JFKalumni wrote:evank516 wrote:ScottB wrote:
The real problem with these suggestions is that they don't make money for either DL or AA. High-cost RJs to ATL/DTW/CLT/ORD end up being mostly filled with basic economy fares priced to compete with F9. There are plenty of business travelers in the area, but they won't be attracted by a couple of RJs daily to a hub when there are so many non-stop choices available at JFK & LGA. Sure, the Van Wyck and Grand Central are pain-in-the-butt drives but so is missing a connection at ATL or CLT and getting stuck there overnight. Even if you have to connect to get to LGA and miss your connection there's probably another flight in an hour or two.
Sure, but ISP is also outside of the Class Bravo airspace. They're much less delay prone as well. They're not slot restricted like JFK and LGA, nor capacity restricted like HPN, there's no ground stops and gate holds anywhere near the extent of the big 3. Rather appealing to Long Island travelers who have to deal with the hussle and bussle of JFK and LGA otherwise. Anyone bringing up AA flights to CLT or DL flights to ATL and DTW aren't talking about service that hasn't existed here before either. This is all service that was there in the past (trade CVG for DTW) and would work rather well in a non-pandemic environment because they lasted in a post-9/11 environment (DL to ATL and CVG, AA to ORD). In 2019's economy, these would have been successful without a doubt. What we now need to do is wait and see how things come back.
Unfortunately just like Farmingdale, ISP does have departure and arrival issues because of JFK. Traffic on approach to JFK 22L/R must hit the Deer Park VOR at 3,000 feet. Usually this traffic is heading westbound near the L.I.E or further north near the Walt Whitman Mall. Just like LGA, Farmingdale and ISP are catering to Kennedy at times
I've flown that approach my share of times, shouldn't be much of a spacing issue, though. Usually you come up west of FRG then turn west over the LIE. Even so, aircraft on approach for runway 6 typically come in at the Captree Bridge, west of FRG. You still don't see anywhere near the delays at ISP that you do at JFK and LGA.