.

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-a ... e6fee7ee10
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:16 am

EK413 wrote:
VH-OEJ is scheduled for pushback 1400hrs Wed 22nd July. Will fly direct to HARS for low level pass and to dip the wing to VH-OJA and then back up the coast to do some flybys of Sydney and surrounds.


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I had hoped that maybe Qantas might had arranged for OEJ to fly over Melbourne as we are in lockdown and were not able to get on any of the 3 flights and at least with a flyover, us Melbournians can say goodbye to an important aircraft for Qantas and Australia..

I even messaged Qantas on Facebook Messenger and maybe if enough Aviation Fans in Melbourne requested that, they might oblige.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:00 pm

aschachter wrote:
EK413 wrote:
VH-OEJ is scheduled for pushback 1400hrs Wed 22nd July. Will fly direct to HARS for low level pass and to dip the wing to VH-OJA and then back up the coast to do some flybys of Sydney and surrounds.


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I had hoped that maybe Qantas might had arranged for OEJ to fly over Melbourne as we are in lockdown and were not able to get on any of the 3 flights and at least with a flyover, us Melbournians can say goodbye to an important aircraft for Qantas and Australia..

I even messaged Qantas on Facebook Messenger and maybe if enough Aviation Fans in Melbourne requested that, they might oblige.


It does seem a shame. Things like this are such a nice boost to people's morale during these awful times.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:01 am

Qantas A380 VH-OQH filed MEL-VCV 12:30PM - 9:19AM as QF6001 for storage.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA6001
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:03 am

Qantas 747-400ER VH-OEJ on her first farewell flight, SYD-SYD as QF747.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-oej
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:12 am

aschachter wrote:
EK413 wrote:
VH-OEJ is scheduled for pushback 1400hrs Wed 22nd July. Will fly direct to HARS for low level pass and to dip the wing to VH-OJA and then back up the coast to do some flybys of Sydney and surrounds.


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I had hoped that maybe Qantas might had arranged for OEJ to fly over Melbourne as we are in lockdown and were not able to get on any of the 3 flights and at least with a flyover, us Melbournians can say goodbye to an important aircraft for Qantas and Australia..

I even messaged Qantas on Facebook Messenger and maybe if enough Aviation Fans in Melbourne requested that, they might oblige.


One problem with doing this is that it will provide a motivation for people to leave their homes and congregate in places where it will be good to view it from. Unfortunately for that reason i think they won't be able to do such a flyover.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:04 am

qf2220 wrote:
One problem with doing this is that it will provide a motivation for people to leave their homes and congregate in places where it will be good to view it from. Unfortunately for that reason i think they won't be able to do such a flyover.


Considering that Melbourne is fairly flat most could probably just look up from their houses to see if it did some proper loops over the city, like QF747 just did over Sydney. At least I got a reasonably close look, though not like those Inner city/Eastern Suburbs folks who like to complain about the aircraft noise. Very glad for my best man's wedding gift of binoculars (he is an astronomer, mind you). :)
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:12 am

qf2220 wrote:
aschachter wrote:
EK413 wrote:
VH-OEJ is scheduled for pushback 1400hrs Wed 22nd July. Will fly direct to HARS for low level pass and to dip the wing to VH-OJA and then back up the coast to do some flybys of Sydney and surrounds.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


I had hoped that maybe Qantas might had arranged for OEJ to fly over Melbourne as we are in lockdown and were not able to get on any of the 3 flights and at least with a flyover, us Melbournians can say goodbye to an important aircraft for Qantas and Australia..

I even messaged Qantas on Facebook Messenger and maybe if enough Aviation Fans in Melbourne requested that, they might oblige.


One problem with doing this is that it will provide a motivation for people to leave their homes and congregate in places where it will be good to view it from. Unfortunately for that reason i think they won't be able to do such a flyover.

The main issue is the joyflights only last an hour. Even departing from CBR, it would take around 90 minutes to go near Melbourne and that is just flying over Melbourne at altitude and returning. It is more likely the flight from CBR will keep a low altitude and loop over the Canberra city centre for at least half the one hour flight.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:52 am

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qf2220 wrote:
One problem with doing this is that it will provide a motivation for people to leave their homes and congregate in places where it will be good to view it from. Unfortunately for that reason i think they won't be able to do such a flyover.


Considering that Melbourne is fairly flat most could probably just look up from their houses to see if it did some proper loops over the city, like QF747 just did over Sydney.


True but there no doubt will be a few congregating in different places, maybe like Fed Square or the MCG wanting one last look at a 744 with a Melbourne landmark (incl for photos).
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:27 am

When is the Australian border open to Americans? I have family members that want to visit Australia.
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